Best Setting For Your Pump Controller.
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
- It is often asked what is the best setting to have my water fed pole pump controller set at so in this video we test it out. We have a special guest with us, Ian Shepherd from Spring Europe Ltd who make the UK's leading pump controllers with us. We test different flow setting through different sized hoses which bring up some surprising results.
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What Ian doesn’t know isn’t worth knowing helped me out no end what a legend
He is a font of all wisdom
The legendary Ian. Top man and knowledge that's limitless
Totally agree Austin
Thanks for the vid mate, I've been running my system at 25 for nearly 2 years now. Works for me
If it works for you thats the main thing.
Fantastic video. Really informative and definitely will save me water with my smaller van. Thanks for this. Top work guys!
Glad it was useful. 👍
Great informative video
Well done Sam 👏🏻 😊
Thanks Pete👍
Hi guys, very informative video! I am in the process of building a pump system. I would like to have one pump to use for window cleaning AND softwashing. Firstly, is this possible to do using a controler to manage the pressure/flow and if so which controler would you recommend? The pump will be a 60psi 7gpm. Thanks!
Hi Tim.
Im not 100% sure so you would be best contacting your supplier or spring Europe directly
Great video. I've been using wider brush with 4X1.3mm pencil jets for around 2 months now. My V16 is set at 36(because I don't like odd numbers, lol). Have found I'm getting a faster clean and rinse is a lot quicker than it was using a smaller brush with 2x 1.3mm jets. Am only using slightly more water per day, but am getting through the work quicker,
I’ve been doing this for a while now and it makes a massive difference 👍
@@squeakycleandave1 what brush you been using?
Interest numbers, but I find that a higher pressure helps rinse the windows faster and break up birdmess too. When I’m so used at working at 65 when I drop down to anything below 50 I find work is slower.
Dead right about closing the doors with 6mm.. Very good point
Thank you to Sam and Dave for the opportunity to film this and get a conversation started.
Interesting vid guys, I always have my v16 at 40 & it serves me well. Might try it at 30 for a bit now tho 👍🏻
All depends on the setup. It’s worth when you have 10 minutes just trying it on different settings and measuring what you get 👍
I have a 8mm hose and a 6mm hose system. The 8mm runs at 45 and the 6mm runs at 75. They feel about the same flow rate at the brush end which matches the data you have. Interesting
Great video, thanks to you all. I wonder what difference in battery AH the different speeds make? Is it worth adding a link to your site in the description?
Battery ah shouldn't make any difference to the flow rate. Unless it is an almost dead battery it should only affect how long the pump can operate for
Not 100% sure but I don’t think that the Ah would make any difference as it measures the amount of energy stored in the battery not the power
@@squeakycleandave1 Sorry for confusing things. I more meant the amount of battery power that was used for the 15 seconds to measure the flow rate at various controller numbers. i.e. did it pull 2A at a controller setting of 10 and say 5A on 90?
@@ched999ukI wish we'd had the equipment to test that! When we get the article posted on tcg (this week) Ian Sheppard talks about that. He performed a similar test in the past where he measured that and also the temperature the pump ran at.
@@ched999uk Good question. as a general rule with the flow set between 30 - 40 amp draw per hour is likely to be 2 to 3 amps increasing flow up above 70 might see around 5 to 6 amps an hour. But this will vary slightly. It would be good to repeat the tests using an amp clamp. It is worth mentioning that if the battery voltage is low as Sam commented you may see flow cycling as the battery struggles to draw current from a flat battery
Good research, better way is to drill out your jet sizes to give more water flow and less pressure and ware on the pump and hose’s, move volume of water and less pressure on the glass which flood’s the glass, 70-80 on pump controller, I run 4 pencil jets oversized 3.5mm and 5 mm I/D hose tube on 85 meters with 25 meters take off connecting increments , so you can run smaller sections at a time on smaller area’s which lessens strain on systems 👍🤙
I have to see this! You must use an absolute ton of water with 4 x 3.5mm jets. I tried the wider brush with 4 x 1.4mm jets which used a lot more…
@@crispylimbs I work a lot quicker because you are doing less passes and less rinsing on the glass and no dwelling because you have flooded the glass I’m using 10 to 20 percent more water which doesn’t matter it’s only water, making more money because I’m doing more jobs in a day, saving a day off work in a week👍💰💰
@@FlashTechEngineering I have found this to be the case. you do use more water but thats because you are doing more work
@@squeakycleandave1 also less fatigue working at heights because of the flow and less agitation required .. also makes you work faster because you know your running higher flow rates and don’t want to be wasting the water 😂😂
I do like a Blue Peter moment, but next time don’t forget to use a sheet of sticky backed plastic & finish up with a fully operational Tracey Island 🏝 🤗
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Great video very interesting I will be doing a test myself, rather than sticking up to 100 to rinse conservatory roofs. One thing I'm confused on, does the 6 or 8mm reel hose make any difference if its reducing down to 5 mm anyway to go through the pole hose
That's a great question and it seems that it does make a difference. From what I understand the gradual reduction speeds up the water but reduces the turbulence.
Please let us know the results from your test:-)
As in the video 8mm will give higher flow volume at lower pressure compared to 6mm. The larger hose can carry a little more water with less resistance. The ideal is hood water flow/volume on the glass but at the lowest pressure. Hydrophobic glass benefits for more water volume falling as a curtain across the glass
@@SamuelPeden oversized jets on the 5mm I/D tube basically becomes open flow and no back pressure on pump 4 pencil jets at 3.5mm higher flow is achievable 70-80 on controller, I’m running about 3.5-4.2 litres per minute, a good flood on the glass 👍💰💰
5mm I/D tubing equals approximately 19mm2 so 4 jets x 3.5 mm
great video. thank you. quick question. i believe your using a 100psi rated pump. is that necessary? Could you use a lower rated psi pump and get similar results? Currently using a pump rated at 1.3gpm/100psi but want to use a pump rated more at 3gpm/60psi. Any thoughts? thanks guys
To be honest I don’t know the reason behind it but it’s the industry standard in the Uk
Tend to use higher flow pumps for applications such as softwashing
Great video guys, any chance you could shoot it again with fan jets! 🤣
When you rinse on the glass Sam do you use pencils? Dupont bristles?
I find bristles make more of a difference than jets for rinsing on the glass. Stay away from flocked brushes and test on your own windows to get confidence.the xline rinse bar is really good for it too, their brushes are excellent if you want to try rinsing on
@@SamuelPeden thanks Sam, I've got an xline dupont with rinse bar so I will try on the glass. My everyday is an xline flocked with fan jets, not suitable for on the glass but Rinse-tastic.
Do you unwind hose to calabrate or leave it on reel
We did leave it on for this experiment but it was wound on for all the different size hoses and jets accept for the 1/2” so although it may have made a difference it was an equal comparison
Holy Jazus
Hi dave if i want my pump on full speed, do i really need to buy a controller as ive had my flow on full whack for
7 years thanks
You can run it on full with no controller but on full you don’t always get the best flow rate and turn put your battery and pump under a lot more stress then it needs to be reducing its life expectancy
Hi ive got a v11 control is it worth upgrading to the v16
Any one got any advice
@@martinfretwell if the V11 is working for you then stick with it. If you look at all the advantages of the V16 and think that they would work better than change.
Bloody Hell fellas! Have youse no grass to cut or walls to paint ! 😄
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@@squeakycleandave1 I just couldn't help myself Dave 😄
Hi my controller is now flasing ON OFF. I can't turn it on our OFF without disconnecting the battery. Please help
Sorry for the late reply. Best thing to do is contact your supplier
I use an 8mm hose with 33 pressure on a V16. Seems fine. First cleans I’d whack it up to 50 which I thought used a lot more water but perhaps it’s not that necessary after all.
I like to get plenty of water on the glass. I’m thinking of going back to 8mm hose👍
@@squeakycleandave1 Ridiculously expensive but would thoroughly recommend hi flo rhino hose from reach it. you get the flow and it's incredibly light and a dream to carry and work with, in my opinion. Saves time and effort (I'm 64)
@@christopherbrough4400 I’ve got the same hose, there is nothing that compares to it tbh. The water on the glass is amazing with the rhino hose.
Would have liked to seen 50 degrees and 100 degrees on this experiment. I'm currently using 100 degrees at 70. Making me question whether to lower it
Best thing to do is try it at 50, 60, and 70 for a minute and measure the amount each one gives and see how much water you get on each
@@squeakycleandave1 I'll give it a try! What's the suggested flow per min?
I've tried at 55 and seems pretty good to be fair. Are we saying then that with 8mm more water on the glass less flow rate such as 30-35. But with 6mm you needing to be higher let's say 50ish? Based on all the comments is there actually advantage of 6mm? Surely 8mm be better because you have lower flow on the controller and less strain on pump batteries etc and achieve really good clean? Debating whether 6mm even has advantage over 8mm? Only thing I can think of is its lighter?