Cryo Archon "Tsaritsa" & Pierro The Jester Relationship Explained! Genshin Impact 4.5 Lore & Theory
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The Pale Princess & Pierro The Jester Relationship Explained! Genshin Impact 4.4 Lore & Theory
The Tsaritsa is the pale princess in genshin impact?
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Starter characters: Let's all be connected to kaenri'ah and not tell Amber
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Meanwhile:Amber being princess of celesitia😅
Love how old lore is still so interesting after 4 years just a simple book in a story quest
We still don't know what the other parts of the book says and we know such book holds secrets that the abyss order wanted to subdue Celestia and Teyvat, adding characters we've yet to know, like the pale princess and the night mother so yeah.. isn't it surprising it is interesting?
@@emd4682all chapters of the book have been leaked way long time ago
Every strong and sus character is kinda from Mondstadt isn't it like Lisa,mona,klee,albedo, diluc, keaya all are so much strong directly or indirectly
Alebdo and kaeya : shure bro
what if the person that the cryo archon fell in love with was the Third Descender. And this happened way before the cataclysm after she either tried to investigate or randomly encountered the gem/statute that we see in the caribert quest. She gets intrigued by it and they form a close relation over time. the third descender tells her all about his past (fight with the first and second descenders and the truth of the gnosis) and she confides about this with pierro after the cataclysm leading to the fatui being formed to retrieve the gnosis. And all of this happens through some sort of proxy because the statue/stone just happens to either be in or near khanrhia and that proxy (who was close to the tsaritsa, cuz platonic love is also a thing) gets killed in the cataclysm which prompts the tsaritsa's current outlook to be created
you never know will be interesting to find out! personally I don't think so cause the gnosis are the sovereign authority so I think its the dragon king but anything can happen!
@@TheGamerChronicles999wait ? Isn't the gnosis being Dragon authority is debunked already .. it's made with third descender remains..or am I high ?
@@TheGamerChronicles999no, gnosises were made with the remains of the third descender and this has been confirmed
@cryoworcestershiresauce Ya thats what I implied
@soujiokita6062 No? The gnosis are remains of the 3rd descender who is most likely the dragon king each archon has the authority of the soverigns hence furina giving Neuvillette back to him putting him back at full strength
I really have my thing that Pierro might very likely be the prince, and I don't like the fact that he is only seen as manipulative, yes he is not good and he hired Dottore not the best guy in town but, as for is relationship with the Tsarista, if she loves him and I really think that being together for 500 years is nearly impossible to not develope a kind of closeness... And I think in some very deep corner of his soul Pierro is actually also fallen in love with her, maybe she is using her for revenge, maybe it was his plan all along but know he changed his mind on her a little, and Kaeya maybe being their son... sent away by the Tsarista for protecting him but Pierro using him as a spy... is not so irrational to me
As much as I love the Tsaritsa = Pale Princess, I honestly don't want her to have the tragic romantic backstory. If she's going to be the god of love I want her love for the people of teyvat to be so great that when she witnessed the calamity 500 years ago and realised celestia did not help and made things worse to be her primary source of grief. Its also one of the reasons why i dont want her to be a god of love. If we do tackle the love topic, I want it to be the different types of love that isnt romantic.
My thoughts. There's layers to this but I want the Tsaritsa to have motivations of her own. I dont want her actions to be guided by romantic love and her ambitions influenced by romance.
it will most likely be bronya but seele is dead :P and not kiana is why shes dead
The Tsarista's lack of love for her people might mean her love for those like her, and not necessarily humans. It could explain how she feels about the other archons. Or it could be her heart is so broken that she can't love her citizens. Or, it could be her not showing warm love, but seen as loveless.
I think The Air Archon hid the body. And that's why the traveler goes to mondstat first. Think about it. Venti is the one closes to trees. Venti also shows the most regret over the Cataclysm.
I don't think it's danslief though. The threat said a thousand years...maybe it's someone else. The Archon war did happen. What if the Tsarista was using and fell in love with Kenriah while trying to slyly find ways to seek revenge? And then the Cataclysm happened. And it really pissed her off so she openly wages war? And she's trying to collect the Archon powers to bring the savior without realizing its the traveler? And made her hate the other gods?
Watch as Hoyo decides to make Paimon the Tsaritsa, and her dead lover is the 3rd descender that's about to be resurrected.
lol that would be wild Childe attacking us and his master the tsaritsa
nah not possible. tsarista is bronya expy. paimon seems more fitting to be a seelie or moon sister. the daughter of the primordial one (in correlation to fischl, the actual one, not amy) even.
So would a seele expy be the prince? Given her characteristics of having afinity for or being born of the sea of quanta? Maybe something like the prince being lost to the abyss in parallel to seele being stuck in the sea of quanta? Bronya also embodies truth so maybe that's also somehow relevant to the general analysis?@@cryoworcestershiresauce
Bruv, you really need to check out the animated movie The Angel's Egg. Hoyo is definitely taking massive inspiration from it. "My Name For Now" did a 1 hour and 20 minute long video that talks about Genshin's relation to it, among other things like Dark Souls and previous Hoyoverse games, if you find the time to check it out.
I will check it out! where is it played on?
@@TheGamerChronicles999 I can only seem to find Angel's Egg on Dailymotion.
@@TheGamerChronicles999 ruclips.net/video/nf6Z4RNKzrU/видео.htmlsi=NxQ7-u6bf_j0_wqW this is the Angel’s Egg video that My Name for Now made
What if tsaritsa's only reason and only love was the sheznqyan Prince??
Pierro’s manipulation of the Tsaritsa would make sense when compared to Rasputin and his involvement with the Romanovs. Shadow5452Gaming has a video on Snezhnaya and how the story could go. It’s 40 minutes long but I highly recommend giving it a watch since Snezhnaya is based off of Russia. I do believe the Tsaritsa did have a child with someone at some point.
Simple. Pierro is the Cryo Dragon Sovereign, who tempted the Tsaritsa, Eve, after the death of Adam, aka the Primordial Human. Adam is the Traveler's Twin, a homunculus made by Khaenriah's Khemia whom the Tsaritsa fell in love with. This was forbidden, and the Traveler's Twin was split into the Gnoses, which after seeing the Tsaritsa so distraught, Pierro promises to hatch a plan to recollect the pieces of her lover and rebirth Adam anew. Gold's prototype human was Albedo, using a portion of Zhongli's power (Geo) as the driving force, as per his contract with the Tsaritsa. Later, Ei's son was another such example of a primordial human made imbued with Electro. Zhongli knows the Traveler can literally only ever see their sibling again when the GNOSES ARE COLLECTED AND COMBINED to make them. Meanwhile, CREATING the gnoses VOIDED the Sibling of all elements, transforming them into the mathematically absolute prince/princess of the void, the ABYSS. That makes the Traveler a manufactured DELUSION, driven (gasp, WORN/WIELDED) by Paimon and used to recollect the power of the Gnoses, at which point the BECOME the sibling they lost before. And in Gnosticism, collecting all of the knowledge needed achieve enlightenment transforms you into a god. In this case, the god the Traveler was before they were split. The Original god.
This theory is amazing!
Hey ! For sure, archons can have children ! Murata, pyro archon, had several children... Venessa is one of her descendant...
And Venessa is the great great grandmother of ...Diluc !
Rendez-vous to Natlan (soon) 😉👍
venessa is not any grandmother of diluc, during the revolt against the aristocracy, ragvindre clan was an already established clan just like the lawrence clan. also ragvindre clan played an important lore during the unnamed bard's rebellion against decarabian which took places much much before venessa came into the picture
She isn’t collecting everything to resurrect a descender, she’s wanting to resurrect her Prince. You said it the Prince was put into a tree. Maybe it’s Irmini-Whateversol tree. Or some other random tree Maple Tree somewhere we’ve pass 1000 times. She just wants her Prince back.
I think because the gnosis is the sovereign authority the dragon king is the 3rd descender myself plus if the prince was alive 500 years ago archons already had a gnosis
what if the Prince IS the Descender? He could be like Lumine (who was also considered a Princess in Khaenri'ah) and was killed so the Heavenly Principles could become stable again after the war with Nibelung
@@miminkotube better yet after a recent theory on the possible burning of the tree and severing everyone’s from the tree.
Burn the Tree, end the Thanos Snap cycle of resurrection. Bring back her Prince and end the reign of the Heavenly Principles once and for all.
So burn the the Tree in V5,
V6 head to confront the Tsaritsa, learn the truth. Bring down a hidden enemy.
V7 time for a System of the Down, everyone BYOB to the party and have a real good time. Standing with all the Archons, Dragon, Sovereign to take down the Heavenly Principles!
The tree near monstadt statue of the seven where venti called us at the end of the quest
The light prince is Dainsleif and the Pale princess is Tsaritsa. Change my mind🗿
@@X-hv7gt Bruh I have more than enough evidences to convince you that he is the light prince but whatever and the gnostic chorus siblings are not the Tsaritsa and Dain but instead it’s the unknown god and Dain if that’s what you are referring to when you said that they are related. Anyways, I am free to argue with you on this topic.
Really not very likely because of his connection to the abyss sibling, he would have searched for the Tsarista if he was the prince and not follow Lumine or Aether
I need playable Tsaritsa NOW! Been planning to roll for her from the very beginning.
I definitely wonder when the Natlan archon quest happens, if and when we meet the Captain, will he give us info about the Cryo archon since Snezhnaya is next year (crazy to think that it'll be here before you know it). I'll be expect lore bombs for the overall story for sure. Heck, we're about to get one when the next Dainsleif quest drops (hopefully in 4.6). Maybe the Traveler will ask him about the 3rd Descender?
god I hope so arlecchino voicelines might even!
Hey, I have a crazy thought. What if Our sibling is the cryo archon. On the other thought she can't be the cryo arcon since she's one of the traveller which wouldn't make sence if she was. And then I also think the unknown god could also very much be the cryo archon. I don't know what she is but I'm 100% sure that it's someone we know and it'll give us a big plot twist as a cutseen at the end of part 1 of the cryo archon quest.
Depending on which twin you chose in the beginning, the gender of the other will be different and a “tsaritsa” can only refer to a female which makes this theory near impossible.
Wasn't the original Cryo Archon dead?
Ya probably but how does that relate to anything?
@@dashhound8974 The theory only makes sense with the original Archon.
@VeraldoAncodini why? The book is referring to the cataclym which is 500 years ago and the Tsaritsa was the archon so what would the Original cryo archon have to do with that?
@VeraldoAncodini confirmed in game she was the archon before the cataclysm so it could be any number of years before even thosands but either way original cryo archon had nothing to do with the cataclysm or that book
oh ya lets go watching this with morning coffee
Isn't the battle pass both the travelers. Since Lumine is the first to awaken in the lore, and she is the one that follows the abyss that could be seen as the kingdom of darkness, while Aether is the knight to save her. I want to know how you link Dainsleif to the battle pass?
But if you chose lumine as main and aether as abyss , it doesn’t match with the battle pass animation. And if I’m not wrong, according to Chinese/ Japanese translation, Aether is older than lumine
Nah, Tsaritsa is Bronya. And every Bronya has a Seele.
Source: Genshin Beta voice lines (Tortellini)
IMAGINE IF SAVING HER MEANT SAVING THE TSARITSA FROM BECOMING SOMETHING SHE DOESNT WANT
You need to keep in mind what Pierro said in response to Rosalynes death. I doubt hes manipulative. He just has a different reason to want the "new world". That would mean they arent mutually aligned but rather fighting for the same primary goal. They are allies but have their own individual goals.
Man now I’m more curious about meeting the Cryo Archon face to face too bad we’re still in a filler arc in monstant and Arlecchino pulling up soon
the tsarista could've been with king irmun. there's a lot of lore surrounding him as well
Would love to see a video of how you think teyvats history looks and how the future will play out. It would be really long one but I really want to see it.
what about the descender who got turned into the gnosis? could they be the person the tsaritsa fell in love with and is trying to revive them by getting all the gnosis.
don't think so cause the gnosis are the sovereign authority so I think 3rd descender is the dragon king plus archons had a gnosis already long before 500 years ago during the events of this book
@@TheGamerChronicles999the dragon King was seen as descender cuz he went outside tevyat to find forbidden knowledge and power that can be on par with celestia and we could see but he brought distruction to world and we can see sinner could be like one of the main focus of this story we don't know if he has his own body right now as he was shown in venti's upside down statue and only dark matter second time and I think he hi the one who owns narhawal as pet
Dottore is NOT a rebound, he is a FINE CATCH. Tho I disagree that Pierro is taking advantage of the Tsaritsa. I think their goals are aligned. Pierro was basically ignored as a mage and the Tsaritsa seems to have suffered a similar fate, where the archons ignored her. We do also know from Childe and Dottore lines that she gives orders, not always Pierro, like when she ordered Dottore to return to Snezhnaya, his one Segment did set sail, lol. That Segment also spoke very highly of her, simpish, even. Not unlike Childe, tho Childe also said it was the Tsaritsa who sent him personally to Inazuma, so she definitely knew that Dottore was in Sumeru, she just sent mf on a wild goose chase so he wouldn't ruin their mission lol. But yeah, I don't think there is anything untoward between Pierro and the Tsaritsa, also worth saying all Fatui receive their insignias from her, not Pierro, same with all Harbingers (Signora), and that they have feasts with her there so she is definitely in. The Tsaritsa likeky wasn't shown because revealing an Archon is part of a nation's hype and she would've taken focus away from the Harbingers. She was implied to be there tho, since we see Zapolyarny Palace entombed in ice after WNL scene.
Love isn't always being soft, like many have said, the Tsaritsa is waging war for the sake of peace, because it is the only way to break the Teyvat matrix. The Harbingers are also all people who have been wronged by the gods in some way or other, or unfairly treated, except Pantalone who for some reason just balmed his own failures on the gods before resorting to crime (commie loser), and Scaramouche who didn't even go through anything bad but is a professionak victim that blames others/never takes accountability for anything.
Dottore who even mentioned him?
It was about Pierro... Dumb dumb
Confused don't think Dottore was mentioned once
Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain kicks in
I cant wait to see her
340 days left
Yk that HoYo cannot make her love someone?
Doesn't pretty much any theory based on the scripts of the never released further volumes count - at best - as a leak -- and at this point is most likely simply a bad leak, based on items that will never be in-game now? It doesn't feel like they're ever going to continue the story that started with Lisa chasing down a lost book, but if they do they won't be using the old data mined text of the other 6 books in the series.
Feel for her ❤
What about Neuvilette and Zhongli doing their utmost to avoid each other? Neuvilette has the right to judge the other archons. Of course Neuvilette has not met Venti, Ei, or Nahida yet, though he has already decided Nahida is innocent. Agree totally that something might be going on between Tsaritsa and Pierro all of which makes it possible why the travelers were “heavenly summoned” to Teyvat. Alchemy? Pierro was a royal Madge in King Irminsuls Court. The Travler lived with him for “a while”. Somewhere along the vague timeline he became head of the Fatui for the Tsaritsa? Had to be before 500 and the cataclysm. If Khaenri’ah fell and the cataclysm happened at 500, Pierro becoming the director of the Fatui and the Travlers descending to Treyvat would have to had been prior to 500. Love your videos! Looking forward to more! Keep up the good work!😊
Maybe the traveler is the descender that's meant to beat the sustainer after they come back from wherever they wanted to go so our beloved sustainer trapped them in order to stop the prophecy from coming to pass as they would not be able to leave and get the power they need to clap our beloved sustainer
May be she has some kind conection with mutara's mother if you do some research than may be we can find some answers
13:52 *cough* Dottore
I'm not so sure she's the pale princess.
So... Pierro is Rasputin?
nice
Someone said something about “her” being paimon and I was like holy shit why didn’t I think of that
I think that's unlikely for practical reasons. Like our Pause menu is the Paimon menu. I remember the brief few times when Paimon wasn't with the Traveler (like in the last Dains quest), that menu was unavailable. If Paimon was the Cryo archon, what will happen to our Pause menu?
Could it be gold or Skirks master that is the prince? Also, could gold and the foul one be the same person? It is just a gut feeling, but the idea of gold wanting to bring light and being close to the abyss, then being forced to watch Kanriah be destroyed turned for revenge.
Hi i love genshin impact
If Pierro was a master manipulator he'd have had his own opinion rule the day in Khaenri'ah. Pierro is more like nerd who gets it all correct but is ignored, because he's not good with people.
Pierro now is 500 years older (not really cause he's immortal) but 500 years is a long time prob not the same person
8:51 “ to be brought back to life by celestias foe” .. the third descender??
cause aren’t the harbingers / tsaritsa( celestias foe) collecting the gnosis to revive the 3rd descended?
archons already had a gnosis 500 years ago so don't think her prince is the 3rd descender
Him: Can archons have children?
Raiden Ei, Venti, and Zhongli:😅😅😅
(Raiden is Scaramouche's mom)
(Venti and Zhongli are Xiao's parents)
i think the prince is the 3d descender after all she is collecting his parts from the archons
so you think the prince was alive like 6000 plus years ago? if the pale princess book is based on to archons and Khaenri’ah destruction then they all had a gnosis long before that took place but if u think the princess is someone else long before the archons were even established then thats interesting who would you think it is?
@@TheGamerChronicles999 wow that a solid argument and don't have anything to say against it nice but i still don't thing we have any information about the prince but i still believe it should be 3d descender though i don't have any proof right now but we will have that in Natlem.
From my understanding the male mc is the canon protagonist one. Lumine is the canon sibling
Sorry if this comment comes off ruder than intended but was it ever actually stated that the cryo archon is the goddess of love? Because I was thinking about it and I'm pretty sure it was just a theory that sort of made sense and now all theory channels take it as gospol when talking about the cryo archon.
Also in the battle pass clip Venti actually states that it is about the traveler's story to be told, which is why everyone thinks the first crowned heir thinking she is the queen of the kingdom of darkness represents the Lumine as the abyss sibling traveling around teyvat first then falling to the abyss before the we start our journey.
yes in the Teyvat trailer she is the god of love same way venti is freedom or Zhongli is contracts
@@TheGamerChronicles999 I see. The travail trailer, the chapter preview one?
@Loopy2000 so its implied in that trailer since Dain mentions each attribute of the archons "justice, wisdom, contracts, ect" But for her he says "no love left" so unless this is pure lie by hoyoverse showing us black and saying its white this means she either abandoned her main ideal or just lost it like if venti didnt care about freedom anymore or straight up changed his ideal and was against freedom we're still.not sure 100% in the tsaritsa case but like I talked about in my cryo archon identity video it must be hard for her to go against her own ideal and be emotional pain for her, Does that make sense?
@@TheGamerChronicles999 Yes that does make sense, and thank you for taking the time to explain. I have watched the trailer but didn't think about that when commenting, I just remembered watching a theory video about her being the goddess of love a while ago. Also sorry again if any of my comments sound rude, I tend to word things poorly without realising it.
@Loopy2000 no problem at all! and your comments weren't rude in the slightest actually was a good question because the lore in the game and details can be sorta weird at times which is why I make videos in the first place so anytime 😊