"Passion" & "Killed by Death" (2x17-2x18) | BTVS REACTION
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2023
- Hope you enjoy my reaction to Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Season Two Episodes 17 & 18! This one was…um…yeah.
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Can you imagine people who would sit around waiting to see someone’s emotional devastation? Deriving pleasure from watching reactions, looking for tears? What kind of- oh wait…
BWAHAHAHA! Well played!
We're all Angelus.
Touche! 😂
LOL
@@happyslapsgiving5421Oh. Well. Wow.
"The show hasn't made me cry yet"
Oh, my sweet summer child.
My bet is on Sarah McLachlan.
Then blubbering mess for Joss Whedon's special episode in Season 5, it always gets me.
I love the framing of Joyce comforting Willow, who is vocally grieving, while Buffy suffers stoically and alone because she's silent about it. Her mother doesn’t see her suffering, so doesn’t know to comfort her. It's such a brilliant visual representation of what it’s like for Buffy to be the Slayer
Cass on Jenny getting back into Giles and Buffys good books "it'll take awhile but it's going to happen!" said with full confidence. Everyone watching this reaction video "oh dear".
Well, it seems like technically she did get back into Giles' good books before Angelus killed her. It just didn't last very long because shortly thereafter, Angelus killed her (have you ever how often this show has a sad situation finally end shortly before the start of another sad situation)?
"Did he put on the music?" He put on the music, left a note, chilled the wine, spread rose petals and lit a dozen or more candles and placed them on the stairs. It's fucking brutal, but I do love how much effort Angelus puts into being evil.
Oh and re: the floppy disks, the one you see here is 3.5" floppy that were pretty much the final form of the floppy disk before we moved on to other media. They were fairly sturdy. They're called floppy because the even older versions (5.25" and 8") weren't in hard shells, but in thin, flimsy plastic covers and they were, in fact, floppy.
and sometimes the cover was paper and not even plastic. Remember the old days when you bought the cheaper SS floppies and cut a hole with scissors to make them DS :)
"Oh look, someone 3D-printed a save symbol!"
What's always bothered me is Angelus used the same paper he left for Giles as the same paper he left for Buffy (sleeping), Willow (the fish), and the picture of Joyce. So why didn't Giles notice the same paper (and writing).
They even came in fun colors lol
"Is that a floppy disk? Because I know the term, floppy disk, but I don't know what it is." Oh Lord, just punch me in the gut again please. Lol
Don’t feel too bad. I still see the floppy disk on a show like Buffy and think the “newer” fancy type of floppy(the 3.5 inch type with the hard protective shell compared to the more fragile…and kind of floppy 5.25inch type like our Commodore 64 used as a kid in the 80’s… which was the hi tech upgrade from the datasette player). Sigh🫣I’m getting old.
@@coffeeveins they stopped using those in school when I was in either 3rd or 4th grade I believe. Like 93-94-ish
@@coffeeveins lol I was thinking almost the exact same thing. That and how different computers were before Windows 95 came out. Another child of the 80s here.
4:37 - "Has the creator of Buffy done horror movies? Because I want to watch them." Joss Whedon (and fellow Buffy writer Drew Goddard) did one of my FAVORITE horror movies - 'The Cabin in the Woods'!
The Cabin in the Woods is absolutely comedic disgusting brilliance!
One of my favorites too!
Highly recommend but also suggest lots of classics first.
And there was a Buffy movie before the show.
Did I just watch you go through all five stages of grief?
Denial - definitely.
Anger - maybe.
Bargaining - yes.
Depression - yes.
Acceptance - I think so.
The episode did it right then.
Passion is definitely in my top 5, it leans so hard into the psychological horror, and doesn't pull any punches. I love the Angelus narration, Chris Beck's score (the bass percussion especially), Giles at his apartment, the fight, Buffy punching Giles and then hugging him, and the cliffhanger with the floppy disk. Also the direction and cinematography is really on point in this one too. It's just a beautiful film condensed into 40 minutes.
At the beginning of the episdoe Giles telling Buffy to ignore Angelus and not give in to his provacations only for us to see what happens to Giles at the end of it . . .
Grapes are the stereotypical gift you bring someone in hospital, in the UK. As a Brit I never realised that that custom didn't apply in America until I saw some reactions to this episode.
Anyway Giles being British it makes sense.
the same is true in belgium we also bring grapes to the sick
Cass: "The death was so sudden."
Me: "It's always sudden."
Willow crying is too much to take
Any time we see Willow crying or hurting breaks my heart.
@@blacktronlego I have the DVD box set with Whedon interviews. It was common for the crew to brace themselves because "Alyson is crying today."
@@charmingjinx9379 i did not know this but absolutely love that!
Alyson Hannigan strikes again.
Like a yawn, Alyson crying is contagious. It helps that she has those big, almost anime eyes that really carry emotion.
Watching these reactions really reminds me of how well David plays Angelus, he’s such a good villain
I wasn't terribly impressed with his performance as Angel, and then he loses his soul and good lord is he good at playing a bad guy.
@@jmwild1 Yeah David didn't really grow into the Angel role truly until he had his own show. That's when he really started to hit a groove with it. He was always great as Angelus though.
David's acting in season 1 was... beyond cringe. But I keep in mind that he had never really had a proper acting job before Buffy.
He is great on both sides,specially on... Angel :v he is very versatile imo,he can do comedy,horror,drama anything
David Boreanaz doesn’t get enough credit for how he played such an iconic villain.
12:30 Darla bit Joyce. Darla threw her at Angel and he changed. Joyce was already unconscious so she did not know Angel was even there. At the hospital Joyce said that the doctors thought it looked like she fell on a barbecue fork
Denial ain't just a river in Egypt
Angelus' "Passion" is torment. From inflicting the slightest hurt feeling to horrifying agony, mental or physical, that is all he exists for.
That smile while Buffy and Willow weep is pure foul gratification.
Angelus is one of the most monstrous characters ever. Boreanz and Whedon created one for the ages.
There's also the original meaning of the word "passion" from Latin which is "suffering".
When Willow cries, we all cry.
We all know SMG is a great actor, but when Willow shows fear or grief it's just visceral. Can't help but feel it too.
she eats up smg in that scene lol. i love sarah but i never thought her cry-acting was very good, meanwhile alyson has all the most devastating crying scenes in the show.
@@vlad5042To be fair, Buffy's immediate reaction was guilt and responsibility and thinking she caused it to happen. In her own mind, this wouldn't have happened if she (1) hadn't gotten together with Angel and (2) had killed Angel when she had the chance in 2x14. She wasn't as close to Jenny as Willow was (Buffy still felt a sense of betrayal and hadn't worked with Jenny like Willow did). Whatever Buffy was feeling wasn't grief for Jenny; it was horror at herself. I think Joss and SMG played it perfectly.
You can tell they deliberately played with our expectations re: Jenny's death. Angelus chased her for so long, we all get comfortable knowing something will happen at the last minute - Buffy shows up, Giles shows up, werewolf Oz shows up, almighty janitor shows up... and then it's just one short neck snap. Boom.
You said it perfectly. That's exactly what I thought the first time I watched the Passion episode. I really thought Buffy was going to show up at the last minute and save her. I was absolutely shocked when Angelus snapped her neck.
"They"? It was Joss at his sadistic best.
jenny's death is imo the most well-thought out in the show in terms of setup, payoff, and lasting impact (spoiler for the rest of the season and season 3, angel's death in season 2 would beat it if they didnt totally ruin it by bringing him back to life a couple episodes into the next season)
That was boring. He should've turned her into the vampire.
@@malgorzataj6356 That's not a show about vampires.
Oz wasn't a werwolf at the time of Buffys birthday party. I think it is a Oz thing that he just accept the fact that vampires and such exists.
Also the fact that they all live on the Hellmouth and weird stuff happens all the time. Being given that final piece of the puzzle probably isn't all that surprising.
He might have been. He was bit by his cousin Jordy after Oz tickled him. Oz might have tickled him prior to Buffy's birthday if it occurred within the 29 days before Phases (which I think it did).
@@visarr no. He told Buffy and the others that gis cousin bit him recently. If I remember correctly, he still had the bandaid on.
We don’t know when his cousin bit him.
@@jeanetteking434 Oz is wearing the Band-Aid and tells Larry in the gym that he was bit.
Fun fact: Charisma Carpenter (Cordelia) and Robia LaMorte (Jenny) were both the same age in real life, born 1970 😊
i didn't know, she aged well but i think her older
Both ~28 in this part of Season 2 (i.e. 1998).
The actor who portrayed Xander was only one year younger, though, so . . . 🤷♂
cordelia always looked way too old to be in high school (not an insult cuz shes like maybe the most beautiful woman on the show but she definitely looks like a beautiful teacher and not a student).
God, I feel old. Yes, it is a floppy disk.
Update: those things are not as flimsy as you might think. A little dust on the cover would do nothing (yes, what we see is actually a protective cover, the disk itself is inside). The fall itself had a small chance of damaging the contents, although even if it did, it won't be a huge damage and such a computer nerd as Willow would probably be able to restore it.
that's because they are the new fancy 3.5" floppies, the older ones that we used on the microcomputers, the 5.25" (and larger) where really flimsy since the cover was just a thin sheet of paper and not the hard plastic the 3.5" ones had.
as long as the disc itself doesn't get bent. I remember that happening with the 5.25 ones and then not working right.
With a whopping 1,44 MB of data storage (when dos formatted) 😂
I can accept a child being young enough to not recognize a floppy disk, but another adult being young enough to not recognize a floppy disk definitely makes me feel old.
My favorite bit of Buffy trivia that I learned fairly recently is about the gorgeous piano piece that plays during 2x17 Passion - it's called Remembering Jenny, and we hear it several times during the episode. During the scene over Jenny's grave, the vocals were recorded by Anthony Stewart Head. (I never knew Giles himself was singing on that). Also the track was sampled by Ed Sheeran for his song Afire Love.
I never knew that. had to go back and listen and now can here Anthony's voice distinctly. Thanks for that bit of trivia. :)
Wow, I never knew any of that.
In my opinion, Passion is the episode where the writing for the show really began to hit its stride. The writers knew where they were with the characters and how they wanted to take the series going forward, the stories they wanted to tell etc
The quality generally goes up from here (with one or two notably duff episodes along the way) and begins to establish the reputation it now holds as a show.
For me it starts with Innocence. It’s an uneven arc because this is a show that had to fill 22-episode seasons; thus we get semi-filler eps like “Killed by Death.” But there’s an ever-upward trend until we get to the greatest season in the history of television…
Tbh I think even Lie to Me showed hints of what this show could become, even though it wasn’t related to the Angelus storyline it still showed something deeper. Then it stepped up with Innocence, and then properly changed the game with Passion.
@@emme2141I consider Lie to Me a thesis for the shows themes
@@mjtpli I prefer a longer season with fillers than shorter non-stop seasons. More time for world-building and character development. I like GoT, but it always felt rushed and I didn't get enough time to spend with the characters. I would have loved more scenes with Arya training with the sword for example. Season 8 was a downer for me though. Too much, too fast. Why is Varys everywhere all at once. I believe that a viewer needs time to absorb the story. Buffy did it right with highs, lows, and regular life pacing.
When Cordelia is in the hospital talking about Buffy getting something removed from her face, I think that's a deep callback to the Buffy movie from 1992 with Kristy Swanson. The slayer is supposedly marked by a mole or beauty mark that shows her strength and the movie Buffy talks about having had her "hairy mole thing" removed.
The lighting looks just fine. The purple/lavender is nice & not overwhelming, it’s pretty. This is perfect, as it is. 👍
Angelus looking through the window at Willow and Buffy's reaction is all of us watching Cass.
lmao true 💀
@14:36 Yes, that is a floppy disk. Most common size was/is 1.44 megabytes. They were the most convenient media for sharing data in the nineties. They were slow, saving a handful of small text documents to a floppy would take several seconds, but for the time, it was state of the art. They make a distinctive noise when reading and writing. Today they would be considered loud. I miss them.
When I first started working I remember using the 5.25" floppy disks which were actually floppy and bendable.
Wasn't really state of the art, there were much better data storage solutions but floppy disks were cheap and cheerful and almost every computer had a floppy disk drive so very convenient.
I still have a box of them that I need to go through.
@@shercahnsame.
Now I am hearing the noise in my head
"Is that a floppy disk?"
Me: *bursts into flames like a vampire exposed to the sun*
Vampires rise from graves because they drank a vampire's blood before they died from being drunk from the siring vampire. It takes a while for the change to happen, so they are buried as a dead person.
Xander's not the sharpest (intellectually or emotionally) tool in the shed, but we love him all the same.
@jimb0jon3s I don't blame you. 🤣🤣🤣
And we're all here for that: the shock, the denial, the grief, the anger... One of the best eps in the whole series, with great performances by the whole cast: SMG, DB, Alyson... and ASH really nails it, his expression turning from joy to horror, oh my!
Among the near-endless number of things to praise about Passion, it's one of the most important and moving in regard to the Buffy/Giles relationship (my favorite on the show). The conclusion when she hits then embraces him of course, but the earlier scene with Jenny 10:10 where she quietly says "I don't want him to be lonely" gets to me even more. 😢
I watch this show about once a year and Jenny's death still chokes me up. Even just seeing the little bit in this reaction, without the full build up, I teared up. 😅
Ah passion, when this little vampire show hits you in the guts for the first time, but not for the last time :)
Youre one of us now
Passion is the episode when Angelus goes from a good to an iconic villain. From the grotesque tableau he sets up at Giles’ house, to the monologue and the pleasure he ekes from Buffy’s suffering, Angelus is a menacing and mesmerising adversary.
One thing I love about Xander: while he doesn't have superpowers, he can push pretty hard with willpower alone. That confrontation with Angelus in the hospital? Priceless. This "kill me if you like, but you'll make things worse for yourself" is something he excels at. He really can stand his ground.
And Cordy? She can say a lot of things that are mean but true; at the same time, she can take those being said to her. When Giles has his "tact" moment, I think, Cordy is more amused than disturbed.
"Love might be in the air in this episode"
Oh boy.
Indeed 😄😢
Joss Whedon did “Cabin in the Woods.” A horror film. Highly recommend
He cowrote the screenplay, he didn't direct it
Time goes by so fast. That movie was on everybody's lips. Like someone in 2035 saying: "Greta Gerwig did "Barbie". A divisive comedy about a doll." Well, maybe it wasn't that well-known, but still, lol.
@@apetass123 I expect someone saying that. Prove me wrong.
She needs to watch some classics before watching CinW.
It's not that Spike finds Angelus too much evil to handle. It's that Spike and Angelus are butting heads vying for dominance. They both have too big of egos and Angelus really knows how to push Spikes (Everyone's) buttons.
Plus Dru has a thing for her ‘daddy’ and Angelus knows it. They are very obviously getting it on, both behind Spike’s back and in plain sight of him, and there is nothing he can do about it. He’s a notorious vamp who got fame for killing slayers, and now he is stuck in a wheelchair unable to walk, let alone fight his stronger, psychotic grand-sire who’s banging his girl! No wonder he cant stand angelus.
Angelus is older than Spike. Do you know that actually they both have a name WILLIAM? And Spike is the youngest of the group
Underrated dialogue - Buffy's "You make me sick" to Der Kindestod.
Passion is my favorite episode of the series, it's the perfect Buffy story and shows how truly dangerous Angelus is
No episode with Angelus will *EVER* be my favorite of *ANYTHING!X-[*
The way Angel sets up Calendar’s body for Giles to find is so cruel. It’s definitely the cruelest we’ve seen him in this show to this point in the show.
yeah i think it was a necessary shock to the system. too many people before this i think are not invested enough in the question of whether angel can really be redeemed after this because until this point he doesnt hurt any characters we actually know (except emotionally). he needed to take out someone the audience cared about and in the particularly cruel way he did for us to see that theres kind of no coming back from this.
Passion is literally one of my favorite episodes of the whole buffy the vampire slayer series, it shows you Angelus' character just when people are quick to forget that he is the villain of the season. My favourite episodes of the season has to be becoming part 1 & 2, as well as for the whole series- season 2 is my favourite- excited to see your reaction on the upcoming episodes 😊
Joss Whedon has done SEVERAL movies but the Horror movie he wrote & produced is The Cabin in the Woods and it’s def worth watching!
LOL I feel like Willow crying has more of an effect on us because she actually does other facial expressions with it, while buffy usually just has eyes wide open and stares when she cries- it feels more numbing in the way buffy cries vs. willow's more emotional crying.
Been waiting for you to get here. Passion is just 😘. Angelus working his particular flavor of artistry.
"Is that a floppy disk?"
Yes, at least, a version of one. The kind of disk in this episode is the most modern, non-floppy kind of floppy disk. The term originated with older, thinner, bigger, and actually floppy disks, and we just sort of kept calling all disks "floppy disks."
It was Spike who showed his face to Joyce in episode 2x03 | "School Hard", Cass.
Oz was not a werewolf when he found out about vampires.
but do you think he had like..supernatural blood that just wasnt triggered yet? you know?🤷♀️
@@officialcassreactsnope. Totally human until he got bit
@@godmagnus Agree.
The background humming in the song at 24:24 is Anthony Stewart Head (aka Giles), adds to the impact. The song is called Remembering Jenny for any one wanting to find it on YT.
She was named Calendar because her days were numbered. True story.
I said in season one that the reason that I could never really love Xander the way lots of people do, is the things he says and does, the choices he makes, when he’s being motivated by jealousy and insecurity. This whole “I told you so” moment, not even considering the very probable consequences for Giles, because all he’s thinking about is killing Angelus, something he’s wanted since Buffy got together with Angel is another instance of that for me.
i'm so glad i saw a comment similar to mine! i cannot stand xander for these exact reasons and it's such an unpopular opinion in the buffyverse. i love how all the characters are flawed, but xander is just...UGH imo. he is so selfish and being a hormonal teenager can only explain so much. heck, even s1 cordy is FAR more redeemable even when she is blatantly coded as the "mean girl" and before we see her character transformation.
I haven't even started watching yet, just had to stop to tell you that the thumbnail is sending me
Fun fact: the original intention was for Angelus to kill Oz during Passion, but the public liked him so much they killed Jenny instead
As someone who graduated high school the same year as Buffy, I am so amused at how the floppy disk is becoming harder and harder for reactors to recognize. "Oh, it's like a little external hard drive." Yeah, a teeny tiny external hard drive that can hold about five word documents. 😂 And there was no INTERNAL hard drive, so anything you wanted to save was on those disks. We all had a big box of them next to our computers. (OK, computers had an internal hard drive by the mid-90s, but I remember when they didn't!)
Yep. Unfortunately, it takes away from the immediate moment when we all went "Oh - the info is on there" to youngsters saying "WTF is that??". It reminds me of an old O'Henry short story (he always had a twist at the end) in which the last line was "It was made of paste". It confused us youngsters at the time as we didn't use paste to mean "fake" at that point.
@@visarr Oh, I don't know about that. I think they all instinctively know it has data on it like a flash drive, and I love them trying to remember the name, like me with 8-tracks and betamaxes and stuff probably.
Oh, I only know "paste" because I love old english murder mystery books like Agatha Christie stuff! People are always talking about how so-and-so is being snooty about their gems but they're only paste. I do wonder how long it'll take before the 1920s is as hard to understand as Shakespeare!
08:06 I think Karma heard something about eating puppies and got nervous XD
Also, Joss didn't direct any horror movies, but he did write The Cabin in the Woods, and it's great ;)
He co-wrote the film with director and Buffy writer Drew Goddard.
Didnt he write, or co-write Alien?
Jenny was decades ahead of her time, using Large Language Models in the 1990s!
Righ? I was thinking about that!
4:45 well the creator and showrunner, had very little film experience before Buffy (he studied at Wesleyan '87 but mostly writing) and he was basically a writer. He directed the unaired pilot and he learned before his very first directing effort: Prophecy Girl. Even with his first attempt he was easily the best Buffy director (I mean: until Passion we have Prophecy, When She Was Bad, Lie To Me, Innocence...) and that was a very top down show and also in that period Joss did pretty much everything (story concept, storybreaking, he rewrote maaaany scenes, was on set every day, at the editing bay, with the musics etc). So yeah: it was his style. However he had an experienced director by his side, his 2nd in command and co-showrunner, David Greenwalt. He directed one of the most enjoyable and emotionals (very Buffy) teen films in the 80s: Secret Admirer. Finally, at this point of the series, Buffy had not its resident directors (they came around S3 and fully formed S4). The ones who Joss trust because they knew what he wanted. Same with writers (half formed S3, fully S4). By then Joss, Greenwalt and Noxon wrote almost everything.
Yup, that was a floppy disc. A three & 1/4 inch floppy disc to be exact. It likely had a storage capacity of just 1.44 MEGAbytes. The term "floppy" actually comes from that versions predecessor, the five & 1/2 inch floppy disc, which was actually, you know, floppy.
Welcome to the Whedonverse where beloved characters die suddenly. This is why we can't have nice things...
Your reaction to a floppy disk is aging me and i'm turning into dust
Your little journey with naming the floppy disc was adorable, but also made me realize you're younger than I realized 😅 I'm gettin old.
I felt so old when you said "Is that a floppy disk?" :D I used floppy disks until circa 2004 !
Yes, it is a 3.5-inch floppy disk, which was an order of magnitude improvement over the 5.25-inch inch floppy disk.
RE: "Killed by Death." "I was expecting a heavy grief episode, but we had a "monster of the week" (episode). Good point. But, I think at least with Giles, he's kind of "prepared" himself for hardship. In S01 Episode 5, "Never Kill a Boy yadda yadda," Giles talked about being raised, knowing that his father and grandfather were Watchers, and that was the progression intended for him. His Ripper years may have delayed it, but now, here he is, a full-fledged Watcher.
Plus, there's the stereotype of Brits (or, ya know, everybody) "keeping a stiff upper lip," "keep calm and carry on," etc. Not saying it's healthy, just that it is a thing that might pertain to poor Rupert.
Also, in real life, grief tends to have its own messed up timetable. On TV, grief usually occurs on a more predictable schedule. I think this show shoots to reflect the more genuine aspects of the complexity of human feelings, than the average TV show does.
'I know the term "floppy disk" but I don't know what a floppy disk is'
I can't remember another sentence that made me feel old like this one did.
Your refusal to accept Ms Calendar’s death is re-breaking my heart. Truly one of the most shocking deaths on tv in the 90s.
14:33 Yes, that's a "floppy disk," but it's a next-gen style that actually was only floppy on the inside and had a harder protective shell. The original floppy disks were bigger, black, and flexed much more.
Regarding your thoughts on Sunnydale all I will say is this, there's a reason there's an honest-to-goodness magic shop (that sells actual magical artifacts) is on Main Street in downtown Sunnydale. I would guess (and this is a total guess) but as many as half of the residents of Sunnydale could be fully aware that vampires, demons & magic are all very much real. The other half are deep in denial. One thing that always tickled me (because it makes so much sense) is that Sunnydale seems to have a rep (even outside the town) among the emergency services (cops, paramedics) for being a place where weird shit happens.
Aww Cass, I was with you. This one still breaks my heart. Apparently SPOILER they shot the Giles-Willow-Buffy phone call for real and Tony Head says it's one of the hardest scenes he has ever played.
The siring process for turning someone into a vampire in the Buffyverse: The vampire drinks your blood, but not quite enough to kill you right away. Then they make you drink a little of their blood, which evidently attracts a new demon to your body. Sometime after that you die, your soul departs and the demon takes over and re-animates your body; the time that takes seems to vary from a few hours to a couple of days. Your body can be embalmed and buried during that time, then you have to wait to crawl out of your grave until after sundown. If your family cremates you I guess the demon is SOL.
Yes that was a floppy disk. A 3.5" one which to us old nerds was the new type (coming from the really floppy/wiggly 5.25" ones that didn't have a hard plastic cover).
Wow, Cass. You went through the stages of Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Grief, and Acceptance so fast I'm surprised you didn't get whiplash!
Joss Whedon really only did TV, but he did direct the first two Avengers films and Serenity (which was the finale to his show Firefly).
He did write Alien: Resurrection, Toy Story and other films.
PASSION
Oh yeah, one of my favorite episodes of the series, such a turning point and another example of main/recurring characters that are not safe. Angelus is here like a cat playing with his food and what's even more evident here is he doesn't feed on her, showing that Angelus is even more devious.
The scene of Giles finding Calendar was very shocking, the music just amplified that.
Giles busting in there was amazing, showing that Giles is actually holding back and we get to see a hint of his Ripper persona.
Buffy's reaction by hitting Giles and saying "I can't do this alone" is important to note since her first Watcher died protecting her (you can either see the film that butchered Whedon's script or read the comic that Whedon made)
The Floppy Disk is actually floppy, I remember the original floppy disc. Those that you see here are 3 1/2 A Floppy Disk that aren't actually floppy. They were like flash drives or SD cards back in the day.
KILLED BY DEATH
The thing on Buffys face is never addressed.
The Freddy Krueger companion is something many have talked about.
I think Cordelia's reaction is understandable, she probably doesn't feel like Xander would protect her like he's trying to protect Buffy (or even Willow) and remember too that Cordelia did give up her social circle for Xander so he should be giving her that confidence
The demon may not be the exact same one, it's possible there's more than one, we'll never know though.
How do the writers come up with this stuff? Well a demon sucking the life out of kids, the eyes are the windows to the soul and that's how he sucks in their soul.
Buffy has a strong immune system but she's still human. It's possible that Buffy overworking herself is what weakened her but she can still get sick, it's just rare.
Get ready for the finale, we have 1 more episode I'd say is great, 1 that's not so much but then the fantastic two part finale
Also love AC/DC
I will eagerly be awaiting your "The Cabin in the Woods" reaction. I think you will like it.
Originally they were developing a BBC series for Giles called Ripper but it never came to fruition. It was going to be a sort of gothic horror series.
Also Joyce did see spike in vampire form when she hit him with an ax and said stay the hell away from my daughter. But also an episode where darla threw Joyce to angel.
Also calendars death caught everyone by surprise when it originally aired. From this point buckle up this made every teen ready to run home from high school to watch what was happening in Buffy and Dawsons creek lol.
In Britain it is traditional to bring grapes or some other type of fruit to people in the hospital.
Indeed. In Ireland too (and I'd wager in Australia and New Zealand as well). I'm literally just now realising this isn't a universal custom.
@@s.leochapman417 Yah, I only know it cause I watch a lot of British Television shows. So I assumed that it was a strictly British thing.
How much do you want to bet that Ryan grows up to become a demon hunter. He was brave to try and lead the kids to the basement to hide from the demon. He has hero material, and he knows about the supernatural.
Alyson Hannigan is absolutely great at facial acting and hitting home runs with words. Willow is my favorite character on the show, just because Alyson does such a great job.
In the commentary for Innocence, Joss Whedon said, "When in doubt, put Willow in danger."
I'm pretty sure Oz's reaction to learning about the supernatural was simply due to the fact that Oz is as chill and cool as a person can be! Nothing really stirs him
For someone to be turned into a vampire, first they have to suck your blood, then you have to suck their blood. It's a whole big sucking thing.
For a show with a lot of pointy wooden stabby sticks from day one, it's remarkable that this is where it really develops Stakes.
Nice one
I have a personal gripe with 3.5" floppy disks because when I was a teenager, I drew hundreds of images in MS Paint and you couldn't even store one single bmp file on these disks, so all of them got lost due to some virus about 20 years ago. :(
"I know the term floppy disk, but I'm not sure what it is." Well now I feel old...
Joss whedon did actually a horror movie and its a really good one. It turns your expectations upside down.
Its called: "Cabin in the woods"
The fact that you wasn't sure if it was called a floppy disk made me feel really really old lol
Souls are slipperier than a greased weasel
Ok the best defence I can offer for Xander's "faster pussycat, kill kill" monologue is this: he is 17, angry, emotional & kind of a dork at the best of times. Obviously what he said was utter bollocks but the scene needed somebody saying "we shouldn't stop Giles, we should help him" & based on historical biases it had to be Xander. Yeah he could have put it better but as previously stated, he's 17 & a dork so what ya gonna do ?
As effective as the Kindestod is, I got completely distracted by the late great Willie Garson popping up as a security guard.
The fandom hates Xander but he is a realistic character that says the hard thing sometimes even if its not correct. We cant all be perfect all the time.
I never got the Xander hate ALL the main cast have flaws and make lots of mistakes if anything Buffy and others make far more mistakes and do far worse things that Xander but he is an easy target imo.
I have never hated Xander. Is he wrong and obnoxious? Yes. Did I know that guy in high school? Yep, and he wasn’t a horrible person, he just hadn’t grown up yet.
without spoilers I would say Xander is the most stable of the core scoobies @@salyx
No, but we don't wallow in our sins. We learn from our mistakes and be better people. Xander isn't realistic as much as he's an avatar of JW, and knowing what JW is, he's not much of a paragon of virtue.
For me Xander is like the trouble child a lot of times I love him, but sometimes I just want to slap him in the head and say shut the fuck up (I will not do this to a real child it’s just exaggerating)
Making a new vampire in the Buffyverse needs the vampire to drain someone of blood until they're almost dead, then the victim needs to drink some of the vampire's own blood (meaning that they still need to be alive at that point). The victim then dies, and as far as normal people are concerned, they're just a corpse which died of neck trauma and blood loss.
The victim rises as a new vampire some time later: hours or days (the exact time seems to vary). A Buffyverse vampire is the corpse of a dead person walking around with a demon controlling it, though it retains the memories of its previous human self.
If you ever get a chance, I really suggest watching the DVDs that have all this extra commentary from the creators. I'm pretty sure it was there that they said that Jenny's death was completely deliberate, because 1) It raises the stakes for the whole show, because it says they aren't afraid to kill off a major character. 2) It makes Angelus into a full villain so that Buffy and also the audience can fully commit to being against him as the antagonist. 3)It continues Giles's character arc from mild mannered librarian into becoming a braver person.
Angelus snaps a neck in Passion and then Buffy does it in Killed By Death.
Oh, and I love the poster of Billy Joel's The Stranger in your new location.
Now I feel old! Yup, that was a 'floppy' disc, well almost. Before that type there was a 5 1/4 inch disc that was flexible, that was called a floppy disc. This 3 1/2 inch version replaced it and despite being rigid it was still called floppy. FYI it could only hold 1.44 Mb of data, plenty of room for a simple soul restoration spell or two.
Since I don't see it near the top of the comments, just a refresher on how to become a vampire in the Buffy universe:
1. Vampire bites a human and drinks from them to the point where they will die from blood loss if nothing else is done
2. Vampire feeds the dying human their blood (it's unclear how much is needed, but it's not very much)
3. Human dies
4. The next night, the human rises as a new vampire. Sometimes by that time they've been buried already, sometimes they are in a morgue. Often, since making a new vampire is an intentional act, the maker (or "sire") will bury their new vampire-to-be themselves or otherwise make some sort of arrangement for their return.
When I was a teenager I had the "passion" quote by Angel on my wall lol 🤣 I was so moody.
LOL i would still have on my status' right now and I'm all grown up 😊🤣-guess I stayed moody
I meeeeeean it is an amazing monologue @@AndrastesGrace_
I'm not sure if this was answered, so, here is what I got off the top of my head. Those are 3.5" floppy disks. They were an improvement over earlier 5.25" disks in that they had a rigid exterior and could hold more data. At this time, there was also optical storage (CDs), but floppy disks were more common as they were much less expensive and could more easily be rewritten. There were also a technology called zip disks at this time. While zip disks could hold much more data, they were significantly more expensive and were killed off by optical storage in CD and DVD media. I do not believe there were USB sticks commonly available at this time.
Why do I still get so fricken scared when Miss Calendar is working on the restoration spell etc, it’s unreal. I get goosebumps and when her eyes look up and see Angel and she jumps I still jump!
16:23 Yeah, I had the same look and stunned reaction when I first saw it. Totally paralyzed in shock as the brain was processing it
Passion is in my top 10 Buffy episodes a freakin'g roller coaster.
It was Darla (the blonde vamp that was one of the Master's minions) that attacked Joyce in the S1 ep "Angel" then tried to get Angel to drink from her & for a moment he seemed tempted. Buffy then arrived home & caught him in a very compromising position, holding a bleeding Joyce with his vamp face on. Well remembered (almost) :D
Since you asked, here's a refresher on how siring a vampire works:
First, the vampire bites the human and drinks a lot of their blood. Then the vampire cuts themself and lets the human drink some of the vampire's blood. Then the human dies; their soul goes off to wherever human souls go after death. The corpse remains dead for a while, often long enough to be buried. Then a particular type of demon spirit, let's call it a vampire spirit, enters the corpse and reanimates it, and you get your regular Buffyverse vampire. It has the memories of the human, but it's a different consciousness with a different mentality (drive to prey on humans, lack of conscience, comically sadistic, and so on).
In the case of Angel, the curse crammed his soul back in his body without displacing the vampire spirit (we saw in The Dark Age how that third spirit tried to possess Angel put got wrecked by the vampire spirit). So Angelus was still there, but the human soul gives him a conscience that leaves him wracked with guilt over the things he did. The curse had that weird "moment of perfect happiness" clause so that Angel, fearing the return of Angelus, wouldn't ever let himself be happy; he was supposed to actively keep himself miserable for the rest of his days. Unfortunately, love causes people to make bad decisions...