I’m at 25 miles on my novablast 4. Been using it and the vomero and brooks gts for my daily runs. Love the novablast and vomero for comfort. Love the videos. Escaped the hotel room. lol 😂 my Sunday run was just 8 miles this week as I’m doing a half this comming Sunday plan to pace just under 11 min pace. I’m at 245 miles for the year, you’re probably around 1000. Lots of respect for the work you put in both on your runs and the videos and the spell site I know all take a lot of time. Appreciate all of the info! Buz Aldren. Lol😂
Couldn’t agree more with your take on the NB 4 and the Rebel 4. I just started increasing mileage in December and bought some NB at launch. I prefer these to my Triumph 20s for long runs. Just picked up Rebel 4 last week and it’s looking like these 2 are going to be the center of my rotation this year. Loving both… will probably be checking for discounts at the end of the year when their cycle runs through to double up.
Nice Review Mr Hobby Jogger, like the honest indepth information. The Asics NB3's had a TR model with more aggressive sole, hoping Asics would consider creating a model for the NB 4's, I just saw on the Asics website that there's a TR version of the NB4
Matt from DOR said that a lot of shoes intended to be faster have that disconnected heel and forefoot. The Endorphin Speed seems to have it, too. I pulled out my Novablast 3 for a couple of runs and they felt more protective than the Deviate Nitro 2 and no slappiness as a midfoot striker; too bad I bought them 1/2 size too small. They do have a Novablast 4 TR for those who need extra grip. I'm trying to increase my mileage (a little) and I agree with you in feeling like I need a little extra protection. Enjoy your vacation.
"The rubber is terrible, but it will be terrible forever" :D Yeah, i think they went for durability above everything else. Mach 5 without a proper outsole was much better on wet and i think the durability was ok. On most shoes the midsole dies 1st anyway. Nova 4 is generally a good workhorse shoe for everyday runs. Not exciting, not energetic but comfy and durable. And it definitely needs some time to break in.
Greet from Indonesia, thanks for great review. Right now I Had Saucony triumph 21 (for recovery and very easy run), boston 12 (for daily trainer and tempo session), and superblast (for long run and race day). are you recommend novablast 4 for replacing my boston 12 (already reach 600 miles/820km)? I prefer more firmer shoes than soft and bouncy shoes. Hope your channel growing fast, your analysis is very deep and very helpful
Novablast 4 tr is out now. I am ordering a pair. I do really easy trails and road running, but I live in Trondheim in Norway and it rains quite alot. Heard the Tr of the 3 was good for wet conditions on roads, so hopefully it will be a good road to trail shoe.
What’s weird is that you can’t find any reviews on the trail versions. I’m not sure if it’s because it’s exactly the same or just no one is interested. The tread is different. Seems like the “lugs” are a little deeper.
Nice review man! Would consider to try these one day. They look nice and comfortable for slow recover runs. Not sure if you mentioned it, but how would you say the Saucony Speed 4 shoe compares to these NB4’s?
Man, I go back through your past videos and I appreciate the work you do.. I’m preparing to start my first marathon training , and I’m looking to build my stack .. I have the Triumph 21 and Tempus at about 200 miles , Speed 3 at 150, Rebel V4 at 125, and my race day is the Pro 3 at about 110, which still feels awesome as I raced in a Half last weekend. Long story short , I am looking for my Saturday long run shoe. I’ve been eyeing the Novablast 4 and the NB SC Trainer V3. I tested the SCv3 and it felt firm, but I hear it softens up . I am leaning towards to the Novablast 4 with the value and what it does.. May I have your thoughts sir ?
Thanks for the kind words! Novablast 4 is my favorite non plated long run shoe - its stable and comfortable without being too heavy. It's not the bounciest but it's great for protection and time on feet. Perfect for what you need since you already have so many bouncy shoes like the Tempus, triumph, speed 3
I vote triumph 20/21 for the most basic but effective. Brooks ghost and a 12mm drop, would be good for my Achilles tendinitis. But I need to sleep on the brooks as I have way to many shoes. 😂
@@torifogg7736 nothing is good per say but higher drop shoes will take some pressure off the Achilles. If I walk around on tip toes my Achilles feels great but when I run it hurts so I have been going for higher drop shoes and even adding heal cups to some of them.
hey man, i would really appreciate your suggestion on the sizing for Novablast 4. because i think theyre using different sizing in CM compare to the sizing used in other brands like new balance. because here in indonesia for the bigger size, Novablast are only available for US11 (28.5CM) and US12 (29.5CM). and i most comfortable with a 29CM (which is US11 for my new balance 1080) i consider myself as a bigger runner with 6'1 ft and 210 lbs, and try to condition myself to be back in shape by using max cushioned shoes in the past 4 months for my daily slow runs. now im exploring other shoes options for my daily runs but still able to absorb those impacts and protect my knees & legs from the heel striking/landing. oh by the way, i recently saw your channel and already watched 15 videos in last saturday alone haha. really love it. very objective, with awesome detail, and a proper video duration in a very entertaining way. gain 1 subscriber from indonesia ✌😁❤
Thanks for the kind words! I'm glad you found the channel 🙌🏽 I would go for the same size you have in the 1080. It fits true to size but if you have to choose between a bigger and smaller I'd go bigger
@@ryanmiskin8925 no I kept everything basically the same just slightly slower pace. I now have around 200 miles in them now and I have to say they are one of my favorite shoes. My knees stopped hurting after 40ish miles. I’m guessing they needed some breaking in?
If you want another protective shoe to rotate with the 1080 then it would make sense - but they are best for the same types of runs. 1080 is a lot softer than the Novablast but I like them both for those relaxed everyday miles. If you want something firmer to pair with the 1080 then it would be a good choice
Do you think stack heights will get much higher than the current level for the mainstream of the market? I've heard some industry watchers say the next big trend will be toward cutting mass, and in conjunction with continuing advances in foam engineering, will feed a downward trend in stack heights.
Yeah I agree the next frontier for speed/race shoes is weight. For training shoes it's definitely bounce and comfort, so the stack heights will keep going up. In my experience, 47mm to 50mm seems to be the point where it no longer feels like running in a regular shoe anymore and starts to feel really unnatural. Also you have to make foams pretty firm or add a stiffening agent like a plate once you get to 50mm. So with the current technology I don't see running shoes going much past 50mm without the ride experience feeling super weird
You sayin Japan doesn't rain is not true because Japan has the rainy season and generally rainy and humid country. Anyways it says they use AHAR outsole. So guess that keeps the price low but not so good traction in wet conditions. Maybe the trampoline inspired outsole design with AHAR is not good. I do hear other reviewers say NB4 can be slippery so agree to get something else when it's wet.
With all due respect I gotta disagree with Yowana about the NB4's suitability as a lifestyle shoe. I'm on a max heart rate restriction because of a cardiological issue. So I walk a lot, typically over 5 miles per day, some carefully controlled (zone 1/2) jogging mixed in. A lot of my walking is accomplished by taking walks during the day at the office. So most of my running shoes are also walking shoes. I have NB4s, SL2s, Cliftons, Hurricane 24s, and Cloud 5s in my 'walk/jog' rotation, and I find the NB4s to be excellent in this capacity, as comfortable as any of them except the Hurricanes. And I think they look cool! (I have the black/blue/neon yellow colorway.) De gustibus non est disputandam, I guess lol
What would be your recommendation for a first shoe for somebody getting serious, $160 US dollar budget. I want to get into doing 10k/half marathons. I do 5k's daily now and want to improve dinstance. I have a awful APL shoe right now that's flat, no give and awful.
this one or hoka mach 6 - both are $140. get the mach 6 if you want something light, bouncy and fun. it's a great shoe for up to 90 minutes and will have a lot more pop than what you're running in now. the novablast 4 is a good choice if you want a little more support - it's a great shoe for bigger runners and long runs an hour+ but can be on the firm side and feel like too much cushion for shorter runs. i'd go with the mach 6 and then if you feel like you're maxing out its capabilities doing a lot of longer runs, add a second shoe with more cushion like the novablast or a plated shoe. but for now mach 6 will be a nice upgrade
Hey, please advise on the size. In all the running shoes I order, I take US size 12, which means an insole length of 30 cm. I then have sufficient toe room for long distances. Asics, on the other hand, states that size US 12 has an insole length of 29.5 cm. Only size US 12.5 is a 30 cm insole. Can anyone relate this to their size in the Novablast 4 - is it better to look at the US size or the insole length?
There is a TR option for light trails (and rain / a bit of snow) available. The shoe is 20-30g havier but fixes the extremly bad outsole at least. I really dont understand how so much effort can go into a shoe while totally ignoring the outsole in the process. Give it at least a good pattern and not this cool looking but useless thing...
Typically women's are narrower - running warehouse has a ton of availability in this colorway and a bunch of different men's colorways though. And bonus you can support the channel if you use my link 😉 www.runningwarehouse.com/ASICS_Novablast_4/descpage-AM4NB05.html?from=supwell
@@supwell I’m fat lol 6”2 225 I was 250 i was just curious I’m going to compress it different than you is the only reason I ask thanks for the content.
Man, you’re cranking out these miles and getting 100mile reviews out fast af
I’m at 25 miles on my novablast 4. Been using it and the vomero and brooks gts for my daily runs. Love the novablast and vomero for comfort. Love the videos. Escaped the hotel room. lol 😂 my Sunday run was just 8 miles this week as I’m doing a half this comming Sunday plan to pace just under 11 min pace. I’m at 245 miles for the year, you’re probably around 1000. Lots of respect for the work you put in both on your runs and the videos and the spell site I know all take a lot of time. Appreciate all of the info! Buz Aldren. Lol😂
Couldn’t agree more with your take on the NB 4 and the Rebel 4. I just started increasing mileage in December and bought some NB at launch. I prefer these to my Triumph 20s for long runs. Just picked up Rebel 4 last week and it’s looking like these 2 are going to be the center of my rotation this year. Loving both… will probably be checking for discounts at the end of the year when their cycle runs through to double up.
would love to see you race bro!
gonna pick up this shoe during their upcoming sale next month, thanks for the suggestion!
The trampoline is real if you mid/forefoot strike, really fun to bop along
Nice Review Mr Hobby Jogger, like the honest indepth information. The Asics NB3's had a TR model with more aggressive sole, hoping Asics would consider creating a model for the NB 4's, I just saw on the Asics website that there's a TR version of the NB4
When Yowana packs to go away, it's a suitcase of just shoes😂
Picking up my Novablast 4s tomorrow. Can't wait to try 'em out! Current rotation is Kayano 30 + Magic Speed 4 (yeah I'm an Asics man)
"like a xanax for your foot" - I die. Good description
Waiting for this vid 😁 is it safe to say that they are now more of a max cushion shoe?
Yeah definitely max cushion now - not as soft as max cushion shoes like the nimbus and 1080 but very comfortable and protective
Matt from DOR said that a lot of shoes intended to be faster have that disconnected heel and forefoot. The Endorphin Speed seems to have it, too. I pulled out my Novablast 3 for a couple of runs and they felt more protective than the Deviate Nitro 2 and no slappiness as a midfoot striker; too bad I bought them 1/2 size too small.
They do have a Novablast 4 TR for those who need extra grip.
I'm trying to increase my mileage (a little) and I agree with you in feeling like I need a little extra protection. Enjoy your vacation.
Excellent review.
Im getting NB 4 for jogging sessions and all day wear (10 hours shift).
What do you think?
Thank you.
"The rubber is terrible, but it will be terrible forever" :D Yeah, i think they went for durability above everything else. Mach 5 without a proper outsole was much better on wet and i think the durability was ok. On most shoes the midsole dies 1st anyway.
Nova 4 is generally a good workhorse shoe for everyday runs. Not exciting, not energetic but comfy and durable. And it definitely needs some time to break in.
Greet from Indonesia, thanks for great review.
Right now I Had Saucony triumph 21 (for recovery and very easy run), boston 12 (for daily trainer and tempo session), and superblast (for long run and race day).
are you recommend novablast 4 for replacing my boston 12 (already reach 600 miles/820km)? I prefer more firmer shoes than soft and bouncy shoes.
Hope your channel growing fast, your analysis is very deep and very helpful
Novablast 4 tr is out now. I am ordering a pair. I do really easy trails and road running, but I live in Trondheim in Norway and it rains quite alot. Heard the Tr of the 3 was good for wet conditions on roads, so hopefully it will be a good road to trail shoe.
What’s weird is that you can’t find any reviews on the trail versions. I’m not sure if it’s because it’s exactly the same or just no one is interested. The tread is different. Seems like the “lugs” are a little deeper.
Excellent informative review.
Nice review man! Would consider to try these one day. They look nice and comfortable for slow recover runs. Not sure if you mentioned it, but how would you say the Saucony Speed 4 shoe compares to these NB4’s?
Man, I go back through your past videos and I appreciate the work you do.. I’m preparing to start my first marathon training , and I’m looking to build my stack ..
I have the Triumph 21 and Tempus at about 200 miles , Speed 3 at 150, Rebel V4 at 125, and my race day is the Pro 3 at about 110, which still feels awesome as I raced in a Half last weekend.
Long story short , I am looking for my Saturday long run shoe. I’ve been eyeing the Novablast 4 and the NB SC Trainer V3.
I tested the SCv3 and it felt firm, but I hear it softens up .
I am leaning towards to the Novablast 4 with the value and what it does.. May I have your thoughts sir ?
Thanks for the kind words! Novablast 4 is my favorite non plated long run shoe - its stable and comfortable without being too heavy. It's not the bounciest but it's great for protection and time on feet. Perfect for what you need since you already have so many bouncy shoes like the Tempus, triumph, speed 3
@@supwell thank you so much.. Again. I appreciate you and I know us “Hobby Joggers” do too!!
I vote triumph 20/21 for the most basic but effective. Brooks ghost and a 12mm drop, would be good for my Achilles tendinitis. But I need to sleep on the brooks as I have way to many shoes. 😂
I have on and off Achilles tendinitis, you mentioned brooks ghost are good for that?
@@torifogg7736 nothing is good per say but higher drop shoes will take some pressure off the Achilles. If I walk around on tip toes my Achilles feels great but when I run it hurts so I have been going for higher drop shoes and even adding heal cups to some of them.
I wear my all white novablast around town and it looks good.
Speed 4 has that curve on one side only on the midsole too. I felt a disconnect too. The 4s have gone back.
You mentioned these are a size 10.5 for you- what size do you wear in Vaporfly 3? Thanks!
Hi bro. Can you point me to the 100 mile vid for your adizero sl? Thanks. ☺️
Also, have you done a review for the propel v4?
hey man, i would really appreciate your suggestion on the sizing for Novablast 4. because i think theyre using different sizing in CM compare to the sizing used in other brands like new balance.
because here in indonesia for the bigger size, Novablast are only available for US11 (28.5CM) and US12 (29.5CM). and i most comfortable with a 29CM (which is US11 for my new balance 1080)
i consider myself as a bigger runner with 6'1 ft and 210 lbs, and try to condition myself to be back in shape by using max cushioned shoes in the past 4 months for my daily slow runs.
now im exploring other shoes options for my daily runs but still able to absorb those impacts and protect my knees & legs from the heel striking/landing.
oh by the way, i recently saw your channel and already watched 15 videos in last saturday alone haha. really love it. very objective, with awesome detail, and a proper video duration in a very entertaining way. gain 1 subscriber from indonesia ✌😁❤
Thanks for the kind words! I'm glad you found the channel 🙌🏽 I would go for the same size you have in the 1080. It fits true to size but if you have to choose between a bigger and smaller I'd go bigger
Would like to see comparison video vs Puma Magnify Nitro 2.
Not sure why but after putting some miles in my nb4, my knees hurt. I want to like these shoes because they’re really comfortable on my feet
did you change your training in the process as well and increase your workload too quickly by either doing more time/effort than normal?
@@ryanmiskin8925 no I kept everything basically the same just slightly slower pace. I now have around 200 miles in them now and I have to say they are one of my favorite shoes. My knees stopped hurting after 40ish miles. I’m guessing they needed some breaking in?
Would i make sense to get these if i allready own 1080 V13(And LOVE Them)??
Im a slow runner trying to increase milage and speed..
If you want another protective shoe to rotate with the 1080 then it would make sense - but they are best for the same types of runs. 1080 is a lot softer than the Novablast but I like them both for those relaxed everyday miles. If you want something firmer to pair with the 1080 then it would be a good choice
Do you think stack heights will get much higher than the current level for the mainstream of the market? I've heard some industry watchers say the next big trend will be toward cutting mass, and in conjunction with continuing advances in foam engineering, will feed a downward trend in stack heights.
Yeah I agree the next frontier for speed/race shoes is weight. For training shoes it's definitely bounce and comfort, so the stack heights will keep going up. In my experience, 47mm to 50mm seems to be the point where it no longer feels like running in a regular shoe anymore and starts to feel really unnatural. Also you have to make foams pretty firm or add a stiffening agent like a plate once you get to 50mm. So with the current technology I don't see running shoes going much past 50mm without the ride experience feeling super weird
The 3 was a bit more "fun". The 4 is just so smooth. Im not excited about it ever, but im at 75 miles and it just works. Good shoe.
Novablast 5 should be terrific. New foam. FF blast Max. Coming soon to a running store near you.
You sayin Japan doesn't rain is not true because Japan has the rainy season and generally rainy and humid country. Anyways it says they use AHAR outsole. So guess that keeps the price low but not so good traction in wet conditions. Maybe the trampoline inspired outsole design with AHAR is not good. I do hear other reviewers say NB4 can be slippery so agree to get something else when it's wet.
With all due respect I gotta disagree with Yowana about the NB4's suitability as a lifestyle shoe.
I'm on a max heart rate restriction because of a cardiological issue. So I walk a lot, typically over 5 miles per day, some carefully controlled (zone 1/2) jogging mixed in.
A lot of my walking is accomplished by taking walks during the day at the office. So most of my running shoes are also walking shoes. I have NB4s, SL2s, Cliftons, Hurricane 24s, and Cloud 5s in my 'walk/jog' rotation, and I find the NB4s to be excellent in this capacity, as comfortable as any of them except the Hurricanes.
And I think they look cool! (I have the black/blue/neon yellow colorway.)
De gustibus non est disputandam, I guess lol
Try the trubaco max 2? Wondering the ride comparison between the 2?
HI WHAT do you tkink of a rotation with cloud eclipse and nova blast 4? I don't like the nimbus
"The rubber is terrible but it'll be terrible forever" 🤣🤣
What would be your recommendation for a first shoe for somebody getting serious, $160 US dollar budget. I want to get into doing 10k/half marathons. I do 5k's daily now and want to improve dinstance. I have a awful APL shoe right now that's flat, no give and awful.
this one or hoka mach 6 - both are $140. get the mach 6 if you want something light, bouncy and fun. it's a great shoe for up to 90 minutes and will have a lot more pop than what you're running in now. the novablast 4 is a good choice if you want a little more support - it's a great shoe for bigger runners and long runs an hour+ but can be on the firm side and feel like too much cushion for shorter runs. i'd go with the mach 6 and then if you feel like you're maxing out its capabilities doing a lot of longer runs, add a second shoe with more cushion like the novablast or a plated shoe. but for now mach 6 will be a nice upgrade
compare that to the Novablast 3?
I disliked the nova 3 but love the 4. Strange I know !
good to know. thanks! give me them 3s ill use it for training. =)@@FatUglySadMan
The Novablast 4 are they true to size and are they on the narrow side ?
yes true to size. and toebox is a bit on the narrow side but most people should be okay. they do also have a wide width version of this
Anyway we can get a trail version vs the regular version for the Novablast 4 please?
I'm not planning on doing the TR version since the only change is the outsole. I've heard it's a good upgrade if you need some more grip
Hey, please advise on the size. In all the running shoes I order, I take US size 12, which means an insole length of 30 cm. I then have sufficient toe room for long distances. Asics, on the other hand, states that size US 12 has an insole length of 29.5 cm. Only size US 12.5 is a 30 cm insole. Can anyone relate this to their size in the Novablast 4 - is it better to look at the US size or the insole length?
I used my normal US size 10.5 M and they fit perfectly
@@supwell Thanks for quick response. Problem solved - I ordered Mach 5 for $95. It seems to be a good price for a similar shoe :)
Novablast 4 vs triumph 21
There is a TR option for light trails (and rain / a bit of snow) available. The shoe is 20-30g havier but fixes the extremly bad outsole at least. I really dont understand how so much effort can go into a shoe while totally ignoring the outsole in the process. Give it at least a good pattern and not this cool looking but useless thing...
Is the Novablast 4 more stable than the Mach 6?
Yes definitely - much wider base on the novablast 4 and less squishy foam
Are there any differences between the men and womens version? Men sizes all sold out but I can buy a size 10 womens?
Typically women's are narrower - running warehouse has a ton of availability in this colorway and a bunch of different men's colorways though. And bonus you can support the channel if you use my link 😉 www.runningwarehouse.com/ASICS_Novablast_4/descpage-AM4NB05.html?from=supwell
@@supwell thanks for the response mate, i'm specifically looking for the white colourway model, do you know where i can pick one up?
ahh, i just checked, they don't ship to Australia where i'm based
@8:10 like a Xanax for your foot 🤣😂
Is it true to size? Nimbus 26 is half size up
I went true to size and it fits well!
What’s your weight?
I'm 6 foot 2 and 160 lbs
@@supwell I’m fat lol 6”2 225 I was 250 i was just curious I’m going to compress it different than you is the only reason I ask thanks for the content.
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12 mm drop in brooks…. Did I hear that right
Yeah a lot of the brooks line has the 12mm drop
Mach 6 feels lively, but it is ridiculously narrow.
The shaky camera concept is making me nauseous
0:35 Jesus, how old are you bro? And are your knees still holding up well?
God I hate how you run