Elon Musk HUMILIATES Himself | The Kyle Kulinski Show
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"The first time I ever really listened to Kyle Kulinski’s show was in the back of a cab last summer. The driver had his phone hooked up through the stereo and was pumping out an episode through the car speakers - loudly, as if looking to convert a captive audience.
“Do you like Kyle Kulinski?”
The driver, Ahmed, was a recent immigrant and apparently a die-hard fan of Secular Talk, the political talk show that Kulinski broadcasts on RUclips. I told him, yes, in fact. I do like Kulinski, had come across his show several years ago, and, all things considered, he seemed pretty good.
“He understands what we’re up against,” Ahmed said. “Like Bernie.”
But I was surprised to hear Kulinski’s name mentioned in the same breath as Bernie Sanders, particularly with such adoration. Because what I did remember about Kulinski’s show struck me as mostly capital-P “progressive” takes on the news - the left wing of the Netroots crowd more than the democratic socialism Sanders has popularized.
It’s an impression that wasn’t entirely incorrect.
“I have no time for philosophical, airy bullshit,” Kulinski tells me from his home in Westchester, New York. “I don’t want to hear about Lenin. I don’t want to hear about Marx. I just want a super plainspoken, straightforward agenda with a straightforward way of selling it.”
With over 800,000 subscribers and nearly 670 million total views on RUclips, selling a progressive agenda is clearly something Kulinski knows how to do - even Democracy Now, the long-standing flagship of progressive media, cannot match his reach on the platform. Chapo Trap House can certainly boast a wildly devoted fan base (and a not insignificant degree of media influence), but their audience is roughly half the size of Kulinski’s.
While Secular Talk might be more likely to be looped in with the progressive networks around Air America and Pacifica alums like Sam Seder than the more resolutely socialist world, Kulinski’s fiery rhetoric, razor-sharp class instincts, and knack for withering takedowns sets him apart from his peers. Judging by his rhetoric alone, he’s closer to a Eugene Debs than a Chris Hayes.
But unlike Hayes, Amy Goodman, or his friend Cenk Uygur of The Young Turks - who began airing Secular Talk on his web network seven years ago - the thirty-two-year-old Kulinski is virtually invisible in the mainstream media. Despite his enormous fan base, his show has never once been mentioned in the obligatory trend pieces on “the Millennial Left” pumped out by the prestige media. Nor has Kulinski’s name ever popped up at all in the New York Times, Vox, the New Yorker, New York Magazine, or the Washington Post, despite his leading role in cofounding Justice Democrats, the organization widely credited with sweeping Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the rest of “the Squad” to power.
Just last week, his Wikipedia page was deleted. The reason? “There is very simply no [reliable source] coverage of this person,” according to one moderator. In new media, he’s king - the Sean Hannity of the Berniecrat left. In old media, he’s nobody.
I suspect there are a few reasons for that. There is nothing “cool” about Kulinski’s show. (As a friend put it, “‘Welcome to Secular Talk’ sounds like something you’d hear on Egyptian radio.”) His no-nonsense social-democratic politics won’t get him much cred with the Full Communism crowd. He records his show not in Brooklyn or Los Angeles, but in a studio he built himself in his modest Westchester home. His hair is too groomed and his taste in clothes too preppy to qualify as “Dirtbag Left.” Nor has he ever attended an n+1 release party. “Not only have I not attended one,” he says, “I have no idea what that means.”
And yet he’s astonishingly plugged-in for a young man in the suburbs. Wondering how Sanders ended up on the Joe Rogan Experience? Kulinski, a frequent guest on Rogan’s wildly popular show, introduced them. “You make the most sense to me,” Rogan told Kulinski on a recent episode. “You’re a normal person.”
Much like Sanders himself, Kulinski’s show has a massive audience that just doesn’t compute with our media’s understanding of “what the kids want” or even “what the left-wing kids want.”
It’s probably for the best - the very woke and very WASP-ish decorum haunting much of the media world is nowhere to be found in Secular Talk. “Corporate Democrats over-focus on identity as a trick to divert you from the issues that unite us all - class issues,” he said on a recent episode.
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I love this. It's like daily proof that meritocracy doesn't exist for the world.
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Yepp look at youtube poltics
It would work if anyone were actually interested in trying it. Problem is, people with power really dislike having that power threatened. Meritocracy would by definition challenge power, in general. That's why a janitor who works 60hrs a week makes dramatically less than a CEO who drools into a bucket and stares at a wall for 8hrs a day.
Where was this mouthy kyle when he talked to pbd.....that pyramid salesman would defend elon
At first I read that "mediocrity doesn't exist"
At least Musk was able to pocket an entire
*checks notes
224$ dollars over this lmfao
😂
Hey that's per month lol.
The amount of money he had to have spent on desperately buying celebrities blue checkmarks likely took that number far into the negative. Such a genius businessman
*B I Z N I S S*
@@thehumanity0 I guarantee he’s not paying twitter money to hand out those checks.
To be fair, Kyle, spitting in people's eyes and telling them it's raining is Elno's entire MO.
Tickle me Elno
Who is Elno? Is it Elmo's evil twin brother?
@@dustinsindledecker154 It's the possessed version of Elmo which just throws out racial slurs & sexual advances every time you tickle it
God damn you, Elno!!!
I always heard that as "don't piss on me and tell me it's raining" but I was raised by a conservative asshole in a more vulgar time when Fred Sanford used to regularly drop the N-word on television.
A big draw of Twitter is knowing the person/organization tweeting is actually who they claim to be. That’s gone now. Way to go, Elmo.
Celebrity worship won't end. If you were relying on a blue check mark to take someone seriously you were already misled. Credibility on twitter? That never existed anyway. If you knew how mind control nanotech works you wouldn't think any celebrity is more than a ghostwriter being manipulated.
Yes, not knowing whether or not the person/entity is the actual one tweeting is a massive blow to the service. Now, if you want to make sure you are getting the information you want takes a lot of time. Twitter is done.
All legacy checkmarks have returned right now but are labeled blue users. If they don't fix that soon he will lose a massive false advertising lawsuit. I think he once again walk it back because he realized he fucked up.
Elon's new book: How to turn $44 billion into $4.4 million in 4 easy steps.
Identity verification will be more effective than any other moderation update Twitter has made.
The blue check was an arbitrarily earned status symbol that needed an overhaul. Good for Elon for recognizing it and changing it.
This is not a loss for Elon at all lol...
Musk: blue check marks for millionaire celebrities is an unfair status advantage.
Also Musk: I'll personally pay for millionaire celebrities I like.
Dude seriously acting like he democratized Twitter when the company went from being run by a large board of directors making decisions solely based on business finances & basic PR to unilateral decisions by a thin skinned billionaire who scours the platform all day to punish his critics.
@@thehumanity0 Musk is such a total frail loser, it's actually a fascinating case study.
Not even celebrities he likes. Guys like Stephen king openly mock Musk and he still gave them the check mark
He's trying to buy their support and continue to prove that the feature is useful for identification purposes. The major issue is...
They won't be bought and the don't want it for free because they feel like it damages their credibility as being on the consumer's side.
Also Musk: I'll personally pay for millionaire celebrities I wished liked me.
it's really bizarre to see elon stans simultaneously call the people who've had checkmarks forced on them "ungrateful" whilst bemoaning why anyone would care about their online status
Elon Musk is a genius - if his ultimate goal is to destroy Twitter as thoroughly and as swiftly as possible.
Well he did prove that twitter could be hugely profitable…
For the people that he bought it from
@@trappedinamerica7740 BOOOOOOOMMM
dude spent double the worth of the site. what a way to waste money
Or, how to turn $44 billion into $4 million in few easy steps.
This is legit an actual theory that Elon stans have latched onto to continue arguing why Elon is a genius. It's like the last possible way to defend him nowadays
This is hilarious for a normie like me who never had a Twitter account.
I was banned on 3 different accounts and I dont miss it.
@Dustin Sindledecker oh wow. I hope to be as cool as you when I grow up
@@Ted_Sheckler It's not really hard to do.
I got banned for saying Musk's head looks like a used Q-tip.
It's kind of That Easy to get banned at this point.
Having twitter is the normies thing to do.
I had one back in my college days 10* years ago but I think I only posted on it like 10 times maybe less. I just stoped using it. Having a FB, IG, SC , Twitter and Reddit etc was and still is so damn overwhelming. I had to stop using them. Especially with all the political/social chaos that folks would post non stop. It was depressing. That includes RUclips unfortunately.
I now have to limit what videos I watch, click, comment on to avoid the algorithm posting depressing chaotic shit. I mostly stick to educational videos or videos around my hobbies and maybe a few channels based off politics and social news but again limited
Elon Musk: "You made me so mad that I'm giving you $96/year in perpetuity."
LOL! Whats the present value? 🤣
So the beef eater is really vegan...so confused. Does musk have legal counsel??? Or social language interpreters?
Kyle: "Elon Musk humiliated himself."
Me: "oh, so it's been another week?"
Elon a white cenk
Right. This is not about treating everyone equally. It's about giving perks, again, to the people with the money.
Also, public figures and companies SHOULD ALWAYS be verified, as being themselves. Otherwise, you have fake people taking over your name, and no ones knows which one is legit.
I'm old enough to remember assuming that nobody is who they claim to be on the internet.
Or check the user name
Tell me you didn't listen to a thing Kyle said without telling me you didn't listen to a thing Kyle said.
It's gonna get to the point where celebrities have to use their verified Instagram or TikTok accounts to tell their fans which Twitter account is actually theirs. What a dumpster fire
A blue checkmark isn't verification. You don't need to give your identity to get one, so there's no reason to get Twitter Blue.
The only way to be verified now is to use an external public site which links to your Twitter account.
Saying tons of celebrities are paying for Blue when they’re not is a great way to get both cease and desist letters and lawsuits from states for false advertising. If he thinks compliance is a waste of money, wait til the lawsuits catch up with all his businesses.
“I will punish these people making fun of me by giving them for free the thing I am desperately trying to get everyone else to pay for”
-Elon Musk, I can only assume
Elon should give a master class in self-humiliation. He might make some of his money back.
That shit would definitely sell big on pornhub. Might be his first money-making scheme that actually works.
He has to have a live-in dominatrix with this kind of love of humiliation lol🤣
Elon will always be rich......
@@6thface ...and he will never be happy.
I swear this site printed money and all he had to do was leave it as is after purchase...
How hard is it to not go out of your way to hurt your product?
Who else wants to pay $8 to ask Elon about his relationship with Epstein and call him pedo
Not me, he's BAD... EVIL MIND...
i like how this era of twitter is just muskrat showing his incompetence and failing or coming to the exact same conclusion as the previous twitter administration
This dude has acquired the most self-inflicted Ls I've ever seen.
When you're born rich it's almost impossible to fail in life short of running into the streets naked and lobbing explosives at random civilians. Contraversely when you're born poor, achieving social mobility is like winning the lottery.
How much was his family worth when he started his first company?
@@rlh12345 Enough to own an emerald mine.
kyle is the dude failing again here, as usual he has 0 clue and is completely wrong about everything, the opposite is true. god is this awful
@@rlh12345 Considering Elon's fortune is born from Daddy's African Slave Mines, I'd imagine he was fucking loaded.
Poor people don't have slave labor.
The amount he's lost by being so unstable to advertisers, was never going to be made up by doing this stunt.
If dude really wanted twitter verification to be equal, it would be tied to a State issued ID or Drivers license number, not some esoteric popularity contest or pay to win system.
The thing is tho, elon isn’t /paying/ for anyone’s checkmark. He’s just pressing a button.
If he was operating honesty, he’d be putting the money in the till to go to Twitter’s revenue and preserve the program. Or create a budget and team for promotions that does this (and buys endorsements from the celebs).
But instead he’s created a bubble that says “Stephen King is paying for blue” and “This guy is paying for blue,” when they’re not, which… is now a legal liability. And no way is he actually paying the $8 into Twitter’s revenue
@@johnmickey5017 it's not a legal liability
He’s intentionally losing revenue which he claims to care about just so he can be a troll.
@@TheRatsintheWalls gifting a service is not claiming endorsement
@@TheRatsintheWalls not how it works
I see that Melon has definitely abided by that poll about whether he should step down as twitter CEO.
It's actually a little disappointing that Elon's personality ruined a social media subscription plan. I try to pay for subscriptions because, in theory, if enough people did this then the platform, content creator, or whatever isn't going to be beholden to advertisers. Pretty much every awful rule change RUclips does, whether it is demonetizing certain news stories or demonetizing small swear words at the beginning of videos, it is because of advertisers. Subscriptions are the way to fix that.
Subscriptions require commitment to the company being subscribed to. It gives them too much power, and over time the company will suck additional profit at the cost of the consumer. The answer is windfall profit taxes, public ownership, and transparency. Anything else is just another grift.
Not under Capitalism.
@@AbyssalMelody Advertisers can influence thousands of corporations because of the ad model. A subscription model is beholden to the subscribers. This isn't like Ring Doorbell where they lock you out of your property's features when you don't subscribe. You can cut off a social media's subscription at any time. Different tax structures and more transparency would do absolutely nothing to address what I'm talking about. And as far as public ownership goes... if public as in the government do you really want them to have the data and to be able to manipulate the algorithms how they want? If it is public like a co-op then you're going to have mob rule over what gets censored which isn't good either.
That seems like a pretty flawed way to look at it no offense. In reality, these corporations will choose to profit off of advertisers whether people pay for subscriptions or not. They're addicted to money and are always going to maximize profits no matter what
@@thehumanity0 do you really think that advertisers have any significant sway over something like Netflix?
He’s proving a public square can’t be controlled by a single person. Hopefully Twitter goes under and a platform built on NOSTR gets popular.
My favorite saying. Don’t pee on me and tell me it’s clean water.
If your famous enough Elon will pay for your twitter blue. That's the real blue check one paid by Elon
Turns out people would rather pay for a cup of coffee than for his mistakes 😂
Ooo, are we getting close to the wedding?? The dark hair is back!
All they needed to do to fix the original verification process was to allow anyone to be verified if they provide ID to prove their real. They should have focused monetization somewhere else.
This is basically the only rational take I'm seeing in this comment section. Kyle is arguing that their utility has been for ID verification and Elon ruined that because people don't "want" them now, but they're now more accessible to everybody that wants to actually verify their identity.
But, considering it takes development and moderation to verify identities, it might just be a way of funding that initiative. ID verification has absolutely been the biggest issue for Twitter, and people like Kyle are just sour they lost their status symbol.
@@stephenr85 the checkmark doesn't mean shit under Elon's Twitter other than a proof of purchase. It has nothing to do with verifying your identity anymore, people were making troll accounts of big companies the minute this new system went live.
@@Rusty_Spy to make a purchase you have to identify yourself more than anything other than an actual KYC. This isn't that simple of a thing to solve, but troll accounts are nothing new. Bot accounts are much more insidious to the overall system and algorithms. And the point that ID verification is paramount and the check marks were merely a status symbol still stands.
Elon genuinely seems to have thought "the blue checkmark" was way more coveted than it actually was. This is why if you are a celeb, you should never listen to your reply guys for business advice.
Every day I watch as it sinks further and further into the red, and I'm enjoying every second of it.
*Munching on popcorn*
Just noticed Kyle's hair's back to normal. Must've been training to go Super Saiyan 2 and finally went back to base form.
It’s for his wedding. He plans to dye it again after.
@@sadepennbrook gotcha. Just having some fun. Positvity's kind of in short supply in the current political climate, ya know?
Twitter has always been trash, the old tenants just hate their new landlord.
LOVE the sound quality - no blast happening
Nice analogy to finish on.
It's older news but it checks out.
Remember how conservatives used to make fun of pink-haired woke protesters who demanded to take everything down because it's "not fair"; and the conservatives were like "these systems exist for good reasons"? Well, Elon is literally that pink-haired woke teenager now.
How did they not know this would happen?
It's not just super famous people that Elon is giving a blue check to without them laying for it. Theres a number of pro athletes in Europe that have said they didn't pay for it and have it.
Thanks!
Good reporting.
What will replace it. Is it Substack?
Elon is gonna force Kyle to take the check mark
There's no way this will get misinterpreted
Why wouldn't Twitter automatically have verification for the accounts they allow on their platform. It should be illegal to pose as someone else or an organization but at least the company that provides the platform should be verifying their customers.
Arguably it’s easier to pay $8/month than get the amount of followers or public credibility required to get verified in the old system
It's almost like a paid troll tanked a relatively free discourse app. Whether it's Russian bots or flesh and blood billionaire man-childs, trolling is trolling kids. RIP, again, Twitter, I never knew ya but I feel bad for those that did
Russian bots? Are you so deranged that you still believe in Russiagate? My refrigerator went on the blink...must be the Russians; my dog has a stomach ache...must be the Russians; weather is going to be bad tomorrow...must be the Russians. Go watch some more Rachel Maddow.
Not so slim shady Kyle. Damn, end of an era.
How’s that cyber truck coming?? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This same situation is literally happening AGAIN. A wrestler named Alexa Bliss has an imposter scamming people on Twitter since this blue check thing
I liked it because people were creating parody accounts (some were hilarious) but the blue check marks helped you find the person you were really looking for
Kyle getting "walk-in tub" ads. You go girl!
Oh, who could see this coming 😂😂
Was the old legacy verification free? How did you get it? I never use Twitter.
James Woods is the celebrity who sued Twitter.
Musk: "Should I step down as head of Twitter? I'll abide by the results of this poll."
Literally everyone: "Yes."
Musk: "lol j/k tho"
It would be interesting to see whether, if someone without a blue check now were to bring a similar lawsuit, the fact that Twitter offers verification for a price could be enough to defend against it. I wonder whether the plaintiff could argue that they should not have to pay to not be maliciously impersonated.
love the books in the background, kyle baller
And Elon stans say he's the greatest mind of all time and just superior to the rest of us.
Nothing says, "Buy my product" like trying to force it onto others for free as a punishment for your critics.
"Don't spit in our eye and tell us its raining" lmfao
Now you'll get more street cred without the stupid check mark.
For someone who despises Elmo, this story is like catnip for me
This is like saying Google has shut down an app or project. The list is like a phone book.
What's twitter? Never heard of it.
He kinda destroyed the whole point of Twitter.
They should add a feature to select that no blue check tweets show up in the feed.
agree bro
You get a checkmark
*You get a checkmark*
*EVERYBODY GETS A CHECKMARK*
It’s like watching somebody kick a dead horse…
He needs to worry about getting to Mars safely and not likes of Twitter
No harassment laws in mars
I wish he would go already
Musk wont be the one to get us to Mars. He lacks the focus.
@@Mydogslove2laugh lol
That ship has sailed. They're saying his (exploded) "Starship" will eventually be able to go to Mars, but from the looks of it, it's just seeming like more Vaporware - the thing hasn't even gone to the moon or left orbit yet and there's more talk about it being a pleasure cruise for rich tourists than any talk about it actually being used to go to Mars.
'Last call and everyone is stumbling out the door'. 🤣🤣🤣 Brilliant, never have I heard such an appropriate description of the cesspool that is twitter.
This is probably why they fired him at PayPal, we just never heard
That Binder can be so annoying 😂😂🤣🤣
"A monetized way to prioritize the promotion of his own fans' opinions" is exactly the kind of thing I would expect a greedy self absorbed billionaire to do. Still doesn't make it NOT stupid.
Follow the money and you’ll see why Twitter is being destroyed.
Elmo can "lose" his mind? The man has a mind which is twisted like a stale pretzel that's been sitting in the warmer too long~ with regard to his Twitter nonsense 🙄
“Elon Musk Humiliates Himself”
Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?
I jumped ship from Twitter as soon as it was confirmed Elon bought it, looks like I made the right call. What a disaster.
Check marks are the new gold stars from kindergarten class😂
I missed black haired Kyle, nice to have you back bro
Let’s hear it for Elon SINGLE-HANDEDLY dispelling the myth of richer =smarter 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
It's truly extraordinary that Elon can't make a fool of himself often enough to one day finally be considered a fool by others who hero-worship the rich. What else can he do?
Block them all.
Let it not be forgotten that the person behind verification was Tony LaRussa
The blue check marks sound very much like the dr. Seuss story stars upon thars 🤦♂️
This is the problem with children who inherit their money. They don't have to educate themselves. They don't have to do anything to be a better person.
The only thing I don’t like about that Block the Blue campaign is that it significantly hurts sex workers on the platform, who unfortunately often have to treat it as a necessity in order to promote their platforms.
I know it seems juvenile, and I used to rarely ever block anyone, although occasionally I'd mute threads because they're my own worst enemy. I end up in back and forth arguments / debates for hours or days and it's not the best use of my time.
However, simply because now all the blue accounts - many of them not particularly insightful, or worth reading, are pushed to the top of the replies in tweets.
And no offense to them, but I'm not interesting in reading what Joe with 12 followers thinks of "woke Hollywood" or whatever they're complaining about.
I am interesting in seeing the most useful / insightful and popular comments. Sometimes, unfortunately, they're of the same opinion as Joe with 12 followers, but at least there's some reason other than it being a paid-for-tweet, for the comment being at the top. I'm having to block a lot of blue accounts for this. It's the only way to filter them out. I don't block official accounts, even shit I disagree with like Fox News, or Ted Cruz, but I will block small blue accounts because there's no reason for their tweets being pushed to the top, except because they paid for it.
Twitter should've put all the legacy verified accounts in a database that would flag accounts trying to impersonate them. I've been seeing so many imposter accounts.
As a developer, I'm sure they are. In fact, I'd bet on the data still being in the same database. Having the UI determine that check mark from a different data source makes it very easy to switch it back or create new functionality/automation to make use of preexisting data. People acting like this is a flop and/or all credibility of the previous system is lost are just demonstrating a fundamental ignorance. It's topics like these that have made me really how much people like Kyle are talking out of their ass.
This situation will make a great Fred Knudsen/DTRH video in a few years.
Congrats on the hair dude. You look MUCH better.😊
Treat everyone [based on their monetary value]
Matt Binder having real estate in elon musks head is the greatest thing ever😂.
Hey, with that $160k in monthly revenue, it'll only take 2300 years to recoup his $44 billion!
Just about the time when those cars can actually be called safe self-driving .
He paid for Stephen King when he's the one that told him he should be paying him. Hmm.
This was supposed to be the real world Tony Stark!? 😂
"Aha! It was my plan all along!", says the mad genius. If it doesn't explode to bits in the end, it ain't worth making!
Lol bring back the "mister" societal convention. Creeeeeepy
How many times is this now? Number 17,831?
This has the feel of " let them eat cake"
We can all laugh knowing that 1 of 28 of those subs is from Penguinz0…