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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- David Fletcher is back! Join him as he discusses the FV601 Saladin - a six wheeled armoured car developed by Crossley Motors and later produced by Alvis. The Saladin has had a long service life and despite its dated design, is still in service with some countries.
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The Tank Lord has returned.
All Hail his mighty mustache.!!!
The Armoured Walrus.
Hail!
WE'RE NOT WORTHY TO BE IN THE PRESENCE OF HIS GLORIOUS MUSTACHE!!!!
Give him a Knighthood for his services to Military History of Armour.
@@yank-tc8bz exactly!!!!!!
I nearly fell over. Tank Chats with David Fletcher is back! The world is righting itself!
Surprised he is still around!
Nature is returning
Complete with his pronunciation of words. Salad...IN.
Yay!!
Ur ittiwsaayyy
So sad to hear David is no longer making videos, and i can't see how he can be replaced to be completely honest, as he has a wonderful way he presents and his knowledge is top shelf and mixed with his unique humour makes for one of my favourite youtube presenters of any genre!
....I know he may not be interested in the idea, but he would be a great podcaster on the subject of Tanks !!
Really happy to see Mr. Fletcher again.
Really missed him and his knowledge- humour.
And that with the Saladin; build the Tamiya model and really loved it!
It was good well good by British standards witch isn’t saying much -David fletcher
We still have Saladins and Saracens in full running order here in Indonesia used by reserve army units 🙈
Can you get me a new set of tyres for mine?
In a strategic sense they make sense. They're cheap to run and light enough to be carried on civilian ferry's.
Same here in Honduras, main armor of cavalry units. I've been inside one
Gannicus-Cuentos Y Leyendas love Honduras 👌🏽
Starfireaw11 you need to inquire the Army quartermaster i think they went for a local producer for the spare tires 😬
2nd royal tank regiment on exercise crescent moon .circa 1960. I drove a Saladin from the coast of lybya south to the border with Chad to the Tibesti mountains. And back again. A long hot journey.It performed very well. I still have some old black and white photos of that journey. The Saladin Saracen and ferret's did their job in the lybyian desert. Plug the kettle in under the commanders seat and make the tea.
One of my most vivid memories of the footage coming out of Kuwait during the invasion was that of a Kuwaiti Saladin valiantly battling Iraqi forces, it's main gun firing and turret swinging to engage targets in the city center.
Though I don't know the fate of the vehicle or its crew, it seemed to me, at the time, to be symbolic of the spirit of the Kuwaiti people...............................
Kuwait is part of Iraq, it was only divided off because that area contained a great deal of oil. Please fill who did the dividing. Peace be unto you.
@@martinwarner1178 I'm well-aware of the geopolitical chicanery that made the modern middle-east, but don't try to use past political decisions as an excuse for blatant land-grabs.
Saddam was an imperialist bent on "reintegrating" a Mesopotamian Empire. He would not have stopped at the borders of Kuwait and Saudi Arabia had his gambit succeeded.
Mesopotamia, like all of the world- with NO EXCEPTIONS is a land dominated by tribes and tribal customs, mores and laws. Regions are dominated by tribes and sub-sects and typically want to be left to rule themselves.
Friction develops when a "government" that purports to have rule over those lands tries to impose its will.
In the case of Saddam's Iraq, that led to the gassing of whole villages and tribes.
So, martin warner, How far are you willing to go to make Kuwait an official part of Iraq?
@@karlbrundage7472So the CIA enabled a local thug to take control and become a ruthless leader. That suited the Americans as he was their guy!
America are currently fighting the Russians with Ukrainian Labour... that's a win/win in Langley.
P. S. If I "commit suicide" tonight, tell me mum I love her... 🙂
I wonder how many other boys had a Dinky Toy Saladin in the '50s. It looked just right and was beautiful to this ten year old. I'm very happy to see you back, David.
I had the Saracen, Saladin, numerous trucks, 25 pounders etc. .. but my pride and joy was a Centurion tank complete with Scammel tank transporter. Oh the joy.
Dear Tank Museum: Please make sure the Davids know how glad we are for their continued service. Mr. Fletcher in particular has a regular cheering section on every new video.
Heaven forbid if anything happened to David Fletcher a statue should be erected in the tank museum.
RUclips + David Fletcher = the man that's brought tanks to the masses
How about a tank named after him? With a stylish moustache on it.
Stalin did it first.
Lol I thought it was Hitler that brought tanks to the masses.
What do you mean, they should erect a statue? He *is* the statue.
Just before the shutdown, they stood him up next to that Saladin with a couple tins of biscuits and a BV, and he just waited for things to quieten.
Well, it would be more like a statuette.
Well that makes me feel old! I worked on the Saracen, the Armoured Personnel Carrier variant back in the '70s. I guess I'm a museum piece too now ... or so my grandkids tell me.💀💀💀
@Robert Wood; no sir. That makes you a Classic, just like the awesome vehicle!
@@AndyTernay Thanks Andy, that's made my day 😎
Robert Wood: Me too.....I drove both of them in the 70s. I loved the Saracen but hated the Saladin because it always felt like it was top-heavy and about to overturn if you went around a corner at high speed :-)
MR. FLETCHER, the true treasure of the Tankmuseum! Forget the last running Tiger 1, just a ordinary prop compared to this Sir.
Best wishes Mr Fletcher, stay healthy!
David Fletcher -- the Man, the Legend, accept no substitute. Welcome back David!!
You missed a bit :) the Man, the Legend, the Moustache, accept no substitute.
Great to see the man back, awesome as always.
One of these passed me one day on the way to school, in the seventies I think. It made a hell of a noise: a big, deep rumble accompanied by a whine from the engine. And it seemed huge next to the cars of the era. Really impressive.
David Fletcher MBE, For The Win!
"they said it could drive on any four wheels after blowing any two off, and that's not true. you had to choose which two you got blown off"
words to live by.
I think it would work with any two non-adjacent wheels blown off, counting the two front or two rear as adjacent. With two adjacent wheels gone though you're going to get out and walk.
@@WalkaCrookedLine exactly.
@@WalkaCrookedLine Or you take one wheel off from elsewhere to balance the vehicle out?
"what a load of rubbish" LOL
I recently visited The Tank Museum, and it was a dream come true.
Glad to support the Tank Museum, and i hope to visit again soon.
The only thing he said that didn't compute was when he mentioned Swingfire missiles and needing luck for them to hit the target. I was a Swingfire controller. They were as effective at maximum range, which would be the same regardless of the vehicle platform, as they were up close. Accuracy wise, they were as accurate as the controller who guided them onto the target. Fire and forget missiles inevitably took over from the Vigilant and Swingfire et al, but on their day they were state of the art.
Swingfire was easily the best of the early generation ATGM. The thought that went into its survivability in real world conditions was in a different league to other systems. In its SACLOS upgraded version it was superior to the TOW, at least until the TOW2 and its variants arrived, at that time Swingfire was in its last years of service.
Good to see Mr. Flatcher, by the way, this Tank still used by the Indonesian Army, along with the other product from Alvis such as APC Saracen and Ferret scout panzer.
Growing up in postwar Germany, I never saw one of these bad boys IRL. But I do still recall when I first saw one in The Avengers (Ep. 4.22 "What The Butler Saw") when John Steed arrived at the scene in an Alvis Saladin Series II FV601. As a young boy, I was thoroughly impressed by the design and therefor decided on the spot that this was exactly what my future self should have as a car.
It got even better when an Alvis Saracen FV603 APC appeared in Ep. 5.24 ("Mission-Highly Improbable"). I still remember that the poor thing was hit with some kind of shrinking ray weapon and reduced to Matchbox size with Steed inside. Suffice to say, I was more concerned for the well-being of the Saracen.
If you lived close to the border with the GDR you might have seen the BGS using these for border patrol.
David Fletcher back and in top form! Great video.
Nice one gents! One of my favorite vehicles. I did spot a minor mistake however. David describes the turret crew as "commander and loader". This is incorrect. The turret crew were a commander and a gunner: the commander (right) loaded the gun, and the gunner (left) doubled up as radio operator.
This seems counter-intuitive and is different to most two-man turrets where the commander is also the gunner, however wartime experience had shown that it was quite difficult for the commander to maintain all-round situational awareness while spending quite a lot of his time peering through the narrow field of view of the gunnery optics. On the other hand, loading (at least in a recce vehicle) was an intermittent activity and he could spend a lot more time looking out of his periscopes as a result.
This novel arrangment proved so successful in practice that it was carried over into the Scorpion and Scimitar vehicles, although the positions were reversed in those, with the gunner/radio-operator on the right and the commander/loader on the left.
This is the sort of chap you'd love to meet in a country pub on a winters night , listening to the stories no one would ever dare print ,
fell asleep...ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Thank You Mr David Fletcher MBE for your intelagent ,informative leactures
Thx, Finally the Saladin and plz more Sixxer the Saracen or the four wheel Ferret, i was 2 years old when a 7 year old boy played in the backyard with Matchbox Saladin , Saracen and ferret cars i tried to play with him like the days before when we played with Cars but this time he told me no Michael your are too young thats nothing for you, i was really upset and it ignited my love for british sixxers, when i came into school i buyed all sixxer from Matchbox incl the stalwart and then we moved downtown near the street and every autumn during BAOR manvoures i had the oppurtunitiy to play in Tanks and arm. Cars and had much fun with the Tommys incl. Choclate and engl drop in a golden Can.
Last time i saw a Saladin was in 72 or 73 but it was not a BOAR Vehicle it was a BGS germ. Borderguard unit driving thru my Village.
Like you, I had a Matchbox Saladin, Saracen and Ferret (could never figure which end was front) and a Stalwart tow truck but also a 20 pounder Centurion and a 5.5 inch gun/howitzer. Where my aunt and uncle found them in the US (they were Christmas presents) remains a mystery.
Welcome back Mr Fletcher.
I've always thought the Saladin was a great example of British light armor. The Scimitar and Scorpion tracked AFV's were other impressive examples developed during the Cold War.
The tank museum should sell audiobook CDs of David Fletcher reading from his books...
and on vinyl :p
I would also settle for him reading a phone book
I would potentially shell out some USDs for this....
If he did a audiobook of just his rants and complaints, I would buy it in seconds.
I didn't know Salvador Dali drove Saladins... How surreal...
"Salvador Dali in a Saladin," try saying that five times fast!
I had a figurative day in the mud and Mr Fletcher was just the motivational speaker I needed.
There is no substitute for David Fletcher, it's good to see him. Saladin is a very handsome vehicle, it seems David likes the Saladin, so I like them. It's a shame Crossley Motors has ceased to exist.
My name unfortunately is the only connection that I have to the once great company, Crossleys also made quality carpets, but once again that is my only connection, a totally irrelevant post but it's been raining constantly all day and my keyboard finger was looking for something to do🌧️☔😊😊.
@@CrusaderSports250 ~ It's a shame the Studebaker Car Company is no more as well, but they could compete with Chrysler, Ford and GM. -- Post WW2 some many companies couldn't make it, and that's interesting to me.
Great to see Mr Fletcher alive and well.
Sadly can only hit like once. Welcome back Sir. Great to see you again
The tankies had these when I was infantry in Cyprus in late 80's.
I know because we painted one of them pink when they weren't looking!
I also think the Kuwaitis used them in action when Iraq invaded, I'm sure I saw footage of them fighting in Kuwait City..
I regularly drove Stalwarts around workshops with the center wheels removed - drove OK but increased the turning circle by about three times! ( when suspended towing Stollies Saracens and Saladins you had to remove the center wheels and the sun gears from the rear hubs - the Bundeswehr took a dim view of towing with the front wheels flailing around in mid-air ! )
I'm not even kidding when I say that my girlfriend and I just discussed visiting the UK (a destination we've never much entertained for a vacation) explicitly to visit the Tank Museum and possibly meet Mr. Fletcher. This man is just such a glorious mix of knowledge and sincere dry wit that it's a small wonder that he's so loved for his tank chats. David Fletcher: Making tanks and museums as awesome as they should be.
He explain.
He expand.
but most importantly
The moustache is back!
Isn't this meme supposed to rhyme?
@@Andrew-yl7lm It was but I suck at ryhme's. You do it.
Bro david fletcher is the realest man I've ever seen with that mustache... Its crazy how all that knowledge is stored in there
Best looking armoured car ever, all the early post war British FV series looked the part from the Champ to the Antar, Ferret to Centurion.
Great to see Mr Tank back where he belongs.
Nice to see David Fletcher back and rambling to camera again. And about a vehicle I have an interest in, to boot!
Great to see mister Einstein of Tanks againn👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🥳🥳🥳🥳
Always had a soft spot for Saladin, a very interesting car. Thank you for the video!👍
Mr Fletcher. Thank you.
Went back to work this week... just got home knackered to a new David Fletcher tank chat ....HOORAY
Ahh, David Fletcher is back again !!! Great ! Love your explanation on the wheelded vehicle !! Great !! Fletcher back is museum back !!!
Great Tank chat, I drove the Fox but my Commander only had good words to say about the Saladin. Also really good to see you back David Fletcher!
Truly marvelous to see Mr. Fletcher back in the saddle again:-) excellent morale booster!
'They use to make claims like that.. a load of rubbish' - he's back..
A HESH round is as effective at any range - its penetration does not depend on velocity. The only reason that a Saladin might need for getting close is the inherent loss in accuracy of a short barrelled gun over distance, which combined with the subsequent low velocity of the round, means achieving hits at medium range is a problem.
I still have a Matchbox model of the Saladin from my childhood. Probably dates to about 1960.
I had a plastic one about 18" long in 1970's, I believe it might still be in the loft!
Always good to see you museum folks! Hope you're all doing well over there.
To know that David Fletcher is fine and cheerful as always is a great relief in this trying times
It's easily clobbered!! Brilliant, Glad to see you back Mr Fletcher ... a national treasure & so's the moustache!
Wonderful to see mr Fletcher back. Let the Fletcherisms commence!
Fletch returns!! Welcome back Mr Fletcher
Photos shown of 2rtr in lybya in the early sixties. These vehicles were issued to test them in desert conditions . Saladin's Saracens and ferret's.
a tank museum = a good day
a fletcher vid = a very good day
:)
Again David does us proud with his brand of presentation and excellent knowledge of the Saladin.
I never fail to just zone out and relax with these tank chats providing us with a little oasis of sanity during stressful times.
Hat doffed to you David.
Transmission wind-up was not the result of lack of a differential between the left and right wheels, it was the result of no differential between the front, middle and rear wheels. On dirt roads or travelling fast (relatively!) on a straight asphalt road, was no problem, but driving slow on on winding asphalt roads, for instance in built-up areas, caused a lot of wind-up. The easiest solution was to drive with one set of wheels over the kerb and sidewalk.
There was a dieselisation kit offered in the nineties, with a Perkins 180 hp engine. I believe it was bought by Indonesia for their Saladins and Saracins.
Good to see David Fletcher back.
I love his no nonsense approach.
"Don't agree with me? No one cares, don't complain in the comments!"
He has an excellent grasp of social media - really doing the the old Patreon base a huge favour....
I saw it in the tank museum! Very advanced engineering.
I own a Mk 2 Ferret and a Mk 5 Saracen. I'd like to add a Mk 2 Saladin to the collection, one day.
Reminds me of the goto to page in 1950's & 60's Dinky catalogue, after that you need a Champ, Humber, Centurion, Antar, Scammell...
If they are real then 'You lucky git'.
The world is now on the road to recovery! Mr. Fletcher is back! We know all will be right in the world! Thanks!!
This brings back memories. When my brother and I were kids we had a couple all metal matchbox Saladin toys. Guns had broken off and paint was chipped but after we stopped playing with them our dad got us an original just so we could see what it looked like. I think they were old toys our uncles used to play with in the 50s or 60s
See the picture with this young man in it you immediately know it's going to be an amazing road of a story 😂 I could listen to him talk about paint drying
Welcome back to Mr David Fletcher. I do enjoy what you bring to this Channel because it is always informative post
We have three of these in our militia mech unit here in michigan. They were bought in the early 1990's a $8,000.00 each and had just been part of a large rebuild project in england. We have about a dozen Sarasens and many Ferrets mk1 and mk2. All are great to drive and easy to work on. We've upgraded the armor and kevlar blanketed the inside. Very automotive and very quiet. Liberty1775
Had this as a 1/32 Taimiya model when i was a kid
Was always a favourite.
happy days
I was quite interested in the video as I have a small model of a Saladin Armoured Car made by Corgi Toys during its service life
"Thats gotta be the cutest wheeled AFV i have ever seen"
-So it would seem
*BASS BOOSTED HANS ZIMMER INTENSIFIES*
I own a Ferret Mk 2. Most women call it cute.
Cutest armored car I'd have to say it the late model beaverette they got over there is the winner. That I know about anyways.
I agree F4W. If something looks right it generally is, certainly from that post WWII era. The gun was excellent giving good fire support for "B" regiments. However, being a recce vehicle it's most potent weapon was the radio. Which is probably why the Ferret being smaller and easier to conceal but with the same radios, outlived it in service.
I still want one. Seriously, I do.
well, it's little brother the Ferret is more cute, but there's no disliking a super ferret ;)
They were used in N Ireland. I saw four sand coloured Saladins in convoy one time.
Yep they were used in Ireland as well as the Saracen and Ferret armoured cars. The British used them to commit war crimes in our great nation. As well as using SAS troops in disguise to blame atrocities on the Irish people that were just fighting for their country's freedom. Was hoping Brexit would bring a united Ireland again but sad to say it hasn't happened yet. But since the queen has passed on it might be a renewed hope to see another try at it. Since our peace accord was with the queen and not the nation. Tiocfaidh ár lá
I'm really glad to see that David Fletcher is back and the channel is back up and running I've learned so much from this channel and look forward to learning more
Two dislikes are from Richard The Lionheart.
Lee or from wargaming...
@@kristofferjohansson3768 He makes a wordplay with historical reference, but I guess it wooshed you.
Peter Conen hehe, didn’t even reflect on the tank name...
Richard the Barbarian you mean
Thank you for your candor, Mr. Fletcher. Too easy to be misled by manufacturers' marketing hype. Please keep calling them as you see them!
Thank you. Good to see David Fletcher!
Australia put that turret on M113's to make a Fire Support Vehicle.
My car has a rear driver when my mother in law is in the back seat.
no. Then it has a commander. And/or a dragon engine
THE KING HAS RETURNED
RE. the wheels off: I remember my Dad taking me to Bov. in the summer (ab. 1968) and us going out to the ranges where there was a demo. "battle". A "Sallycan" drove behind a hillock "hit a mine", two wheels were blown 50 feet into the air, and it apparently (though with different number plates!) rolled out from behind the hill and carried on.
Good to have informed presentation. I seem to recall seeing one of these in Belfast in the 70s during Op. Banner. But I could be mistaken.
Glad to see you back, David.
Love your work guys, even though I'm an Infantryman from the Royal Australian Regiment I love to learn about military history and armor!! I got interested in it when I saw the Mephisto the only A7V left in existence that was recovered by Australians in WWI!! I'm so proud of the men who risked their lives in no mans land to recover this tank in the middle of the night!!
Another great presentation by Mr Fletcher. Always enjoyable and worth every second spent watching. The Attenborough of Armour.
AT LAST! The one I've been waiting for from the very beginning, and it was totally worth the wait!
Glad to see your ok . Thanks for more tanks.
Welcome back Mr. Fletcher... Nice you see you again!!
At 4:22 - great shot : Saladin, Ferret, Ferret, Saladin, Saracen, Ferret.
My late uncle was a gun fitter, and the Saladin was one of his favourite vehicles to work on (the other was the centurion)
To reduce wind up you ran along the grass verge at the side of the road, same as stalwart. The also did not have self centering steering so you had to return the wheels to center after turns. Same as ferret, saracen and stally. lack of castor causes this if i remember rightly from my training on this in 1976.
Excellent presentation. Welcome back David.
Hail the king has returned
Another fascinating video with our very own Sir David !!!!!!!
Thanks David. Great to see you back in action.
World war 2 (and post) armoured cars look so badass! Some of them seem so modern they don’t look unusual today. I think that’s down to the “function = form” design of them.
I wonder how many are available for civilian ownership? There would be nothing cooler on the road - or off road- with you.
I say this with due trepidation...
The description of HESH is a little bit misleading. It’s not a kinetic round so it’s effectiveness doesn’t reduce with range (providing its in range of course. The main limiting factor of it as an anti-tank weapon was mainly its comparatively small calibre.
True. Could he have meant that the short barreled gun was too inaccurate at long range?
I think he meant ''you had to get a bit close'' because the gun itself was only 76mm so its range by default was smaller than something like 100mm of proper tanks and its velocity was also low since its a short barreled gun.
craby man maybe, but that’s a function of the gun rather than of HESH as an ammunition nature.
What I usually hear is that HESH is a general-purpose round: if you have that you don't need HE, and better against armour, concrete, and buildings in general. I don't know how the armour thickness affected the spalling it depends on.
How different was the gun and ammunition that was used in the Scorpion?
(And, while it's not a tank, how was the Stalwart related?)
HESH ammo has quite a low muzzle velocity compared to HE, therefore it's quite difficult to hit a target at long distance. On training range it's quite nice to observe the rounds while forking in the target.
Back in the museum!!!
Mr fletcher just what i needed helps me relax man
And now I can let my breath out. I feel good.