I've now taken the EcoFlow Delta Max on a road trip to test the fast charging setup with the inverter and made a video which you can watch here > ruclips.net/video/7Bd1C9sP7GU/видео.htmlsi=-wIj9tA8SZ8haJfF
Thanks for this awesome video and information , today I did it and it’s working man . I have delta eco flow pro 3600 wh and I brought rengoy 3000 w after watch your videos . And 4 gauge and no fues is required as this inverter has set fues inside . Eco flow delta pro ev charging but again I have find ev station and most time free one packed and not working . But now I not need it I can charging while I’m driving . So I did it man it working .awesome ❤
Just a safety tip. Please add a fuse at the battery terminal to protect your power cable to the inverter. If something should pinch the cable it would be a direct short to ground and could start a fire and you have no way to disconnect the cable from the battery. Unless you have an Axe. :) Or something in the inverter shorts.
I haven’t checked out the latest video on this yet, but I wouldn’t use this approach. High cost for the copper wire to safely run it back to the inverter, and risk of inverter stressing the alternator, especially those of us using a stock alternator, having accessories running (fridge, lights, wipers, heat, winch, etc.) at the same time. I’ve opted to go with using a DC - DC charger that does 12-24V boost, and limited to 30 A draw on alternator (as it senses when engine is running) and having it feed into solar port (which is activated 12-60v, and limited to 500W). I keep the Victron DC DC converter in engine bay, and because my amps from it to the Ecoflow are only 15 or less (since at 24V) I can use a much smaller gauge of wire. Granted this is half of the W this video is showing, but I think a safer option than having a burned out alternator on the trail, or a dead main battery)
It’s not cheap bro , Victorn 218 Canadian dollar plus ring wire 30 Canadian dollars , plus 6 awg wire 90 dollars , fuse , crick breaker and so many wire connection and still car need inverter for some appliances , and victim using solar connections for dc to dc charger which not good , as missing solar charging , I brought victorn and Ii have return still validate after watch this dude im going to return dc to dc victron , so many wiring and complicated
Second thing three way utilities like inverter can be use only use heavy appliances , solar charging , direct ac charging which better than victron only for charging
Just the video I needed. Was looking at the ecoflow for a van conversion. I don't want to do the classic running tons of cables around to a leisure battery, just a nice easy system. Cheers
This is an excellent use for an inverter. 99% of people keep using these to go from a house battery to appliances, which is fine, but using a powerstation as your intermediary makes WAY more sense.
Thanks, you just solidified my decision to get the Delta Max, I was thinking of other ways I can charge it while I am out on the road and I am pretty happy I stumbled on your video.
Thank you for sharing this guide. It dkes how how versatile the Delta Max is. Even if it is plugged into a car, it can still fully charge in a couple of hours.
I just buy yesterday the EcoFlow Delta 2 ( December 2023) next step is the regony 1000watts .. after the installation... I m gonna fallow you r information... thank s
your inverter is pulling 67amps for the 800W output from the inverter, make sure your alternator can handle that output at idle, there maybe nothing left from the output to actually charge your start battery, since you are not using anything to make sure your start battery is fully charged, something like above 12.6V once started
Following some testing which will be in an upcoming video, I'm running it at 600W which seems to be the sweet spot. I do have a battery isolator on board so the starter battery gets recharged after starting before the isolator switches the alternator output to the second battery and inverter.
The inverter says it accepts 11-15v so I guess this will work. I wonder what limits your Alternator from being stressed too much? IS this why some invest in a high output alternator? I hope all this worked out for you. I will watch your follow up video below to see what the outcome.
From my own experience of exposed switches. Glue or screw a short tube over the remote switch or add a electrical box, custom box,etc so the inverter doesn't get accidentally bumped on/off by something moving around in the back of your car. I've got an 80 series and that the same route I use for my wiring. To the rear. Seems like that expected it. 800w(67amp@12v) is a lot of strain on the alternator. Make sure you are moving along with good airflow if you are pulling that much through it.
@@ExpeditionAustralia spot on. That's a good setting. Keep an eye on your earth lead for the inverter too. That may need snugging down a bit more. If you end up with a fire in that area you would lose your rig. You did a good job on the install. I'd be happy with that.
@Westcoastrocksduh it can handle it because it’s actually a 3000w dc to dc converter from the 400v battery to the 12v. With that said, I got the 2000w inverter and it was HUGE. I’ve decided to go with 1500w instead.
Let me share a little secret with you that I learned from a guy who designs inverters. If you run long DC cables to your power station you will have a huge inefficiency loss. The length of the cables introduce a lot of resistance in the line. However if you mount the inverters DC input cables as close to the car battery as possible the inverter will have much less resistance in the line and will be much more efficient. That's how they are designed. Now, on the AC end of your inverter you can plug in your AC cord and run that to the back of your power station. He said that is why power companies don't use DC electricity in your home. DC power does not travel very far because the wire itself is a resistive load. However you can run AC for miles without much line loss. This whole conversation started when I asked him why my old 300w inverter wasn't working. Long story short I followed his instructions. I shortened my DC wires and mounted my inverter next to the battery. I ran the AC plug out to the distant location. Bam in worked like A charm. I had thought for several years my 300 watt inverter was blown but it wasn't. It was simply a matter of correct wiring. Hope this helps. Cheers!
Thanks. Makes sense. In my case there isn't anywhere closer to the car battery that I can mount it easily. It's also worth keeping in mind that if you mount the inverter near the car battery and run a longer AC cable to the back of the car you need to make 100% sure the AC cable is well shielded and protected from damage because if it is cut on a sharp corner and makes contact with the car body you'll have 240v instead of 12v which won't be pretty!
I have a Bluetti AC180 and I installed a 1500 watt ac inverter in my van to fast charge my Bluetti. I grounded the ac inverter to the vehicle body and the power stations ground port. I get a ground fault and it will Not charge. It also does it with my EB3A. But I can charge my other power stations with a brick dc charger. What am I doing wrong. I am using 1 gauge battery jumper cable which is more than large enough.
I have starter battery going to secondary marine battery with isolater charging my Delta1300. I never can kill my starter battery and charge when van not running too. Hehe my solar died.
This is quite nice. I think I will do the same for my RV and hopefully come up with the same result. Charging my Delta Max quickly in less than 2 hours.
Hi mate, go and grab a100/120 amp fuse and put it directly between the positive terminal of your auxiliary battery and the lead before you end up cooking your next meal off the flames coming from your car 😮😮😮
Great Video, I will be installing an inverter into my 2020 Rav4. It has a 130 Amp alternator so I will be getting at 1500 Watt inverter. My question is do you think that getting a 2/0 or 00 gauge wire should be enough to provide the 1500 watts to the inverter which is going to be about 6 meters away. why didn't you ground the inverter to the negative terminal of the battery ? Thanks again for the video.
Great video! Is this only practical if you have a dual battery configuration? Not sure if I can run the inverter with just the 1 battery. I am looking at charging the power station via the alternator on my battery via DC to DC boost converter but of course this method is much faster!
I would like to have my solar panels charging the ecoflow and have my alternator charging eco flow via another port, so I dont have to remember to swap cables between solar and inverter. What other ports can I use for the alternator and what components would I need. I cant find a video about this.
Great video, looking fwd to seeing you doing videos while travelling again. Id suggest checking the OHMs value between the inverter negative terminal and the battery negative terminal. Typically the results will be less than impressive. Id suggest running a new cable back to the battery.
Thanks for your feedback Phillip. What would I gain by running the negative back to the battery? I would have thought that if connecting to the body where I have wasn’t good enough, I could connect to the chassis under the floor. The batteries both earth directly to the chassis.
@@ExpeditionAustralia a multimeter will show you the Ohms value going back to the battery. Higher the resistance, the harder its working. The multimeter will show you if my comment is valid. I dont know your background, if you need further help performing the test reach out.
Trying to work out how I would measure it when they are 4 metres apart. If I use a long wire to extent the multimeter probe wire will that affect the result?
@@ExpeditionAustralia take a measurement of the test leads and test wire. Deduct it from the final result. You are looking for a result as close to 0.1ohms as possible. After 1.0ohm id be installing a 2nd cable to feed the inverter.
Did this work out for you in the long run? I decided to get the same inverter for my delta max 2000. The yellow light that indicates a ground fault error comes on as soon as I plug in my delta max and it stops putting out power.
I think that 10 or 9 meter length you references is round trip though isnt it? Including both the positive and the negative, so that cuts your length in half, and when you run that long it has more voltage drop. How has this set up been working for you? How long do you charge that battery for? Or how long do you use this thing at a time for and how many watts? Do you ever feel the cable to see if it is warm? I bought a 2000 watt inverter and decided to go with 00 gauge wire since it is running 12 feet(24 feeet) and I want to run 600 watts for hours at a time. what do you think? Thanks!
Good evening..I am trying to charge an ecoflow delta max 2000 with a TBE Pure Sine Car Inverter 2000W and it does not charge..do you know what could be wrong? Thank you very much
@@ExpeditionAustralia can I suggest you work out your amp draw and fuse accordingly. Nothing worse than a burnt down 4wd when you could prevent it with a fuse at the battery. I see you have used split corro to protect the cable, but what protects the car if it does accidentally get shorted out? A fuse. It's cheap insurance. Great videos, keep them coming 👍
I see you touching that negative while it is on, is that safe? And if so is that because it is only 12volt?(doesnt matter how much energy is running through it?), would touching the positive be safe too(not the insulated part, but the non insulated part). Thanks, I am in the process of learning more about electricity, especially car electricity.
My thoughts exactly. I would hate to have 240V live in my vehicle while travelling along outback corrugations. The MPPT controller in the unit should be able to draw from the alternator at maximum charge rate that solar could provide. After all, the MPPT only needs to take the 14.2V alternator voltage and regulate it to maybe 14.4V for the battery.
Still working well so no changes to the install. I’ve dialled the charging back to 600w to balance the load on the alternator. I do have a follow up video to come - just need to get it edited!!
@@ExpeditionAustralia I purchased 2- 1000 watt inverters for the delta pro so far the first did not work. Tomorrow I will try another brand does the inverter need to push out 240v to power the delta pro?
How has the Battery you are using with Inverter? I added an extra 150 AH - 2 pcs. 12 volt gel - deep cycle , found the 1000 watt inverter getting hot ,Is this normal?
Any issues yet? I noticed that you set the Ecoflow to 800 watts, and I'm assuming that that old range is equipped with a 60 or 70 amp. That's means that your alternator is only putting out like 900 watts at peak efficiency, probably closer to 500 while at idle. That doesn't leave you with a huge buffer to recharge the car battery or even run the ignition system and the lights.
I took it out on a 3 day camping trip and ended up dialling it back to 600W as the alternator was struggling to deliver 800W to the inverter and keep charging the deep cycle battery. The inverter kept beeping and I could see the voltage meter on the dash was pretty low. At 600W it worked perfectly with no beeping and normal volts on the dash gauge. Charged the Delta Max from about 30% to 90% in under 3 hours of driving. When I replace the old deep cycle battery with a 100AH lithium I should be able to crank the inverter back up to 700W or 800W as the lithium will charge properly and stop drawing power from the alternator.
Hi Steve I love your videos very educational. Mate I have a question. With Solar Panels would you connect them directly to the Delta Max or go through the aux battery and then the the inverter. In this way the Aux Battery is charged both from the Alternator and the Solar Panel . Would love your thoughts. Thanks Keith
Thanks Keith. You would connect the solar panels directly to the Delta Max and you can also charge from the inverter via AC port at the same time. If you’ve got the solar mounted on the roof of your car/van it will trickle charge constantly then the inverter will add more charge while you’re driving. This is the setup I’ll end up with.
@@ExpeditionAustralia yeah I just purchased 2 x 250 watt cheap Solar Panels all spec looked ok A grade etc. but the best I could get out of them was 100 watts each. So they are going back. Then I thought if the Panels were connected directly to the Aux Battery I would be able to use the 1500 watt inverter (still coming) to charge more quickly more often with both Solar and Alternator keeping the Aux Battery topped up. However if I go with your suggestion it saves me having to by a dcdc or mppt controller. As far as the inverter is concerned is bigger better. My Aux is 130a/h AGM is there a limit as to how much power I can draw from it ? Thanks Again
I would guess the problem is your solar panels can't really deliver close the output they're rated at or the conditions on the day were not ideal. Plugging them directly into the Delta Max is the most direct path with the least loss of power. If you run through the aux battery > inverter you'll lose power along the way. I've managed to get 300W out of the EcoFlow 400W panel so far running it directly to the Delta Max even on a mid winter day with the sun low in the sky so it should get pretty close to the rated 400W in ideal conditions which tells me that good quality solar panels like the EcoFlow work in the right conditions. They don't come cheap though unfortunately.
@@ExpeditionAustralia I understand I was looking to have a fixed system on the roof of my Ranger Dual Cab. So eco 400 watts system is not really applicable.
Yep they're more of a portable option. It shows that good quality panels work though. See if you can get your $$$ back for the cheaper one's and spend a bit more on a quality brand.
I am a bit confused, so pls clear the following. You have a dual battery set up? The two batteries are in parallel, still 12V. What's their chemistry? And you hooked the inverter straight to the 2ndary battery? And you are able to draw from it 600W? Where or how does your car's alternator come into this?
Dual batteries, both lead acid, that are isolated from each other via an isolator. After you start the engine the isolator sends all alternator output to starter battery until its charged then switches to second battery, usually only takes a few seconds. Now second battery is getting full charge from alternator. I've run the cable to the inverter from the second battery which is effectively coming from the alternator as they are on the same circuit. So the power for the inverter is coming from the alternator when the engine is running but would be coming from the second battery if the engine wasn't running. I don't turn the inverter on unless the engine is running.
if you had a single car battery set up like most vehicles could you feed the alternator straight to the inverter or would you need some controller in between?@@ExpeditionAustralia
Hi. Thanks for your videos. Any update on this please? It's still working fine? On my actual 2000w invertor installed in my van the ecoflow will not charge (maybe because my invertor is not a pure sine wave? 🤔) so I'm planning to buy a renogy pure sine invertor I think 2000w will be enough to recharge my ecoflow delta 2 as I'm driving 2-3 hours each day I think it will be perfect to recharge it to 100% . Any suggestions before purchasing my new invertor? Look forward to hearing from you. Best wishes
Hi Cornel, I do have a follow up video in the works where I test it out but to save you waiting, I found that the setup worked best if I dialled the EcoFlow down to 600W draw from the inverter while I'm driving. Any more than this and it overloaded the alternator and the inverter would start beeping to let me know it wasn't getting enough power. While I'm driving, the alternator is also recharging the second battery in my car which is old and tired and struggles to reach full charge so this could be drawing more power from the alternator than a new battery would. I'll probably upgrade the second battery to a lithium which will reach full charge quickly and so all of the alternators charge can go to the inverter > Ecoflow. If you have a higher output alternator than I do then you should be able to dial up the power the EcoFlow draws and charge faster.
@@ExpeditionAustralia thank you for quick response. Funny watching your videos with the burger cooked. Haha great 😉 definitely I had in mind to keep it to a lower charge rate as I only use 50% of my delta 2 so should be enough to recharge while driving back from work. Will search for your other videos. Like and subscribed 😉🙏🏻👌🏻👏🏻
Hello, I will be installing an inverter into my 2020 Rav4. It has a 130 Amp alternator so I will be getting at 1500 Watt inverter. My question is do you think that getting a 2/0 or 00 gauge wire should be enough to provide the 1500 watts to the inverter which is going to be about 6 meters away. Should I ground the inverters negative terminal to the battery or the body ? Thanks for the help.
These videos were a great inspiration to get me started. I just added a 2000W inverter to power my ecoflow delta 2 max. I get a comfortable 1100w -1200w at idle on a Ford Bronco. My ecoflow does trip the inverter unless use a power plug with the ground removed (going from the inverter to the ecoflow). For the inverter power, I have 2/0 guage wire for both negative and positive going to the batter with a 250A breaker and 500A relay.
Not sure what amps my alternator is. It's the standard one that came with engine 1HD-T turbo diesel. New video now up where I put it to the test > ruclips.net/video/7Bd1C9sP7GU/видео.html
@@ExpeditionAustralia Any problems with them over-heating? I'm looking at getting a 1000w inverter, but concerned about it needing to supply 750w to my power station continuous for up to 2 hours. That's a long time...
Not too much. I’m able to dial down the power that the Ecoflow pulls for charging to balance the load on the alternator. Check out my more recent video ‘Road trip charging test’ for more info.
@ExpeditionAustralia I ordered a ecoflow delta 3 plus with the alternator charger cost a little over $900 for both. Still waiting for it to ship it was preorder but also have 700w renogy inverter. I'm going to try charging with inverter just to see how it works. I'm sure it can charge at 600w I have run a heat gun on low setting with it which is more than 600w
I am having difficuty understanding why you would want to go from 12v DC to 120v AC to charge your Delta Pro so you can get either AC or DC from it....??? Why not use a less expensive Victron Energy Orion 12/24-Volt 20 amp DC-DC Converter Non-Isolated, High Power that you can set to output 30v and charge it that way through the Solar Port? Shoot you could get away with 10AWG wire - using higher voltage and keep the amps down. There are lots of howto videos on here covering that combination. I am all for having an inverter under the hood so you can use a vehicle as a kind of emergency A/C generator, but that is a different story.
To be honest I didn’t look at that option. The AC charging option looked good so I went with it and it works. I still have the option to add solar panels on the roof and charge from them as well. Your option may well be the best but I’d need to do a side by side comparison so see the pros and cons.
I've now taken the EcoFlow Delta Max on a road trip to test the fast charging setup with the inverter and made a video which you can watch here > ruclips.net/video/7Bd1C9sP7GU/видео.htmlsi=-wIj9tA8SZ8haJfF
Thanks for this awesome video and information , today I did it and it’s working man . I have delta eco flow pro 3600 wh and I brought rengoy 3000 w after watch your videos . And 4 gauge and no fues is required as this inverter has set fues inside . Eco flow delta pro ev charging but again I have find ev station and most time free one packed and not working . But now I not need it I can charging while I’m driving . So I did it man it working .awesome ❤
Just a safety tip. Please add a fuse at the battery terminal to protect your power cable to the inverter. If something should pinch the cable it would be a direct short to ground and could start a fire and you have no way to disconnect the cable from the battery. Unless you have an Axe. :) Or something in the inverter shorts.
not just a tip thats a must a large 100 plus amp cable like that will be a massive fire hazard
Yes please follow the manufacturers fuse size and install as close as you can to the battery.
@@moreboost100a or 50a
@@MegaRyan123456 do you think relying on one of those breaker style circuits is sufficient? or add a fuse in addition to that?
@@jonathankuhn2180
A good quality breaker is fine
I haven’t checked out the latest video on this yet, but I wouldn’t use this approach. High cost for the copper wire to safely run it back to the inverter, and risk of inverter stressing the alternator, especially those of us using a stock alternator, having accessories running (fridge, lights, wipers, heat, winch, etc.) at the same time. I’ve opted to go with using a DC - DC charger that does 12-24V boost, and limited to 30 A draw on alternator (as it senses when engine is running) and having it feed into solar port (which is activated 12-60v, and limited to 500W). I keep the Victron DC DC converter in engine bay, and because my amps from it to the Ecoflow are only 15 or less (since at 24V) I can use a much smaller gauge of wire. Granted this is half of the W this video is showing, but I think a safer option than having a burned out alternator on the trail, or a dead main battery)
It’s not cheap bro , Victorn 218 Canadian dollar plus ring wire 30 Canadian dollars , plus 6 awg wire 90 dollars , fuse , crick breaker and so many wire connection and still car need inverter for some appliances , and victim using solar connections for dc to dc charger which not good , as missing solar charging , I brought victorn and Ii have return still validate after watch this dude im going to return dc to dc victron , so many wiring and complicated
Second thing three way utilities like inverter can be use only use heavy appliances , solar charging , direct ac charging which better than victron only for charging
@@Rj-22 you don't make any sense at all
@@Rj-22 what language are you speaking?
I was going to do the same to charge a 200V2. Could you specify which DC to DC inverter?
Just the video I needed. Was looking at the ecoflow for a van conversion. I don't want to do the classic running tons of cables around to a leisure battery, just a nice easy system. Cheers
Great video. With the inverter installed, it's like the Delta Max is plugged into an AC outlet and can be charged alao quickly in less than two hours.
This is an excellent use for an inverter. 99% of people keep using these to go from a house battery to appliances, which is fine, but using a powerstation as your intermediary makes WAY more sense.
Thanks, you just solidified my decision to get the Delta Max, I was thinking of other ways I can charge it while I am out on the road and I am pretty happy I stumbled on your video.
Thank you for sharing this guide. It dkes how how versatile the Delta Max is. Even if it is plugged into a car, it can still fully charge in a couple of hours.
VERY GOOD INSTALLATION. thas the set up I m gonna make with my EcoFlow DELTA 2 in the Tacoma. Thank you
I am very impressed that Ecoflow was able to squeeze in 2016Wh of capacity into that rather small power station.
I just buy yesterday the EcoFlow Delta 2 ( December 2023) next step is the regony 1000watts .. after the installation... I m gonna fallow you r information... thank s
Great video mate, very easy to understand 👍
I have done a very similar mod for my power station for the same reason.
Yes good idea! I have my inverter too in the truck for the River 2 Pro :D
your inverter is pulling 67amps for the 800W output from the inverter, make sure your alternator can handle that output at idle, there maybe nothing left from the output to actually charge your start battery, since you are not using anything to make sure your start battery is fully charged, something like above 12.6V once started
Following some testing which will be in an upcoming video, I'm running it at 600W which seems to be the sweet spot. I do have a battery isolator on board so the starter battery gets recharged after starting before the isolator switches the alternator output to the second battery and inverter.
Sweet, I have the 500W inverter which I’ll try out on the Bluetti.
The inverter says it accepts 11-15v so I guess this will work. I wonder what limits your Alternator from being stressed too much? IS this why some invest in a high output alternator? I hope all this worked out for you. I will watch your follow up video below to see what the outcome.
From my own experience of exposed switches. Glue or screw a short tube over the remote switch or add a electrical box, custom box,etc so the inverter doesn't get accidentally bumped on/off by something moving around in the back of your car. I've got an 80 series and that the same route I use for my wiring. To the rear. Seems like that expected it.
800w(67amp@12v) is a lot of strain on the alternator. Make sure you are moving along with good airflow if you are pulling that much through it.
Thanks for the tip. I’ve made a more recent video where I road tested it and settled on 600w which was the sweet spot.
@@ExpeditionAustralia spot on. That's a good setting. Keep an eye on your earth lead for the inverter too. That may need snugging down a bit more. If you end up with a fire in that area you would lose your rig.
You did a good job on the install. I'd be happy with that.
Great Job. Nice real life install.
Thinking about doing exactly this in my Jeep Wrangler 4xe, but with a 1500w or 2000w inverter. Thanks for the great video.
@Westcoastrocksduh it can handle it because it’s actually a 3000w dc to dc converter from the 400v battery to the 12v. With that said, I got the 2000w inverter and it was HUGE. I’ve decided to go with 1500w instead.
@@davidcarrico3385they don’t come with factory inverters? My hybrid minivan has an OEM pure sine 1500watt
@ unfortunately the ‘21 through ‘23 models did not (‘24 and newer JL’s come with an accessory you use once parked).
@@davidcarrico3385 wow all that battery capacity and they don’t let you use it inside the vehicle while driving.
Let me share a little secret with you that I learned from a guy who designs inverters. If you run long DC cables to your power station you will have a huge inefficiency loss. The length of the cables introduce a lot of resistance in the line. However if you mount the inverters DC input cables as close to the car battery as possible the inverter will have much less resistance in the line and will be much more efficient. That's how they are designed. Now, on the AC end of your inverter you can plug in your AC cord and run that to the back of your power station. He said that is why power companies don't use DC electricity in your home. DC power does not travel very far because the wire itself is a resistive load. However you can run AC for miles without much line loss. This whole conversation started when I asked him why my old 300w inverter wasn't working. Long story short I followed his instructions. I shortened my DC wires and mounted my inverter next to the battery. I ran the AC plug out to the distant location. Bam in worked like A charm. I had thought for several years my 300 watt inverter was blown but it wasn't. It was simply a matter of correct wiring. Hope this helps. Cheers!
Thanks. Makes sense. In my case there isn't anywhere closer to the car battery that I can mount it easily. It's also worth keeping in mind that if you mount the inverter near the car battery and run a longer AC cable to the back of the car you need to make 100% sure the AC cable is well shielded and protected from damage because if it is cut on a sharp corner and makes contact with the car body you'll have 240v instead of 12v which won't be pretty!
I have a Bluetti AC180 and I installed a 1500 watt ac inverter in my van to fast charge my Bluetti. I grounded the ac inverter to the vehicle body and the power stations ground port. I get a ground fault and it will Not charge. It also does it with my EB3A. But I can charge my other power stations with a brick dc charger. What am I doing wrong. I am using 1 gauge battery jumper cable which is more than large enough.
Nice clean car.
I have starter battery going to secondary marine battery with isolater charging my Delta1300. I never can kill my starter battery and charge when van not running too. Hehe my solar died.
Will performing this operation with modified sine damage the device?
This is quite nice. I think I will do the same for my RV and hopefully come up with the same result. Charging my Delta Max quickly in less than 2 hours.
why couldn't you install the inverter closer to the battery and run an extension cord at 120volt to the load?
You could do that. I didn’t because I had no easy place to install it closer to the battery. It’s working fine where it is.
Hello. Really best video for Eco flow Delta charge . By the way when engine stop disconnect automatically or manually off the switch? Thank You
Hi mate, go and grab a100/120 amp fuse and put it directly between the positive terminal of your auxiliary battery and the lead before you end up cooking your next meal off the flames coming from your car 😮😮😮
Great Video, I will be installing an inverter into my 2020 Rav4. It has a 130 Amp alternator so I will be getting at 1500 Watt inverter. My question is do you think that getting a 2/0 or 00 gauge wire should be enough to provide the 1500 watts to the inverter which is going to be about 6 meters away. why didn't you ground the inverter to the negative terminal of the battery ? Thanks again for the video.
How is your installation going? I am planning to install a 2000w inverter for my 2022 rav4 hybrid.
Great video! Is this only practical if you have a dual battery configuration? Not sure if I can run the inverter with just the 1 battery. I am looking at charging the power station via the alternator on my battery via DC to DC boost converter but of course this method is much faster!
I would like to have my solar panels charging the ecoflow and have my alternator charging eco flow via another port, so I dont have to remember to swap cables between solar and inverter. What other ports can I use for the alternator and what components would I need. I cant find a video about this.
Great video, looking fwd to seeing you doing videos while travelling again. Id suggest checking the OHMs value between the inverter negative terminal and the battery negative terminal. Typically the results will be less than impressive. Id suggest running a new cable back to the battery.
Thanks for your feedback Phillip. What would I gain by running the negative back to the battery? I would have thought that if connecting to the body where I have wasn’t good enough, I could connect to the chassis under the floor. The batteries both earth directly to the chassis.
@@ExpeditionAustralia a multimeter will show you the Ohms value going back to the battery. Higher the resistance, the harder its working. The multimeter will show you if my comment is valid. I dont know your background, if you need further help performing the test reach out.
Trying to work out how I would measure it when they are 4 metres apart. If I use a long wire to extent the multimeter probe wire will that affect the result?
@@ExpeditionAustralia take a measurement of the test leads and test wire. Deduct it from the final result. You are looking for a result as close to 0.1ohms as possible. After 1.0ohm id be installing a 2nd cable to feed the inverter.
Did this work out for you in the long run?
I decided to get the same inverter for my delta max 2000. The yellow light that indicates a ground fault error comes on as soon as I plug in my delta max and it stops putting out power.
There’s a small connection on the front of the inverter for ground.. use a wire to a strong ground point in the car
I think that 10 or 9 meter length you references is round trip though isnt it? Including both the positive and the negative, so that cuts your length in half, and when you run that long it has more voltage drop. How has this set up been working for you? How long do you charge that battery for? Or how long do you use this thing at a time for and how many watts? Do you ever feel the cable to see if it is warm? I bought a 2000 watt inverter and decided to go with 00 gauge wire since it is running 12 feet(24 feeet) and I want to run 600 watts for hours at a time. what do you think? Thanks!
It will work better if you mount inverter under the seat and go the rest of the way 110acv, voltage drop is going to be bad.
What size are the connectors for the Renogy? 10, 13?
Good evening..I am trying to charge an ecoflow delta max 2000 with a TBE Pure Sine Car Inverter 2000W and it does not charge..do you know what could be wrong?
Thank you very much
No sorry. I would check the settings in the app first and if that looks okay then contact EcoFlow directly.
Do you have to install and fuse or breaker on it
Do you have the alternator for that? You might be overloading it that way!
Steve, did you add a fuse on your cable near battery?
No it’s just connected straight to the battery
@@ExpeditionAustralia can I suggest you work out your amp draw and fuse accordingly. Nothing worse than a burnt down 4wd when you could prevent it with a fuse at the battery. I see you have used split corro to protect the cable, but what protects the car if it does accidentally get shorted out? A fuse. It's cheap insurance.
Great videos, keep them coming 👍
Always fuse to protect the WIRE
I see you touching that negative while it is on, is that safe? And if so is that because it is only 12volt?(doesnt matter how much energy is running through it?), would touching the positive be safe too(not the insulated part, but the non insulated part). Thanks, I am in the process of learning more about electricity, especially car electricity.
At 12v that's not enough to pass through your relatively dry skin its safe
Hi. I have Eco Flow Delta 1300 is same way ?
Why not a step up dc to dc via the solar input, should be more efficient and cheaper.
Id like to test this at some stage
My thoughts exactly. I would hate to have 240V live in my vehicle while travelling along outback corrugations. The MPPT controller in the unit should be able to draw from the alternator at maximum charge rate that solar could provide. After all, the MPPT only needs to take the 14.2V alternator voltage and regulate it to maybe 14.4V for the battery.
This was one of the few videos I found on this, thanks, my friend. It’s been a year any thoughts on installation changes?
Still working well so no changes to the install. I’ve dialled the charging back to 600w to balance the load on the alternator. I do have a follow up video to come - just need to get it edited!!
@@ExpeditionAustralia I purchased 2- 1000 watt inverters for the delta pro so far the first did not work. Tomorrow I will try another brand does the inverter need to push out 240v to power the delta pro?
Could you charge the Delta 1300 this way?
How has the Battery you are using with Inverter? I added an extra 150 AH - 2 pcs. 12 volt gel - deep cycle , found the 1000 watt inverter getting hot ,Is this normal?
Any issues yet? I noticed that you set the Ecoflow to 800 watts, and I'm assuming that that old range is equipped with a 60 or 70 amp. That's means that your alternator is only putting out like 900 watts at peak efficiency, probably closer to 500 while at idle. That doesn't leave you with a huge buffer to recharge the car battery or even run the ignition system and the lights.
I took it out on a 3 day camping trip and ended up dialling it back to 600W as the alternator was struggling to deliver 800W to the inverter and keep charging the deep cycle battery. The inverter kept beeping and I could see the voltage meter on the dash was pretty low. At 600W it worked perfectly with no beeping and normal volts on the dash gauge. Charged the Delta Max from about 30% to 90% in under 3 hours of driving. When I replace the old deep cycle battery with a 100AH lithium I should be able to crank the inverter back up to 700W or 800W as the lithium will charge properly and stop drawing power from the alternator.
@@ExpeditionAustralia good to know. You should pin this to the top of the questions or do a follow up video😉
Hi Steve I love your videos very educational. Mate I have a question. With Solar Panels would you connect them directly to the Delta Max or go through the aux battery and then the the inverter. In this way the Aux Battery is charged both from the Alternator and the Solar Panel . Would love your thoughts. Thanks Keith
Thanks Keith. You would connect the solar panels directly to the Delta Max and you can also charge from the inverter via AC port at the same time. If you’ve got the solar mounted on the roof of your car/van it will trickle charge constantly then the inverter will add more charge while you’re driving. This is the setup I’ll end up with.
@@ExpeditionAustralia yeah I just purchased 2 x 250 watt cheap Solar Panels all spec looked ok A grade etc. but the best I could get out of them was 100 watts each. So they are going back. Then I thought if the Panels were connected directly to the Aux Battery I would be able to use the 1500 watt inverter (still coming) to charge more quickly more often with both Solar and Alternator keeping the Aux Battery topped up. However if I go with your suggestion it saves me having to by a dcdc or mppt controller.
As far as the inverter is concerned is bigger better. My Aux is 130a/h AGM is there a limit as to how much power I can draw from it ? Thanks Again
I would guess the problem is your solar panels can't really deliver close the output they're rated at or the conditions on the day were not ideal. Plugging them directly into the Delta Max is the most direct path with the least loss of power. If you run through the aux battery > inverter you'll lose power along the way. I've managed to get 300W out of the EcoFlow 400W panel so far running it directly to the Delta Max even on a mid winter day with the sun low in the sky so it should get pretty close to the rated 400W in ideal conditions which tells me that good quality solar panels like the EcoFlow work in the right conditions. They don't come cheap though unfortunately.
@@ExpeditionAustralia I understand I was looking to have a fixed system on the roof of my Ranger Dual Cab. So eco 400 watts system is not really applicable.
Yep they're more of a portable option. It shows that good quality panels work though. See if you can get your $$$ back for the cheaper one's and spend a bit more on a quality brand.
I am a bit confused, so pls clear the following. You have a dual battery set up? The two batteries are in parallel, still 12V. What's their chemistry? And you hooked the inverter straight to the 2ndary battery? And you are able to draw from it 600W? Where or how does your car's alternator come into this?
Dual batteries, both lead acid, that are isolated from each other via an isolator. After you start the engine the isolator sends all alternator output to starter battery until its charged then switches to second battery, usually only takes a few seconds. Now second battery is getting full charge from alternator. I've run the cable to the inverter from the second battery which is effectively coming from the alternator as they are on the same circuit. So the power for the inverter is coming from the alternator when the engine is running but would be coming from the second battery if the engine wasn't running. I don't turn the inverter on unless the engine is running.
tnx this helps a lot @@ExpeditionAustralia
if you had a single car battery set up like most vehicles could you feed the alternator straight to the inverter or would you need some controller in between?@@ExpeditionAustralia
Is the inverter you installed a pure sine wave or modified sine wave? When you contacted eco-flow did they save it mattered?
Thankyou.
It’s pure sine wave. I didn’t ask them specifically but I wouldn’t risk modified sine wave.
Hi. Thanks for your videos. Any update on this please? It's still working fine? On my actual 2000w invertor installed in my van the ecoflow will not charge (maybe because my invertor is not a pure sine wave? 🤔) so I'm planning to buy a renogy pure sine invertor I think 2000w will be enough to recharge my ecoflow delta 2 as I'm driving 2-3 hours each day I think it will be perfect to recharge it to 100% . Any suggestions before purchasing my new invertor? Look forward to hearing from you. Best wishes
Hi Cornel, I do have a follow up video in the works where I test it out but to save you waiting, I found that the setup worked best if I dialled the EcoFlow down to 600W draw from the inverter while I'm driving. Any more than this and it overloaded the alternator and the inverter would start beeping to let me know it wasn't getting enough power. While I'm driving, the alternator is also recharging the second battery in my car which is old and tired and struggles to reach full charge so this could be drawing more power from the alternator than a new battery would. I'll probably upgrade the second battery to a lithium which will reach full charge quickly and so all of the alternators charge can go to the inverter > Ecoflow. If you have a higher output alternator than I do then you should be able to dial up the power the EcoFlow draws and charge faster.
@@ExpeditionAustralia thank you for quick response. Funny watching your videos with the burger cooked. Haha great 😉 definitely I had in mind to keep it to a lower charge rate as I only use 50% of my delta 2 so should be enough to recharge while driving back from work. Will search for your other videos. Like and subscribed 😉🙏🏻👌🏻👏🏻
Hello, I will be installing an inverter into my 2020 Rav4. It has a 130 Amp alternator so I will be getting at 1500 Watt inverter. My question is do you think that getting a 2/0 or 00 gauge wire should be enough to provide the 1500 watts to the inverter which is going to be about 6 meters away. Should I ground the inverters negative terminal to the battery or the body ? Thanks for the help.
These videos were a great inspiration to get me started. I just added a 2000W inverter to power my ecoflow delta 2 max. I get a comfortable 1100w -1200w at idle on a Ford Bronco. My ecoflow does trip the inverter unless use a power plug with the ground removed (going from the inverter to the ecoflow). For the inverter power, I have 2/0 guage wire for both negative and positive going to the batter with a 250A breaker and 500A relay.
How is this working for you? Any issues since initial install? Also, I'm curious how many amps is your alternator?
Not sure what amps my alternator is. It's the standard one that came with engine 1HD-T turbo diesel. New video now up where I put it to the test > ruclips.net/video/7Bd1C9sP7GU/видео.html
Is that a "pure sine wave " inverter?
Yes it is.
@@ExpeditionAustralia Any problems with them over-heating? I'm looking at getting a 1000w inverter, but concerned about it needing to supply 750w to my power station continuous for up to 2 hours. That's a long time...
@ I have mine dialled down to 600W when charging my Ecoflow and haven’t had any issues.
How much strain does this put on your alternator?
Not too much. I’m able to dial down the power that the Ecoflow pulls for charging to balance the load on the alternator. Check out my more recent video ‘Road trip charging test’ for more info.
So why not a dc to dc charger?
That’s an option as well
You can't run a 2000w inverter off 4ga battery cable. Not at those cable lengths anyway.
I’ve installed a 1000w inverter and charge to power station at 600w which works well
@ExpeditionAustralia I ordered a ecoflow delta 3 plus with the alternator charger cost a little over $900 for both. Still waiting for it to ship it was preorder but also have 700w renogy inverter. I'm going to try charging with inverter just to see how it works. I'm sure it can charge at 600w I have run a heat gun on low setting with it which is more than 600w
Why you only set it to 800 watts if you have 1000 watts power
To not overload the alternator
I am having difficuty understanding why you would want to go from 12v DC to 120v AC to charge your Delta Pro so you can get either AC or DC from it....??? Why not use a less expensive Victron Energy Orion 12/24-Volt 20 amp DC-DC Converter Non-Isolated, High Power that you can set to output 30v and charge it that way through the Solar Port? Shoot you could get away with 10AWG wire - using higher voltage and keep the amps down. There are lots of howto videos on here covering that combination. I am all for having an inverter under the hood so you can use a vehicle as a kind of emergency A/C generator, but that is a different story.
To be honest I didn’t look at that option. The AC charging option looked good so I went with it and it works. I still have the option to add solar panels on the roof and charge from them as well. Your option may well be the best but I’d need to do a side by side comparison so see the pros and cons.
That’s point now you have option same time ac charging and solar panel 😊
Why didnt the EV manufacturers think of this..? To let the dynamo and small battery charge the large battery while the car drives.?
They did think of it & didn't do it because it's pointless & a waste of money on an ev as it already has regen brakes.