Powertronic Installation - Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 | 4K
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- Опубликовано: 4 авг 2024
- This is me installing the Powertronic piggyback ECU from Race Dynamics on my Royal Enfield Interceptor 650. Sharing it with you so can have an idea of how easy or difficult it is and what are the steps involved.
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Excellent, thanks for posting this. Looking forward to the first ride and tuning work. Cheers!
Wow! A job well done. I wouldn’t be able to do that in a thousand years.
Thank you, from Gemany ! For your good clear speaking ! And first for your good explantation and demonstration. Seldom !!!🤓❤
I have a PowerTronic unit on my REC500 and they are a great unit and excellent value, but it is quite large! Good video 👍🏻
Thanks for sharing. Very nice.
Good video to encourage DIY
Excellent
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Very informative, many thank for kindly showing us this. Subscribed.
I have one of these installed on a 2016 Classic 500. A very capable tuner that allows for easy modification of the fuel and spark maps. The downside is that the only tunes you can get from Powertronic are for either stock setups or for bikes with both low restriction air filter and exhaust. My modifications go beyond that and they are no help. They say you need to find a dyno to tune any other configuration. I told them that there are no dynos here and they said they can not tell me anything. They do have some good reading material on general tuning practices, however.
maybe it's an offset measure 224-34 --> ~190 so it knows that position 0 to 190 correspond accordingly?
These are slightly modified stage1 maps. It barely adds fuel to the idle cruise.
Adds no timing and does not raise the rev limiter because the current engines configuration can’t take advantage of this.
It is only set up for exhaust and air filter fuel map adjustment.
The bike is almost lean completely across the fuel map .
You can trim the fuel cells but should be done on a dyno to make sure you don’t over fuel or under fuel cells.
Having said this, I tested 3 interceptors , one with powertronic., one with Booster plug. And one stock.
The only difference I could feel was the idle was smoother and slow speed was easy and roll on had a nicer acceleration with both tuners.
The stock one was a bit ruff with the throttle but otherwise not much not a huge difference.
Will be purchasing a 650 soon, the only thing I will do is an exhaust and Booster plug.
The after market filter is not worth it, excess dirt will enter the engine , eventually causing the pistons seals not seal completely.
My advice. Keep the stock filter and open up the plate that holds the filter in place if you just got to have that minimal extra air and performance .
If you need more power then you are looking at the wrong bike. Other than cams to wake up the bike a big bore would be the only choice and that opens up a can of worms not worth going into.
Hope this helps.
Booster plug doesn't work on the Euro 5 onwards.
You can buy a fuel x fuel booster for euro 5 now @@diaryofawanderingboot4058
How's your bike, is it now with powertronic. How's the performance now?
have you started the bike becuz its instruct's me to start the vehicle and the caliberation is successfull
Good one..I have purchased one and looking for good mechanic as I am not sure with connections.
Hi, please can you clarify a question, can you tell the company that manufactures the interceptor 650 oil filter? the specification of the oil filter? compatible filters?
Hi, sorry for the late response. I too have not been able to find an aftermarket model for the oil filter. There are quite a few that would fit as they have the right dimensions but I'm not sure about the bypass valve specs. So I'm sticking with the RE one. It was very difficult to get one from the dealer but I was able to get it quite easily from the RE parts distributor for my city.
How much additional hp and torque did you get out of it?
I did not get it dyno tested, so can't say exactly how much. But it is definitely perceptible. It may not increase the peak numbers much but makes the torque more accessible in the lower RPMs. If you do have access to a dyno though, you can even tune the maps better and get the most out of your setup (exhaust and intake combination).
Hi how much would be the power increase with this installation?
The actual power and torque gains aren't much. They claim a 3 to 5 bhp gain with stock intake and exhaust. More noticeable is the change in throttle response and the eagerness of the bike to perform.
Is there any change in 2022 GT650? If I use the current powertronic?
Sorry for the late reply, but your best bet would be to check with the manufacturer - Race Dynamics. They now have a different product with some additional functionality. Not sure if that replaces the Powertronic.
Brilliant video and I need a some guidance on this, I was too ignorant, and bought an AEW exhaust only to realise later that changing exhaust also requires us to tune the ECU for health of the engine (as the pressure build up in the stock due to its core is not present in aftermarket one). Which I also sensed subtly while riding when the engine revved up pretty quickly but soon would loose its pressure. I see the Powertronic might be stop gap for this.. but its a bit expensive and a over kill.. Now my question is, can this managed by buying an after market filter and an appropriate spark plug or do you think going for powertronic sought of stuff is the only way? Your information would be really helpful.
An aftermarket air filter will make it worse as it makes the system more free-flowing and hence more lean. For most people just the exhaust change itself doesn't require a remap as the effect is relatively less. But a remap is recommended as the ECU uses a very lean map from the factory. You may want to look at the Booster Plug which is cheaper than the Powertronic and most people are happy with it. I wouldn't recommend changing spark plugs as they don't have any realistic improvement on performance. The iridium tipped ones last much longer though.
@@Volatile42 thanks for the reply..
I am trying to understand what you mean.. So the lean map from stock setting will continue to send in low fuel.. While the after market exhaust will let the air flow freely on the output end right?
So, what if we dont remap let it with default setting ? will this imbalance between input and output have any adverse impact on the engine life or mileage..?
In short what are the impacts if I just change exhaust and do noting else.
NOTE: I asked this becoz I just checked, the booster plug seems cheaper than e-commander units. But not really that cheap.. costs like 12 - 14K
Right. The stock setting is very lean to begin with as they have to meet the emissions standards. If you add any free-flow component, either intake or exhaust, you get more air flowing but with the same amount of fuel. So it will be running more lean. With any tuner, you are trying to fix this by adding more fuel. Most people don't notice much of an adverse effect with changing just the exhaust or intake. But if you change both, you will most likely need to add a tuner. Extremely lean settings can harm the engine as it causes it to run hotter. I can't really say exactly what level is safe but most people seem to be ok with just an exhaust change and no tuner.
BTW, what you say about the lack of back pressure in an open exhaust is also true. This itself is not harmful in my opinion but you may feel like you're missing some of the performance. In my case the Powertronic did fix it and I think people with Boost Plugs also noticed the same. But on the RE 650 the difference is not huge, so you don't absolutely have to go for a tuner. This is all general knowledge but different bikes react differently to such changes. On my Harley Sportster, just changing the exhausts brought in a massive flat spot in the torque curve that was very irritating, so I was forced to get a Fuelpak3. On the RE 650 the difference is noticeable but not so dramatic.
@@Volatile42 I did notice it in re twins.. Its subtle.. Some might choose to ignore it.. But it is there.. So I have the stock back on the exhaust. It will be so until I decide on a solution
@@Volatile42 Really meaningful conversation here, points noted and thank you!
What year is your bike? Will this work for Interceptor 650 2021 ?
Mine is a 2019 but I'm pretty sure it'll work on a 2021 as well. There have only been some minor changes for emissions and mostly with the exhaust. The Powertronic maps are customizable and Race Dynamics (the makers of Powertronic) might even have made some changes if necessary. I would suggest that you check with Race Dynamics once to be sure. They are usually quite responsive and supportive.
Kiirus ECU remaps launched.. No hardware needed just map on stock ecu
It would still require powertronic? Or just a stock ECU
What is powertronics fuel x for interceptor 650?
I haven't really looked into it but it looks like an improved version with more capabilities. Mainly the Auto-tune which is supposed to dynamically work out your map settings based on live feedback from the engine as you ride. Very interesting but not sure how well it actually works. I have first hand experience with auto-tune on the Fuelpak3 on my Sportster and that wasn't as good as it was made out to be. I have a video on that if you're interested in the details. Of course, that was a few years ago and things are continuously improving. Have to wait for some reliable reviews from people using the new FuelX.
A good informative and honest video tutorial 👍
How did you come to know about the actual range of 30 to 224 ? I mean does it shows up in the powertronic application ?
Yes, it shows the actual values at each position as you move the throttle. Somehow the wizard doesn't record all the way to the maximum. But you can see the actual values on the screen.
@@Volatile42 Great ! Thanks for responding 😀
Its quite an informative video for the users who are planning to DIY.
Keep doing the great work !
@@Volatile42after installation the rev limit is still there..
Yes, the default maps provided with the Powertronic do not change the rev limit. But I believe there is a way to change it from the tuning software. I myself haven't tried it yet.
I m a new subscriber from Dubai. Stay blessed! I am from a place where there is no mechanic with laptop and ofcourse incompetent enough to handle this. However I have a RE Service station nearby and my question is, would they fix this? Would it be legal to approach them?
An RE service would probably not do it. It's pretty easy to do it by yourself once you understand the process. Otherwise I would suggest you approach a good independent garage that specializes in tuning of bikes and cars. I'm sure you'll find them in Dubai. Show them the Race Dynamics documentation and maybe this video and they will know what to do. All modern engine tuning is done via computers.
@@Volatile42 So kind of you. However I meant back in Tamil Nadu only (Kanyakumari). I try my best to cover it thru your video. Thank you once again. If you could enlighten me on ' difference between quick shift and powertronic. Is it two different devices? or just once unit used for two purposes?
The quick shifter is an add-on for the Powertronic. The Powertronic already has the software and connector for the quick shifter. You need buy the quick shifter sensor and, install it into the shift lever and plug it into the Powertronic. So yes, if you want the quick shifter, you need both that and the Powertronic.
Volatile42 oh nice I got it. I don’t speed my bike much and I hv a hyderalic clutch installed already so I intend to apply clutch for the shift. Hope my stand makes sense “ not to go for quick shift and jz powertronic is fine “!
Does powertronic void vehicle warranty?
It almost certainly does void your warranty. But the whole installation is reversible, so if you need to claim warranty, just play it smart and uninstall it before taking the bike in.
Can we install power tronic in continental GT also??
Of course. It's the same engine and ECU. But please check with Race Dynamics, I think they have the improved FuelX version now which has additional functionality like auto-tune. In any case there is no difference between the Interceptor and GT from the engine point of view.
Can u share the tank pad link pls
Thanks Gulshir for the links. I got mine from motousher.com. A little expensive, buy good quality stuff.
the first y woild dow is deconnect de batt
Can u pls make videos on the user reviews..
I have a review video on my channel.
hi where did you bought it
I think I ordered it from their website. Racedynamics.com.
Bro ,is it affect mileage???
Very little, if I compare the consumption figures at every fill up before and after the installation. Almost not noticeable.
Bhp incrsd ?
Can't say, didn't get it dyno tested. The only other way to tell is to do before and after top speed tests which I also don't do. I care more about the torque than bhp and the torque increase can definitely be felt.
Can you tell me whats the different installing that powertronic.?
Please watch my first impressions video for details. ruclips.net/video/eXwftZ7UflU/видео.html
I've installed Power commanders, so understand how these work, my question if you have the answer, is will these suffice, and give the proper fuel map if you have already added aftermarket exhaust and intake opening? What is the difference in the 2 provided maps. do they offer any custom maps? I can't access a dyno here. hence my questions.
Make your own map.
@@cranky1812 that's really not helpful nor is it reccomended without a Dyno to check the values of A/F ratio under load or timing values. sure anyone can go on the software and makeup map but you have no idea if it's correct.
@@DEeMONsworld I made my own map on my modified RC 390 and the results were great. I got enough power from the map that I installed 42T rear sprocket and still kept same acceleration, my top end is 188+ kmph.
Now I am in Canada and I'll be getting another RC 390 here with major engine upgrades with standalone ECU from aracer to make 57+ bhp or 52+ wheel horsepower.
@@cranky1812 good for you, have at it, and good luck but be warned that engine has a lot of issues with various reliability concerns. Your asking a lot from a tiny single banger. I've had that engine a few years back, and quite familiar with its limitations.
@@DEeMONsworld KTM has no reliability issues, I still have my RC 390 in India and I did 35000+ Kms with modifications and I was revving up to 12,000 rpm. No leaks, no heating issues. It's a 2016 model.
For 52+ wheel horsepower I have already got titanium valve springs retainers, high compression gasket kit set, high compression piston, high compression spark plug, billet connecting rod, ceramic bearings, bigger injector, racing air box open lid, K&N, titanium exhaust header, wideband O2 sensor, highlift camshaft and aracer standalone ECU. Head porting and polishing once I get the motorcycle. Winter is coming so no more riding as it will start to snow soon.
People just don't maintain KTM's and face problems.
Pls share ur tank pad link .. pls must reply
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yup an mechanical engineer is speaking but what is the difference now & ll it last & what about your warranty
Hi Sourav, I'm no engineer, more of a mechanic. I like working on my bikes, which is one of the reasons I got the RE. It's simple and easy to work with.
Please see my other videos on the performance difference with the Powertronic. It's a improvement in the low-end response; more so if you also add in a free-flow intake and exhaust, like I have done later.
As for the warranty, if RE sees you with the mods, they will probably deny the warranty. But the installation is reversible, so if you really need to go to the dealer for a warranty claim, it's better the remove it first.
@@Volatile42 dude its all ok but dont u think u r dong too much work for so lil gain
Yeah, it is expensive. Not very easy to justify. Like I said in my review video, I look at it this way. I wasn't quite satisfied with the low end performance of the Interceptor as my earlier bike was more torquey in the low end and I was missing that. But the Interceptor's price is low enough that even you add some extras to make it a little better, it's still so much cheaper than any comparable bike.
As for the amount of work, it's not much. As you get more comfortable working on bikes, they feel easier to work with. Cheers 🙂
Isse benefits kya hote hain.
It alters the air-fuel ratio and ignition timing for better performance. You can see the effects more of you have aftermarket free-flow intake/air-filter and exhausts.
@@Volatile42 COMPANY JO DETI HAI USME KYA DIKKAT HAI.
What the company provides is very restricted due to emissions and noise regulations. Koi dikkat nahi, it’s still good. But if you’re used to other performance oriented bikes you may find some things like throttle response need improvement.
@@Volatile42 OK THANKS
Be wary as installing this may result in RE refusing work under warranty, great 'tho if it gives you more horses!
True, but it's completely reversible. So it can all be undone if you need to get warranty work done.
@@Volatile42 As long as you don't forget to take out!
Could have tried remapping from wolf moto who claim 8 to 10 % of gains and no need of all these wiring extras, just add an exhaust, airfilter and remap it's all done. Only thing you would get here is a quick shifter which may not be required other than a lap time improvement 😜 why do you take roadster to the track.