Can Zeno Be DESTROYED?
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- Опубликовано: 6 дек 2017
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The Omni King exist in infinite timeless beyond all variations of reality - hence the title “Omni.” So no, he cannot be killed. “Grand Zeno could annihilate anything he wishes in the blink of an eye regardless of size or complexity.” - Whis
There is some truth to this, He exists in higher layer of infinity 100% you see it on the screen. All universe are there on pillars and so small compared to his Palace. Therefore He is outside Creation itself. But he is still bound by one concept atleast- Time, as there are two of him. A being that transcends time itself is only One. There are no past/future/alternate version of that being It is only It And aware of all Thoose parrarel timelines and Dimensions . It if realy weird such being is Bound by primitive concept like Time, as even lessser Godlike characters in Fiction transcend time Easily. Therefore I have my doubt he is the strongest. True supreme being- Transcendental being- Example:Abrahamic God, Is defined in philosophy/metaphysics/occult etc as Beying beyound any concepts, So Reality, Death, life, Morality(good, evil), Time, Space, Dimensionality. And most importantly beyound FATE. And Also Such Being must possess Night-omniscience/some extremely higher cosmic knowledge
So lets go over Zeno.
1, he is outside of space, as his palace if beyound The multiverse itself and all universes are insignificant in size there. Not to mention he casualy plays Board game With solar systems.
2.
He is not Outside of time, and is bound by time, Evidence is in the show 2 Zenos, 2nd from alternate timeline.
3.
Is he beyound any concepts? Life and death, yes most likely he is, as His alternate version was floating in void with no sustenance and No vissible distress, also Nobody ever attempted Revolution, so it means Its pointless as he transcends Death and Life itself
Morality- Yes indeed, He is outside of mortality and notion of Good and evil we mortals Dwell on, He erases universes which seems horrible and evil from out perspective, but remember he exists Beyound Space on higher layer of infinity, to him It is same as for us Destroying Bacteria by washing our hands and bodies and We do not mourn their deaths.
Is he Beyound DImensionality itself? NO, i do not think so, He only transcends Dimensionality Partialy, As he is bound by time. So my conclusion is He is not bound by Space In thoose dimensions but Time is his limit. He Could Be classified As Vaguely Extradimensional. We need more screen time/feats from him to Further analyze him.
4, Is he Night-omiscient? Does he possess Supreme cosmic knowledge? Debatably yes but not To highest degree, Despire his childish nature he seems to predict outcomes such as mortals wishing to restore universes. And Also His erasure Technique/power Must require him to know How to Do it, How does universe/multiverse Work in order To erase it permanently. As Destroying Is easy, You just blast it with Ki-blast and thats it. But what He is Doing is Erasing All dimensions and Space Within thoose universes, and time to some degree too, but not fully as Time is his limit. Also Goku was able to time travel to alternate timeline To Pick 2nd zeno, therefore It PROOVES Time still existed there and supports what i said- He Simply does not transcend Time, therefore cannot erase Time Itself as He is bound by that concept.
5. Is He outside Fate? We need more Screen time/manga panels With him, but for now all i say He seems to be bound by some Invisible force.
Conclusion is He is not supreme Being, He is lacking in few areas to be classified as such, howewer He is not a joke and still absurdly powerfull character. And Rightfully strongest in DB verse. Atleast when it comes to DB super, as Demigra for example is far above zeno as Demigra is stated to Be able to affect Higher Narrative, such as Our own.But i would not take it seriously as We are the creators of theese stories and I myself Wrote some Work of fiction back in the days, And None of my characters simply manifested on Our plane and whooped my ass haha. Character can never surpass author no matter what anyone says, it is simply not possible, so i dismiss such scaling and Never take it seriously, Nobody should infact. Even what i wrote here about Zeno is just my SPECULATION and HEADCANNON so I do not claim i know anything, nor am i expert on occult/metaphysics, To scale such characters we need Proffesor of Philosophy Basicaly, as Such Academic capacity would no doubt Destroy all thoose "powerscalers". Metaphysics is very complicated discipline and I would only trust Expert in that field- Proffesor, PHD, etc. So you should Definitely not trust me im in no way expert.
Maybe those guards where just there as flowers of the table, you know what I'm saying man? They may just be decorations. You've seen how scared they were when Zeno warned them for trying to kill Goku.
*There is one way Zeno can be destroyed*
If he erases himself
Gine not even that is possible because he erased all life in the future timeline which theoretically should’ve erased him as well but he wasn’t which means he’s immune to erasure
Akira toriyama can beat zeno with eraser
@@darknessemblemflame3036 What, you think Zen'o isn't able to exclude himself from the erasure? He was able to erase Frost specifically, and could erase the fighters along with their universe despite him and the fighters being outside of the multiverse
That will only happen if he gets depressed Which WILL NEVER HAPPEN
@@darknessemblemflame3036 why would he erase everything with him
Supreme Kai said "Zeno cannot be defeated no matter how powerful the enemy" when Goku asked if Zeno was alive in the future.
Zeno is not omnipotent
@@abbasalqattan2759 Finally ur right Omnipotence doesn’t exist in fiction
Except that is a No Limits Fallacy.
Kami Tenchi solos
@Kahmij Hall thats the most retarded thing ive ever heard from the dragon ball community
If Zeno died, the people in other world would just. End the rules for him and revive him. Or he might have the power to revive himself
I’m sayin tho like he can’t die nor die forever lol
He can be affected by Time technnology, so he certainly has weaknesses.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
That’s funny. Zamas was erased and had immortality, ironic.
Siyovaxsh En-sipad-zid-ana That is an interesting question man, but you have to realize that so far Zeno, The King of All, is the most powerful being in Dragon Ball and Whis even states if he wanted to he could erase the entire world which means everything, and also Whis states he is the greatest person in this world, so I think he was the only one that could destroy or hurt an immortal Zamasu, not even the Great Priest could hurt Immortal Zamasu even though The Great Priest is fucking millions of times more powerful than Immortal Zamasu
Zamasu
Siyovaxsh En-sipad-zid-ana The Great Priest isn't more powerful than Zeno you should know this jeez and also we haven't seen any Angels erase anyone but yeah maybe The Great Priest could erase some people but an immortal Zamasu in the sky that was taking over the universe I don't think so
There were two Zamasus, not just one, remember, one of them was immortal, but the other one, who switched bodies with Goku, was not immortal..so, when they fused using the Potara Earrings, Fusion Zamasu was half-Immortal, half-mortal...hence how he was still able to be killed by Future Zeno
because zeno is above the super dragon ball power,if the super dragon ball make you immortal doesn't mean shit if you are talking about zeno their power are worthless against him,also the fact that zamasu wasn't really immortal once he fused,but he may have defused again if he took enough damage
Zeno's power is very high, it is said to be One Octodecillion Eight Hundred Septendecillion.
Think of it this way. Your mind controls the universe based on your thoughts and emotions. If you had an opponent that you no longer wanted in your presence, what is the quickest way to get rid of him without getting bruised or banged up? Easy. You erase him from your presence by taking your attention off him. If you read the novel 1984 by George Orwell, it even talks about how a lot of empires conquered the earth by using mental tactics instead of brute force.
I don't think Zen-O has guards to protect him or keep him in check. They're simply there to keep him company. Remember, virtually no one is aware of Zen-O's existence, so they keep him from being lonely.
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Gardetrace
That makes more sense then my theory of "it looks cool"
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1.25 speed, thank me later
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Laughingstock Media: Can Zeno be destroyed?
Me: Yes.
L.M.: How?
Me: Me.
I wonder if Jiren wins he'll wish for Zeno's erasure.
Can he be destroyed?
Me: Yes.
Turns of the TV.
Me: See he is dead now.
Me myself can kill Zeno. It is really easy.
I just find the location of where they animate dbz, find toriyama, kidnapp him and make myself join dbz and kill Zeno.
Hahahahsgahahahshaha
Your very funny destroyers just tickle
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dbs
U can’t kill Zeno he’s the king of everything he rolls the underworld too
His nothing compared to giorno giovanna cuz giorno giovanna can return to zero so time is returned to zero
@@flyinggorilla4123 Lmao zeno straight up erases the universe and he's gone
If he can't be killed, then the apparent subplot where the Angels turn on everyone that we KEEP ON hearing about from fan theories, sounds pretty impossible don't you think?
Looks to ME like another prime example of these writers backing themselves into an inescapable corner
I have been waiting for this question to be raised. Thank you Laughingstock Media! Even if Zeno is immortal to physical attacks, I bet a God of Destruction can hakai him.
Josh Springfield wouldnt work im sure zeno is too powerful
What is the name of the music in the background?
Btw gr8 video! 👍
That's I want to know
I agree and disagree with the fact that Zeno is vulnerable to an attack! I agree because I thought that as well and it makes sense, because he has Gaurds but I disagree because if this were the case that Zeno is vulnerable than Zeno would ALWAYS! Have his guards with him no matter what! We have seen many instances where Zeno is alone, for example when Zeno pressed the Omni Button than Zeno came , but his Guards weren't there meaning that Zeno can take care of any threat, presumably! That's the only time I remember Zeno alone, but I feel like one example would be enough to make sense
It doesnt make sense that he could be killed because he literally the one who created all the universe, this includes everyone, goku, beerus, etc etc, and your teling me he could be killed?
@@VercingetorixGaming He is the King of All, but that doesn't mean he created everything, we have never seen him create anything in the whole series, we have only seen him destroy, and many people think that he can't create large or important things like universes for example. That's an actual theory out there and it kind of makes sense. Also we know that even though he is the King of All, he isn't omnipotent and he isn't omniscient.
I'm sure he can be manipulated. He may have infinite strength but he's definitely not omniscient nor is he omnipotent. He is mentally weak and that's why he needs the Grand Priest.
Norman Bates he doesn't have strength
I should've been more clear. He has infinite destructive power. Not battle power or combat skills
zeno dont need battle power because he can erase *ANYTHING* he want.
@@East_1305 yeah but there are one who is very strong yet so genius at the same time.
@@East_1305 zeno sama is affected by time, space and matter. So if one controls time, or manipulate matter, that can be the end of this cute lollipop omniking
Jotaro could defeat him cause its the same type of stand
Farmer with shotgun can defeat zeno
Zenos guards are just there to fight anyone who would piss zeno off otherwise the multiverse is GG
Zeno can't actually die,he's above the heaven , afterlife,and hell
He can only be erased , probably by a higher dimensional being
I scaled zeno to a 7d being,check the comment for speed if you wanna see the scale,I commented it in one of the comments that says 1.25 for speed
So he can only be killed by 8d or higher beings,and they need to erase him to even kill him
Zeno use fusion power (full power)
Giorno giovanna: you will never reach the truth.
Lets wait till someone makes an manga/ anime with an character with bigger Power than zeno
When you think about it zeno can only really control universe 7 and not other beings from different universes meaning there's a chance accelerator from a magical index can beat him by just touching him
If Zeno was to meet plank from ed, edd, and eddy he realise he's not as powerful as he think he is. You don't know what will happen when you mess with plank because he's quiet
i am pretty sure he can be destroyed because of the check and balance system within the pantheon
Zeno survived his own destruction of 12 universes without a scratch. He can’t be destroyed.
yes, cuz he wasn't trying to erase himself?
@@karyo-tq3fb no ./
Son Goku is comin' for some Heads. I'm tryin' to tell y'all.
I'd imagine that the guards aren't meant to protect him from physical harm, but rather to protect him from any unpleasantness from mortals like Goku. If they can stop someone like Goku from pissing off Zeno, then Zeno will not wipe out all creation, just because someone sneezed on him. It's more to protect mortals from Zeno than to protect Zeno from mortals.
I never really noticed the grand priest being in that part of the intro. That's interesting!
Just wish him away with the Super dragon balls. Those don't have limitations and can grant any wish so he can be destroyed by being wished away
It’s also been stated that nothing and no one can defeat the Omni king so it’s a paradox
Just use the button goku was given by the omni king to teleport him to a different timeline then gtho of there lol
Exactly
Thing is no type of dragon ball can destroy a being stronger than him
Or switch bodies with Zeno
Well of you look up the one minute deleted scene of goku vs jiren, the daikioshin protected the Zenos. So probably
Zeno erased an entire multiverse and it didn’t hurt him, he survived in the void like it was nothing, so I do t believe anyone could touch him.
However, Future Zeno is debatable. Infinity vs Infinity? Would they nullify one another or would Future Zeno’s age give him the experience? Or would Present Zeno be in a bit better physical condition, due to being younger? Zeno clearly does not train, so I don’t know, but if anyone could beat Zeno it would be Zeno.
Of course he can. If he doesn't exist outside of time (ahem--but Jiren can?) then he is NOT 'omnipowerful.'
Denizen of the Ages for now he can't be destroyed
Jiren does not exist outside of time, nor does he surpass it.
Lloyd Irving Explain how Jiren overpowered Hit's time binding attack then.
Zeno is armyking
Supreme kai said"No can beat the omni king its IMPOSSIBLE"
Kami Tenchi, Divine Spawn, PR Beyonder, DR. Doom at one point, I could keep going lol.
No Zeno lifewipes by breathing and erases all of them along with their Universe from existance inf times over without even noticing any of these weaklings. They're not worthy to be noticed by a being like Zeno
@@raimond225 dude pretty sure sure zeno can only effect db's universes due to this another fictional world views him as some random kid
Yes of course he can. Every ,,invincible" character was defeated in dragonball. Frieza, Cell, Buu, Zamasu, Jiren, Broly (bc plot I know) all them got defeated. Because they need to lose at some point.
Holy shit you again
It's important to remember that not only is his guards always around but the Grand Priest himself...With him on guard, its highly unlikely any attack will get within a mile of Zeno
By Tori Bot.
Zoku Son Totally agree with you dude. ❤️😛
Adventurous Adventurer Augustus HOW DID YOU KNOW?!?!
We have no information about the realm Grand Priest & the angels come from. Zeno is all powerful in our reality but he may not be a great deal where angels come from
Goku "Kaioshin, do you think the Zeno of this time still exists?" Universe 7 Kaioshin "yes, he must. Whoever it is Zeno cannot be defeated" not saying Kaioshins word makes it law but you said there was no part in super that implies that Zeno is truly immortal
Zeno can't be defeated no matter how powerful their enemy is , Zeno has two guard not bcoz of protection it's bcoz he was alone and those guard company him , remember zeno tell whis and beerus he want to meet Goku it's bcoz he want a friend , the whole universe were afraid of him so how can he have friends. Unlike Goku who is dumb
The Supreme kai said "No one can defeat Zeno, it's impossible".
if one of the angels could, the supreme kai wouldn't know. plus, the god of destruction - god of creation - angel relationship, like with beerus - supreme kai - whis, exists with zeno - super shenron - grand priest. and in those relationships, the angel is the strongest, so grand priest could be powerful enough to defeat zeno, he just won't because angels aren't supposed to interfere.
@@karyo-tq3fb your theory isn't dumb ! I liked it !
@@karyo-tq3fb that relationship is different from angels and god of destructions the reason why grand priest is there because he is way more stronger than other angels he is able to rewind if Zeno erases multiverses Zeno is not a god of destruction he can creat he made a device for goku to call him so he is way stronger than you can imagine even granpriest has no chance we wouldn’t know till the next dragon ball super series or movie
No way that Zeno can be defeated except through vegeta's transformation into ULTRA INSTINCT AND fuse with ULTRA INSTINCT goku using the potra and become ULTRA INSTINCT VEGETO
Be funny if frost change a attack on Zeno when he is idfk sleeping or something and Zeno just doesn’t get hurt at all
Zeno in the thumbnail IS SO CUTE ☺☺☺ hes very cute in the show
Immortality does not mean invincibility
It's been stated by the all reliable supreme kai that Zeno can never be defeated not matter who it is
Debate?
@@getoarmehmetaj5387 No. This comment is three years old and I was being sarcastic.
Zeno is a mere ant to Hajun
I don't think Zeno is physically strong at all. He just has the power to erase anything in the blink of an eye. Not saying he's super weak but I bet someone like Piccolo or Krillin can kill Zeno if he wasn't paying attention.
I actually agree with you
and i don't think anyone in the world can kill him,even if every being in dragon ball univers used all their power it wouldn't hurt him at all,that's how i see it,unless we get clear fact or story in the futur maybe no one can hurt him maybe in the angel fight together maybe even goku can or even a saibama KAPPA
Ive thought this since he was introduced. Hes more of a mage type and not a fightee
idk about that. he destroyed an entire multiverse timeline that nobody couldve survived and he was just standing there in the destruction and floating there afterwards in nothingness not hurt at all. no way that a fodder character can hurt him, maybe the grand priest or someone.
AustinLong1639 what the heck zeno erased entire timeline and multiverse but its attack cant even hurt him but you said piccolo can kill him 😂 😂 lol
At the power leaping rate Super is going at, at the very least he's going to be fodder by episode 300.
I think probably they will introduce a higher and more powerful person that can beat Zeno
Like whoever created him. Or the Grand Priest since he is his Angel.
Amazing
Simple answer: NO, HE IS LIFE ITSELF
No
No he can't mike
NO
Anime character that can beat zeno.
1.)Anti Spiral
2.)Saitama
3.)Death Note
4.)Tori-bot
5.)Pen
I have had a theory from the beginning that no one has commented on. But on each universe that gets erased, Zeno loses power. Examples of this thought would be when the first two universes vanished. First he couldnt seee because people were going so fast in some fight. There ws some other fight after the other universe that he couldnt tell what was going on. But these happened after each universe was destroyed. It would be interesting to see these next three episodes 120-122 and see how he reacts with 2 and 6 gone.
Lastly do you remember that his ngel is the top five in the multiverse. We still dont know what rank, or even if Jirin is or who the other 4 are.
Earsure and Death are 2 different concepts
Maybe if he dies so do all of the universes so he has guards so that it doesn’t happen
Zeno have good reflexes
Many ppl blitzes zeno
I've made my own speculation that Zeno has been killed before but only to be reborn, that's why he's so unversed in the ways of the world, or after a certain amount of time he just resets back to infancy and grows back up again
Technacally Zeno erases people and universes from existence.
Zeno guards is to keep him from destroying everything just like the grand priest
I feel zeno is hideing something
Zeno is not completely above all forms of death because he is not omnipotent, so if there is someone stronger than him, there is someone who can kill him. Zeno has shown power on the low 5th dimensional scale, which is (literally) infinitely stronger than the feat of jiren and goku shaking the infinitely large world of void, which is a 4th dimensional feat. (Long story short: All dimensons are infinite in those below it, and 0 in those above it. Creating space-time requires 5th dimensional power, goku and jiren shook infinity, on the 3 dimension scale, making them at least 4D, and you could argue they shook the world of void in itself including the space-time, if weren't for the fact that the world of void lacks both.)
well, technically garlic jr. is still alive. so the argument could be made that he is now immune to death. As for zeno, i really don't think he's as important as the show has made him out to be. So far we've seen him destroy lots of things but we haven't seen him create anything. This tells me that someone must be higher on the corporate ladder. It also tells me that the multiverse, as a whole, would probably be better off without zeno. People may start arguing about zamasu but really, he wasn't a threat to anything except the future trunks timeline and that ended up being destroyed anyway.
zeno probably has the power to create things.
@@kingsman5913 He might, but if so he hasn't demonstrated it.
I'm pretty sure Infinite Zamasu would've killed everyone in future timeline and then in the main timeline if he kept growing in size then laugh for eternity. It doesn't make sense to say He wasn't a threat wtf do you even watch the series before spouting nonsense like that ?
In DC comics, Perpetua states she created universes with life but fails to destroy a single universe as she needs to gather energy to destroy one fcking universe which proves she has limits to his power, Zeno doesn't. He blinks all of existance without effort. Why does it matter if Zeno can't create stuff like her or are you one of those who think reality warping means Omnipotent ? typical downplayer know jack about DB
@@raimond225 and i'm pretty sure that's not how timelines work. Nothing in the show actually showed us he had the power to travel between timelines. Apparently even zeno can't travel between alternate timelines. That's why there are two of them now. As for the dc thing, i'm not sure i understand your point. Zeno is a child, toriyama has always had a celestial order that's expanded as needed, and the grand priest is basically just a baby sitter. My db instincts are telling me that zeno has a dad and that dad is a creator, whereas zeno is a destroyer.
the guards look like they came from megaman legends, not sure if its the first or second game
Well I searched this video because in Dbs heroes Hearts and Zemasu was saying they can kill zeno by some kind of universe seed
Can Goku be stronger then Zeno?
Gohan Blanco 100 por ciento can destroy him.
El GRANDE PAPA would destroy him
What If someone poisons Zeno, and he doesn’t realize it, does he die, since he’s not strong but can erase anything?
Zeno needs his guards as a source of transport and on the episode that future zeno erases zamasu, the grand kais state that no matter what the omni King cannot be destroyed no matter what! ☺️ Also the reason I say that his guards are a source of transport is because after zeno erased zamasu and universe 10, goku travelled back and found zeno just floating around! 😂☺️
Yes by his parents Or a deity weapon. Also by suicide or the 2 Zenos gettin angry at more than just planet board games.
I would assume so. Hence why he has guards. Just like a god of destruction is replaced when it dies, im sure Zeno is too. They will just put someone else on the throne
Theres one. Gold Experience Requiem
Finally a jojo fan!
Oh my god.Not even Gold Experience Requiem could defeat Zeno.Im not saying Zeno is all powerful.Anyone 5d could beat Zeno.GER is far from beating even Krillin.Zeno existence erasure and calls it a day
@@alphadasaiyan235 cant jus ger set his speed and power to 0 ?
@@getoarmehmetaj5387 GER was never stated nor shown to reset speed or power to 0.Only actions.And even then its actions it can react to.
Toriyama is the strongest in dbz and dbs so well I mean ge can kill the full show
I made a what-if Gogeta Dbs was permanent and he killed Zeno than became the Omni King
Bring me Zeno!
HIS POWER LEVELS ARE OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL
The only thing What can destroy Zeno…
*Is family*
Zeno can't fight, Zeno can only erase everything
DIO Over Heaven has a chance to defeat this guy
DOH would smack zeno and zeno is not omnipotent there is no omnipotence in fiction zeno is fodde
This is the god burrito complex can god microwave a burrito so hot he himself can't eat it
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@@GregTheAlien07 No stand in jojo would defeat Zeno.Giorno dies along with his father.
The only one who can kill grand zeno is....i dare not say his name. Monaka
lol
Yes
No only tori bot can beat zeno he created zeno
How to destroy Zeno, ask him if he can rhyme the word orange.
The grand priest looks like palpatine
Why the lengthy speculation? Ask Akira...
his guards are to keep others in check so they dont piss zeno off
Zamasu was not really dead he was erased but still exist just not physically there
Soo can he?
Only if there's 2 omni-kings trying to destroy 1 omni-king
The guards are astehitc ascetic astecthic it looks cool.
Or maybe he has power over time and could rewind 3 minutes like the angles do and erase his killer
It would be really funny if Zeno could be killed by a normal bullet.
Harold could