He was not the system he just played in the system it was the same system when he got old and won a championship. His first two championships I agree he was the system the next 3 he wasn’t.
this mfkers didnt watch the spurs so they are spouting nonsense, ask pop whos is the system and he will clearly tell you its tim duncan. This guys are comparing KG that went to form a super team to duncan who bring a bunch of role players to championships.
@@nodayzoff5902 No it wasn't, defence and offense was completely run through him, the offense responsibility changes in 06/07ish to parker and Duncan takes his foot off the gas to help the team overall and be healthy for the playoffs.
@darnellwilliams8783 Yeah, but when individual players( other than these guys) talk about Timmy, it ain't what you are saying... he gets the credit and praise. give me someone flowers isn't glazing, and factually, no one in the room shut down Tim Duncan😅
Gil's Arena changing history. The Spurs system was great because Duncan was the system. KG was a system too, but not as great as Duncan. Being louder and flashier doesn't make you better.
That system was ran by PoP, not Duncan. Stop ✋️. The biggest threat my heat had to face off against in 2013 and 2014 was Pop, not Duncan, Ginobili, Parker, or Leonard.
This is not even a debate. Tim Duncan is the greatest power forward of all time. He was more disciplined than KG. Mentally tougher. And he was just a boring fundamentalist, Who’s IQ was off the charts. The man never had a losing season in his career
At their peak. Tim was better than KG. Tim was a better post player, larger frame, better paint defender. KG is extremely, extremely talented, but I can't see KG dominate offensively/defensively like Tim did in the 03 finals V the Nets. 04 KG was special, versatile, but even at his peak. He is a notch below. Duncan is a top 5 player all time. The disrespect he gets is unreal.😢 Switch Duncan to Minny. It would have been easier to build around Duncan v KG. Even with the front office mismanagement. He can be 1st team all NBA at the 4 or 5. KG is a 3 turned 4. I think Nic is on the WEEDS!!! with some of his tweets!
KG was more versatile defensively tho and could also stretch the floor better than Duncan, which would translate better in today's era than Duncan's game. I agree however that Duncan was a better post player, which during that era was more essential. I think an argument could be made that KG was more skilled though.
@hoopsfan3437 what is Skill. I agree he was a little more versatile as a 3, when then became a 4 as he put on some weight. Maybe better at switching v the perimeter on D. Better for this era. Maybe..I think a dominate post will always be needed. On the block there is little that anyone could do to stop Duncan. He has a solid 10 to 15 ft shot, he didn't pick and pop as much. I think KG did, because his post offense wasn't as strong, and used his speed, quickness v other 4s as his scoring. Not that he wasn't a good post scorer, just not as dominate. Fundamentally, Duncan has him beat with footwork, positioning etc
KGs peak was way higher its not even really close. KG was fast and big enough to guard 1-5, he could switch to a one or two, stay in front of them, chase down a block, then run down the floor a pop a 20 foot jumper in your face. KG had handles and was also a great passer too. Timmy D was great but was really on had a post game and was a great low post defender. He play for better teams his whole career which is why he has 5 rings, put him on another team and he doesnt have the same success.
Watch kg play. He didn’t have a team like Duncan for years. Duncan was a system player. Kg skill wise was better than Duncan. He had the dawg in him to. Duncan was more of a silent killer. Give me the fkn serial killer.
I'd give it to Timmy. He was better for longer. I still remember him out playing Bosh in the finals at 38. This debate is sorta like comparing Dame vs Curry.
Tim Duncan is every coach ideal player. Talented and technical skilled with selfless discipline, he made the team work competitively. He’s probably the most unproblematic player with a career comparable to Kobe. It’s no debate with kg
Saying Kobe’s career was “unproblematic” is WILD. Public teammate beefs, trade demands, off the court issue. KG was way less “problematic” a player than Kobe.
If Rashad was there, he would've said something like: "If you take away the accolades, Taj Gibson is actually a better all time PF than BOTH of them because he's a better pure hooper 🤷🏾♂️👑"
@@eternity3822Duncan was carried heavy by his elite role players Duncan is a glorified system player Duncan Greg Pop said Manu would've been a Superstar anywhere
Resident spurs fan here, it is laughable that people keep disrespecting Tim Duncan. Duncan WAS THE SPURS SYSTEM!!!!! Since he’s been gone the spurs ain’t sniffed a finals.
Correction: Since Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobli, Tony Parker, David Robinson, Robert Horry, Bruce Bowen, Kawhi Leonard aren’t there, they haven’t made a finals.
@@GLENISgotastorytotell by your brain dead logic Tim Duncan should’ve been able to repeat a title at least once then right? My point is that the Spurs had GREAT talent around him as they should. To say it’s all Tim Duncan when they couldn’t repeat at his peak is ridiculous
@@juicelord4792 that litterally has nothing to do with what I said lol you do use comprehension well. I said that Tim Duncan was the system, what does winning back to back titles have to do with that 😂😂😂😂 NOTHING!!!!
@@GLENISgotastorytotell you’re literally a moron. You said that implying that Spurs success is entirely based on Tim. If that’s the case, why didn’t the Spurs repeat with Tim? If Tim is the system, why didn’t he win finals MVP’s 5x instead of 3x while his teammates got 2 of them? He’s the system, right? 🤣🤣😂
😂dawg look up dirks career he’s legit slept on he should have won like 2-3 MVPs instead of 1 also he could have also made more final appearances he was nasty with a shot that was impossible to block
Gil was completely wrong about Cassell. Sam was doing the same numbers with the Bucks for multiple seasons b4. He left out Sprewell. Cassell and Spree were KG's, manu and parker
@@shinsukecorbin425 Y'all don't remember Tony Parker getting benched for Speedy Claxton in the finals cause he couldn't throw a rock in the ocean for two games straight?
@@younglove3362 Duncan was always better and more dominant than KG. Even KG outta his own mouth always said Duncan was the better player during their time
@choppabrown3741 okay casual. Keep telling yourself that. You're talking to someone that lived in the era and watched them both play. KG was overall better.
He also came in dominant while KG was young… Minnesota would be much different and KG may not have played a big role early on and they probably wouldn’t have won a ring with David Robinson
@@GH-cd6oqand you’re acting like a dumbass on purpose like players don’t say other players were better than them or on their level just cause they’re being nice or humble. This shit ain’t new dude lol
kg is better at most things, but only by a little bit. tim is better low post scorer by a wide margin, and could take more physicality in the paint. Kgs defense is arguably the greatest of all time. If I have a go to scorer, im taking kg, if i dont im taking tim.
KG winning the same amount as Duncan with PoP and Duncan losing the same amount on the T. Wolves as KG. Y'all need to stop trying to change the narrative, POp is the best coach in the NBA.
KG was playing with Wally, Sam Cassell, and Sprewell. Let KG rock with David Robinson and then Tony, Manu, Bruce Bowen, and then Kawhi while having a top 3 coach of all time, and KG would have more than 1 ring. Similar to how T-Mac would've seen the same type of success as Kobe if he played with Shaq and Gasol.
@@pradayou5405not true t Mac had a Yao, grant hill but all 3 of them couldn’t stay healthy even when they was healthy they couldn’t make it out the first round , the year they made it past the first round t Mac was out Ron artest was on the team that day
If you haven't noticed, these fake hood players always pick the more hood, street type players. So kg over Duncan makes sense. Once you see it you can't unsee it
KG is a better raw talent. Duncan is a better fit for a team because of his effeciency and rebounding. KG is one of the greats; however, Duncan dominated a prime Kobe and Shaq.
Better is not equally viewed. Some think Better = more athletic Or Better = more rings With that being said, Duncan is better than KG…in everything. And I HATED Tim Duncan and the Spurs. Lol
Thank you! I just said the same thing to my cousin while watching this clip. People say “put KG on that Spurs team and they win just as many if not more championships,” but it is never that simple. They don’t take into consideration the teams the Spurs went through to get to the mountain top. I do not believe KG gets that 2003 Spurs team past the Lakers. Parker was being subbed out for Speedy Claxton at the end of playoff games because he couldn’t shoot. It was Manu’s first season playing for the team. D. Rob was a shell of himself. KG would not have been enough IMO, but Tim was. I even question whether the Spurs would have beaten that Pistons team in ‘05 if you replaced Tim with KG.
@@Pogol13 it blows my mind that people think tony and manu came into the league as the players they became. Hell, some think David was still in his prime in the early 2000's
Those Wolves teams wasn’t beating those teams y’all gotta stop the bs..Lakers had Shaq and Kobe that couldn’t be beat yet y’all expected KG to do it with no real offensive help??
The goal posts move so much in how you determine who is better. You bring up Jordan they run right to rings. But KG is better than Duncan who has 5 lmao and more individual accolades too. Stop it.
Flip Saunders coached Garnett for 10 years and appeared in only 1 West Finals. After leaving the Wolves, Saunders replaced Larry Brown as coach of the Detroit Pistons with similar Championship lineup, and went to play back-to-back East Finals on his first two seasons. So is it the system? Or the player has to do with it? On the other hand, before Tim Duncan arrived in San Antonio, the team had ZERO NBA Finals appearance and ZERO NBA Titles. The same is true since he retired. And if Tim Duncan has the personality of KG and go around pod casts after pod casts to argue his case, he would be competing for the no. 1 GOAT position.
Put Tim in Minnesota, they would've had a system. Tim didn't need to handle the ball. He was a hooper. He set screens created opportunities for lane driving and open shots. He sunk down properly on the block or high post. He played the game the right way for a PF. That's why he's the best.
@@hardwoodthought1213 Duncan had a prime Manu he was dominate in that playoff run and the 05 championship where Manu was robbed on that FMVP...Manu beat team USA in 04 single handily...Garnett never had half the players Duncan had during his prime.
KG only had like nine 30 point playoff games in his entire career compared to thirty plus 30 point playoff games for Duncan. KG has always been more of a Pippen(that’s not a diss) type player. Clearly great and extremely versatile but much better as a 2nd option. He never proved he could take over down the stretch of playoff games the way Shaq, Duncan, Kobe, Dirk, LBJ, Wade proved they could do even in his same era. His back to the basket game was pretty much nonexistent late in games and he would settle for too many jumpers and not get to the FT line. I’m not saying he should have won a ring in Minnesota but c’mon man stop disrespecting Duncan because he wasn’t flashy.
KG damn near single-handedly took them to the conference what are you talking about?? KG was also one of the first players since Pip to average team highs in all the major categories
KG could have won titles with the Spurs but not as many and he would not have had 20 yrs success like Duncan had. KG and Duncan had wildly different personalities. KG's personality i dont think would have fit with Pop and the Spurs as well as Duncan did imo. KG wore his heart on his sleeve and wasnt afraid to speak his mind. Duncan was more even keel and mild mannered. Both are good in different ways but for the Spurs system Duncan fits better than KG.
@@younglove3362KG had more talented teams in the early 00s and he only got out of the first round ONCE! KG ain't taking 39yo Robinson, Kerr, rookie Manu and sophomore to a championship, let's be real now
@@Najdorf_bruh KG had a old Cassell, a troubled Spree and a shooter in Wally..Please elaborate how that group is better than Robinson, Parker, Manu?? Hell I think you forgot Timmy had one of the most versatile big men of the 2000s in Boris D
Gil is right about KG deferring. People forget when Scottie Pippen called KG out for disappearing in the 4th quarter. He was the OG 3 qtr superstar. No hate but I remember them games.
Duncan is just more unstoppable in the paint with the left and right jump hooks, running hooks, blowing by with easy layups. Duncan gets easier baskets and he’s unstoppable doing it efficiently. Even with the bank shot . Duncan has all of the moves. KG is just superior with outside jumper and he had the turnaround fade. Of course he was versatile too as well. But his tendency is the outside jumper.
These guys say Duncan is better is only better than kg because of accolades…that’s the point of playing the games is winning titles and getting accolades these guys make no sense…Duncan is a better player than kg simple
For the first 10 yrs, Tim Duncan WAS THE SYSTEM! Duncan demanded a double team, NO ONE could guard him 1 on 1..KG on the other hand didn't require a double team.
@@younglove3362the years KG missed the playoffs because he didn’t make his teammates better like TD did .. TD teams never missed the playoffs.. He didn’t have to leave to find it either.. his team played for him .. ask Starbury 😂😂
@@Pswayze23 so does when you have Phil Jackson Pippen Rodman .. you gonna say Jordan wasn’t as good either because he had a good team and coach or naw .. KG had better players in Minnesota 🤷🏽♂️
If Tim Is drafted to Minnesota, Minnesota Is now the Spurs. They disrespecting Duncan’s skills on both sides of the ball. He was a great Individual defender.
One thing yall forgot to take account of that Timmy had better or comparable stats to KG while having better players around him, where as KG was the alpha and omega of the timberwolves. Look at how KG's numbers dropped when he joined Boston (aka a team with some talent). In my opinion timmy was more efficient more dependable and even aged more gracefully than KG did. Even till his last 3 years in the league timmy was still a problem, while KG was just a name on the court
Tim duncan was actually a center playing power forward because david Robinson was on spurs when they drafted duncan since duncan had success playing power forward they kept him at power forward
Duncan was a big pf he always stayed at pf even after David left splitter and Naz Muhammed started at Creve m center in the spurs small ball line ups he played center but Duncan was a big pf that's all especially for the Era he more of a center than this new Era but he's basically AD better at pf but can play center but I still think kg was a monster with more skill but Tim size is what made him better but again if kg and him switched teams I think you gotta think if you put Tim on that Celtics team and kg on that kawhi team and go from there Tim more of a scorer and kg defense is crazy so it's a hard pick I'm still not sure I actually like webber switch them with him and what you got?
I honestly don't know why You guys even bring Nick Young on. He isn't a very good public speaker, he never stays on topic, he is incapable of defending his own position, and you can barely understand what he says. It's like listening to an auto tuned trap rapper with dyslexia read sports article written by Kendrick Perkins.
Cause he’s a homie who knows enough about basketball. This isn’t First Take so every guest or co-host doesn’t need to act like they know everything about everything it’s fine to just have a chill person present 14:18
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m Depends on the scenario. If a designed post play is run probably Timmy, but clock running down ball gets passed to him 18 feet from the bucket with 5 seconds left and has to get his own shot? I’m taking Ticket.
I've said this before in a few FB NBA groups in regards to KG vs. Duncan. If you are drafted and you have; David Robinson, Sean Elliott, Mario Ellie, Kevin Willis, Malik Rose, Avery Johnson, Vinny del Negro, Antonio Daniels, Steve Kerr, and what was left of Will Purdue, you better get that to the finish line with a 🏆!
You realize the Spurs had the worst record and won the lottery to pick Duncan .. Robinsons back was done at that point .. Duncan did not miss the playoffs in his career even when those players left and retired .. KG didn’t make his teammates better .. Duncan got new teammates and still won’t titles .. he didn’t have to leave to find one
This is crazy I don't even think KG agrees with this If you put KG in that "system" it's going to be a all different "system" Offense and defense was ran thru Tim Idk if KG want that responsible
I agree with Nick, I always said this same thing. If you look at both KG & Duncan’s prime stats, they were similar. Great post scorers, great post defenders, grab boards and highly efficient. You switch them 2 and Spurs still win a championship.
If you put Tim Duncan on Minnesota Timberwolves he'll have 10,000 more points if you put kg on San Antonio he wouldn't be KG because that's popovich's team
Tim Duncan came into the NBA as that guy. He was a legit sure fire thing if u ever seen one. Duncan made all nba 1st team as a rookie. Defensive second team as a rookie. He came in 5th for DPOTY as a rookie. People forget because he played so damn long time.
Duncan is clearly better, I don't even get the argument. The spurs were the spurs because of Duncan. You can give credit to KG without taking shine away from Duncan. KG had to deal with bad front office forever. That's a fact. It doesn't mean he'd have 5 rings if he were in Tim Duncan's place. Garnett should be compared to Dirk. Duncan is far and away the best at his position ever
So if Timmy made the Spurs so good why does Parker have a finals MVP over him?? Saying the team was good cause of Timmy would imply Timmy won every finals MVP when we know he didn’t win them all
I'm from MN and went to many MN vs Spurs games and Tim always cooked KG. I absolutely love KG, but Duncan was much better and could FINISH games, which KG always had a hard time doing!!!
Tim did 4 years of college vs KG coming straight out of high school .... Tim came in a polished player already & KG was raw straight out of high school
Ahhm not so fast there. The second year kg missed the playoffs. Last year Celtics lost in seven in the finals to the Lakers when perk was out and they got outrebounded by 24 put some context to what you're saying.
Tim always made the huge correct plays, KG did not. Tim was like a great quarterback he made the right plays in crunch more often than most aspecially over kg when he got the ball from tony parker up at the high post
The main difference is that Tim Duncan was better as the go to guy when it mattered most. KG was more of a secondary player in those moments. KG was more AD and TD was more Barkley.
They gotta dead this "roll the ball out" phrase. People keep trying to have these stupid conversations on one guy who career don't match another possibly being a better player. Shit is not a talent show. What did these guys do with their talents? That's how you evaluate who is better than who. Duncan and KG not even a conversation.
Thank you. If they believe basketball is down to a 1v1 contest start a league doing that. Because in the NBA, where it’s 5v5, Duncan impacted far more than KG
Tim Duncan came in and had David Robinson, and all star to show you the ropes. That’s a head start….KG did not have that privilege. Tim is great but put on Minnesota back then…..he would not have been good as KG. I just don’t think he would be as motivated without Poppovich.
You know in day 1 of practice Duncan beat Robinson so badly they had to blackout the windows so fans and media couldn’t see? Robinson walked into Pop’s office and said it’s his team now He didn’t need Robinson to show him anything. Man was the universal number 1 pick in 95, 96 and 97. He wasn’t a 20th pick who tools years to develop
@@mentalgame5608 What? LMFAO Marc Gasol was a better 3 point shooter, mid range shooter, FT shooter, high post and mid post player, pick and roll player, passer, ball handler on offence. Shaq was a better low post scorer, better around the rim and better offensive rebounder. Gasol did WAAAY more than Shaq, so why isn’t he better than Shaq?
@@hardwoodthought1213 1. You don’t understand the definition of versatility 2. You must’ve not watched Shaq from ‘92-98’ 3. Marc gasol is a plodder and has bricks for feet. He isn’t moving as fast nor is he as explosive as Shaq.
@@mentalgame5608 Yes I do, and I just demonstrated it to you by showing that Gasol had far more of an arsenal than Shaq, hence he is more versatile. Okay, and Duncan is far more physical than KG, stronger, which KG couldn’t stop. It’s not like KG is an LBJ type athlete Dominance trumps versatility and Duncan simply was the best interior defender and scorer of his time. I don’t care that KG can switch onto a guard or shoot a 20 footer because those things don’t impact like what Duncan did better hence why Duncan produced at a far better level come playoff time
KG did get the wolves out the first round but they ran into those Lakers. The year the wolves had sprewell, Sam Castell etc etc that was KG best team to get to the champion. I feel Kenyan means Tim Duncan would make Minnesota a more consistent playoff team, maybe? IMO thoughts?
Nick is proof that just cuz u played the game doesn’t mean u know shit.
Facts. Can’t stand when he’s on the show.
He's trash, doesn't deserve to even be in the show
U guys act like he comparing him to a bum. Kg is close so this isnt a ridiculous comparison
@@ChrisBurks-yc7zvu right but let’s be honest Nick be high ashell tweeting a lot of those tweets😂
@@donatelloryb I don’t doubt that.
Duncan has got to be the most under-appreciated player in NBA history.
Amen
Boring🥱but 1st team all nba his first year in the league championship finals mvp his next year 1st 10 years 3 championships 5 mvps
Funny because KG is more under rated than Duncan. If anything, Duncan is over rated.
@JonReyonoldsESQ yall overrated Timothy Duncan he was a system player with Elite Role Players
Not really… he usually in most peoples top 10 ever
Tim Duncan was quite literally the system so idk what they’re talking about with that defensive stuff and even the offence
He was not the system he just played in the system it was the same system when he got old and won a championship. His first two championships I agree he was the system the next 3 he wasn’t.
this mfkers didnt watch the spurs so they are spouting nonsense, ask pop whos is the system and he will clearly tell you its tim duncan. This guys are comparing KG that went to form a super team to duncan who bring a bunch of role players to championships.
Tim was not the system lol u forgot the admiral was already on the spurs?
@@nodayzoff5902Wait, so the way SA played in 2014 was how they played in 2001?
LMFAO, exposed you never watched
@@nodayzoff5902 No it wasn't, defence and offense was completely run through him, the offense responsibility changes in 06/07ish to parker and Duncan takes his foot off the gas to help the team overall and be healthy for the playoffs.
Tim Duncan would destroy everybody in the room and then hit you with the same ish he hit Kevin Garnett with "nice try"🤣🤣🤣
@Dj.Hylanda The Way Yall Glaze over Timothy Duncan is Wild Timothy was a system player.he was always Surrounded with Elite Role players
@darnellwilliams8783 Yeah, but when individual players( other than these guys) talk about Timmy, it ain't what you are saying... he gets the credit and praise. give me someone flowers isn't glazing, and factually, no one in the room shut down Tim Duncan😅
@@darnellwilliams8783he created the system. R u serious?
@@darnellwilliams8783you think you know better than Shaq and Barkley as well?
@@Stealther Charles barely was a playoff choker
Gil's Arena changing history. The Spurs system was great because Duncan was the system. KG was a system too, but not as great as Duncan. Being louder and flashier doesn't make you better.
Them wolves teams wasn’t anywhere near as good as the spurs or the coaching
the wolves had a worse team. tim got drafted to a top 3 team. kg went to the bottom of the nba
Exactly. Gil talking like Pop not trying to run the same system, before Wemby and after Duncan. It was trash
That system was ran by PoP, not Duncan. Stop ✋️. The biggest threat my heat had to face off against in 2013 and 2014 was Pop, not Duncan, Ginobili, Parker, or Leonard.
@@younglove3362facts Duncan was a system player
This is not even a debate. Tim Duncan is the greatest power forward of all time. He was more disciplined than KG. Mentally tougher. And he was just a boring fundamentalist, Who’s IQ was off the charts. The man never had a losing season in his career
You sound like you started watching basketball in 2009. 🙄
@@younglove3362 You telling me KG is better than Duncan
@jallison5457
If you knew your history, or actually watched them in their prime" I wouldn't have to tell you. You'd already know.
@@younglove3362 Yes , That’s why I said Duncan is better. We can agree to disagree and that’s fine to
@@jallison5457
You can agree to disagree. It just makes you wrong. Garnett was better.
Swag is crazy, " you wasn't brother knowledge"📣😆😆🤣
don’t forget lebron averaged 37 PPG against McCants
And what did you accomplish in life besides sucking off another man? Goof
Doing too much
What did you accomplish or do except having another man in your mouth? 😂
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TIM DUNCAN TOP 5 all time
🤔 I have him about 6 but can’t argue with top 5.
At their peak. Tim was better than KG. Tim was a better post player, larger frame, better paint defender. KG is extremely, extremely talented, but I can't see KG dominate offensively/defensively like Tim did in the 03 finals V the Nets. 04 KG was special, versatile, but even at his peak. He is a notch below. Duncan is a top 5 player all time. The disrespect he gets is unreal.😢
Switch Duncan to Minny. It would have been easier to build around Duncan v KG. Even with the front office mismanagement. He can be 1st team all NBA at the 4 or 5. KG is a 3 turned 4. I think Nic is on the WEEDS!!! with some of his tweets!
KG was more versatile defensively tho and could also stretch the floor better than Duncan, which would translate better in today's era than Duncan's game. I agree however that Duncan was a better post player, which during that era was more essential. I think an argument could be made that KG was more skilled though.
@hoopsfan3437 what is Skill. I agree he was a little more versatile as a 3, when then became a 4 as he put on some weight. Maybe better at switching v the perimeter on D. Better for this era. Maybe..I think a dominate post will always be needed. On the block there is little that anyone could do to stop Duncan. He has a solid 10 to 15 ft shot, he didn't pick and pop as much. I think KG did, because his post offense wasn't as strong, and used his speed, quickness v other 4s as his scoring. Not that he wasn't a good post scorer, just not as dominate. Fundamentally, Duncan has him beat with footwork, positioning etc
Let’s remember who made this asinine comment. I don’t think KG would even co sign this BS
KGs peak was way higher its not even really close. KG was fast and big enough to guard 1-5, he could switch to a one or two, stay in front of them, chase down a block, then run down the floor a pop a 20 foot jumper in your face. KG had handles and was also a great passer too. Timmy D was great but was really on had a post game and was a great low post defender. He play for better teams his whole career which is why he has 5 rings, put him on another team and he doesnt have the same success.
Watch kg play. He didn’t have a team like Duncan for years. Duncan was a system player. Kg skill wise was better than Duncan. He had the dawg in him to. Duncan was more of a silent killer. Give me the fkn serial killer.
Spurs can't beat lakers wit KG. Tim was the force on both ends to at least slow Shaw down. KG too light
Matchup matters and Duncan better off going against Shaq than KG
Facts
It wasn’t just TIm tho lol the spurs team was defensively better
The lakers with KG? We just making up teams that didn’t exist now?
I'd give it to Timmy. He was better for longer. I still remember him out playing Bosh in the finals at 38. This debate is sorta like comparing Dame vs Curry.
Also I wonder how many chips Timmy would've won with Ray Allen, Paul Pierce and Rondo.
@@JohnDoe-k5rTimmy Duncan played in a system and was a team player
Except KG is the better overall talent. He could do more than TD could.
No dAme never win a mvp so we can’t say it
@@vante9588. If He could he would have did it.
Tim Duncan is every coach ideal player. Talented and technical skilled with selfless discipline, he made the team work competitively. He’s probably the most unproblematic player with a career comparable to Kobe. It’s no debate with kg
Saying Kobe’s career was “unproblematic” is WILD. Public teammate beefs, trade demands, off the court issue. KG was way less “problematic” a player than Kobe.
@@alod247read it again he didn’t say Kobe’s was not unproblematic
@alod247 yeah you didn't read what he wrote
Can’t measure KG timberwolves vs the whole spurs team
That’s cool , we’ve all heard the same news and interviews you have 😂 so we know what was said
If Rashad was there, he would've said something like: "If you take away the accolades, Taj Gibson is actually a better all time PF than BOTH of them because he's a better pure hooper 🤷🏾♂️👑"
😂😂😂 Dkm ..
Tim is better. I hate the disrespect on Tim.
KG was better. Y'all stay disrespecting KG.
@@younglove3362KG a twig compared to Tim Duncan
That’s not disrespect kg just as good
@@eternity3822Duncan was carried heavy by his elite role players Duncan is a glorified system player Duncan Greg Pop said Manu would've been a Superstar anywhere
It’s not disrespect to b compared to Another phenomenal player… tf u talkin bout
Stop it. Even Barkley said Tim is the best PF of all time and chuck's better than KG.
You can make an argument for KG being better than Charles.
Chuck isnt better than KG lol
Tim had the franchise,coach,teammates… bad faith argument
Chuck is not better than KG say no to drugs
@@josepht3377what about 03 where he put on a absolutely carry job in the playoffs
Resident spurs fan here, it is laughable that people keep disrespecting Tim Duncan. Duncan WAS THE SPURS SYSTEM!!!!! Since he’s been gone the spurs ain’t sniffed a finals.
Correction: Since Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobli, Tony Parker, David Robinson, Robert Horry, Bruce Bowen, Kawhi Leonard aren’t there, they haven’t made a finals.
@@juicelord4792 they literally had those dudes when Duncan left and didn’t make the finals 😂😂😂😂
@@GLENISgotastorytotell by your brain dead logic Tim Duncan should’ve been able to repeat a title at least once then right? My point is that the Spurs had GREAT talent around him as they should. To say it’s all Tim Duncan when they couldn’t repeat at his peak is ridiculous
@@juicelord4792 that litterally has nothing to do with what I said lol you do use comprehension well. I said that Tim Duncan was the system, what does winning back to back titles have to do with that 😂😂😂😂 NOTHING!!!!
@@GLENISgotastorytotell you’re literally a moron. You said that implying that Spurs success is entirely based on Tim. If that’s the case, why didn’t the Spurs repeat with Tim? If Tim is the system, why didn’t he win finals MVP’s 5x instead of 3x while his teammates got 2 of them? He’s the system, right? 🤣🤣😂
I guess we don’t count IQ, Fundamentals, and availability nomore
These dudes don't even take it into consideration
Kg and Lamar Odom was the evolution of the PF position for that era they were PF with small guy skills
KG and Duncan average 20 pts 12 reb vs Kenyon... Dirk average vs Kenyon 25.5 pts 9.5 rebs 😮
😂dawg look up dirks career he’s legit slept on he should have won like 2-3 MVPs instead of 1 also he could have also made more final appearances he was nasty with a shot that was impossible to block
@@coolbeans3414 They stole 1 from him..
If Duncan had dreads and tats and was trash talking everybody people would call him the Goat.
If Duncan was averaging 30
Tim Duncan does have dreads
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mnot then
Never
U should slow tim was boring to watch tht was the problem 😂😂
Gil was completely wrong about Cassell. Sam was doing the same numbers with the Bucks for multiple seasons b4. He left out Sprewell. Cassell and Spree were KG's, manu and parker
Gil doesn’t understand, it’s about making your teammates better which is what Tim Duncan did.
Spree had legal troubles he wasn’t Manu..And TP was a way better offensive player than Sammy
@@shinsukecorbin425 Y'all don't remember Tony Parker getting benched for Speedy Claxton in the finals cause he couldn't throw a rock in the ocean for two games straight?
There’s a difference between BETTER and GREATER. Duncan was both but KG was such a great player as well
Duncan was better if you're a casual and didn't watch them play. KG was actually the best player I'm the league at a point.
@@younglove3362 Duncan was always better and more dominant than KG. Even KG outta his own mouth always said Duncan was the better player during their time
@choppabrown3741 okay casual. Keep telling yourself that. You're talking to someone that lived in the era and watched them both play. KG was overall better.
Yes thank you. I think most people feel that Duncan is the goat PF, however the case could be made that at their peaks KG was a better overall player.
@@younglove3362is KG said it himself who tf are u to say otherwise just cause you “watched” it
Tim duncan would not of stayed in Minnesota as long as kevin Garnett did
Considering Tim never left San Antonio and took smaller deals to stay… You don’t know that.
So it’s Tim Duncan fault he got drafted to a great situation in San Antonio?
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mHe almost left San Antonio lol. Doc Rivers is to blame for him staying in San Antonio.
Tim never left the spurs
He also came in dominant while KG was young… Minnesota would be much different and KG may not have played a big role early on and they probably wouldn’t have won a ring with David Robinson
One thing I know, Spurs would not win that first chip against that Knicks team if it were a rookie KG instead of Duncan.
they don't win in 03 too
Duncan wasn’t a rookie.. he was 24
@@misteralfred459 you are right 3rd year.
It was his second year. @@aldinviray2970
KG came out of HS
Even KG says Tim was better
If he said that then it's because if accolades. But skill wise, KG dominates. And I bet KG would stand on that.
@@younglove3362Bro KG said it himself but you over here glazing for him. Pause
@@GH-cd6oqand you’re acting like a dumbass on purpose like players don’t say other players were better than them or on their level just cause they’re being nice or humble. This shit ain’t new dude lol
@@GH-cd6oq
Coming from someone talking about glazing. You're one to talk putting stuff in his mouth. Stupid kids 🙄
kg is better at most things, but only by a little bit. tim is better low post scorer by a wide margin, and could take more physicality in the paint. Kgs defense is arguably the greatest of all time. If I have a go to scorer, im taking kg, if i dont im taking tim.
Saying KG would have had more rings would be discrediting Timmy skills , coach pop can coach but Timmy got to put the ball in the basket .
or maybe its accrediting kg...?
KG winning the same amount as Duncan with PoP and Duncan losing the same amount on the T. Wolves as KG. Y'all need to stop trying to change the narrative, POp is the best coach in the NBA.
KG was playing with Wally, Sam Cassell, and Sprewell. Let KG rock with David Robinson and then Tony, Manu, Bruce Bowen, and then Kawhi while having a top 3 coach of all time, and KG would have more than 1 ring. Similar to how T-Mac would've seen the same type of success as Kobe if he played with Shaq and Gasol.
@@pradayou5405not true t Mac had a Yao, grant hill but all 3 of them couldn’t stay healthy even when they was healthy they couldn’t make it out the first round , the year they made it past the first round t Mac was out Ron artest was on the team that day
@@younglove3362facts KG would've easily won with Greg Pop those Spurs teams had Elite Role Players always
Hakeem was better than KG
Water is wet🤪
Hakeem a center
better than tim too
of course
@@rolandwashington1100 yeah, they both had a similar game though
Great basketball content during the off-season 💯 ❤
If you haven't noticed, these fake hood players always pick the more hood, street type players. So kg over Duncan makes sense. Once you see it you can't unsee it
Ima hood nigga and i will pick tim duncan every time
Y ALL FORGOT.
TIMMY IS THE SYSTEM!!
NO TD NO RINGS FOR SPURS!!
Y’all must forget Parker won a finals MVP over Timmy..It wasn’t just Timmy
@@shinsukecorbin425against….. Cleveland right? Point proven.
I’ll never understand the disrespect for Duncan and Olajuwon. They have the numbers and the chips and dominated their competition.
To say a player is a better player when the player you’re BIGGIN UP said that other player is BETTER is CRAZY!!!
KG went off accolades tho
It's insanity.
@@shinsukecorbin425and experience playing against him multiple times a year. In the west they played 4 games a season against each other
KG is a better raw talent. Duncan is a better fit for a team because of his effeciency and rebounding. KG is one of the greats; however, Duncan dominated a prime Kobe and Shaq.
Tim Duncan was the best player in the 2000s era, I’m taking him over Kobe hands down. Stop disrespecting the Big Fundamental!!!
Actually KG was the best player from 2002 to 2004. He was a big with all the skills of a small. Basically LeBron before LeBron.
This is a fact. It's not a question to me. That was Duncan era, he just wasn't flashy
Lmao hell no! Check the head to head.
@@younglove3362you smokin strong dope if you can compare KG to Lebron…… I’m not a Lebron fan
😂😂😂 Tim wasn't even top 3 bum
I mean, there's a reason why Paul Pierce has a finals MVP, KG has none, and Tim has 3.
Better is not equally viewed. Some think
Better = more athletic
Or
Better = more rings
With that being said, Duncan is better than KG…in everything. And I HATED Tim Duncan and the Spurs. Lol
Forget championships. Does Kg even get the spurs past the lakers in 2003?
Thank you! I just said the same thing to my cousin while watching this clip.
People say “put KG on that Spurs team and they win just as many if not more championships,” but it is never that simple. They don’t take into consideration the teams the Spurs went through to get to the mountain top.
I do not believe KG gets that 2003 Spurs team past the Lakers. Parker was being subbed out for Speedy Claxton at the end of playoff games because he couldn’t shoot. It was Manu’s first season playing for the team. D. Rob was a shell of himself. KG would not have been enough IMO, but Tim was.
I even question whether the Spurs would have beaten that Pistons team in ‘05 if you replaced Tim with KG.
@@Pogol13 it blows my mind that people think tony and manu came into the league as the players they became. Hell, some think David was still in his prime in the early 2000's
Those Wolves teams wasn’t beating those teams y’all gotta stop the bs..Lakers had Shaq and Kobe that couldn’t be beat yet y’all expected KG to do it with no real offensive help??
The goal posts move so much in how you determine who is better. You bring up Jordan they run right to rings. But KG is better than Duncan who has 5 lmao and more individual accolades too. Stop it.
don’t forget Clark scored 28 and 11 against Lexi
😂😂😂😂
Nah that’s crazy 🤣🤣
Dammmm 😂😂😂😂
They never played each other. They weren't in college at the same time . Stop making shit up
@@DreamHHSthey never played against each other
Flip Saunders coached Garnett for 10 years and appeared in only 1 West Finals. After leaving the Wolves, Saunders replaced Larry Brown as coach of the Detroit Pistons with similar Championship lineup, and went to play back-to-back East Finals on his first two seasons. So is it the system? Or the player has to do with it?
On the other hand, before Tim Duncan arrived in San Antonio, the team had ZERO NBA Finals appearance and ZERO NBA Titles. The same is true since he retired.
And if Tim Duncan has the personality of KG and go around pod casts after pod casts to argue his case, he would be competing for the no. 1 GOAT position.
Someone please tell gil that Casell was averaging 19-20 years before he went to Min
KG has one ring and he had a big three! Spurs are not winning that much with KG! 🤦🏽
Put Tim in Minnesota, they would've had a system. Tim didn't need to handle the ball. He was a hooper. He set screens created opportunities for lane driving and open shots. He sunk down properly on the block or high post. He played the game the right way for a PF. That's why he's the best.
Did Minnesota have Popovich? It goes both ways. Pop created a system around Tim. Tim made it work.
@@genghiskhan802Minnesota was no slouch
Garnett had the highest peak of any PF
Nah he doesn’t have a season like 2003 Duncan
@@hardwoodthought1213 Duncan had a prime Manu he was dominate in that playoff run and the 05 championship where Manu was robbed on that FMVP...Manu beat team USA in 04 single handily...Garnett never had half the players Duncan had during his prime.
@@kg21bestpf94 Prime Manu?
LMFAO, he was a fucking rookie averaging 8 PPG.
The fuck you talking about?
@@kg21bestpf94 2003 Manu prime? LMFAO, a rookie averaging 8 PPG 😂😂😂😂
You’ve been exposed
@@hardwoodthought1213 he was 26 years old and was good in the playoffs i never mentioned the regular season loser
KG only had like nine 30 point playoff games in his entire career compared to thirty plus 30 point playoff games for Duncan. KG has always been more of a Pippen(that’s not a diss) type player. Clearly great and extremely versatile but much better as a 2nd option. He never proved he could take over down the stretch of playoff games the way Shaq, Duncan, Kobe, Dirk, LBJ, Wade proved they could do even in his same era. His back to the basket game was pretty much nonexistent late in games and he would settle for too many jumpers and not get to the FT line. I’m not saying he should have won a ring in Minnesota but c’mon man stop disrespecting Duncan because he wasn’t flashy.
Well said! I’m having a conversation with my cousin about this right now and you said pretty much what I’ve been saying.
KG damn near single-handedly took them to the conference what are you talking about?? KG was also one of the first players since Pip to average team highs in all the major categories
@@shinsukecorbin425you completely missed the point
@@SolaceMcfly nah I got the point..Point is Timmy doesn’t win that many unless he goes to the Spurs..
KG could have won titles with the Spurs but not as many and he would not have had 20 yrs success like Duncan had. KG and Duncan had wildly different personalities. KG's personality i dont think would have fit with Pop and the Spurs as well as Duncan did imo. KG wore his heart on his sleeve and wasnt afraid to speak his mind. Duncan was more even keel and mild mannered. Both are good in different ways but for the Spurs system Duncan fits better than KG.
KG would have won just as many, if not more, with the Spurs. He actually makes the Spurs team better and wouldn't have to work as hard.
@@younglove3362KG had more talented teams in the early 00s and he only got out of the first round ONCE! KG ain't taking 39yo Robinson, Kerr, rookie Manu and sophomore to a championship, let's be real now
@Najdorf_ kG had more talent in the 2000's?????? Really????? 🙄
@@younglove3362 well definitely yeah, we can name em if u want to
@@Najdorf_bruh KG had a old Cassell, a troubled Spree and a shooter in Wally..Please elaborate how that group is better than Robinson, Parker, Manu?? Hell I think you forgot Timmy had one of the most versatile big men of the 2000s in Boris D
Swaggy smoking dope. Stats don't lie. Duncan goat PF.
Gil is right about KG deferring. People forget when Scottie Pippen called KG out for disappearing in the 4th quarter. He was the OG 3 qtr superstar. No hate but I remember them games.
Never forget that Lebron was averaging 37 against McCants.
What did you avg except having another man proud for his nuts being in your hands 😂?
Get your own thing
Tim has the most defensive teams selections of all time. Not just amongst big men
By a wide margin as well. 20% more selections than second place
Duncan is Top 5 All-Time... The big fundamental is what they called him. Very consistent on both ends
Duncan is just more unstoppable in the paint with the left and right jump hooks, running hooks, blowing by with easy layups. Duncan gets easier baskets and he’s unstoppable doing it efficiently. Even with the bank shot . Duncan has all of the moves. KG is just superior with outside jumper and he had the turnaround fade. Of course he was versatile too as well. But his tendency is the outside jumper.
These guys say Duncan is better is only better than kg because of accolades…that’s the point of playing the games is winning titles and getting accolades these guys make no sense…Duncan is a better player than kg simple
Timmy got most of his accolades cause his team was always top 3 compared to KG team who was damn near 8th seed
@@shinsukecorbin425 that’s kg fault make your team better than Tim team lol 😂
duncan all day. smarts over talent, AND he had both!
1 Ring vs 5 Rings. 1 Ring Wins. Swaggy Math 😂
Swaggy dumb as hell
Team vs player
Learn how to listen to listen instead of listening to respond. 💩 is embarrassing
Nick Young is a benchwarmer talking shit about a Superstar his opinion is already invalid
@@eternity3822but yours carries more weight?… 💀
For the first 10 yrs, Tim Duncan WAS THE SYSTEM! Duncan demanded a double team, NO ONE could guard him 1 on 1..KG on the other hand didn't require a double team.
Maaaannn where's mccants when you need him. He wouldn't have let this slide. No way K.G is better than Duncan.
TD is the best PF ever, Garnett is not even number 2
KG even said Timmy was better. Plz stop this
Where and when????
@@younglove3362the years KG missed the playoffs because he didn’t make his teammates better like TD did .. TD teams never missed the playoffs.. He didn’t have to leave to find it either.. his team played for him .. ask Starbury 😂😂
@@johnnytijerina4122 When you have coach pop, tony parker, manu, david robinson, bruce bowen and kawhi leonard, making playoffs isnt that hard
@johnnytijerina4122
If KG didn't make his team mates better then why does KG have more assist than Duncan?????
@@Pswayze23 so does when you have Phil Jackson Pippen Rodman .. you gonna say Jordan wasn’t as good either because he had a good team and coach or naw .. KG had better players in Minnesota 🤷🏽♂️
If Tim Is drafted to Minnesota, Minnesota Is now the Spurs. They disrespecting Duncan’s skills on both sides of the ball. He was a great Individual defender.
Funnily enough none of these guys were winners like Duncan. They don't understand what it takes.
Side note k mart sock be cold ngl
How many chips did the great Spurs system win before and after Duncan?? - 🍩
How many great players did the Spurs have before and after Duncan? 0
@@younglove3362 Thats the point.
@@khallidnurse2404
My point is that Duncan needed Greg. I don't know what you're point is.
@@younglove3362 Ever hear of David Robinson?
Also, multiple attempts were made to bring in all-stars after Duncan that failed
I got Tim at 6 or 7 all time
This the prime example of why having more "skill(s)" doesnt make you a better player.
One thing yall forgot to take account of that Timmy had better or comparable stats to KG while having better players around him, where as KG was the alpha and omega of the timberwolves. Look at how KG's numbers dropped when he joined Boston (aka a team with some talent). In my opinion timmy was more efficient more dependable and even aged more gracefully than KG did. Even till his last 3 years in the league timmy was still a problem, while KG was just a name on the court
Tim duncan was actually a center playing power forward because david Robinson was on spurs when they drafted duncan since duncan had success playing power forward they kept him at power forward
Shaq Made Timmy a power forward
Duncan was a big pf he always stayed at pf even after David left splitter and Naz Muhammed started at Creve m center in the spurs small ball line ups he played center but Duncan was a big pf that's all especially for the Era he more of a center than this new Era but he's basically AD better at pf but can play center but I still think kg was a monster with more skill but Tim size is what made him better but again if kg and him switched teams I think you gotta think if you put Tim on that Celtics team and kg on that kawhi team and go from there Tim more of a scorer and kg defense is crazy so it's a hard pick I'm still not sure I actually like webber switch them with him and what you got?
They all played the 4 and 5. Except Shaq, he just played the 5.
@SSSMOR Duncan was a actually a system player with Elite Role Players you can't change history
@@darnellwilliams8783 They only way that statement makes sense is if Tim Duncan was the "system"...
The fact that Nick didn't even know that Duncan was the #1 pick tells you all u need to know about his basketball takes.
I honestly don't know why You guys even bring Nick Young on. He isn't a very good public speaker, he never stays on topic, he is incapable of defending his own position, and you can barely understand what he says. It's like listening to an auto tuned trap rapper with dyslexia read sports article written by Kendrick Perkins.
The weed, alcohol, other drugs, and sheer stupidity, all in his system, makes him the perfect chaotic guest.
Cause he’s a homie who knows enough about basketball. This isn’t First Take so every guest or co-host doesn’t need to act like they know everything about everything it’s fine to just have a chill person present 14:18
That 2003 Spurs championship was a carry job by Timmy D. Do you think KG could have carried that '03 team?
I don’t have any beef with this opinion. We all debated it at some point.
Question, with the game on the line in the 4th quarter who do you trust more with the basketball in their hands Tim Duncan or KG?
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m Depends on the scenario. If a designed post play is run probably Timmy, but clock running down ball gets passed to him 18 feet from the bucket with 5 seconds left and has to get his own shot? I’m taking Ticket.
Timmy literally carried 2003 spurs. What makes u think he cant do it with the wolves?
I've said this before in a few FB NBA groups in regards to KG vs. Duncan. If you are drafted and you have; David Robinson, Sean Elliott, Mario Ellie, Kevin Willis, Malik Rose, Avery Johnson, Vinny del Negro, Antonio Daniels, Steve Kerr, and what was left of Will Purdue, you better get that to the finish line with a 🏆!
You realize the Spurs had the worst record and won the lottery to pick Duncan .. Robinsons back was done at that point .. Duncan did not miss the playoffs in his career even when those players left and retired .. KG didn’t make his teammates better .. Duncan got new teammates and still won’t titles .. he didn’t have to leave to find one
@@johnnytijerina4122Gil’s Arena is looking at it 1vs1 when basketball is a team sport. No wonder none of them accomplished anything in the league.
This is crazy I don't even think KG agrees with this
If you put KG in that "system" it's going to be a all different "system"
Offense and defense was ran thru Tim
Idk if KG want that responsible
KG was just louder and more annoying
No more flashy, more imposing to an opponent, pops off screen . Although I believe Tim is better u sound like a hater
And kg can guard 1-5
And more skilled.
@@wordonthestreetpodcast5472Theres a literal famous picture of KG and Tim and KG is yelling in his ear. Lmao this isn’t up for debate
@@GH-cd6oqcasual KG was a better defender scorer rebounder and passed than Timothy Duncan who was a system player With Elite Role Players
I agree with Nick, I always said this same thing. If you look at both KG & Duncan’s prime stats, they were similar. Great post scorers, great post defenders, grab boards and highly efficient. You switch them 2 and Spurs still win a championship.
If you put Tim Duncan on Minnesota Timberwolves he'll have 10,000 more points if you put kg on San Antonio he wouldn't be KG because that's popovich's team
Tim Duncan came into the NBA as that guy. He was a legit sure fire thing if u ever seen one. Duncan made all nba 1st team as a rookie. Defensive second team as a rookie. He came in 5th for DPOTY as a rookie. People forget because he played so damn long time.
Don’t forget Kobe averaged 29.8 PPG against Gilbert Arenas
To me it’s not even close of an argument. Duncan is night and day better than KG.
Duncan is clearly better, I don't even get the argument. The spurs were the spurs because of Duncan. You can give credit to KG without taking shine away from Duncan.
KG had to deal with bad front office forever. That's a fact. It doesn't mean he'd have 5 rings if he were in Tim Duncan's place.
Garnett should be compared to Dirk. Duncan is far and away the best at his position ever
Yall just young. Duncan vs Kg was a legitmate convo during the early 2000...
@@lilromy3028and Duncan won that resoundingly. Duncan had 21-20-10-8 in a finals game.
@@sixthorderwhat happened to Duncan in the Olympics? Yeah his team was destroy by his Hof teammate
So if Timmy made the Spurs so good why does Parker have a finals MVP over him?? Saying the team was good cause of Timmy would imply Timmy won every finals MVP when we know he didn’t win them all
Kg is better to me too
You tweaking
Rage bait used to be believable
U dumb as hell
Duncan all day
Yea he is Kg is more athletic and aggressive but Duncan got more patience
I'm from MN and went to many MN vs Spurs games and Tim always cooked KG. I absolutely love KG, but Duncan was much better and could FINISH games, which KG always had a hard time doing!!!
The Tim Duncan disrespect is crazy. He was the system stop saying it was the team giving Pop all the credit when Pop wouldn’t be shot without Tim
Duncan made pop
He had Sprewell
Tim did 4 years of college vs KG coming straight out of high school .... Tim came in a polished player already & KG was raw straight out of high school
Playoff time I'm going Tim
Ive seen him share the court with Shaq/kobe and be the best player in the series
If Duncan went to the Celtics with pierce and Ray Allen they would have 3 peated
Ahhm not so fast there.
The second year kg missed the playoffs. Last year Celtics lost in seven in the finals to the Lakers when perk was out and they got outrebounded by 24 put some context to what you're saying.
Salute to K-Mart tru OG on 6:32 the podcast "Knowledgeable" & " Laid back " Straight to the Mfin point
Tim always made the huge correct plays, KG did not. Tim was like a great quarterback he made the right plays in crunch more often than most aspecially over kg when he got the ball from tony parker up at the high post
The main difference is that Tim Duncan was better as the go to guy when it mattered most. KG was more of a secondary player in those moments. KG was more AD and TD was more Barkley.
They gotta dead this "roll the ball out" phrase. People keep trying to have these stupid conversations on one guy who career don't match another possibly being a better player. Shit is not a talent show. What did these guys do with their talents? That's how you evaluate who is better than who. Duncan and KG not even a conversation.
Thank you. If they believe basketball is down to a 1v1 contest start a league doing that. Because in the NBA, where it’s 5v5, Duncan impacted far more than KG
Tim is top 10 all time. KG is not.
Tim Duncan came in and had David Robinson, and all star to show you the ropes. That’s a head start….KG did not have that privilege. Tim is great but put on Minnesota back then…..he would not have been good as KG. I just don’t think he would be as motivated without Poppovich.
You know in day 1 of practice Duncan beat Robinson so badly they had to blackout the windows so fans and media couldn’t see? Robinson walked into Pop’s office and said it’s his team now
He didn’t need Robinson to show him anything. Man was the universal number 1 pick in 95, 96 and 97. He wasn’t a 20th pick who tools years to develop
Maannn I’ll give KG 2-3 rings w the spurs fuck no not 5😂 Duncan was different
Kevin Garnet is better than Duncan.
Better ball handler
Better Athlete (more agile & Explosive)
More versatile on both ends of the floor.
Versatility and impact are two different things.
I assume you think Marc Gasol is better than Shaq, right?
@@hardwoodthought1213 Shaq is by far a better Athlete and Versatile than Marc Gasol.
So try again 😂
@@mentalgame5608 What? LMFAO
Marc Gasol was a better 3 point shooter, mid range shooter, FT shooter, high post and mid post player, pick and roll player, passer, ball handler on offence. Shaq was a better low post scorer, better around the rim and better offensive rebounder.
Gasol did WAAAY more than Shaq, so why isn’t he better than Shaq?
@@hardwoodthought1213 1. You don’t understand the definition of versatility 2. You must’ve not watched Shaq from ‘92-98’
3. Marc gasol is a plodder and has bricks for feet. He isn’t moving as fast nor is he as explosive as Shaq.
@@mentalgame5608 Yes I do, and I just demonstrated it to you by showing that Gasol had far more of an arsenal than Shaq, hence he is more versatile.
Okay, and Duncan is far more physical than KG, stronger, which KG couldn’t stop. It’s not like KG is an LBJ type athlete
Dominance trumps versatility and Duncan simply was the best interior defender and scorer of his time. I don’t care that KG can switch onto a guard or shoot a 20 footer because those things don’t impact like what Duncan did better hence why Duncan produced at a far better level come playoff time
KG did get the wolves out the first round but they ran into those Lakers. The year the wolves had sprewell, Sam Castell etc etc that was KG best team to get to the champion. I feel Kenyan means Tim Duncan would make Minnesota a more consistent playoff team, maybe? IMO thoughts?
Dumb things like what swaggy p said makes me wonder what did he say to Russel that made Russel snitch on swaggy to Iggy