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Can't believe I didn't realise that we have never met an npc from Natlan...
actually diluc is one of natlanders well not pure but pretty far relative its also stated somewhere that the natlander that venti met few years ago created a family in mondstat and so on until theres diluc
@@MrMage530 Buuuut He does not have any voicelines nor story mentioning natlan.
@@MrMage530thats many generations ago with vennessa, if thats who you’re thinkig of. at this point he pretty much is native to mondstadt. also he might not be descended from vennessa at all. there was a ragnivindr at that time period too, and a red haired knight from the archon war time period with decarabian, which is likely an ancestor of diluc. so theres a chance that the only relation to vennessa he has is the red hair.
Theres some npc’s who have been to natlan (like the bathhouse guy in inazuma) but no npc’s from natlan
Maybe visitors are able to come and go as they please however people from natlan can’t (or maybe natlan people aren’t aloud in other nations)
It also could be a locked nation like inazuma, since we got lisa, kaeya, and amber, lisa is electro because you can’t get electro until inazuma otherwise, snezhnaya is most likely going to be locked down considering its story importance being where the fatui come from, which is why you get kaeya, and amber is pyro, natlan being the nation if pyro where you’d get pyro traveller, but if it was locked people wouldn’t be able to do pyro related puzzles without amber
Or maybe amber could just be because natlan would be coming very late into the game and you need pyro to explore dragonspine and stuff…….
prepair for a wholesome and uplifting archon quest.
The massacre and sacrifice hoyoverse show to their players : BLACK SCREEN WITH TEXT
Well I don’t think so, we’ve seen how dark they went with Fontaine so I think they’ll go even darker for Natlan
@@Vio_Lin.t how dark ? Did they show us ? No ... They are just telling us ..
@@razornad1299 in the very first archon quest, one person gets crushed to death and the other dissolves to death on screen, Lyney and Lynette directly tell us in great detail how they were trafficked and rescued by the knave, in Wriothesley’s story quest we see him literally choke someone, and there’s a lot of mentions of topics like trafficking, murder, SA, and sometimes even suicide, and they showed Focalor’s execution.
Cries in firefly
@@feketeboti3301same here bud
the way people forget that fontaine's building's are based off London and everyone forgets about it and bases it off France only because of it's language
Like wrio is a whole British dude like
poisson
yeah there's some italian inspiration too
true, except most of west europe was styled similar to london at the time
crazy the place based on russia is ALWAYS where the bad guys are from, bet CCP would NOT allow bad guys from liylu.
all i want is to see Bennetts connection to Natlan. Because the theories Ive seen (and made) are just WILD
Perhaps he will finish assembling the Benny’s Adventure Team in Natlan.👍
no one talk about amber. sobs
Monstadt : Venti's bard friend ( The nameless bard ),Timmie's dad, Stanley, etc..
Liyue : 4 Yakshas , the Millelith , etc.
Inazuma : Makoto and friends , teppei , signora, ruu, etc
Sumeru : Rukkhadevata ,Deshret, Nabu Malikata , Dehya's father , that one guy in tighnari's storyquest, etc
Fontaine : Forcalor, Elynas, the Narzissenkreuz's first memebers, Mr,Callas, Melus and Silver, etc
AS IF WE ARE HAvING NOT ENOUGH CHARACTER FOR THE AFTERLIFE BANNER :((
also, not to forget the boat in golden apple archipelago and the kids in ekanomiya :(
Kaveh's dad and Kazuha's friend too
Mitoboru 😢😢😢
You might want to add halfdan in your comment too
In before we witness some poor soul gets a good ol' mayan heart surgery...
Signora isn't from Inazuma tho
Yeah the 5.X story quests definetly will be wholesome and uplifting.
PLZ DON'T SAY THAT!!!
Yeah, the pyro archon will be alive and happy
@@rb.v just like the Hydro archon
Something important to remember - Natlan, translated from Nahuatl (the native language of the Aztecs), roughly means "Land of Glory"
What we will find there, I think that's already hinted at in Genshin, in the eastern regions of Erinnyes. There we find a landscape that resembles a WW1 battlefield after the fighting stopped, and more pyro creatures than you can throw a stick at! Natlan, I think, is a land where war was waged until it ended due to exhaustion, where there were no longer enough people left to fight. A land where the archon is long missing, and where they who kills the king becomes the king rules.
I bet there would be many pyro creatures, since there are already lots of pyro characters. Non-pyro characters would then take priority when fighting over world.
but then why would ppl be going there to visit
Now nuvillette will be the best character for that region
Idk if Natlan is that dangerous. Since most npcs talk abour Natlan like if was a Summer Vacation colony, there is an npc in Meropide that she saya that she wish to go to Natlan spend her vacations, there is a Sumeru noc in Inazuma that says that she had a no problem trip, and the Hotsprings and Watm description seems to be very “Vacation” descriptions. So I guess that the “War” in Natlan seems to be much more as a Olympics tuan everything
Considering cross-culture like London-like architecture in Fontaine
I think there might be a Roman-type colosseum and gladiator matches
It’s based on Central America though
wrong culture lol... its based on Latin America and possibly west Africa
The Überraschung caught me off guard...even as a german
I can’t help but to put it there 🤣
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In the one of the official artworks by hoyoverse, it shows charlotte snapping a few photos of what looks like Mexican decorations. So I’m assuming Mexico is one of the cultural inspirations for natlan (pls correct me if I’m wrong!)
You're not totally wrong, it's supposed to be inspired by American indigenous cultures, so Aztec and Mayan for example.
@@SwieczkaNiweaniewierzeDarek yeah but like, mexico's current culture is still heavily influenced by its mayan and aztec predecesors
I believe that Xbalanque is the pyro dragon sovereign, I could be wrong but I believe Nuevillette has a voice line about him
Doubt
It’s the other way around. In the tweet that revealed Neuvillette’s character card, there was a quote from Xbalanque speaking of Neuvillette and the other dragons. Xbalanque referred to dragons as “they,” meaning Xbalanque themself is not a dragon
Actually, Neuvillette has no voiceline about him nor any possible dragon sovereigns
I keep pronouncing it as x-balanque like a twitch streamer's name lmao
just like hoyoverse sacrificed genshin players and community, Natlan will be full of sacrifices
And penacony has it all like, "be prepared, Genshin... Bloodshed has started... And you will soon"
*plays If I Can Stop One Heart From Breaking
I think that will only happen once we reach Snezhnaya,
@@supernieva2419 out in the middle of a war like it's Ukraine
What if every cycle is named after whatever was destroyed most recently. And the destruction of a nation ends and starts a new Samsara. This would mean that natlan was destroyed at some point in time, possibly during the war between the primordial one and dragons. We know that Natlantean was the 2nd samsara cycle, which would mean if this theory is true it was destroyed right before the cycle started.
I'm almost sure that Natlan will be Aztec, African and with a hint of Brazil and Mexico
to complete the cultural diversity of the various tribes
That's why War is going down in Natlan. You have different tribes going at it.
I really hope that’s what they’re planning to do. I’m gonna be really disappointed if they relegate all of the West African stuff to the culture cultivated by the slaves owned by the Spanish Empire.
@@theillustriouscosmowitch617 So I have bad news for you...
However, this may be corrected as Natlan will only be released in 6 months
Mihoyo has time to realize their mistake, hopefully
@@Keiki-kun What do you mean? Was there a leak stating that the African aspects of Natlan would be significantly overshadowed by the Spanish and the Mesoamerican aspects?
@@theillustriouscosmowitch617 apparently in one of pyro archon concept arts
She's wearing a red Spanish suit 💀😭
She has a carnival mask with pearls and feathers on her head but that doesn't save the design
It's going to be almost one full year since Fontaine was released 😢
There was an official Itto art where he was hitting a Pinata. Also there were NPC in clothes from Mexico and Peru and the location looked like that too.
Natlan can be destroyed or something, but the important thing is whether the pyro archon is a Himeko expy or not
I hope himeko will be the pyro atchon.
@@rockmsp_art and have a tall mommy model surely
a she has the name Murata too i think we all know where this is going.
@@feketeboti3301 yessss
@@feketeboti3301 do not
it's actually pronounced ishbalanque. Also, if you check the battle pass claymore, it's based in an aztec weapon, the macuahuitl and the lore talks about a person named "tenoch" which is an aztec name and it also mentions a few african names. So it seems it's based in mesoamerican culture as well as african culture.
I feel like this will have something to do about the Spanish conquest of the Aztec Empire…
OH NO.
SNEZHNAYA IS TAKING OVER NATLAN, RUN!!
@@Xochi_Mictlan69 I know
NO ONE EXPECTS THE NATLAN INQUISITION!!!
getting a help gaza ad while watching a nation of war's lore is crazy
There is also a bunch of African names mentioned in the talking stick lore description. As well as Iansan from the travail trailer being based on an Orisha (Yoruba Pantheon dieties)
Genshin usually likes to put a different culture to help expand the religious and mythological aspect of each nation (except Liyue and Inazuma).
Only remember 3 intertwined fate
Your genuinely so smart to find out the book on the dev’s desk
Somehow the more hints I see in Natlan the more it makes me think its gonna like the anime Rokka no Yuusha considering its heavily inspired on Meso-American culture too not to mention the main character there resembles Diluc
Since they are basing Natlan after MesoAmerica, it makes sense it’s isolated and mysterious, because the new world was isolated and separated from the rest of the world up until 600 years ago.
I knew that moment we knew about Fontaine. Nice things have been getting less and less. This time we didn't even meet the Archon. And Fontaine might be the last destination where we have enjoyed the time. If the story does not get more dark from here it will only be an issue. Sumeru was supposed to be dark but the Act was so long and the Archon was now a almost a little child, it showed the dark things in a good way. Though we got to know about a lot of bad things we never felt disturbed like we do with Dain or long Abyss quests.
0:19 THE HONKAI FOURTH ANNIVERSARY IMAGE JUST REMINDED ME OUR LIKE 6th OR 5th ONE IS COMING UP IN MARCH HONKAI IMPACT 3rd PLAYERS!!
And I'm all in for it.
Edit: I feel like even though the Pyro Archon seems like the odd one out among the Archons for having such a morally ambiquous/controversial ideal such as War, it might suprise some people that if you search up a list of deities and gods who are in some shape or form heavily associated with war and it's associations, there are plenty of them like on one hand you have Aries the god of war and Athena who's one of many association is war particularly warfare and battle-strategy and Norse Mythology's Odin too is a war god next to Wisdom which he sacrificed one of his own eyes for, so the Pyro Archon at first glance might seem like the god easiest to pedict on who they are as a god and person but we all know Hoyoverse loves using twists and irony.
We already know that one of the samsara cycles was called "natlantean" and it was supposedly a time when humans overcame dragons (fontainian world quest lore), it was before the remurian cycle and before the current kraun-arya cycle our current characters are in. These are of course only beliefs of the ordo. but since we have nothing else to go on lore wise we'll have to believe that their research is closest to the truth.
When neuvillette talks about endless war it's possible that combatants in natlan are ALL being resurrected, that way you WOULD have an endless war, normally the deaths of combatants (attrition) will always result in a win for one side or a stalemate when all have lost too many to fight.
Natlano combatants resurrecting??? What are they, the tarnished???
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 Who knows just another tinfoil theory Maybe :)
@@Necrochaosium Well, considering one of Natlan's archon quests is going to be named "Incandescent Ode to Resurrection" per the Travail trailer... Who knows, it might not be too far off.
It might be that they are not just revived, but reset, even if they survive each cycle. It would be a reason to never leave Natlan - they could have been just teleported back there on the new cycle.
@@Gnidel It'd be a strong reason to not visit, if near everyone was a aggressive war monger that existed just for "board position" and didnt have any regard for their own or others lives it would be a nightmare of sorts for outsiders
I hope the story is more dark and brutal in natlan. I feel like this games story just isn’t dark enough for me.
Well, not everything needs to be overly dark and edgy, part of what makes genshin cool is it's calming and happy, and we got lots of dark stuff too tho, like damn, dottore is messed up
Here me out but what if the pyro archon and pyro dragon are siblings and the og pyro archon created both of them which is why natlan is a nation of dragons because there archon and dragon are on good terms but most recently could be on bad terms for some unknown reason
I really don't know how are they gonna beat fontaine in terms of storytelling. And the archon, I'm worried about that as well
In the game Smite, xbalanque has something to do with moon. Maybe thats why liben said something about sun. Maybe natlan is not seeing the sun for some reason
I'm Mexican and I know a bit about native mythology, this is a Mexica (Aztec) thing and not mayan, but, there's a fact that can complement what you're saying
In Mexica mythology, there's a cycle where a sun is created; there's a myth about the 5th sun, where a god called Nanahuatzin emerged as this sun, emerging once the Aztec people went from Aztlan to their promised land, Tenochtitlan
If we get the info you're giving to us, maybe, for some reason Natlan is about to change their sun cycle and for now they're not seeing the Teyvat sun, or something is blocking the sun, as an eternal eclipse, there's many ways they can do the plot, as the chapter is named "Ode of the Resurrection", what they want to resurrect? Maybe the sun itself
@@GrowlKat If you think of the sun as the region's archon, maybe that's who they want to resurrect, since she's missing right now. It's very simplistic but hey, if the shoe fits.
It's because Natalan will be like King's Landing after Daenerys' visit 😛
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The Natlan incident
Alright, more colored characters than just yknow... a Dehya
Classic move from the book of anime skipping the continent below the Middle East and the left of India and moving on to Latin America😢.
Can’t believe this vid didn’t mention talking stick lore lol
Sumeru and Fontaine are based off multiple cultures they just have a simplified appearance. Sumeru is mostly based on Persia and Iran but has clear Egyptian and Indian factors, Fontaine is mostly centered on France but clearly has major influence and factors from English and Italian culture.
I guess GOUBA is the real pyro archon
I wish the Nathan archon was a buff warlord typa beast of an archon, since it’s yah know war region and fire region and they give that vibe.
For the NPCS isn't there one in inazuma that sells stones or stuff like that?
Kinda crazy that he didn't mention the Talking stick, since it gives us so much info. Even just the name helps, as according to Wikipedia: 'A talking stick, also called a speaker's staff,[1] is an instrument of Indigenous democracy used by a number of Indigenous communities, especially those in the Pacific Northwest nations of North America. The talking stick may be passed around a group, as multiple people speak in turn, or used only by leaders as a symbol of their authority and right to speak in public. Akan chiefs in Western Africa have a tradition of speaker's staffs capped with gold-leafed finials. These emerged in the 19th century as a symbol of the holder's power.'
So we've already got evidence for inspiration from Native America and West Africa, but then the Talking stick just goes ahead and proves its based on Africa, as the characters mentioned have African names and are accompanied by African cryptids. It also tells us about the Six tribes of Natlan, and how they united to fight the 'black tide'. There's also a guy in Fontaine who talks about his girlfriend from Natlan and how he's worried about fitting in there. He also talks about the various tribes.
The guy in Fontaine disproves two theories about the lack of NPCs from Natlan:
- People can leave (he clearly met his girlfriend outside of Natlan
- People aren't disgraced if they leave (he's clearly going to visit)
Personally I think the 'endless ring of war' is over the gnosis. Think Raya and the Last Dragon, where one tribe has the ancient powerful artifact and everyone's fighting over it. I also don't think that Natlan is dangerous since a lot of characters describe it as kind of a vacation spot, although it could be that certain areas (or tribes) are more dangerous than others.
He also didn't mention Neuvi talking about people living with dragons. Personally, I think the Rooster, Klee, and Iansan are all descendants of dragons. My thought process is kind of weird and would take a while to explain, but it would explain the Rooster's name. It's either: He hatched from an egg, or He, like a chicken, is a descendant of a much larger and more powerful reptilian species (the Rooster is to dragons what chickens are to dinosaurs). This also explains why Iansan has white hair instead of red. Also, coincidentally, all of these characters are short, and while for Klee it's probably just because she's a child, maybe that's a trait they share. (Also, side note, I don't think Nahida is one, since she's more likely to be a dryad, and also she literally can't be descended from dragons since she was made out of Irminsul, though I don't think Rukkedevata is one either).
The world of Teyvat isn't nice, it's filled constant danger from criminals, monsters, gods, terrorists, and the treat of a giant orbital nail smacking down on you.
What makes you think the literal hell hole filled with constant war that is Natlan will be any better?
I knew this YoutTuber could be trusted when I saw the OSP citation. :D
The name may be based in náhuatl, but as far as we know: we won’t be able to discern which culture it is based off at all because it’s going to be a mix of AFRICA and AMERICA (and yes, I mean the continent). In the best of cases we will know which CONTINENT a certain character it’s based off
they have the opportunity to make this the edgiest (?) region. That said, until more information is released, I still kinda don't care about Natlan but that will probably change anyways lol
the talking stick is probably the biggest clue no ?
Liben was just advertising Star Rail.
What is the music at 3:50?
Everyone's concerned about natlan... I am concerned about when will we get the rest of the hydroculus and last fontaine map 😂
Eesh-balán-ké, I think (I'm from central Mexico, my pronunciation of Maya could be all messed up but this is more or less how it was transliterated into Spanish).
Sumeru is based on INDIA( hindu )culture and Egypt
bro... literally latam (latinoamerica) = Natlan is ez af
It will be based on entire American continents from the Book of Mormons to Aztec and Inca
Psst, Talking Stick item lore (From 4.0 I think?) namedrops a ton of mythic figures, go check it. :P
Still, good to know about some possible Aztec mythological/historical things that might be used.
please dont tell me the pyro archon is a kid
The primordial one is from honkai impact then? That annoying primordial one... When is he going to show up? Why isn't he doing anything? The hydro sovereign has his power back! Is the primordial one asleep or sealed somewhere? I want some Celestia lore.
I am slowly starting to believe Natlan is Hoyoverse version of Morrowind.
Natlan might be considered a "nation", but (knowing Hoyo and them taking heavy influence from history) since we know from Neuavillete that it's at endless wars, Natlan in reality is a nation made of smaller states at war with eachother which was the case for Meso-America and the Aztecs and their neighbors.
Historically, the Aztecs were the rulers of that land, but they assimilated many smaller states and tribes through warfare. Infact, they were actually hated by their neighbors that they assimilated which helped lead to the downfall of their civilization when the haters joined the Spanish.
The Natlan's could be struggling from some sort of famine or economic factor that is leading to war. War is almost always about resources and geo-politics.
No natlan isn't mysterious khaenri'ah yes Celestia yes bc it's above and nothing more than the nails on teyvat.
I can sacrifice Himeko (Murata) in genshin just give us Firefly back.
7:05 you know what deities are very very very important in a wild range of native latin American religions?
The Sun.
brazilian here, and i knew natlan was going to be latam from the very start, it just screams latam- iansan's name is a bit questionable, seen as iansan is the name of a real goddess (its like naming a character jesus christ...i feel lowkey offended tbh as a follower of the religion), the whole warrior culture is very familiar (asides from the aztec, incan and mayan wars, old brazilian tribes also went through endless war and had a custom called poru, eating the flesh of dead enemy warriors to absorb their strength)...seen as iansan is originally yoruba, we might have another lazy mix of cultures with latam and west africa this time :/ hope they at least try to include more colored characters in the update.
watch the genshin community burn over 0.1pixels of white color
i really felt offended when hoyoverse mixed arabic/persian/indian cultures in sumeru.
São países vizinhos
At least you get represented positively at all at any given time.
I swear, if they mix Poland with Russia in Shnezhnaya...
@@Gnidel or ukrukraine with russia
People when they don't realize they are multicultural countries
People thinking tartaglia is Russian is the funniest thing alive(he's greek)
Only thing i know Is that i can finally go full solo hydro! My favorite character in One team.
how much more mihoyo want many scapegoat there how many people are have to involved with every story quest and so how many times travelers have to seeing a disasters and sadness more than enough even khaer'ah been destroy by celestia there
they show 20% of natlan for now
bro not another kid archon again ffss
dont woory they arent the archon its another future playable character when natlan releases
😎 Pyro will rise for sure
Barney jumpscare
Remember zombie family introduced in baizhu's quest? You can read note on their front door they're on vacation in natlan. Dangerous? Natlan is as much of nation of war as Fontaine is nation of Justice. Such a bull lie hoyo!
maybe theyre deliberately making natlan seem that way to set up some plot twists or something 🤷♀️
1:22 can somone plis tell what is this song i love it 😭
I thought everyone agreed Natlan was going to be based on South America
I call it, Natlan will be the Ghetto of teyvat
natlan boxing art? alright Dehya is from natlan then!
jk i just want dehya buff
I think Natlan will be similar to Turkish culture.
Jaguars!!!
I thing sumeru is India and fonteins is old franch
If Shneznaya were accurate to irl Russia, they would wear cheap sportswear, drink vodka and they would try to rush B.
I wonder if they'll make Shneznaya less Russian considering the current global situation. Going full on tsar empire could be controversial.
@@SwieczkaNiweaniewierzeDarek just remember Genshin is a Chinese game anyways
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 So? Are they complacent with Russia's actions?
@@SwieczkaNiweaniewierzeDarek if they do, prepare to side with Taiwan
If they don't give a shit, don't give a shit
Can we just be real for a moment?
If they actually depicted Shneznaya as a a war-torn, socioeconomically regressive winter wasteland, not a lot of people would actually care. The country’s kinda always been like that from its conception and whitewashing that even a little bit to meet the game’s current age rating would result in a dramatically different culture.
I can’t wait to see how whitewashed the characters will be ☹️
we already it was gonna be latin wth
The copium is insane ☠️
why did you say martial art like thatt
Hoyoverse already massacre the Genshin community and sacrifice to Increase profit for Honkai Star Rail.
"Please don't mentioned the 4.4 Live stream"
Natlan is Aztecs and African Region (White skinned again, it's Chinese games)
Natlan is American
it won't be
I hope natlan doesn't turn like inazuma
In what sense?
@@joesunday199 I mean like how everyone hate Inazuma cuz of thunderstorm, the purple water and the archon that try to kill you I hope that natlan dont have things like volcano or lava since it's a pyro region
@@nurrain1904 You hope that is doesn't have Volcanos and lava? That might be some of the things that could make Natlan the most interesting.
@@joesunday199 I mean in a way that could kill us instantly
@@nurrain1904 I doubt they'd do that.
Hii can i get a hi
Hiiiiiiii 🥳
White African characters 👍
old news
Lmao hii
Thank god its not USA.
A country that's only what, not even 250 years old? Lol
Bro shut up you’re talking as if it has to be the exact same as real life. This is a game things are obviously different
uoooahhhh finally some lolis!!!!!!!!!!!
go outside.
fantastic i can finally see real drama blood sheed
and shitty salty tears of players lmao