GENEFATHER FABIUS BILE V BELISARIUS CAWL HYPE AND CHAT
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2023
- Talking about the upcoming novel Genefather by Guy Haley which sees Fabius Bile and Belisarius Cawl go at it.
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While I'm absolutely thrilled, we're finally getting Cawl vs. Bile, I also feel like this us step one to the Emperors Children refresh they've been hinting at since 8th edition.
Bile and Cawl are both major characters who are open to innovation. I can imagine them sort of collaborating and competing simultaneously. Or at least trying to steal knowledge from each other while trying to kill each other.
I bet Cawl can be remarkably persuasive getting Bile to come off his secrets. Nothing like a warp stone tipped mecadendrite drill to get to the bottom of things.
Both must surely be aware of Vashtor. And Vashtor isn't necessarily the patron of mechanical ingenuity alone, in the same sense as the mechanicus holds geneticists and biologists under it's oversight, however reluctantly. Cawl is obliged to enhance and engineer within the implicit guidelines required by an imperium that insists on proximity to terran-standard biological stock. Even the beastmen that occupy one of the lowest possible rungs in imperial society benefit from their recognition that their mutations have come about at least in part by the reemergence or engineered expression of bovine and ungulate traits. No one is thinking the wolves of Fenris are *aliens* because of their canid traits (til they get out of hand). In this context, Cawl has a few ready pathways to increased practical knowledge in general. Deep and critical study of preexisting technology with an eye to innovation, the understanding and repurposing of alien technologies once the mechanism at play is able to be expressed in the frameworks of the mechanicus, and archeotech. All of which was already going on clandestinely or otherwise within the mechanicus before he became archmagos dominus. Though, by virtue of his current title in m42 he will also be able to pursue 10,000+ years of thwarted theories and experiments abandoned in the face of previous hostile tech development orthodoxy, many of which must have been documented and destroyed or warehoused by his predecessors. That's quite a lot of avenues to head down. My point is, he's not lacking for paths of research but two serious delimiters on his aspirations are: guilliman being someone who is as old as he, who knows full well the risks from their much clearer understanding of the ravages the dark age of tech worked on humanity, and is eminently suspicious of heresy. Both Guilliman and Cawl were engaged the great crusades great technological gold rush and were both well aware of all the ways humanity had "perverted" and enslaved itself to exotic technology in an effort fit a hostile galaxy. He's got eyes on him. The second delimiting factor is a staunchly conservative mechanicus that, unlike the more honest imperial agents in their understanding of that imperium, believes itself a unified whole of cultural hegemony that *cannot* change, only reproduce prior forms - while in actual fact being a highly fractious political entity that regularly goes against its own interests and the interests of humanity as a whole. Now Fabius Bile by contrast is radically more free to pursue his own ends the longer he lives. And the more bile pulls on the thread of knowledge, while yes it's a monkeys paw situation and his reach always endangers his own welfare, wonders are produced. Not one but two viable clones of an uncorrupted primarch. An entire subspecies of astartes hunting abhumans. The preservation of his own life for 10 millenia without falling to daemon craft or defaulting to preexisting technology he himself could not direct personally. The breeding of servile and sentient wraithbone melding with and subsuming a drukhari's mind is another. The man is a genius , as evil as he may be. Cawl is brilliant, but has the advantage of unlimited resources and thousands of years of material, and the disadvantage of a shitty company to run full of people gunning for his job and a refusal to listen to new ideas. The frontier scientist Bile is the artisan to Cawl's weapons factory design department.
the amount of abandoned storylines inside the Fabius Bile storyline is beyond a crime. there were some amazing ideas in that book series
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I think Anthony Hopkins would be great to portray Fabius Bile 😊
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fuck yeah please god keep him alive and well for dis
Hear me out.... Daniel day-Lewis to play Fab Bile
@fruno.1388 he could, he's a great actor, but Anthony Hopkins is Hannibal lecture
Mads Mikkelson as 30k/Great Crusade/Heresy Fabius Bile. Then in 40k his degenerate Gene-seed and Warp exposure turns him into Anthony Hopkins.
Fabius Bile and The Emperor of Mankind are the greatest lovers of humanity. Prove me wrong.
I am tremendously anxious about anyone other than Josh Reynolds writing for our beloved Chief Apothecary, but you've gone a long way toward putting my mind at rest :)
uhh yea i cant wait for that .. this should be interesting .. not another generic space marine book thankfully ..
i would love to see whats goin on with the necron and S. king..
i also would want a Dark eldar or Eldar story
Hello Sir, hope you, the Lady and little one are doing well. Looking forward to this, hope it's a trilogy
A bit of a long shot, but I had a fan theory where cawl in his process of creating primaris came across Arik Taranis. Taranis trying to extend his life, would exchange his knowledge of ancient genetics and science he learned from the emperor himself. If cawl combined the knowledge of creating the physically larger thunder warriors with the stable Space Marines, the result could be primaris. If we saw Tanaris again in the 41st millennia, he would be someone I'd love to see meet cawl or fabius bile
Why would Arik know any of that, he was only taught limited knowledge, he couldn't fix anything nevermind making a new space marine, why would cawl be able to do what he needed to make primaris from that? Again primaris make no sense how ever far you go to splice the geneseed. Both only had limited knowledge, again this is in the span of about 3k years, that all this happens and agian, how the heck does no one else know about this?
Not to mention how this fan theory is basically, could've happened, ANYTHING could've happened, that's why it's gar...bage writing.
i really hope this becomes another fabius book. he is such an interesting character
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I already miss up cawl and bile in my head so when you switched names i had to stop and check some wikis
There no way Trazyn does not show up.
Bile & Cawl going at it?
This should be fun.
Mad Dok Grotsnik, Urien Rakarth, Illuminor Szeras: *exchange looks while the human 'doctors' are bitchslapping each other*
Grotsnik: 'Iz gotz ten teef on da cogboy winnin'.'
Rakarth: 'I'll take that bet.'
Szeras: '...Cawl could've just asked one of my colleagues to explain it to him.'
Rakarth: 'And your lot would've told him AFTER they'd turned him into a pile of ash/disintegrated molecules/flayed sculpture or imprisoned him in a tesseract vault.'
Szeras: 'Hey hey hey! I do not use tesseract vaults! I am not that thieving wretch of a snake-spawn Trazyn!'
Welcome back Prince. More of this type of video please.
They should have never let Josh Reynolds go from the Bile novels
I really enjoyed the three Fabius bile books, enough to have the desire to paint the consortium but not the money or talent
Very excited to see if anything comes of Bile's experiments on the Primaris geneseed he got ahold of!
I'm looking forward to this novel
Plot twist: it’s actually a buddy comedy
Mic sounds great! Also, I love these rants!
SO GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU ! WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN ? LOST IN THE WARP ?
Dude, your intro has to be one of the best iv heard.
I'd love to see the New Men as a unit in the new Emperor's Children codex as a Scouts / infiltrators unit. Then when they get used on the table they'll get nicknamed the Gary's (very British joke 😉)
With the advent of this heat dome it undermines my belief that the south/southwest needs more mechanization of the agriculture in order to provide more climate controlled work places and few necessary field hands in this outrageous heat. Southern NM is over 105 most days of the week now.
Time to paint my Hormagaunts to this
The last Bequin novel wouldn't get you excited about 40k?
Oh! Up on the volume by 10% or maybe even 15%. Didn't catch any popping or such. Just a tad low on the volume.
So much sexual tension in the air……
Hell yeah Dave the Diver sounds great!!
So, what's the verdict on your new mic, ABP? I use a blue yeti, what kinda mic do you have now?
The mic quality is great, and no worries on the mixups, as a dad sometimes it gets crossed up when you're also hearing the baby fussing ❤
Im reading this and am halfway through. Thanks lol
Bellasarius Cawl should be portrayed by Freddy Prince Junior
after the titanicus video imo the volume is too low, earbuds at full blast if it matters
Yep. Just a wee bit too low. Needs to go up about 15% louder. 10% minimum.
@@sadwingsraging3044 absolutely agree
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BP, you ever consider doing an audio reading of "the devastation of Baal"? Maybe you did it in ancient times but i cant find it. And its Guy Haley so you know its a banger.
He won't do audio books for stories with official readings.
Thats begging for GW to take down the channel for copyright.
@@LethargicGM ohhhhh, that totally makes sense actually. Thanks for the reply!
I really enjoyed Guy Haley's last Cawl book. Really looking forward to this interaction. Will Vashtorr be discussed? And will this be released around the time of the Ad Mech 10th ed. codex release? New models for the Adeptus Mechanicus?
I want to hear who makesa better flesh garden, clan tzimisce, black spiral dancers in malfease, bile, cawl, of the cinobites?
Welp. Better fire that aid quite fast there Justice Thomas
in one of you're video you talk about how the Emperor of mankind was inspired by budha or something like that
i don't remember well
will you one day develop that idea ?
Inquisitor A B Prince told me all I need to know about Cawl.🤨 Squirrely character indeed.
The volume is mixed too low.
Can you do a summary of the 10th lore
Y'all think 10 th edition is good
@@jarrodreaves243 no strong opinion. Game? sucks they removed alot of customization and flavor from many factions. And the balancing has been all over the place giving the impression of inadequate testing. But I do like that they added USR's back and simplified some interactions.
Lore? Idk it seems to be just more primarchs returning. Sentient Xenos factions are relegated more and more like furniture pieces to the setting rather than serious moving forces.
What's your opinoin
@@TheNarwhal85 umm more of a lore type person fr but I like the p the primarks returning
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🥰 Strong lungs on the wee lad but with the genetics of Inquisitor A B Prince that was a given.😁👍🏻
So was there any admech POVs in this book besides cawl? Or was it just more primaris pewpew snoozefest?
Can we get a reading of a trazyn the infinite
Cawl, Fabius and Trazyn playing a game of 3 player 45th dimensional regicide
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It's pronounced "Troll-zyn" the infinite
mic is low volume
No chat?
Don't think this is live or a premiere. I thought it was going to be a premiere.
@@wellhungindung AHH makes sense 😢
Do you read your baby 40k yet?
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Don’t give that scammer credit, Valrak’s head Is too big already
Hopefully it will be better than thier usual drivel. Getting real sick of magic bringing bringing “heroes” back to life, conquering armies etc etc, call me old fashioned but I prefer my books with Bolter, blade and a decent story line, sadly lacking in most modern warhammer novels
I think the Cawl AI will 100% revolt. It already demands to be the Fabricator General and idiot Guilliman is too busy pondering if his dad is a God and if he should worship 🛐 🙏 him.
Calling it now, GW wants to get rid of the Prince of Pleasure. They're setting the ground work for it here. They already nulled it out of AOS. I'm concerned they're trying to make the setting more "palatable", and I guess having trans sex demons doesn't really contribute to that.
Only the brainiest?
I love Fabius, but - HATE - Cawl.
I generally dont enjoy Guy Haley. His stories are so scatter shot of characters that go no where for so long. Dark Imperium was such a slog with some bright spots. Avenging son is the same. His name is whats holding me back from reading Cawl. Should I give great work a chance?
Honestly after reading the book i feel disapointed, i think this is jet again grim dumbnes, there are a overpowered and underpowered characters, porter(so over the top(strength) that its just dumb) is one of the worst writen character for the above mentioned reason, primus was the opposite and thats just wrong, and the ending was terrible why always lose thats becoming boring now: i write this way because i dont want to spoiler anything