2023 Toyota Prius Prime: No longer embarrassing at stoplights.
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
- MotoMan heads back to San Diego to drive another new @TOYOTAglobal Prius, this time the all-new for 2023 @toyotausa Prius Prime. Taking this Toyota Prius Prime PHEV to the same exact road he drove the Toyota Prius HEV, he demonstrates both Hybrid and Full EV modes and learns that more is not always more . . .
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As much as I hate government regulation, I would drive a hybrid regardless.
They are good on gas, quiet, and reduce emissions.
Oh and they have the best range. A Prius can go 1000km (620mi) on a single tank of gas!⛽️
Plus they are the most reliable cars around.
The low end torque of the electric motor makes a beautiful marriage with the high end torque of the internal combustion engine
I drive 2018 Prius Prime and it is not embarrassing at traffic lights it is actually first off usually specially in EV, at no problem. Sure it is not that fast after 60 km/h, but it is a fantastic car.
These are going to sell really well. I’m not completely ready to go full up EV and both the Prius and Prius Prime give me the option to go partial EV and get some of the benefit without the range anxiety and lack of charging infrastructure that a full up EV owner has to deal with. Well done Toyota.
I never understood why EVs and plug ins had to look weired and awkward. And it was certainly holding back buyers. This one looks surprisingly good. The situation in Germany with EV loading stations is catastrophic, also a reason to postpone a radical change. I am not going into EU politics vs the people here 😁
At least Germany is starting to wake up and face reality. Hope more EU Member States follow suit.
At least Germany has great public rail transit compared to the US. Needing any kind of car is not as necessary.
@timothymiller5425 He probably means charging stations. Loading up the car with electricity.
@Timothy Miller Public charging points for electrical vehicles. There aren't any, it's a joke.
I wasn't embarrased with my 2007, 2016, nor my current 2017 Prime.
We get 80Km on a charge with our 2024 Prime. In Hybrid Mode it can manage 6.6 seconds 0~60 and, still gets well under 3.5 L per 100 Km. Wonderful.
Truly the best automotive channel on RUclips. ❤️🔥❤️
I thought I heard that in perfect sun states like California/Arizona, that 12hrs of sun every day would charge the battery about 5 miles every day. Other states maybe 2 miles. Can someone clarify?
I actually upgraded from a 2010 Prius with the solar panel that ran an internal fan. I upgraded to a 2023 Prius Prime (I was surprised, because I found gen 4 to be so ugly). But the Prime works well for being EV as daily driving and hybrid for any long distance highway. I didn't find the 2010 solar panel to be a party trick, and I was surprised that Toyota abandoned it. I could leave it out baking in the sun for the whole day....when I got in the car, I didn't burn my hands handling metal seat belts or gripping the steering wheel. As for do you need the plug in? I'm noticing most the people asking me about the car (after saying, wow...that's a Prius??!!) is that they also think 40 mile EV is great for their need of daily driving (and then it's easy extended highway driving with hybrid).
Mr. Motoman, well done.
My pleasure!
3:42 I have the solar sun roof in my 2011 Prius. It was a $3600 option, and it included navigation. It was overpriced by about $3000, but it is nice to have the ventilation fan run while I'm shopping. Yes, I did say "ventilation fan", not air conditioning. Really overpriced.
So I have a question for you I live in apartment complex which one is better for me looking for a gas saver and it has to be a Toyota so should I get the the Toyota Prius or should I get the prime version or should I get the Toyota Corolla
I ended up buying a Toyota Corolla Hybrid. I like the looks of the new Prius, but it was not worth it to me to pay the extra. Thank you for the video.
I’m just starting to look at Evies and I’m wondering is this also gas powered like a hybrid, but has a full EV mode?
in canada here, prius prime is $2,000 cheaper than the equivalent spec HEV due to federal EV rebate, so it's a no brainer
I have owned every Prius made since Al Gores "inconvient truth". Great cars all of them. But I cannot undersstand the idea that people buy cars fo the way they look????
50 mpg and some ev will make a lot of people happy. Now it comes back to price points. I am surprised they miss a few places they could improve efficiency and save money and weight. Maybe even trading that weight gain for more battery?
It really looks good.
Wait, I just saw a Porsche Macan T review that does the same time to 60!
I like it and looks sleek and as a Toyota owner can say are more reliable than any American or European cars!, plus 44 miles is usually enough for normal city commutes , while in my area we pay $1.95CND/1 litters of regular gas
Kia, where are you in Canada ? We're in Newfoundland and, gas hit, at its highest, $ 1.96 last year. Currently, it hovers around $ 1.75 per liter. Amazing when you consider we are an oil producing province. Diesel was even worse, approaching $ 3.00 per liter. That meant, to run a tractor trailer from Ontario to St. John's the cost "for fuel alone" was $ 10,000 ! Add the Gulf ferry (and an empty return trip with fuel and ferry),and a margin for the operator you'd be looking at a cost of over $25,000 per truck !
Jesus Mary and Joseph, is it any wonder the inflated costs for goods is so high. It's simply not sustainable. We suffer.
The European shaped front plate holder makes as much sense as a plug without more of a punch or efficiency benefit. Toyota obviously didn’t want to repeat the RAV4 Prime formula. We’re back to Toyota doing what Toyota does best. 10:46
I noticed that the regular Prius has an interior that comes in two colors, however, I’ve only seen the prime reviewed with a dark interior. Is that the only interior color offered?
Yes, unfortunately.
Hey George,
Loved the video as always.
Those hybrid cars suck though. They just don't make any sense 😕.
Keep up your amazing work 👏!
Congrats to the production team and to the videographer as well!
Remember your fans in Portugal next time you come over to this side of the pond.
Best wishes
Thanks for the kind words . . . and will do!
Will this model power your home like the current Lightning F150 and the 2011 Prius model?
It is not a full EV plzzzz maybe the maverick does
You were in San Diego? We should've hung out!!!!
Yes and no. Crazy schedule with this one . . . I had just wrapped shooting the IONIQ 6 in PHX (ruclips.net/video/v4k-h0Dp73o/видео.html). Flew back Friday afternoon. Saturday morning, drove down to San Diego, shot a 'Living with' episode on the Supra Manual on the way down and then shot this in Carlsbad, drove back up to LA on Saturday evening. Flew to Portugal on Sunday AM to shoot this (ruclips.net/video/seWaRQeyoEc/видео.html). Shipped old friend & frequent guest host, @BrianMakse to San Diego to shoot the Toyota Corolla Cross Hybrid and then flew back to San Francisco to shoot this (ruclips.net/video/_Tmqn8YowHQ/видео.html). All in one week.
Nice to finally see a review with the EV horsepower figures. 161 horsepower from a 3500 Ib car is meh but definitely acceptable.
@@tr5680 the main difference is if you can do the large majority of your driving on EV only. If you can't then it makes no sense to get the Prime.
I have a deposit on the Prime. My daily commute is about 25 miles so I'll basically I'll be using it as a full EV. And 161hp is more than enough for that kind of driving. If I want to really punch it I can whenever I want and use all 220hp or when I go on road trips. It's the best sweet spot in EV range and overall MPG gas efficiency. The RAV4 Prime is another good option but it has a much lower MPG efficiency at around 38 MPG when using the gas engine.
@@tr5680 The car has great technology no matter which way you want to drive it. I like that. I wonder if dealers will allow you to swap out the tires for the smaller ones to get better range and probably a more comfortable ride due to the higher side walls.
I like how everyone universally wants a more sporty Prius now that it looks hot
Most prius drivers don’t care so much about performance as miles per gallon.
The point that he’s making here is that the new Prius is very powerful compared to previous Prius.
Maybe EVs could make sense in the future if they can be produced ethically. Until then, I could not understand why hybrids and PHEVs were being looked over. It is the best tech for emissions, by far.
Brussels and Washington operate as follows: 'Don't bother me with the facts, my mind is already made up!'
They are not being over looked. They are just different stages of the electrification of cars. It's not an either/or situation. It's more of a continuum of electrification technology based on maturity.
Remember where things were when the 2004 Prius came out and how many people poo pooed it. It was an engineering marvel to get 50 MPG. That was completely unimaginable back then. So much so many people thought you had to plug it in. Most cars had MPG ranges in the 20s maybe low 30s.
Look where we are now almost 20 years later. It's a huge advancement and that's due mostly to hybrid cars and some PHEVs not EVs though their time is coming fast especially with how quickly battery technology is improving.
🚙EV with engine👍
Prius buyers have never given a dam about how it looks or how fast it goes; only the mpg. 15 years ago 50 mpg was science fiction so ppl overlooked everything else. Today Euro sport sedans with 300 hp can get 37 mpg hwy so giving up the massive looks, handling, leather, Burmester sound, etc. to get another 13 mpg is a tough sell.
The new Prius gets up to 56-57 MPG in the lowest trim, looks cool now, is bigger, and still has much more power than the old Prius. The science fiction continues. I don't know how Toyota does it.
BTW, it's sneaky how you specifically say 37 mpg hwy. The more accurate metric is Combined MPG. That figure is much lower than 37. Probably more like 30-32 mpg, right? So the real world MPG difference is closer to 25 MPG.
@nomenclature9607 True, that car got very good MPG, the best for it's time at around 45 MPG combined, but it did it at the cost of significant compromises too. It was a stick, used diesel, lack of sound proofing so very loud, under powered, and it was relatively small by comparison.
What Toyota has done with this new Prius prime is getting the best MPG without any comprises and more power than ever. It's truly a unicorn car.
@nomenclature9607 Well, diesel is now actually more expensive than regular gas in the USA.
Going from 196HP to 220HP, but adding 100s of lbs and losing AWD doesn't seem like much of an upgrade from the regular HEV to the Prime. Having an EV only range is nice, but not enough of a differentiator. Living in Canada AWD is almost always at the top of my list of necessities. I'd stick with the regular HEV over the Prime if choosing between the two.
I see your logic - which is valid, but to me, the cost is the real question. At US$27,500, the basic Prius is hard to beat these days.
@@MotoManTV That's definitely true. The base Prius has a lot of bang for the buck too compared to the perceived value from the Prime.
@@MotoManTV True, but then you're also always using gas. That the real difference. If you can use the prime only in EV mode on a daily basis, that's a huge difference and it's better for the environment. That's very important for people who are considering EVs.
Get the RAV4 Prime it has an equally good EV range and AWD and is actually faster with even more horsepower if you get a comparable trim
Toyota finally care about design. Thanks to haters
-Drive 90% of annual miles on cheap residential electricity, yet never be hostage to public charging with the long waits, or the ICED, occupied or vandalized chargers (ask me or any other candid EV owner).
90% of BEV benefits (smooth, quiet torque, strong regen, cabin preconditioning and cheap fuel) with the ability to refuel in 3 minutes anywhere there's a gas station.
I guess no room for awd in Prius prime like rav4 prime , I kinda want normal Prius with awd. My rav4 prime I can eek out 50 miles on charge driving with everyone mad at me. I want reduce rim size since sport suspension isn’t that great over distance.
Didn't expect it, but was very impressed with the RAV4 Prime.
I'm debating between the new Prius prime or the RAV4 Prime. How do you like your RAV4 Prime? What don't you like? Thanks
@@mrxman581 I like the rav4 prime but one has to be on top of fact you have to burn gas on occasion. You have to think of it as gas mitigation not an EV. I normally recommend the normal hybrid to most people. I wouldn't recommend Prime without the full tax rebate I got my 7500 back just a few weeks ago after a year. The cost difference isn't worth it without the rebate. The car does burn a little gas on its own even if you plug it in all the time and don't let EV range run out. The car will show its in EV only on the center screen, but the HUD can be configured so you can see RPMs of the engine and doesn't report to you at all its turned on the engine
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@@kyrosmike interesting. I did read that on the new Prius prime the car automatically burns gas if none of it has been used for a certain period of time. That makes sense because gas doesn't last forever. I think it has. around a 6 months shelf life.
I really wish the new Prime has AWD like the new Prius Limited...
They couldn't fit it in due to the larger battery on the Prime.
You don’t drop the hood from that high.
I like it a whole helluva lot more than any previous Prius but... At that price and weight, why not a Sonata/Camry hybrid? Mileage isn't that far off.
EV only mode. That's the difference.
600 mil full tank
It reminds me of the Chevy Volt which is unmatched in EV range up to now. I don't see why they can't give you that 52 mile range on all plug-in hybrids. Those are useful miles. 29-39 miles of EV range is not a whole lot. When you factor in hills, speed and wind, those 39 miles will be cut down to to around 32 miles on the freeway. Driving in the city will net you 39 or more with regen braking. I know because I drive an Ioniq plug in hybrid. The styling of the Prius is awesome though. I've only seen 1 on the road so far since their release.
The Volt had better EV range but at the expense of poor MPG. That's the trade off. Why? Because the car has to lug around a heavier battery to get the longer EV range. That heavier battery reduces the MPG when using the gas engine.
The Ioniq plugin remains one of the most efficient cars to date. It's actually more efficient than the Volt overall because the Ioniq plugin has much better MPG when in hybrid mode.
is the battery in the prius prime made in japan or is it a chinese product?
I will look to buy the hybrid or PHEV if Toyota actually has some to sell and dealers don't try to mark them up... but, they will. They certainly will not accept less than MSRP and will force the "Toyoguard" BS and all the other add-ons. Maybe Toyota will actually make enough of these that dealers can't screw its customers like Ford dealers LOVE to do.
Yes, I think that’s the one thing that’s going to mess this car up! Dealers are going to market up and when people think about the higher price for an EV and on top of that there is a markup and high interest rates for loans in the US, it’s just not going to make financial sense.
Find a dealership that doesn't mark them up. They do exist. I put a deposit for a prime at a local dealership and they never sell above MSRP.
A set of sport springs, and maybe dampers, will cure the suspension problems.
coming soon GR Prius.
Please, Toyota give this car rear air vents.
Please define "composure," a term you repeat throughout the review.
People who drive Prius and Subaru on highway are weird economist.
A dealer told me it would have a $4k mark-up… 👉💩
That's bull shit. Find a dealership that doesn't mark it up. They do exist.
@nomenclature9607 I was told the same thing. However, they did say I could get inside one to see how it feels getting in the front, back seats and get a sense of how everything feels when you're in the driver seat. Just that I couldn't drive it
You might want to ask if you can at least do that to get a feel for the ergonomics. Good luck.
Tesla then if Toyota mark-up
What the hell is Composure? Never heard of that car term. Seems like a very subjective term. It could mean different things to different people.
An affordable 4 door Huracan
Funny at first glance, but true when you actually sit in it and experience the windshield angle.
Prius drivers no longer have an excuse to take 2 minutes to get to highway speeds on an on-ramp.
In the fast lane *
Friends- get a Tesla Model 3 or Y, and get up to $7,500 tax break.. oh, and no more oil changes is just the tip of the iceberg with a Tesla!
Like I said, UP TO $7,500… charging is cheaper than gasoline- either at a Supercharger or at home, 30 minutes is only if you need a full charge- who fills up their gas tanks full every time they stop at a station? When Tesla comes out with their $20k car- after they build their new Gigafactory in Monterrey Mexico this year, you can then buy one… and YOU WILL LOVE IT!
@T R most people who work paycheck jobs have that much. Also I charge at home and rarely use public so not sure how I’m paying charging fees…also I have a Hyundai EV. Clearly clueless about electric. And if I need to stop for a road trip, I stop, get a coffee, stretch my legs and in a whole 10-15 mins I have 100-200 miles range…
@@jpmackin Too many pro ev trying to promote the vehicle but evs are not ready for mainstream. Too long to charge, too expensive, and most of all just too much inconvenience on long trips. A gas vehicle is still the way to go for convenience of medium to long trips. Also I was shocked to find out that the $7500 that I kept hearing about wasnt an instant rebate but rather you "may qualify" when I was at the dealer and now only certain vehicles can qualify for the "you may qualify" "tax rebate".
Don’t worry- everyone will have an EV soon. It is the future of transportation.
Sure.. if you qualify and can afford it, get an EV- its FREE MONEY!
Hybrids, the worst of both worlds. All the complexity, weight. It would be great if Toyota from the 80s and 90s came back.
Must be why hybrid Toyotas are so popular as taxis
Funny, was just in NYC for the Auto Show and was blown away to see that the defacto NYC 'Yellow Cab' is now a RAV4 Hybrid. Yes, you see stragglers like a Ford or even a Mercedes Metris, but the vast majority is the Toyota. Who would have thunk a baby buggy would have displaced the venerable Crown Vic!
@@MotoManTV I saw Pruis taxis in Vancouver in 2006 and they were pink. Most taxis in LA are Prius.