Cryo Archon "Tsaritsa" Identity Was Leaked! She's Not Evil - Genshin Impact 4.5 Lore & Theory
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Cryo Archon "Tsaritsa" Idenity Was Already Leaked! She's Not Evil - Genshin Impact 4.5 Lore & Theory
The leader of the fatui harbingers is not evil and her true identity has already been leaked!
She was leaked in the game files so they definitely intended to use her at one time but besides her name being in genshins files, her Russian name, her design and colour fitting it and the fact they hoyo is known to reuse characters do you think its still Bronya or did they change their mind?
she better be bronya
It's either Bronya or Ana one or the other. It's the only thing that makes sense, just as Himeko is probably the Pyro Archon or related to them in some way.
@@ATHOS_of_INDEX which is the earth, the heart, the eather, the ather - chrion last - pulled from some his videos.
TGC: "Well, the cryo archon's identity has been revealed for quite some time now"
me: "Bronya onee-chan"
TGC: "Well, it's Bronya"
"I WAS JOKI-"
The way each game kinda plays on each other is wild. They’ve put so much effort into their games, you can’t help but greatly appreciate it
Thats why i always get annoyed when fans complain about something, which at the end of the day dosent diminish the effort Hoyo has put into in my opinion one of the most fun games ive had since Monster Hunter World. And it technically for free
B-BuT oNlY tHrEe PuLlS fOr AnNiVeRsArY!1!! They made us actually play the game for the other pulls!! Waaah!!
It's hard to appreciate the game when it doesn't get the treatment that Star Rail does... it's insane and people are pissed about it 😤
@@zerogear6049I totally understand everyone that's pissed about it. But for me, it's hard to NOT appreciate the game with the genuinely amazing content we get, just because they don't throw as much free sh*t our ways and are admittedly very slow (yet not stagnant) with QoL updates.
@awakenedcrowl I don't care much about the free stuff. I just want better quality changes 😩especially a resen overflow system like the one in Star Rail... you can even choose the main stat of your artifacts but you need a special item to do it
Honestly, the real evil is Celestia
they are not evil, they are the creators they don't have a sense of good and evil.
they just made rules to follow for the long existence of Teyvat and those who break the rules are threats to be eliminated.
@@sagi5826 He rules with arrogance and the unknown god is arrogant just like he thinks himself superior
because they are superiors.. they are their creators. they are immortal gods and they are just mortals.
it's like saying in reality that humans are equal to god. it's ridiculous. @@tsunamisoulburn7237
Zhongli said it : Gods are only either good or bad in the narratives of humans, in reality, no God is purely good nor Bad, and it applies to Celestia as well.
@@sagi5826 So what? All evil deeds are forgiven just because they are supreme beings? Something like - if i am strong, i can do whatever i want?
The fact that Bronya is an archon was kinda given, but I like to think that maby she was previous archon, and now her mother that lost her child took over that role, so I have a theory that the archon is now Cocolia, who’s heartbroken at the loss of Bronya
OMG I like this theory ? Remember Ventis line to La Signora about her Master ? Yeah it would make sense
Unlikely since the game already confirmed in beta that the archon was bronya
@@isaiahhaley4816 That was the Beta. They've changed things since then. We do not know if this is still in their plans. We do not know anything for certain in regards to the Tsaritsa's identity.
@@user-biscut hoyo already came up with its story before the game ever even was released plus in the beta venti refers to the hydro archon as folcalore and every other main character in hi3 is in genshin as exps so it would be fitting if brings was one too
@@isaiahhaley4816 What I believe is the past/current cryo Archon both have a chance of being Bronya or Cocolia.
If Bronya is Tsaritsa does that mean Seele is dead in GI. Because, the goddess of love doesn't love anymore
You know what would be fucked up? If Cocolia is alive but Bronya's dead.
Oh I like this twist lmao also I remember Venti commenting on La Signora face... something along the line of her taking that face/smurk from her Master... and ngl La Signora looks alot like Cocolia
@@SacrationI loved that like too but its purely just an english translation thing
That's more symbolic than about the looks. What Venti meant is that Signora's smirk and enjoyment of making him hurt is something the Tsaritsa wanted kind of dissing Signora that she has no mind or personality of her own
I'd guess seele in genshin is furina and arlechinno since they are kinda opposites or something like that seele and velonia🤷
cocolia is la signora peopleeeeeeeeeeee lord.
One of my latest "crack" theories is this:
All of Hoyoverse's games are based around simulation theory. The games themselves serve as yet another set of samsara cycles. This *is* their multiverse. They're all essentially the same story, the same characters, the same games, but with the slightest of differences between them.
However, this doesn't mean a character can't be good in one universe, but evil in another. The characters themselves don't matter as much. The role they serve is what's important and is what generally remains largely unchanged. You could switch the roles of say, Dvalin and Andrius, the dialogue would change, but they would both play their new parts. Sort of like a game of musical chairs, but with actors of a play moving around with each chair being marked by a character role of the game. Maybe another Neuvillette is replaced by Cyno and we have a hydro dragon sovereign making dad jokes.
It also sort of ties into the time travel theory of trying to change fixed points. Time/fate just twists whatever you changed to redirect the navigation back to the fixed point. You try taking backroads instead of a highway and inexplicably, there's just enough road closures or blockages from fallen trees and sinkholes to force you back on that highway.
Well it was always the Bronyaverse. The only one missing was Genshin's Bronya. Seele is also missing but not all Bronya has a Seele (Bronie and Silver Wolf doesn't have a Seele).
Isn’t Furina/Focalors a Seele expy?
@@ArtisticNebula Colors on her design say, obviously not.
@@ArtisticNebula If Seele shows up, she will be Abyssal. Her powers should tell you that alone? Lol??? I stg the genshin fandom is sharing 4 braincells while the theorists are carrying yall hard.
Also, about the end of the video, if the Tsaritsa is indeed based on Bronya, u mentioned a possible "romantic relationship with pierro", I dont think that makes any sense since Bronya so far in every game favors one character- Seele, which I think might be the reason she is heartbroken, maybe she died in the cataclysm. Even with censorship Hoyoverse shows it multiple times across both honkai star rail and honkai impact 3rd. Im sure you mustve seen the kiss between Bronya and Seele, too, which is canon. A romantic relationship with a man seems reaaaaaaally unlikely.
Ive been thinking this too
That's cope
@@basedkaiser5352you’re the only one who’s coping lmao, Seele x bronya was confirmed a long time ago in all the Honkai impact games.
Exactly why i don't think the archon is gonna be bronya otherwise it would be WILD of hoyo 🍿
@@basedkaiser5352Idc abt them neither abt the ship but they ARE canon lmao
The idea of Broyna being tied with the Cryo Archon actually makes Venti’s line about Signora’s face more interesting. Venti asked if she stole her face from her master, that could possibly mean the previous Cryo Archon. Signora shares some resemblance to Cocolia, which would only give us more of a Broyna Cocolia dynamic for the current and previous Cryo Archon. I’m really excited to watch how this will all unfold
i still wish that Ana Shariac (Herrscher of Ice / Rimestar) will be the one for the cryo archon since, her tragic story in Hi3 fits enough for her to be put as the same tragic cryo archon. She's kinda forgotten now tbh
The archons are based on the elemental herrschers of the current era, proven by how Venti is Wendy (herrscher of wind), and Ei is Mei (herrscher of thunder), but the pyro archon isn’t Himiko bc she isn’t the herrscher of flames in the current era. So it’s safe to assume that the cryo archon won’t be bronya since she is the herrscher of reason/ truth, and not the herrscher of ice.
@@jood.qBroyna is the poster girl, of HI3 unlike ana she beloved, isnt about elemental is more like where broyna is the herrscher that sided with humanity, The tsartsia is the archon who sided with humanity’s freedom from celestia and fate.
Actually she sounds like she fits celestia
@@1swagevilregalallen479 but windy didn’t side with humanity in HI3, yet venti’s design is inspired by her. It’s also worth mentioning that dainsleif described the cryo archon as “a god with no love left in her for her people, nor do they have any left for her” so it’s fair to assume that she isn’t beloved.
I think bronya would appear in genshin, but not as the cryo archon. Maybe as a moon sister or a shade?
she is doing everything for love, a harsh type of love
I think her and señora, have similar stories which is why Señora was her favorite 🤷🏽♂️maybe she lost someone and now she has no love left and maybe it’s celestias fault
yo I actually remember those leaks great video btw look forward to hear about the Jester
its an old leak
Yeaaaaaaaahhhh, BUUUUUUUT...
Cocolia "loved" her "children" in Honkai Impact and she turned them into killing machines.
In fact, Bronya's early arc in that game is recognizing how manipulative and possessive Cocolia is and breaking away from her.
I'm just saying that love can be twisted into something horrible. Dainslef says of the Tsaritsa and Snezhnaya: "She is a god with no love left for her people, nor do they have any left for her. Her followers only hope to be on her side when the day of her rebellion against the divine comes at last."
Bronyas character design in other universes screams Russian noble. Pale skin and long straight silver/white hair. Also, the fact that Venti did not seem to resist having his gnosis taken might signify that they have a better relation than what is being led on. In fact, all but Fucoalore have giving up their gnosis quite easily, even though they went to war for it.
Better relation? No lol. Venti is tired of the worlds order.
If we’ll get Bronya as Tsaritsa then we need Seelie as the lover
If this is the case, Bronya/Tsaritsa will be one of the Moon Sisters who fell in love with a “seelie”
it would be crazy if that were the case. In my personal interpretation the moon sisters and seelie story is a metaphor for other positions. Also its actually the seelie and the traveller from afar i think
Layla is already Seele though. Idk why people don't think so, but Layla's look is almost the exact same as Magic Girl Seele. She also has dual personalities with one being very strong and hyper competent, with the other being a gentler, unconfident but hard worker.
No!!!!! I want Genshin Bronya to have a male lover aka the 3rd descender
This would make sooooo much sense
@@elizabethsolorio9837 no one asked
as a veteran GGZ/Hi3rd player, i can confirm that yes bronya will be the cryo archon for genshin, although her name may not be as direct.
also i agree that cryo archon was never depicted as evil or the bad guy in most written sections i found.
i saw a video title and thumbnail few weeks back about why the harbingers are collecting the gnosis, and theories about reviving the third descender.
although i didn't look at the video myself but i do belive your perspective about "bronya's" heart, kinda fits that theory of "reviving" and i believe its not just any descender.. its the "Kiana" of genshin.
at first i thought it could be "seele" but in every buble universe, of hoyogames, seele was never far apart from bronya and usually are around each other one way or another. i mean.. seele usually is the second in command for bronya too. so the second in command in the fatui, harbingers of the tsaritsa, should be seele.. ( if im not mistaken, the dev teased her already the fatui trailer)
but as for reviving or saving kiana from celestia might be her true goal. this also would fit the devs original 2014 plan to create the "honkai-verse" and connect all 3 of these games, Honkai Star Rail, Honkai Impact/Gun Girl Z, and Genshin Impact.
still this is just my thoughts on it.
I always thought Kiana would be saved by Dainslief. ''Step aside if you are worthier than I to save her.'' She trapped Lumine, Lumine has beef with Dain. Either 1 or 2 things.
Paimon is a part of the Unknown God. The benevolent part. The Kiana part. One of the shining shades. Maybe all the shades combine to make the heavenly principles and that is why she is away. It is a last ditch effort of preserving her power so the twins can learn the truth and save them. Nahida didn't say Phanes was the first descender..... She said sustainer was. So that's why I believe that.
And the second? If she's the third descender, then we are absolutely COOKED. It's time to harvest our organs for another set of gnosis! x_x
In the dinosaur game, Bronya is a Bron-tosaurus 🤡
I'd drop 1000 on that banner haha
Surprised that it wasn't mentioned that Cocolia is also sort of like Bronya's mother (but not real mother) in HI3. Almost exactly the same role as HSR with her sorta being a bad guy. Wouldn't be surprised if the previous Cryo archon is similar.
If she is like her different selves, i mean tall female model with gorgeous hair, i'm ALL for it
2:45 Bronya is not a name. It's just word armor in Russian. No one uses it actually as a name
an attempt to explain why the Fatui are not the bad guys you think. In this world humans rank far lower than you think, if their memories has been taken you could argue for that they do not have free will anymore. In a world were divine gods exist as well as dragons. From that point of view it's just for Celestia to experiment on humans. The same logic applies in the real world were humans think it's just to experiment on animals. The reason why you experience injustice is because you think of humans at the peak of civilization. But Genshin turns this logic upside down, what if your race was the experimental mice's in a much larger universe. Yes the gods loved humans, but that relationship is more like a lovable dog to a human. The Fatui Dottore understand's this dynamic and he think's it's the survival of the fittest that is the ultimate rule. An argument could be made that the gods don't necessarily hurt humans but that would be the analogy of keeping a human inside a box and feeding it daily would that be considered torture or not. Your perception of what torture is would not exist because all you known is the box but objectively someone outside seeing this would still call it torture.
interesting I actually a video similar to this comment about "what a god actually is" and had a very similar take to your comment so I agree! thanks for sharing
Explanation is simple - when you fight against powerful enemy as underdog - you just cant achieve victory with clean hands
I like the Bronya cryo archon theories but could you make one ab Ana Schariac?She is from the same game but is often overlooked,she is the herrscher of ice so I think it's worth looking into ^^
To be precise, Броня is short version of Бронислава, whшch consists of "брони"(short of боронити) antient russian word for "protect" (it's modern use is indeed броня= armor) and "слава", meaning "glory" - a very common end for old russian names.
Also I should note that emphasis is very important in russian. Common pronounciation of Bronya's name In the fandom puts emphasis on the first syllable, but броня as in armor puts emphasis on the second syllable. The same thing is with Snezhnaya. Somehow in eng dub they put emphasis on a wrong syllable.
You forgot Alhaitham being an expy of Su from Honkai Impact
I still haven't given up on the Tsaritsa looking like Ana Shariac, but Bronya is at least as reasonable if not even more so (tho by going your logic, Murata would have been the original pyro archon succeeded by the Sustainer of Heavenly Principles)
Given how 4.2 archon quest blew my mind, nothing would surprise me at this point!!!
Just a wild theory but what if... The current Cryo archon's lover or father (does not change much in this theory) was the third descender who we know is now the gnoses. When she lost that person, her mother/mother figure (the past cryo archon) consoled her, quelling her sadness. However when Celestia gave the "kill command" against Khaenri'ah and she lost her last emotional pillar as a "collateral damage to the war", her whole world shattered and much like Ei collapsed on herself. Giving in to obsession, which is a distorted kind of love, tries without respite to unite the gnoses to bring back descender #3 in hope of toppling Celestia. As stated Venti and her were buddies way back, so who knows, she might be a 2600-3000 y/o who got her "job" only about 500 years ago.
This theory is already pretty obvious at this point besides Belobog is kinda a preview of what Schneznaya will be already also it would be a big copout if one of the 3 main Hoyoverse cover girls doesnt have a counterpart in this game also since the current Tsaritsa is actually the second in line high chance the first Cryo Archon is either a Ana or Cocolia clone
Thanks for this! I feel like Snezhnaya is also the nation of Love/Camaraderie
They have dropped hints about this. Several times when we attack Fatui camps the Fatui say things that make it sound like they don't understand why they are being attacked but they will defend themselves. I believe we have grosly mislabeled the Fatui. Not saying they haven't used questionable actions. But I believe they believe they are trying to help.
Bold theory, But as someone who has been reading the genshin lores for years. I have enough evidences to prove to you that the light prince is Dainsleif and the cryo archon is actually the pale princess who fell in love with the light prince and the other six pygmies being the other six archons.
I wouldn't be surprised, OG player here as well
Yeah both can be true pale princess could be bronya or whatever carnation of that character they use
I thought the Third Descender is the referenced prince here and the Tsaritsa is collecting the Gnosis to revive him again.
@@decromanger28 The third descender is probably not the light prince. I have theorized by myself that it’s actually the dragon king who got identified as a descender by the Irminsul when he left Teyvat to get the power of abyss and then enter Teyvat to face the primordial one.
Can U explain your theory?
Bronya x Seele
um didn't a Seelie fall in love with a human? Seele sounds so similar to Seelie to.
Only the nightmother and lightprince are missing
I agree that Tsaritsa is not evil. Like Raiden Ei, who also wasn't evil, but had her reasons. Tsaritsa also have her reasons. World is not just white or black, good or evil. Sometimes good people must do terrible things.
I think the only thing I kind of hold against her - well, her Fatui - is that they tend to cause a lot of misery and chaos in their mission to get the gnosis... And it really seems like you could achieve the same result just by asking. Because really, all the Archons kind of throw away their chess piece aas soon as they can, making the whole "let's build an organisation to make convoluted plots in every nation in order to get the gnosis" seem like a complete overthinking move.
At this point, I half-expect the Pyro Archon to have thrown away their gnosis in a ditch, and for the local Harbinger to just trip on it by accident.
Before honkai impact 3rd there was a game called gunz girls. Where mei , and kiana being the lead cast. Later introducing bronya and seele, himeko as playable.
I 100% agree with all this especially on the fact that in Honkai impact Bronya actually grew up as a sniper in Siberia in the game before meeting cocoalia (sorry if I spelled the name wrong)
And for those who don't know for her younger years she grew up as a sniper silver wolf in the game up until she was I guess commissioned or missioned? (I'm not sure what you were to use for it) with cocolia as the target to 💀 but after the rifle misfired or something cocolia took her in and brought her to her orphanage brought her to her orphanage and the story goes from there
Also if anybody wants to learn more or read more or whatever or learn the ending because I don't think this is completely accurate is just a brief summary it comes from the honkai impact manga Azure Waters😅 and the reason I say might not be completely accurate it's because it's been a long time since I read it😅
Bronya fits the part but which Bronya model will they use, Young Hi3 Bronya/Haxxor Bunny/HSR Silverwolf or Older HSR Bronya/Hi3 Silverwing?
A mix between her Herrscher of Reason and Herrscher of Truth outfits would be perfect for the Tsaritsa
prob a mix of them all and they call her Ronya haha
@@TheGamerChronicles999 _RONYA RAND_
19TH TSARITSA OF THE FEDERAL TSARDOM OF SNEZHNAYA
Imagine if the previous Cryo Archon was Genshin Impact's version of Welt, now that'd be extra layers
If I've learned anything in hoyo games, is that not everything is black and white.
I believe Bronya from HSR was the original design for Silver Wing NX in Hi3. Unfortunately the design didn’t fit the narratives in Hi3 so they had to make her much more Curvier if known what I mean.
No it wasn't
Lmfao that "SPIDER-PIG" snuck in there almost fn killed me.
One thing is for sure, I am looking forward to meeting the Tsaritsa! Also, I don't think she'll be an archon we fight. I think we'll have enough on our hands with the other Harbingers we've yet to encounter. But I could be wrong off course.
Also nice touch with adding Zelda's Ice Ruins song in there.
small correction - snezhnaya is not just russia, its whole slavic europe, at least west slavs and easy slavs, wich includes poland and ukraine. you may knew abt it but a lot of ppl forgets it while already i game there are things like pierogi and borscht wich are polish and ukrainian dishes, there is also fatui npc in fontaine who is named Malinovskyi, and it's polish surename, very common btw. but your point is atill valid cause og bronya (from hi3rd) is russian, just snezhnaya itself is not just russia
Lmao I don’t get why people gets mad, I love the theory crafting, for me that’s like the most attractive thing about the Genshin universe , speculation about what’s yet to come its the fun part to me , love the video, keep up the good work 🖤
The expys (I think) some are based on looks/vibes, others on story themes)
Wendy: Venti
Bronya: Tsar Bronya
Mei: Ei
Teresa: Nahida
Murata: Mavuika
Seele: Furina
Kiana: Asmoday
Yae Sakura: Yae Miko
Cocolia: La Signora
Natasha Ciorra: Peruer
Su: Alhaitham
Fu Hua: Madame Ping
Otto Apocolypse: Dottore/Ayato
Only mans can be the Tsar
In Russia, Tsar is men, and Tsaritsa is feminine.
Also in HI3rd Bronya’s later battlesuits are all ice element.
"Not evil"
>Kidnaps and tortures children
Yeah, gonna press X to doubt on that one 'buddy'.
We don't know if she does that her subordinate do but I doubt she knows what they get up too on a day to day basis
@@TheGamerChronicles999I refuse to believe that.
There is absolutely no way that a god acting as a dictator would not know what their underlings are doing.
Just look at Raiden, she knew literally EVERYTHING that was going on in her nation. She just didn't care.
You're going to tell me that the Cryo Archon wouldn't know of the heinous crimes against humanity some of her closest and highest ranking members would be up to?
It's not like some random mook we're talking about, these are the Harbingers we're talking about.
These are her most powerful assets, why wouldn't you keep tabs on them at all times even if it was just for their own safety?
Well, her enemy is Celestia which casually sentence whole nation of Fontain to slow death in Primordial Water sea . So you need broke some moral borders in order to be able to fight against such enemy.
Also, if we take Linie and Linnet - Fatui save them from rich Fontaine pedofiels
@@Rpground Once again - her enemy is a genocidal God, far more powerful then everything and everyone. She is not in position to pick her ally or care about moral borders. You cant beat Celestia with power of friendship
@@Алексей545-т6б Celestia isn't genocidal...what are you talking about?
You're pulling this from no where, if Celestia was genocidal then why would half to Teyvat even exist?
Why would they allow Alice, Klee's mother, to live at all? She casually just leaves the world whenever she wants and has demonstrated powers that are frankly insane. You'd think if Celestia was genocidal that they would have done, or tried to do something about her.
And if you mean Khaenri'ah, they kinda brought it on themselves considering they basically went full hubris mode and went for that forbidden knowledge that literally destroys the world.
Just look at what happened to Sumeru if you want even a taste of what that knowledge caused.
And even if, IF, we even give you that Celestia is all these things you say they are...at what point do you justify being a genocidal maniac to defeat another genocidal maniac?
I didn't realize that the bar was so low that in order to defeat a monster you have to become a monster yourself.
Every video bro cooks
Isnt Love always subjective? I mean, there are people who claim to love someone so much that they better ded them so that nobody else can have them or who claim to love someone so much that they want to controll them into extremes.
So, god of Love maybe is subjective.
nahh yoooooooooo this 1 of the CRAZIEST takes of the game ever i love it
& im 100% with ya about her true intentions. the god of love bro the cryo region will be genshin impact peak im callin it right here
They'll probably change Bronya's name to.
The former Hexenzirkel member Isabella Ivanovna Nikolaevna who lost her husband to a "disease".
They won't mess up with a dead characters name and just leave us with I. Ivanovna N. like its obvious she isn't actually dead.
- Isabella the Innamorati aka the Lovers from Commedia Dell'Arte, which will almost finish the troupe
- Ivanovna (means Daughter of Ivan) probably based on Ivan the Terrible, since she has no love left for her people.
- Nikolaevna. Because I believe she'll be based on the last Tsaritsa Alexandra Feodorovna and her daughter Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna.
- That's why I believe the Cathedral in the Fatui trailer is based on the, "Church of All Saints" or the "Church on the Blood"
- The Church on the Blood was built on top of the Ipatiev House where the Royal Family of Russia met their tragic fate.
- There are people saying that the Tsaritsa has a Saint name unlike the other Archons.
- That's probably because the whole Royal Romanov Family were deemed as Saints after what happened to them. (Canonization of the Romanovs)
I believe in Genshin's case all of the cities and kingdoms are built on top of the old forgotten civilizations all saved on books.
"Words became Stories, Stories became History, History became Legends, and Legends became Myths.
And some things that should not have been forgotten were lost in time." - Galadriel, Lord of the Rings
"Dungeons are traces of a places from all over the world that no longer exists. A world that has met its end..." - I made it up ehe~
Okay but like Theresa looks nothing like Nahida.
[Have not watched the video and will not cuz of spoilers, but I still have thoughts and comments will support you, so why not? :D]
Despite only seeing the "bad" Tsaritsa rumors ingame, I am somehow convinced that the Tsaritsa will be a character I'll be absolutely bad down for. And somehow, I can totally see her being voiced my AmaLee in eng dub. Tsaritsa is shaping up to be a cold, somewhat dominating, confident, "morally grey" character. Which would be very fitting for AmaLee - a VA that is kinda known for such roles by now, and that Hoyoverse clearly has on the radar from previous work, but somehow never used for a Genshin character yet.
one thing to know about hoyoverse is that they never add or take away lore points accidentally. everything they add into the game or story is fully on purpose. so yes, i think this might be true
"Bronya" translates as "armour"
And if i understand correctly her full name would be rabbit armour
i agree with everything but the very last part - i've seen bronya in the honkai universes has extreme canon implications to have Seele as a romantic interest so I believe that if they're going to stick with the bronya expy, they'll include the relationship with seele too. The Tsaritsa and Pierro's relationship can definetly be personal but i don't think that it extends to romantic partners. But now i'm curious to see how and if they're going to make a 'seele' for our bronya, i'm so ready for the Goddess of Love' s love story
I'm still on the fence with the Tsarista being the literal god of love... If Bronya is her expy as you claim then wouldn't she be the god of truth/reason like the hersherr she became in hi3?
I have a headcanon that the previous cryo archon ended up being a tyrant at somepoint decarabian style and the people prayed to be saved and so the tsaritsa stepped up and became their god to answer the people's prayers. Bonus points if she was previously a human warrior with a cryo vision who ascended to the seat of god.
Well that’s bronya from hi3 her being the hercherr of reason in that game doesn’t mean she has to be the god of reason in Genshin she can still have that truth and reason aspect especially since she’s trying to defy against Celestia and pretty much sees the truth of teyvat it’s possible her being the god of love is her reason of defying the heavens to love is to sin in a way like scara said
the tsarista probably loves humanity and her main goal is to use the gnosis to revive the third descender or do something to give humanity the power to defeat celestia.
Yea but if Genshin is based on our real life world...then Russi-EHEM i mean Snezhnaya is going to be....F.U.C.K.E.D. UP🙂
WAIT SO I WASNT CRAZY FOR REMEMBERING BRONYA BEING TALKED ABOUT SOMEWHERE IN CHILDE'S DESCRIPTION? Cuz I remember this and I COULDNT FIND IT ANYMORE
Welcome to the Bronyaverse.
I thought it was obvious she wasn’t evil. She was going to be playable and it’s a somewhat rule that all playable characters have to be on good terms with the traveler. Examples would be Scaramoche and Arlecchino. The Cryo archon most likely the god of love was never evil. It was always a misdirect in my eyes. I have a feeling she wants to return the land and powers back to their owners. Celestia is evil, not the fatui. That’s the entire point of them taking Celestia down as Celestia the “old world” needs to end and a new world needs to be made anew, again.
I mean dottere tortures children and the fatui are literally identified as a crime syndicate... so.. she also waging war on the world ... like huh? Yall will over look her literally show running criminal..shes evil. The word is redeemable character...like just because shes waging war on the world for "her" idea of peace doesn't mean shes a good guy. Her actually people dont like her at all, she's cruel which childe also said she froze her heart to do war..if America said they were waging war on the world for peace would you think they were evil? Like huh? We dont know what peace for the Tsaritsa even looks like.. i hope shes playable but evil. I think we should have evil characters especially just to roam around and fight monsters
Now im convinced she's retrieving all the gnoses to revive her lover, the third descender. That would be wild
Tarista is the god of kindness
....where...
Im here to say that the Tsaritsa in Arlecchino Demo has the same VA in JP and CN as Bronya. At this point, is a 100% shes gonna be a Bronya.
this makes it feel like starrail is gensgin but backwards
At this point, it would be surprising if the Tsaritsa isn't Bronya. Genshin's Seele probably died in Khanri'ah, which led her to get real salty
Honestly I prefer Anna as Tsaritsa since she's the Ice Herrscher, but Bronya fits in terms of personality.
I dont know much about honkai, but from her look and how she's in HSR, Bronya is a kind person, Tsaritsa is said to be similar as she's the archon of LOVE. In HSR, Bronya is still kind, but she matured up so much after taking Cocolia's mantle and rule Belobog. However, HSR Bronya's story is way lighter than what Tsaritsa faces, and I think that if Bronya is put under similar trauma as Tsaritsa, she can also harden herself due to her kindness.
To be honest, rather than having Bronya as the Tsaritsa tho, I really wish it's Anna because appearance wise, the Bronya I see so far doesnt have that..."aura of an archon". I would like Bronya to be someone from Snezh, maybe someone who opposed the Tsaritsa.
However, excluding the "leaks", Bronya being the base for Tsaritsa is very sound since:
1. Bronya's latest HI3 battlesuit are all Ice types (silverwing, HoR and HoT)
2. Bronya is a Russian in HI2, and Snezh is using Russian references
3. I have a strong feeling Silverwing ver will be used as the base, since she's the most mature there in terms of appearance. I really hope they consider her silverwing ver 😭
Still placing my bets for ana as the cryo archon expy (I need more ana content)
Wait, people think the Tsaritsa is Evil?? Like you said! She is the Archon of Love, a kindred spirit who changed after the Cataclysm 500 years ago, and Childe basically describes her as "Someome who has to be tought or her heart would shatter" She is clearly Broken, not Evil!! I've thought that since forever ._.
Hey, hi. Why not draw an analogy with Anna Shariak from Honkai Impact? It seems she is more suitable for the cryo archon than Bronya.
But! This does not mean that in Snezhnaya we will not meet the local Bronya as a new game character. And whose prototype she will be, we can only guess. Maybe she will be an assistant to the cryo-archon or, on the contrary, the opposition. Or a super-duper agent of Fatui.
Bronya is not a Russian name. It just means armor in Russian. I am Russian. We do not have such a name. Nobody gives a person the name "protection". Our names simply mean something from some old-ancient language. If the Russians wanted to give a female name with the meaning of "protection", it would be Alexandra, Sasha, Sashka, Shurik. And Bronya's last name is very similar to one common last name - Zaitseva (translated as bunny).
Many people miss that the name Kokolia has also been given in Russia since ancient times. I'm not sure that it is not borrowed, but it was mentioned in records from 1854 in the city of Belomorsk (the meaning is similar to... sea-sand / Morepesok). There they called one landowner by this surname. If anyone knows where this name was also given - let me know). But the meaning of this name also fits the power of the divine essence of the cryo-archnot. "For this person, family, love, interpersonal relationships are of greater importance, such a person extremely rarely cheats on a legal partner and tries to give all the best to his children and grandchildren." This is the meaning of the name Kokolia.
Well, this is a problem everywhere in an attempt to create a name for a citizen of another state. Many Japanese probably laugh at us as we come up with names for fan fiction. I apologize if I somehow offended you with this comment. It's just that everything is explained so well in the video, but only that moment with the name made me choke on my tea.
You made me choke on my tea for the second time when you compared Rasputin and Pierrot. Oh my God! What a fucking coincidence! Rasputin was the most ordinary charlatan psychic healer who was lucky enough to catch the eye of one woman. She had a sick son suffering from hemophilia. This woman was the last empress of the Russian empire, and that boy was Tsarevich Alexei. Rasputin deceived her, manipulated her, putting pressure on love through grief.
I really liked the theory. I will eagerly await the next videos)
Cygames loves to borrow characters from their ancient Rage of Bahamut game...and reuse them over and over again.
One thing I learned recently is that the worlds that exist in the imaginary tree contain more than one planet, which means it's more like a solar system than a planet, this could be the reason why characters from different planets are reflecting each other. I don't believe those games exist in multiple universes it's called Hoyoverse for a reason.
Thank you once more for the video. I'm looking forward to watching your next video
I also remember the early leaks of genshin tbh never played other gachas so it meant nothing to me haha
yeah its easy to miss
They use inspiration for characters yes. But the character is not in Genshin. But they are connected to each other. That we have been told flat out
the devs confirmed tevat is apart of the honkaiverse. Loved the video as I've played all games but please understand this.
She hardened her heart.
You want to know someone? Look at the people they surround themselves with. The Cryo Archon is delusional.
Remember Wanderer said love is itself another kind of sin. Cryo Archon's love is more of the painful violent type.
Ngl I was hoping for Ana Shariac to be the cryo archon.
We still need the Kiana (Unknown goddess) and Bronya (Cryo archon) as well as Kevin, Otto, Welt and others from Honkai universe(s).
0:31 no please, i dont like the drill hair style 🔥 i want a cryo archon with the look of ei but with white long straight hair
"Bronya" is not a name. It's just a word that literally means "Armor".
Why? This is an Diminutive of a Polish name Bronislava
I don't think that the Tsaritsa being the God of Love immediately means she can't be evil. Love and Evil aren't synonyms. And in that line about her from the Travail Trailer it says she is a "god with no love left for her people." I do think Hoyo is going to go down the "the tsaritsa and harbingers are the antagonists but they're actually united under the Tsaritsa's just cause" but seems like she left that love behind with the cataclysm
Honestly, I'm starting to feel that the Fatui might betray the Tsaritsa.
The cryo archon can still be evil but still be god of love, like doom. Doom loves his people but still wants world domation. Her actions are evil but for the sake of love for her people, like she does it because she has to. I also like the theory the the previous cryo archon was a king and the current one was his wife.
Everybody: Pyro Archon will be Himeko
Recent Leaks: eh eh
then a plot twist happen...
the cryo archon is actually dark seele... and bronya die resulting in goddess of love to no longer love.
Damn. Why is this actually kinda close to my fanfic T-T like Althea (The Tsaritsa. yes thats what i named her dont judged me) was the younger sister of the former cryo archon Rozen (my freind named her) and literally saw her die in front of her. And because she was so broken about khaenri'ah i decided to make her use to live in khaenri'ah before she became the cryo archon T-T what do you think?
"the cryo archon has been leaked already"
*Honkai Star Rail spoilers ahead*
Ok, what kind of cross Hoyo shenanigans are we going for this time???
damn. so we have raiden, theresa, himeko, bronya and kiana together again. i know there are other expys for example venti wendy, but im just mentioning the main characters in honkai impact 3rd
The Sky is fake and the stars are fixed because this is an alternate Teyvat kept in check by Celestia and the sustainer of heavenly principles, an alternate timeline just before the catastrophe with Kaenriah sealed in place. When the siblings tried to escape this world it was in chaos and in full war against abyss creatures, but they were stopped by the sustainer of the heavenly principles (?) (Or was it Rhinedotr the Khaenrian Alchemist who summoned a Descender to try to control the abyss in the first place? we know Lumine was the princess of the Abyss in the nationless god that started the apocalypse)
Only when the journey ends the God of Time can merge this universe into the real one and cure the corruption. We must help the story of each nation fulfill to 'accommodate' to other events and then for it to "match" with the real timeline so they can be fused again, and just like Neuvillete, we must live amongst the people of Teyvat to want to protect it and confront our Sibling in the end. In the end we'll go back to Kaenriah before the apocalypse is my guess and defy our sibling.
"A will that can match an entire world"
you're genuinely one of the best lore crafters. Unlike phoney, insinscere hyprocrites like ashikai and islandxd who overanalyze everything, most of it not even being related to genshin and then turn out to be so wrong that it's funny; you actually look into the lore of the game itself and hoyo's other games.
Well it make sense that hi3 has genshin counterparts like furina is seele
Since genshin is based on Gnosticsm, then the real enemy is probably the Primordial One.
Bronya? No, she must be Ronya.
I hear that twilight princess music, you can't fool me.
I don't disagree with the theory aside from maybe taking into account Teyvat tends to either subvert expectations or divurge a little more abstractly from the base DNA the Honkai characters used for the derivative exports.
Also I'd like to note, they're still Mihoyo. Hoyoverse is the studio department that handles global distribution while MiHoYo is the base Chinese company.
It's kind of like how if Nintendo developed everything as is, but used Game Freak (pokemon) when distributing the stuff globally.
It's for taxing purposes and creative direction impeding laws.
Haha good ear you know ur Zelda and yeah it might be the most different version we get but I think it gives people a good baseline on what to expect I just cant believe they forgot to take that out of the files haha, Oh didnt know that thought they changed names makes sense though!
@@TheGamerChronicles999 Yea I've kind of played the entire series lol.
Hoyoverse is like stationed in Singapore (or Hong Kong?) So they can bypass less favorable restrictions. That's the origin of the name change we saw.
Well the horrible actions of the fatui are still unacceptable. It's like someone who want to do the right thing but ending up doing the opposite. I think Celestia (Heavenly Principles), Fatui and Abyss Order are all villains and the traveler is the real hero.
The Dragon Sovereigns cant be killed since theyll always reincarnate into other beings when they die.
Its not because of "Teyvat", since its never elaborated why they keep reincarnating.
Also, the cryo Archon can definetly be evil, since, assuming the Fatui are actually operating under the Tsaritsa, you can argue that their actions dont justify her means of "saving" Teyvat...
Well, in Fountain, Celestia sentence whole nation to cruel death because previous archon dare to disobey them. This is the enemy Tsaritsa fight against
@@Алексей545-т6б no one said that the cryo archon isnt fighting Celestia or that Celestia isnt evil. All I said is that the Tsaritsa's actions dont exactly make her "good"...
I heard shes gonna be based off bronya from honkai impact 3rd!!!! Im soooo happyyyyy
If the tsaritas is Bronia, could she have someone at her side that is on the level of the fatui harbingers but outside them based on seele
i like to think that maybe she lost her lover who was that "person on the lvl of the harbingers" (seele) in the cataclysm wich could have been the final straw for her since she lost her closest loved one
I kinda want to see Cryo Archon’s gameplay. I really want her to make ice bridge by walking on water like cryo slimes. Hope Hoyoverse won’t make her.. well, a failure..
5:36 im after this might be true for the Pyro Archon 😂 look at that lame war cut scene we had in Inuzuma...
How abt seele tho she is attached to bronya in EVERY universe hell they even got a canon kiss, it seems very unlikly for the whole heartbreak story line to be abt seele as the scensorship is too strong for that.
Its no Multiverse, its only one universe. There are translation problems.
But I think you are complete right. The cryo archon will be a version of Bronya and I don't trinken she is evtl too. 👍
Actually it is a multiverse the only games that are directly connected to each other are star rail and hi3 in one of the special programs in hi3 they mentioned how star rail, and hi3 are heavily connected plus genshin is relatively different from other Honkai games plus it has a different name that’s not Honkai and welt in hi3 actually travels to another universe which is star rail plus star rail have achievements that mention other Honkai games but not Genshin so in itself Genshin is its own universe due to how different it is from the Honkai games it never even mentiones the name Honkai and Genshin isn’t up to modern day technology like star rail and hi3 are
@@isaiahhaley4816 its official that there are 4 games connectet in one universe. GGZ, Honkai Impact, Genshin Impact and Honkai Starrail.
Homu Labs has a very good video about it, where he explains it very well.
@@timobernhard6696 still doesn’t make any sense since welt was confirmed to be from hi3 and traveler to another universe that being star rail plus the company is called hoyoverse
@@isaiahhaley4816It makes sense when taking context into account. For genshin, Teyvat is in its own bubble, quarantined by Celestia from the rest of the universe.
It might be a lil farther away on the imaginary tree, and thus is a fantasy world unlike the overall scifi of the Honkai games, but it's still connected.
I hope Tsaritsa will look tall white hair mommy