Don’t Install This EV Charger, Government Warns Electricians
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- Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
- The Government warns electricians NOT to install a popular WallBox EV charger - because it could be used it to bring down the national grid…
…the ECA pushes for big changes to payment terms…
…and two fatalities in the UK this week underline the importance of electrical safety…
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00:00 Electrical News Weekly 04th March 2024
00:44 Govt warns electricians not to install popular Ev Charger
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- what precisely was the fault that caused fatalities?
If the grid can be bought down by a charger that says more about our grid security than the product and if it was that dangerous how is even on sale in the first place? How does the charger even access the grids network in the first place?
I think, and I'm guessing here, that the government has mandated there there has to be some firmware between the chargers software and the microcontroller that signals the car to start charging, this firmware inserts a randomised delay of about 10 minutes, with the intention of making it impossible for a hacker to make a lot of cars start charging at the very same moment which would be a big issue for the grid.
You'd be surprised and alarmed if you knew just how bad some of the stuff out there really is. Genuinely at the level of having a locked front door, but no walls. Nice web management page in the device that prompts for a password but the underlying API by which you send commands and receive responses is not only completely open access it's not even encrypted by any method, not even https.
@@retrozmachine1189 yeah as always its a shame the government didn't build a centralised platform, instead we have 500 small companies having a go at implementing platforms with all sorts of challenges, duplicated efforts and endless APIs trying to glue systems together. As soon as they go bust their tax-payer funded equipment looses some or all functionality.
From a grid security perspective as long as the command time delay/randomiser remains intact it doesn't really matter though.
@@edc1569 Relying on and trusting manufacturers to implement that properly without a robust test/approval process before they can be sold as well as having an infrastructure that could be bought down that easily seems like a VERY bad idea!
@@edc1569 I think this exposes far greater problems with grid stability and capacity. There is only a tiny % of EV's on the road currently, with that set to increase exponentially over the next few years, where is the investment going to come from to shore up the grid! Tot up the total amount of road transport fuel sold in a day, convert that to energy in mW, then go looking for that in the grid...! Spoiler alert: That's a whopping 13.45GWh per day, and ignores the expected additional load ASHP's will be adding; a few charger points being open to on/off abuse is only a very tiny problem....
Equally, and to your point: Lets not encourage government meddling in this, they have a very very poor track record of getting these things right...
Monstrous and conflagration
Side note, the government have said don't install this ev charger because its a cyber risk etc, but then grants an exception to let them be sold still?
I had a DNS amplification attack a few days ago on my system, - I only noticed it because I have a very sophisticated DNS system which I need in order to access my PBX... - I was just doing a routine patrol and saw an unusual IPV6 neighbour that I could not explain, - so I have disabled IPv6 ...my whole rig works just fine on IPv4 only...
I'm impressed someone found your IPv6 at all, unless a common DNS record was pointing at it? My IPv4, semi-permanent, gets more or less a 24 x 7 probing but IPv6, also semi-perm, (LAN and WAN) barely get a peep. I have drop rules in place to discard any attempts from 'non-Australia' IPs which drops 99.99999% of attempts. Seems us Aussies are too busy outside enjoying the sun to bother starting attack scripts, or too stupid. Not sure which ...
@@retrozmachine1189 well, they did not find it exactly, - they were somehow connecting to one of my (IPv4) DNS connections... - I think the problem was caused by publishing my fqdn for my phone system = only all the wrong people see it = I removed the post with it on.... - earlier today, I saw an IPv6 neighbour which I did not recognise...
The news about the Copper SB is EXACTLY why I dont like internet connected chargers; next, the government will force remote disabling of older chargers that dont meet the moving goalposts of internet security.
No government, North Korean, Chinese, or Russian hacker can take down my commando socket.
It could be Campari and Latte on a drinks theme
Another great new weekly Joe 👍
Thanks Sean! 😃
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Ugh, we're not great at turning them round quickly James. Having said that I've just had a load of prizes dropped off so I should be able to get some out next week. 👍
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If I buy a charger with PEN fault and RCD built in can it be fed from a 40A MCB (non RCD side) from main dist board? Meter cupboard is not an option. 6mm twin and earth internally run in plastic trunking? Would that be ok?
Yes that would be fine
Depending on how far the cable run is.....
@@chrisfs150 Run would only be about 10m tops. Technically 3 pin is enough for me. However, I think a proper charger is better long term!
@@usefulrandom1855 yeah you'd be with what you suggested then
_Latte..._ ☕
No, that isn't a guess - I'm trying to describe the poor punctuality of this train, but my autocorrect isn't working. 🚆🕥😋
But talking of trains, I think the *best* EV charging system the UK's ever had were the ones installed by British Rail (And successors) from the 1950s onward. Simple, efficient, continuous fast charging, 25kV at up to 5MW power delivery, and no trip-worthy cables lying around all over the place because they're suspended at sensible heights! 🚄⚡💯👍
I mean, think about it: When was the last time *you* saw a Eurostar depart Paris, fly past Arras, and then have to stop for three hours to top-up a battery? 🇬🇧🚄💨🇫🇷😉👍
#ViveLeTGV 🇬🇾🚄🇫🇷❤🔥💨🤘
Also:...
R: _Batman! The Batmobile won't start!_ 😳
B: _Check the battery._ 🔋
R: _What's a « Tery? »_ 🦇
(Don't worry, I'm _not_ here all week! 😇)
The S in IoT stands for security. Why the fuck does a wallbox need an internet connection for?
Okay so step 1. Buy 1 unit. Step 2. Disassemble it and use the circuitry only to tap randomly. Step 3. Havok
gruesome and monstrous
Nice one Edward, tune in to next week's show to see if you got it right! 😃
Treasure and monstrous?
Ferret n whiskers
Rummage and Combats
Words are Gruesome and Rummage.
Ferret and Latte
"FERRET" and "Boffins" 😉
Now that would be remarkable synergy wouldn't it? 🤔😂
@@efixx You could call it that.. 😂
Love it! 👍
Could it be Whiskers and Skinny?
Whiskers and Latte
Nice guesses. 👍
Thump and ferret
Whiskers and Monstrous
More good guesses Mark! 👍
@@efixx Keeps me busy on a Monday afternoon!!! 😁
thump and monstrous
Whiskers and monsterous
Great guesses, make sure you listen to next week's show to see if you got it! 😃
Thanks Joe but...... More importantly.... So who is
this Efixx character Ray, of whom you speak?
Ray is our tame scriptwriter who writes the news. He's a legend with words. 💪
@@efixx have we seen his ugly mug/ Clooney visage at any point?
Gruesome and conflagration
Nice guesses, see if you're right next week! 😃
Skinny Latte
ferrit wiskers
Monstrous and thump?
whiskers, latte
Boffins & monstrous 🤞🤞🤞
"Gruesome" & "latte"
monstrous, latte
Bull.
Bear. Your turn.
Whiskers and Latte