There's a couple things you can do to make this more efficient if you wanted. I did this method, but I used an alt account to splash the gnome right next to the bank. I also kept the rogue's outfit on and since I was standing next to the bank, instead of dropping, I just deposited everything into the bank. Only deposit when you're stunned from pickpocketing. I was getting about 170k xp/hr, and about 9.5 med clues/hr.
I honestly like video's like these. Quite gamechaning updates that you explain really well. I'd like to stay up to date with all the updates, but I slack sometimes and video's like these help a lot. Keep it up kip!
A note on thieving! You can multiskill thieving with Artifact Thieving in Zeah. The wiki lists rates at 200,000xp/hr starting just over level 70, and because you have to teleport often you may as well teleport to the Hallowed Sepulchre bank between thieves and fill up on glass to blow. If you're saving up for the graceful recolor like me, you can just bring feathers, shafts, and broad arrowheads instead, or alchables.
Interesting! Why hallowed sepulchre bank specifically? I wonder if thieving artefacts is worthwhile for ironmen at 70 thieving considering they wouldn't normally have staminas by then
.66 of an efficient hour when u consider the 99 thieving soft requirement. Still a fire method though, i would like to see someone assess it from 90-99 thieving, still bound to save time surely if you dont have your rangers yet
@@idewmeth4203 yeah weve all heard jagex say that. Repeating doesnt make it true though, and stackable clues would still be a fun side thing. I get both sides wanting or not wanting it but that point really makes no sense.. if you enjoy doing your clues right away, you could still do that. I personally hate the interruption and would much prefer to set aside a larger chunk of time for clues.
Perhaps like ecumenical keys can have only 3 until you unlock some diary or the like. Yeah I've often skipped clues just gets in the way of what I'm doing 🙃
a master quest requiring making history, you use a new "locator key" to find new god artifacts you give to the museum, that would reward you with different beginner/common alignments, as well as a baby mimic that slurps up clues and can hold 100 of each clue
The only issue i have with the math is that the exp is worth 0 at 99 thieving. If you consider the exp as valuable, then you should use reduced exp rates for both methods. Maybe running the math for levels 75 when gnomes are unlocked, then 85 and 95 as progression milestones to show the curve. Great video as always!
Thanks for the info, I’m a lvl 3 uim and I wanted to know how it would be, any collection log would be awesome, I got the wolf mask on med clue 53 and after that I didn’t care much for meds but any new collection log slot will be nice after i max, still 4 skills to go
6:10 I would be surprised if it's actually the case, because in the wildy agility arena, the medium clue is dropped on the floor when your inventory is full
I tried them and thieved with full inv, only 12 times i got the message that my inv did not have space for all the loot and figured out you did not get a medium clue while full inv. Could not find any mention of that before you did in the vid.
Hello Mr. mudkip, I am wondering what your thoughts are on pickpocketing paladins for hard clues? The rate seemed quite low even after the change, but I understand the gp and chaos runes are nice (thinking about for an early-ish game ironman. I appreciate the video on gnomes
No idea, haven't looked into them at all. If the rate of hard clues is low I'd imagine it should be decent thieving xp/hr to offset that. If it's not hopefully they balance it so that it is. And thanks for watching!
11:49 The greatest assumption is that you're farming for both Thieving exp AND medium clue scrolls though. If you're actively focused on training Thieving (which is most often going to be the case) you're scaling with each level to an increased exp/hr. As you level up, that rate will be much better improved hour over hour at ardy knights than the much worse rate at Gnomes. Knights will also cap out early at 95. This method only makes sense for those who are actively farming only medium clue scrolls...but you also didn't factor in how many clue scrolls you obtain when you're not 99 thieving and failing much more often, especially cause you're comparing it to a non-thieving method of obtaining clue scrolls.
If someone isn't looking to get thieving xp and medium clues idk why they would watch a guide about getting thieving xp and med clues For your 2nd concern, I addressed that in the video at 6:25 saying it's not a worthwhile method before level 99
@@WildMudkip I'm simply answering why on a video titled "The new OSRS Thieving method no one is talking about" why no one is talking about it. It's not titled something like "The new best OSRS method for farming medium clues no one is talking about"
You know.. I was gonna change the video once I seen the req was 75 thieving but I didn't and I want to say good video 👍🏼 glad someone can do the math because I definitely cba 🤣
@WildMudkip was really hoping this would compete with implings... already 99 theiving so likely never touch it after i tested it for the hour.... I even tried to cheese it by wearing rogues but only keeping one inv spot open in hopes the first clue would go to Inv and second to the ground but nah... only way I'd consider it over implings is if it was no fail at 99 with cape
If you're an ironman idk if it's worth the time collecting resources to make gloves of silence compared to the amount of time it would save. But if you're a normal account then yeah
Only real players watch mudkip. So I have a question. Why sometimes am I able to run through the tornados and took no damage at CG but other times I get absolutely stacked? Thanks.
When you're running you're going 2 tiles at a time. But tornadoes only move 1 tile at a time. So sometimes the tornadoes are on the in-between tile that you're skipping over. The game doesn't register you being on in-between tiles when you're running
Wait wait wait... if the meta is to log out and wait for the game to get easier, but playing inefficiently is more efficient than logging out and not playing at all, what's the most efficient way for me to play?
I really wish this update was BEFORE I cuaght all those implings for 866 med clues for 1 pair of ranger boots xD Implings are some of the worst exp in the game.
Hiscore ranks for thieving, total xp, or ehp; or they could be going for the pet. This is a macroefficient method for ironman ehp and clues/hr that's better than doing those 2 separately. It's only sacrificing 4 clues/hr to get 150k thieving xp/hr
@@WildMudkip Yeah, i guess that makes sense, different boats for different folks, just not how i'm used to looking at xp i guess... Maybe i'll get it when i'm older ;P Also, thanks for replying ❤
I showed it comes out to 26% more efficient than doing other methods so I think it's balanced if they keep it this way, even if it wasn't the proposed rate. But also wouldn't be surprised if they buff it, especially for lower level thieving
@@WildMudkip iirc other multi-task skilling, like underwater thieving/fishing are 40%ish more efficient, so this would still be lacking at only 26% efficient as the precedent has been set on how efficient multi-task is
Interesting, forgot about the underwater method! Going by the assumption an ironman is a clogger and needs to get meds. The wiki lists underwater training as 39k agility and 142k thieving per hour. So as a comparison: 1 hour of underwater + 1hr eclectics: 39k agility, 142k thieving, 12 meds 2 hours gnomes: 300k thieving, 16 meds Agility is worth 100k xp/hr because of sepulchre, but then again the average player isn't gonna do sep and will just chill at ardy. Although on the other hand the kind of player that doesn't like sep probably wouldn't be getting efficient rates doing underwater thieving. Many variables to consider
I will never understand why OSRS guides focus entirely on maxed accounts. "Make sure you complete absolutely everything in the game before you bother doing anything" is such a common attitude. Why would I care about the XP/hr if I've already got 99 thieving?
I addressed that in the video. 6:25 Because this method isn't worth doing if you're not 99 thieving Most people don't quit the game when they max. In this case people could be going for hiscore ranks for thieving, total xp, or ehp; or they could be going for pets. And this is a macroefficient method for ehp and clues/hr that's better than doing those 2 separately
@@WildMudkip I'll admit, I'm more venting a general frustration than focusing on your video in particular, so that's unfair on you. It's just irritating trying to find out how to do content and being told "get a blowpipe before doing Zul'rah", "finish Morytania hard Diary before doing Barrows", "Finish Desert Hard before killing KQ", "Get 99's in all combat before doing any bossing". It's an attitude so common to the deeply entrenched OSRS players and makes the game insanely unattractive to newer community.
Osrs started as a backup of the game from 2007. And the idea was to start from that point and update it in a better direction than what happened (removing free trade, adding eoc, etc). it’s completely separate from runescape 3 which is the original game
"efficient hours played" is the most embarrassing term osrs has come up with. everyone pretending they competing for world class speedrun times when they absolutely are not. its a video game you literally play for fun. if youre not literally competing, or literally challenging yourself to speedrun the game(or that part of the game), and you are thinking about efficient hours played, get some fucking help.
When you have hundreds of thousands of players there's going to be plenty of different playstyles. Tick manipulation and whatnot is definitely not how the majority of players enjoy the game. But I'm confused, why's it a problem that some people enjoy that playstyle? It's meditative and calming for the people that play that way and the way they choose to play doesn't affect anyone else
@@WildMudkip because its a massive negative stigma surrounding the game as a whole. theres nothing wrong with the playstyle, just how people use it as a measure as right and wrong. as an example, you literally made suggestions in your video of what to do and what not to do because of your understanding of these stats. i have seen far too many players speak incredibly negatively about players who are "inefficient", without mentioning or probably even thinking about "fun". even outright making fun of or insulting them. you specifically made sure to mention the game is about fun, multiple times, as it should be. however the stigma exists because others do not, especially in an underhanded light. you appreciate the f2p player casting fire strike on goblins hunting beginner clues for 1200 clues, as do i, but that genuinely seems not to be the norm, and thus, my comment.
idk i feel like you should stop putting 99 theving as a recomendation if the activity is not worth doing without being 99 im almost instantly not intrested
And then all the comments complain and correct me that it’s not the requirement for the method. Perfect example that you can’t please everyone but I’m sorry you don’t like how I labeled the requirement I’m trying my best
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bro the math breakdown put my brain into a state of bliss, sick vid
Glad you liked the numbers :]
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seeing you open clue caskets feels wrong. put them back
>Mr Krabs making you unwatch the video
There's a couple things you can do to make this more efficient if you wanted. I did this method, but I used an alt account to splash the gnome right next to the bank. I also kept the rogue's outfit on and since I was standing next to the bank, instead of dropping, I just deposited everything into the bank. Only deposit when you're stunned from pickpocketing. I was getting about 170k xp/hr, and about 9.5 med clues/hr.
Nice strats! Did you notice anything lile was said in the vid that you can only get clues if you have inv space?
@@average-osrs-enjoyer I never tried, always just deposited into the bank!
I honestly like video's like these. Quite gamechaning updates that you explain really well. I'd like to stay up to date with all the updates, but I slack sometimes and video's like these help a lot. Keep it up kip!
Really appreciate it!
A note on thieving! You can multiskill thieving with Artifact Thieving in Zeah. The wiki lists rates at 200,000xp/hr starting just over level 70, and because you have to teleport often you may as well teleport to the Hallowed Sepulchre bank between thieves and fill up on glass to blow. If you're saving up for the graceful recolor like me, you can just bring feathers, shafts, and broad arrowheads instead, or alchables.
Interesting! Why hallowed sepulchre bank specifically? I wonder if thieving artefacts is worthwhile for ironmen at 70 thieving considering they wouldn't normally have staminas by then
Hallowed crystal shards = closest tele to a bank
But not much of a dropoff to sub for crafting cape/castle wars 😁
thank you so much for this best medium clue to grind for masters when im missing one
You should check out Heros next, they're 0.9 elites/hr and 190k+ theiving exp/hr
Fr? I kept hearing that their fail rate was too high still
@@Chris-cf6ul I was getting these rates with thieving cape, Ardy diary, dodging necklaces, shadow veil spell, and elite CAs
nice video! i think there is a plug in for clue scroll timers so you don't have to guess.
.66 of an efficient hour when u consider the 99 thieving soft requirement. Still a fire method though, i would like to see someone assess it from 90-99 thieving, still bound to save time surely if you dont have your rangers yet
Wish OSRS just would add in stacking clues, make it a reward from a master quest but it would be a huge quality of life udpate.
Hard disagree. Making clues stackable undermines the purpose and intended gameplay of a clue scroll. It's supposed to be a fun side-thing
@@idewmeth4203 yeah weve all heard jagex say that. Repeating doesnt make it true though, and stackable clues would still be a fun side thing.
I get both sides wanting or not wanting it but that point really makes no sense.. if you enjoy doing your clues right away, you could still do that. I personally hate the interruption and would much prefer to set aside a larger chunk of time for clues.
Perhaps like ecumenical keys can have only 3 until you unlock some diary or the like. Yeah I've often skipped clues just gets in the way of what I'm doing 🙃
a master quest requiring making history, you use a new "locator key" to find new god artifacts you give to the museum, that would reward you with different beginner/common alignments, as well as a baby mimic that slurps up clues and can hold 100 of each clue
I really hope they dont
The only issue i have with the math is that the exp is worth 0 at 99 thieving. If you consider the exp as valuable, then you should use reduced exp rates for both methods. Maybe running the math for levels 75 when gnomes are unlocked, then 85 and 95 as progression milestones to show the curve.
Great video as always!
Thanks for the info, I’m a lvl 3 uim and I wanted to know how it would be, any collection log would be awesome, I got the wolf mask on med clue 53 and after that I didn’t care much for meds but any new collection log slot will be nice after i max, still 4 skills to go
6:10 I would be surprised if it's actually the case, because in the wildy agility arena, the medium clue is dropped on the floor when your inventory is full
I tried them and thieved with full inv, only 12 times i got the message that my inv did not have space for all the loot and figured out you did not get a medium clue while full inv. Could not find any mention of that before you did in the vid.
Very informational, like a gnome documentary.
It's a very simple mathematical formula. I see a Mudkip video, I hit like.
Do we know if ghommal’s hilt impacts this drop rate? I may have missed it if you said it in the video
The newspost says combat achievement tiers do increase the clues from thieving gnomes. You don't need the hilt on you though
@@WildMudkip thanks dude!
Yeah ive tested some heros at 92 thieving and it seems alright for afk elites compared to grinding out sarac or raids for that quick master clue
Can confirm poro poro w/ new hour clue timer is about 12 meds an hour! it feels OP
there is a setting you can toggle that will put the earth runes directily into your pouch if you already have a stack in there
I have it on but that only works for picking up runes off the ground, or when runecrafting
Hello Mr. mudkip, I am wondering what your thoughts are on pickpocketing paladins for hard clues? The rate seemed quite low even after the change, but I understand the gp and chaos runes are nice (thinking about for an early-ish game ironman. I appreciate the video on gnomes
No idea, haven't looked into them at all. If the rate of hard clues is low I'd imagine it should be decent thieving xp/hr to offset that. If it's not hopefully they balance it so that it is. And thanks for watching!
It’s 0res from the other day, great vid too. “Love” bro 😂
Cheers mate x
11:49
The greatest assumption is that you're farming for both Thieving exp AND medium clue scrolls though.
If you're actively focused on training Thieving (which is most often going to be the case) you're scaling with each level to an increased exp/hr.
As you level up, that rate will be much better improved hour over hour at ardy knights than the much worse rate at Gnomes. Knights will also cap out early at 95.
This method only makes sense for those who are actively farming only medium clue scrolls...but you also didn't factor in how many clue scrolls you obtain when you're not 99 thieving and failing much more often, especially cause you're comparing it to a non-thieving method of obtaining clue scrolls.
If someone isn't looking to get thieving xp and medium clues idk why they would watch a guide about getting thieving xp and med clues
For your 2nd concern, I addressed that in the video at 6:25 saying it's not a worthwhile method before level 99
@@WildMudkip I'm simply answering why on a video titled "The new OSRS Thieving method no one is talking about" why no one is talking about it.
It's not titled something like "The new best OSRS method for farming medium clues no one is talking about"
@@eklipze7520 its algorothm title man... im sure you know that cmon
You know.. I was gonna change the video once I seen the req was 75 thieving but I didn't and I want to say good video 👍🏼 glad someone can do the math because I definitely cba 🤣
Ay thanks for still checking it out!
Can you do a similar video on paladins? This one was really helpful!! You get so many chaos runes and some hard clues
100% can confirm medium clues wont drop the to ground you get a message saying "you didnt have space in your inv for your drop"
Thanks for confirming! I wonder if they'll change that, I can't think if that would break some other methods in the game
@WildMudkip was really hoping this would compete with implings... already 99 theiving so likely never touch it after i tested it for the hour.... I even tried to cheese it by wearing rogues but only keeping one inv spot open in hopes the first clue would go to Inv and second to the ground but nah... only way I'd consider it over implings is if it was no fail at 99 with cape
Dude this is so much better than catching imps lol.
You're ignoring the hunter exp gained by catching implings in your comparison!
Finally something that isn’t Ardy Knight or Pyramid Plunder
Is there a way to make left click default to pickpocket and not talk on mobile?
I like these game change update videos
You maxed the GIM? No spoiler warning
So like on my 30 def acc. I cant do ardy hard. Should i use gloves of silence + shadow veil + dodgy?
If you're an ironman idk if it's worth the time collecting resources to make gloves of silence compared to the amount of time it would save. But if you're a normal account then yeah
Hopefully menu entry swapper is added into the mobile client they had on beta a few months ago
Good Thieving method. Step 1, put on your max cape. ???
Wouldn’t the clue rate be changed for the better with medium combat achievements?
Right, so in that case you could expect 8.4 clues/hr rather than 8
now all we need is stackable clue scrolls!
Just stealing from gnomes and eating worms, hell yea!
Only real players watch mudkip. So I have a question. Why sometimes am I able to run through the tornados and took no damage at CG but other times I get absolutely stacked? Thanks.
When you're running you're going 2 tiles at a time. But tornadoes only move 1 tile at a time. So sometimes the tornadoes are on the in-between tile that you're skipping over. The game doesn't register you being on in-between tiles when you're running
@@WildMudkip knew this was the right place to ask :) thanks!
Wait wait wait... if the meta is to log out and wait for the game to get easier, but playing inefficiently is more efficient than logging out and not playing at all, what's the most efficient way for me to play?
Uhh uhhh gtg grab my chips and uhhhh i didn't see that well!
You sound like the guy from proper people exploring channel 👀
I went there after the first update with 90 Thieving but no dodgy/veil, and was soooo not worth it lol be lucky for 2 pickpokets per minute lol
I really wish this update was BEFORE I cuaght all those implings for 866 med clues for 1 pair of ranger boots xD
Implings are some of the worst exp in the game.
Found this and ranted to my clan on update day about it lol.
but why would thieving xp be worth anything if you are already 99?
Hiscore ranks for thieving, total xp, or ehp; or they could be going for the pet. This is a macroefficient method for ironman ehp and clues/hr that's better than doing those 2 separately. It's only sacrificing 4 clues/hr to get 150k thieving xp/hr
@@WildMudkip Yeah, i guess that makes sense, different boats for different folks, just not how i'm used to looking at xp i guess... Maybe i'll get it when i'm older ;P
Also, thanks for replying ❤
I gotta grab my chips and dip!
3:55 There is a setting in the game that you can use to drop any item with shift click
How did he know about my stash
Everyone was talking about it and how they don't meet the proposed rates at all
I showed it comes out to 26% more efficient than doing other methods so I think it's balanced if they keep it this way, even if it wasn't the proposed rate. But also wouldn't be surprised if they buff it, especially for lower level thieving
@@WildMudkip iirc other multi-task skilling, like underwater thieving/fishing are 40%ish more efficient, so this would still be lacking at only 26% efficient as the precedent has been set on how efficient multi-task is
Interesting, forgot about the underwater method! Going by the assumption an ironman is a clogger and needs to get meds. The wiki lists underwater training as 39k agility and 142k thieving per hour. So as a comparison:
1 hour of underwater + 1hr eclectics: 39k agility, 142k thieving, 12 meds
2 hours gnomes: 300k thieving, 16 meds
Agility is worth 100k xp/hr because of sepulchre, but then again the average player isn't gonna do sep and will just chill at ardy. Although on the other hand the kind of player that doesn't like sep probably wouldn't be getting efficient rates doing underwater thieving. Many variables to consider
"NOBODY is talking about this new method!"
*Recommendations: Thieving Cape*
gee wonder why no ones talked about it yet lol
I just thought this would help some people out because I didn't see any videos or reddit posts on this method yet sorry if I wasted your time
Holy crap dude your almost 800m xp 😮
I will never understand why OSRS guides focus entirely on maxed accounts. "Make sure you complete absolutely everything in the game before you bother doing anything" is such a common attitude.
Why would I care about the XP/hr if I've already got 99 thieving?
I addressed that in the video. 6:25 Because this method isn't worth doing if you're not 99 thieving
Most people don't quit the game when they max. In this case people could be going for hiscore ranks for thieving, total xp, or ehp; or they could be going for pets. And this is a macroefficient method for ehp and clues/hr that's better than doing those 2 separately
@@WildMudkip I'll admit, I'm more venting a general frustration than focusing on your video in particular, so that's unfair on you. It's just irritating trying to find out how to do content and being told "get a blowpipe before doing Zul'rah", "finish Morytania hard Diary before doing Barrows", "Finish Desert Hard before killing KQ", "Get 99's in all combat before doing any bossing".
It's an attitude so common to the deeply entrenched OSRS players and makes the game insanely unattractive to newer community.
Is OSRS still considered OSRS or is it like a newer version of RS with OSRS graphics?
Osrs started as a backup of the game from 2007. And the idea was to start from that point and update it in a better direction than what happened (removing free trade, adding eoc, etc). it’s completely separate from runescape 3 which is the original game
thanks bruh
yay
nice vid :)
title made me click
No one is talking about it because it's already iron/dead content lmfao
How could you have come to that conclusion unless somebody talked about it?
"efficient hours played" is the most embarrassing term osrs has come up with. everyone pretending they competing for world class speedrun times when they absolutely are not. its a video game you literally play for fun. if youre not literally competing, or literally challenging yourself to speedrun the game(or that part of the game), and you are thinking about efficient hours played, get some fucking help.
When you have hundreds of thousands of players there's going to be plenty of different playstyles. Tick manipulation and whatnot is definitely not how the majority of players enjoy the game. But I'm confused, why's it a problem that some people enjoy that playstyle? It's meditative and calming for the people that play that way and the way they choose to play doesn't affect anyone else
@@WildMudkip because its a massive negative stigma surrounding the game as a whole. theres nothing wrong with the playstyle, just how people use it as a measure as right and wrong. as an example, you literally made suggestions in your video of what to do and what not to do because of your understanding of these stats. i have seen far too many players speak incredibly negatively about players who are "inefficient", without mentioning or probably even thinking about "fun". even outright making fun of or insulting them. you specifically made sure to mention the game is about fun, multiple times, as it should be. however the stigma exists because others do not, especially in an underhanded light. you appreciate the f2p player casting fire strike on goblins hunting beginner clues for 1200 clues, as do i, but that genuinely seems not to be the norm, and thus, my comment.
idk i feel like you should stop putting 99 theving as a recomendation if the activity is not worth doing without being 99 im almost instantly not intrested
And then all the comments complain and correct me that it’s not the requirement for the method. Perfect example that you can’t please everyone but I’m sorry you don’t like how I labeled the requirement I’m trying my best
@@WildMudkip all is forgiving all I request is a shiny mudkip as compensation for my pain and suffering
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