Kung Fu Panda 4: A new low for the franchise...

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  • @DanGamingFan2846
    @DanGamingFan2846 3 месяца назад +533

    So turns out one of the reasons why KFP4 was so mid is because Dreamworks hired a yes man director (Mike Mitchell) and told him what THEY wanted in a KFP4, even if it had the same writers. It seems like they were told to make it very "jokey", so they wanted a full on comedy. It also seems the co-director (Stephanie Ma Stine) really wanted to put as much heart and emotion into the film as the first two movies, but her ideas were ditched. Instead she was mistreated and called a "nobody" by the crew.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 3 месяца назад +46

      Lethal Weapon 2, did the same thing with their script, Joel Silver hated Shane Black's script, because it was too violent, and, Martin Riggs died at the, end, as a result, we got that obscenely overrated mess, and, pathetic, third, and, fourth, films, he's just a hack producer that lucked into, Lethal Weapon, and, Die Hard, really disastrously nasty, period.

    • @Trash-ef2jn
      @Trash-ef2jn 3 месяца назад +95

      I hate toxic work environments

    • @Sinsmoke_
      @Sinsmoke_ 3 месяца назад +7

      Source?

    • @chrisbrasel8060
      @chrisbrasel8060 3 месяца назад +29

      That explains why the fourth Kung fu panda is so mid I liked it but compared to the rest of the series it's okay and repeats lots of things we've done before without much new stuff. Stephanie being disrespected like that is wrong and off such it because of her that we got the best out of this series now they're just playing the greatest hits list not trying any thing new for now.

    • @blueflare3848
      @blueflare3848 3 месяца назад +4

      Source?

  • @Peekabye
    @Peekabye 3 месяца назад +205

    Since she’s a chameleon with shapeshifting powers they could’ve made her someone suffering an identity crisis who copes by impersonating as the furious 5 to feel secure with herself but takes it way too far to the point of getting away with stalking the furious 5 with her shapeshifting, breaking their trust with each other.

    • @Thane3999
      @Thane3999 3 месяца назад +42

      Or you could have had Zhen and Chameleon be one and the same character (with some tweaks) who was personally trying to fool Po.
      Like, aren't foxes known shapeshifters in Asian mythology?
      Would make a twist much stronger, we would get to know her better as a character throughout the movie, and their fight would feel more personal.
      Maybe you could have Po acting as "spiritual leader" and for the first time in his life, helping villain see error of their ways, and try to help them with redemption, instead of just killing them.
      "Villain redemption arc" might be too overused, but it would totally work here.

    • @arnowisp6244
      @arnowisp6244 3 месяца назад +14

      That would have been a Nice call back to Po and his Fanboy of the Furious 5 but a more extreme version

    • @arnowisp6244
      @arnowisp6244 3 месяца назад +7

      ​@@Thane3999 Po is moving from Dragon warrior to teacher like Oogway so that would have been a Perfect way to show the change in Po's life.

    • @lucascaracas4781
      @lucascaracas4781 3 месяца назад +4

      ​@@arnowisp6244even in the show they did a better job with that by introducing tai lung's nephew (even though it didn't make much sense), I loved that character when I was a kid

    • @koichidignitythief7429
      @koichidignitythief7429 3 месяца назад

      I was hoping she'd literally be a two-faced sociopath that Po trusts at first but we know through Zhen she's a conniving bitch.

  • @dracodracarys2339
    @dracodracarys2339 3 месяца назад +182

    Kai is dead. Not even banished to the spirit realm, he is doubly-dead body and soul alike. He has completely ceased to exist. He has died even in the afterlife.
    SO HOW TF IS HE EVEN HERE?!

    • @l.aliban5122
      @l.aliban5122 3 месяца назад +10

      THATS WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING!!!!
      Same with Shen
      They are literally breaking their own rules just for a cash grab 😂

    • @DullPencil277
      @DullPencil277 3 месяца назад +30

      @@l.aliban5122 shen is in the spirit realm and so is tai lung, but kai being there makes no sense

    • @lucascaracas4781
      @lucascaracas4781 3 месяца назад +7

      ​@@DullPencil277wasn't the spirit realm only for Kung Fu masters?

    • @kade-qt1zu
      @kade-qt1zu 3 месяца назад

      ​@@lucascaracas4781Honestly, no idea.

    • @l.aliban5122
      @l.aliban5122 3 месяца назад

      @@DullPencil277 I mean I guess

  • @artistanthony1007
    @artistanthony1007 3 месяца назад +76

    The big problem is why does Po need a successor now? Seriously.

    • @nemesisyt2338
      @nemesisyt2338 3 месяца назад +8

      Ask Shifu

    • @sakuracardcaptor4709
      @sakuracardcaptor4709 3 месяца назад +5

      @emptyglass7867They can do that but no apprentice! Kids now can see Po and enjoy his character the way he is already duh 😅

    • @zebare726
      @zebare726 2 месяца назад +3

      The interesting thing is that the dragon warrior was suppose to be a person who appears every 1000 years, and master oogway did sense the dragon warrior presence, hence why he wanted to have this dragon warrior ceremony.
      This dragon warrior was destined to bring big change for the kung fu world, but also defeat a future threat Kai( hence oogway was ok with losing to Kai)
      In kung fu panda 4, Po has to choose a dragon warrior, just because master Shifu wants it.

    • @nemesisyt2338
      @nemesisyt2338 2 месяца назад

      @@zebare726 Do you have an idea when did Tai Lung got captured by Kai and if he was good by then. And why did Kai attacked Oogway not until Kung Fu Panda 3 anstead already during Kung Fu Panda 1-2

  • @cyborgparrot1996
    @cyborgparrot1996 3 месяца назад +178

    If they make a 5th one (which no doubt they will) I hope they do what Shrek 4 did and quietly retcon this.
    There's no way you can make a Kung Fu Panda movie and not have the Furious 5 in it.

    • @03mbc
      @03mbc 3 месяца назад +3

      But there in the 4th flim

    • @heffermeenns
      @heffermeenns 3 месяца назад +43

      ​@@03mbc Yeah
      AT THE END OF IT

    • @DanGamingFan2846
      @DanGamingFan2846 3 месяца назад +13

      Do they really need to be in it though? They already don't serve much of a purpose in the third one. Why force them in if they don't do anything?

    • @renamon5658
      @renamon5658 3 месяца назад +16

      Who gonna tell em that there will be 6 kung fu panda movies

    • @nojorooney
      @nojorooney 3 месяца назад +8

      I mean, to be fair it’s not really Shrek 3 levels of bad so I don’t think retconning it fully is warranted. In my opinion it’s a good movie but it’s not a great one, not nearly as good as the original trilogy but still a fun watch but that’s just my opinion maybe I’m missing something. Shrek 3 was a dumpster fire from beginning to end

  • @Broken_Everlark7
    @Broken_Everlark7 3 месяца назад +148

    I'm so glad im not the only one who thinks this movie was terrible. Literally got everyone hyped up with Tai Lung just to ruin it with no furious 5, no VAs for kai or shen. And we get that stupid fox. And barely and redemption for Tai lung, plus he got beat WAY too easily. Chameleon is also a very plain and boring villain. Same with the fox, being the typical selfish thief that turns good and has 0 character whatsoever

    • @03mbc
      @03mbc 3 месяца назад +2

      Well to be fair it would have been a waste of time for Shen and Kai voice actors if they did speak in the flim

    • @Broken_Everlark7
      @Broken_Everlark7 3 месяца назад +19

      @@03mbc it wouldn't if they actually tried to make a good movie. This is a rushed cash grab to be fair

    • @03mbc
      @03mbc 3 месяца назад +4

      @@Broken_Everlark7 yeah the flim shouldn’t been like 28 more minutes longer

    • @dracodracarys2339
      @dracodracarys2339 3 месяца назад +11

      literally Awkwafina has gotten kind of annoying in animated movies at this point. From Raya, the Bad Guys, Migration, and Scuttle in the Little Mermaid remake and now this. talking in that rapid fire jokes that just get very exhausting very quickly

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 3 месяца назад +1

      ​​​​@dracodracarys2339 Her existence is, annoying-horribly.

  • @homecruz7743
    @homecruz7743 3 месяца назад +189

    Someone tell the chameleon that she's in the wrong franchise. The chameleon is a Spiderman villain.

    • @thecinematicmind
      @thecinematicmind 3 месяца назад +21

      That got a laugh out of me lol.

    • @andrewclark3330
      @andrewclark3330 3 месяца назад +11

      to be fair though. Danny Rand/Iron Fist did fight Po in an episode of Death Battle. so maybe that's why Chameleon is here

    • @dracodracarys2339
      @dracodracarys2339 3 месяца назад +2

      the chlamydia?

  • @TotallySearch
    @TotallySearch 3 месяца назад +77

    Dreamworks is the hit or miss studio, they can make Puss In Boots 2 on Monday then make Megamind 2 on Tuesday...

    • @thecinematicmind
      @thecinematicmind 3 месяца назад +8

      Unanimously all over the place Dreamworks.

    • @Dr.Oofers
      @Dr.Oofers 3 месяца назад +6

      Megamind 2 wasn’t even made by the movie division, it was made by the show division. So instead of a theatrical release (which is also a total gamble on the quality), they decided to a make it a streaming exclusive with a show to boot (which to be fair, would’ve also been a gamble on it coming out decent). They truly are the most wild-card studio out there.

  • @combatmedic3318
    @combatmedic3318 3 месяца назад +43

    No bc the part where she starts talking about her motivations, I was so confused. As if mantis isn’t small and viper is about the same damn size as her.

  • @a_naotenhonome780
    @a_naotenhonome780 3 месяца назад +43

    4:06 also viper she is small, and don't have limbs not, and she doesn't have poisonous fangs like the rest of her species either, yet she was trained and became part of the furious five like the more you think about it the chameleon makes no actual sense

    • @arunsp767
      @arunsp767 3 месяца назад +15

      And Master Shifu himself is tiny!

    • @a_naotenhonome780
      @a_naotenhonome780 3 месяца назад +7

      @@arunsp767 indeed, like did people behind this movie even looked at the previous characters for more than 10 seconds

    • @hamishstewart5324
      @hamishstewart5324 3 месяца назад +13

      Not to mention that one of the kung fu masters is a LITERAL CHICKEN!

    • @vertraeumtemoewe
      @vertraeumtemoewe 3 месяца назад +4

      @@hamishstewart5324Master Chicken!

    • @RandomDragonEXE
      @RandomDragonEXE 3 месяца назад +6

      ​@@hamishstewart5324I'm watching the 3rd movie rn, and there was a mention of a "Master Lizard". The Chameleon's backstory is wack

  • @bohgirl11
    @bohgirl11 3 месяца назад +34

    I wonder if Pixar considered Awkwafina to play Ember in "Elemental", but couldn't get to her because she was busy playing Miss Spider in "Bad Guys", Scuttle in The Little Mermaid" remake, the pigeon in "Migration", and Zhen in this movie, as well as the narrator in Disney Plus' "A Real Bug's Life".

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 3 месяца назад +1

      Elemental, was not only the worst film nominated, there were better films that weren't nominated, luckily, TBATH, won, as for Awkwafina, Hollywood, so, needs to put her out of our misery, yesterday.

    • @Living_In_Paradise
      @Living_In_Paradise 3 месяца назад +12

      ​@@matthewdaley746
      L
      Elemental is a beautiful goated movie and i will not let people keep slandering it.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@Living_In_Paradise Believe what you wish, Elemental, needed foreign markets to save it, and, the nomination absolutely reeks of, "we're the biggest animation studio in the world, and, thus, we're automatically nominated," fortunately, the Academy wasn't shameless enough to give Disney, yet, another trophy it absolutely didn't deserve.

    • @chonkeyshonkey
      @chonkeyshonkey 3 месяца назад

      ​@@matthewdaley746inside Out 2 will hold your beer 🍺

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 3 месяца назад

      ​​​@@chonkeyshonkeyThat's, seriously, inevitable, regrettably.

  • @ParkerCS2
    @ParkerCS2 3 месяца назад +12

    Tai Lung was wasted. He could’ve teamed up with Po or said goodbye and make amends with Shifu (the latter which actually was supposed to happen but they cut the scene from the final film.)

  • @jeremyusreevu237
    @jeremyusreevu237 3 месяца назад +45

    I mean, this movie gave us Tenacious D's cover of Baby One More Time, so it's not all bad.

    • @TheIqram12
      @TheIqram12 3 месяца назад +7

      That’s a low bar lmao

  • @TwilightChomperEnthusiast
    @TwilightChomperEnthusiast 3 месяца назад +64

    The best thing to come from this movie is that it gave everyone a newfound appreciation for the third one.

  • @sexy1018
    @sexy1018 3 месяца назад +5

    It’s funny how 2 years ago when The Bad Guys and Puss in Boots: The Last Wish came out, many people on the internet were saying DreamWorks was making a comeback after having a string of average animated films like the Trolls films, The Boss Baby films and Spirit: Untamed and using it as an excuse to hate on Disney.
    Oh - what's that? NOW look - there’s are video released in hindsight of Kung Fu Panda 4’s release, discussing how DreamWorks is now “going downhill”. It really sure shows how many narrow-minded people on the internet will just automatically jump to the conclusion that a studio is returning back to its successful heights as in the old years, from just 2 frigging films, without considering the overall possible critical and financial outcome of the films following.
    Hilarious.

  • @a.t.m873
    @a.t.m873 3 месяца назад +48

    I hope it's not a forever trend that movies look good but turn out to be bad to awful.

  • @martijnklaassen3536
    @martijnklaassen3536 3 месяца назад +5

    About the Chameleon...
    I like her design
    The voice actress did a decend job
    Her powers are a legit good concept
    But they made her so lame... the director gave the writers NOTHING to work with

    • @thecinematicmind
      @thecinematicmind 2 месяца назад

      It genuinely felt scenes were missing from her character.

  • @kade-qt1zu
    @kade-qt1zu 3 месяца назад +30

    How to make sure Kung Fu Panda 5 good:
    -Introduce Japan into the world
    -Create a new villain that actually serves as a dark reflection of Po (maybe base him off a Japanese mythological creature)
    -Develop Zhen more (and try to find a new voice actress)
    -Bring back Tai Lung
    -End the film with the villain winning

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 3 месяца назад +2

      Awkwafina is going to become like, ADB, getting great roles because she, "deserves," them, as for letting the villain win, unless you're making two films simultaneously, it's far too risky, because, whenever, a terrible franchise continues solely off of popularity, eventually, people voluntarily skip it, period.

    • @ZG2008
      @ZG2008 3 месяца назад +4

      We need Godzilla…
      Also for Zhen, I agree that they need to develop her character more in the 5th one and also I don’t think they are going to recast her, they would just see that as unnecessary. I don’t think Tai Lung shouldn’t be in the other films as he already got a solid or Ok conclusion in this film (at least for me). I like the Idea of Japanese martial arts being a part of the next one, it gives them an opportunity to expand the world. I wasn’t thinking if it before but if you mean the villain winning as in a 2 parter like Infinity War and Endgame, then I’m all down for that.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 3 месяца назад +3

      ​@ZG2008 Thank You, they won't recast her because it's like a very popular tv series that's, so, good, it succeeds, despite, having one demonstrably incorrigible character, apparently, Addition By Subtraction's, a lost art, The, More Things Change.

    • @kade-qt1zu
      @kade-qt1zu 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@ZG2008Yeah, I think if there's any nation they should introduce in the next movie, it's Japan simply because the two countries share a long history of interactions between each other. I would also love to see a Raiju in the next movie.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 3 месяца назад

      @@kade-qt1zu A recasting's certainly, called-for.

  • @HydragonofDeath
    @HydragonofDeath 3 месяца назад +41

    Not even gonna lie, with how little evil the Chameleon did in the movie, I thought they were gonna have her go through a redemption arc because the whole movie's message is change, so what would make more sense than having the villain change from bad to good (and they needed her to be redeemable so they couldn't have her do too much bad shit)?
    But nope they straight up kill her lmao.
    What a waste of a character.

    • @Thane3999
      @Thane3999 3 месяца назад +11

      Personally, I felt like you could easily fuse Chameleon and Aquafina Fox into one character, a co-protagonist who is simultaneously a villain, who might get redeemed at the end.
      After all, Po is now suposse to be a "spiritual leader" and what's more spiritual then redeeming someone?

    • @vertraeumtemoewe
      @vertraeumtemoewe 3 месяца назад +1

      That’s making me so sad how less of sense that movie make to the other 3 ones..

  • @batatafrita2783
    @batatafrita2783 3 месяца назад +10

    7:56 she would have been perfect, after all... She voiced one of the most heartbreaking moments in steven Universe, Amethyst breaking down was so well executed

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 3 месяца назад

      Isn't, Awkwafina, perfection's, obtained-automatically.

    • @joshuamercado6885
      @joshuamercado6885 3 месяца назад

      Or maybe if there’s a third kung fu panda show coming she’ll probably voice her

    • @joshuamercado6885
      @joshuamercado6885 3 месяца назад

      Fourth I mean

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 2 месяца назад

      ​​​@@joshuamercado6885A horrific prediction, unquestionably.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 2 месяца назад

      ​​​@@joshuamercado6885Franchise Fatigue depressing, unquestionably.

  • @HidronUltrix
    @HidronUltrix 3 месяца назад +22

    Kfp 3 isn’t a bad movie for me, just wished they gave Kai more fleshing out, and this movie could’ve done that since everyone thought the past 3 villains of the franchises would return, but no
    Also they could’ve made the chameleon like yuzma from THAT llama movie and I would’ve been happy

    • @Thane3999
      @Thane3999 3 месяца назад +5

      Chameleons being genuienly comedic villain is great idea, but I personally feel that maybe they could have fused Chameleon and Zhen into one character, which would make for much stronger story and better twist

    • @HidronUltrix
      @HidronUltrix 3 месяца назад

      @@Thane3999 I think making her unique by giving her a comedic sense of horror to her actions, just basically making her a complete menace but I do see your idea tho

  • @elenanojkovic2554
    @elenanojkovic2554 3 месяца назад +12

    Chameleon's motivations are so nonsensical because, as everyone pointed out, Mantis exists. And Shifu who is small. Master Chicken is a character in the third film. And if she wanted to know Kung Fu so bad and if her town knows about Shifu...wouldn't she go where he is? A red panda master! Even if she found Shifu in his worst post-Tai Lung depression, Oogway would've taken her on!

    • @bennysundance175
      @bennysundance175 2 месяца назад

      Maybe she was just Coping for her Lazyness????

  • @liamphibia
    @liamphibia 3 месяца назад +8

    DreamWorks *BETTER* not screw up Shrek 5.😓

    • @joshuamercado6885
      @joshuamercado6885 3 месяца назад

      Well I saw in the shrek 5 vailskibum video he said its gonna be animated by illumination

  • @meta527II
    @meta527II 3 месяца назад +13

    I found it enjoyable enough, nothing amazing, just enjoyable enough. But I do see why so many people hate this movie.

    • @03mbc
      @03mbc 3 месяца назад +3

      It kinda of harsh

    • @meta527II
      @meta527II 3 месяца назад +2

      @@03mbcDo you mean the hate for it is too harsh?

  • @Paradoxed29
    @Paradoxed29 3 месяца назад +8

    Watch your step or I'll go big, I really wanted them to have a better introduction for the chameleon and whatever the fox's name was cuz it's Kung Fu Panda for freaking sake

  • @zebare726
    @zebare726 2 месяца назад +1

    The interesting thing is that the dragon warrior was suppose to be a person who appears every 1000 years, and master oogway did sense the dragon warrior presence, hence why he wanted to have this dragon warrior ceremony.
    This dragon warrior was destined to bring big change for the kung fu world, but also defeat a future threat Kai( hence oogway was ok with losing to Kai)
    In kung fu panda 4, Po has to choose a dragon warrior, just because master Shifu wants it.

  • @realkamek698
    @realkamek698 3 месяца назад +8

    Kung Fu Panda 5: Rock Bottom

  • @entertainmentpowerfuchs5744
    @entertainmentpowerfuchs5744 3 месяца назад +3

    Even the lowest moment of Kung Fu Panda is higher than the best moments of the Boss Baby franchise.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 3 месяца назад

      Yeah, well, don't worry, I'm fairly certain that the, Boss Baby, franchise is clearly, already, on borrowed time, and, it will, likely, end, very soon, because of, well, you know.

  • @pascaleelliott63
    @pascaleelliott63 3 месяца назад +2

    I think Dreamworks did with "Megamind 2" the same as what DIsney did in their sequal era. I wouldn't be surprised if "Megamind 2" was originally gonna be a TV show with episodes fighting different villains in various episodes, alongside a "cool qwuirky kid sidekick", i.e. the Bridge to Terabithia Lesley knockoff that we see team up with Megamind. Only for the execs to decide "Nah! Let's just smash the episodes together and pretend it's a deliberate movie sequal!"

  • @NedIsForever
    @NedIsForever 2 месяца назад

    The stairs thing kinda makes sense with po’s running fear of stairs

  • @chrisbrasel8060
    @chrisbrasel8060 3 месяца назад +4

    Kung Fu Panda for Dreamworks is the don't judge a book based on it's cover because it's truly does so much more than what you expected from a title like Kung Fu panda. I watched all of the films piror and even the Nicktoon spin off series and the films showcase Dreamworks best aspects in filmmaking and storytelling & the 4th film in comparsion is just fine good enough but for this series it's a bit disappointing to see the series go on autoplay playing the greatest hits including having the past villains be back but is a safe and fine film in a series that's done so much better hope 5 picks up things after this.

  • @gumundureyorarnfinnsson4212
    @gumundureyorarnfinnsson4212 2 месяца назад

    Holy shit raisorblade i really cant wait for you to delv deep into the second one in fact wouldent mind seeing you do the other two

  • @otobot45
    @otobot45 3 месяца назад +2

    This has been stated somewhere else, but why does Po even need to retire from being the Dragon Warrior in this movie? It's only been a few years and Oogway named Po his successor when he was close to death.

  • @03mbc
    @03mbc 3 месяца назад +11

    Oh boy this isn’t gonna be good

  • @cornellbannister4012
    @cornellbannister4012 3 месяца назад +1

    I'm wondering if you can review or watch yo kai watch shadowside?

  • @valeriopastore7310
    @valeriopastore7310 3 месяца назад +1

    Opening scene: Black, darkness.
    Titles, as muffled sounds makes themselves more and more discenible.
    Just as "Dreamworks presents" appears on scree, the eyes of the beholders open.
    And Po awakes. In a forest. We don't know where. HE doesn't know where.All he knows is that there's two creatures in front of him. And that he's beaten up for good, even his pants tattered.
    From now on, it becomes a movie about getting back his own identity, a voyage of the hero 'back to basics'. For without any memories of his past deeds,without his name, Po is once again an incompetent scaredy-cat. The travelers want to help him to some sacred place where he can find his self.
    And during his voyage, we are introduced to the all-new awesome villain who, without unduly intereference from the Dragon Warrior, is on a rampaging campaign of conquest. And for the Five Furies it becomes a race against time to defend the land (thus giving them precious spotligjt!)
    As the story progresses, we dsicover that Po was defeated, but he was also saved by someone and whisked away at the last moment -the travelers! And when the Bad Boss discovers at last where Po is, he sends his minions -giving some respite to the brave Five.
    The baddies destroy sacred place, but this time po realizes that all he had to do was look into himself to get back what he thought he had lost. Dragon Warrior is back, final battle, Panda wins.
    IT'S NOT DIFFICULT RIGHT???

  • @DuskShadow235
    @DuskShadow235 3 месяца назад +3

    I agree that Kung Fu Panda 2 is the best one

  • @ZaxFSO8083
    @ZaxFSO8083 3 месяца назад

    Funny enough I remember and have downloaded that Fireflight song at the end of last year

  • @user-vv3xr4zv3i
    @user-vv3xr4zv3i 3 месяца назад

    I'm wondering if you have seen godzilla minus one if you have I am curious about you opinion on the film

  • @Desiqnify
    @Desiqnify 3 месяца назад +2

    I want to watch Kung Fu Panda 4 in a parallel universe where Tai Lung becomes the new Dragon Warrior and he becomes friends with Po in the end ^^

  • @betterlatethannever4529
    @betterlatethannever4529 3 месяца назад +5

    KP2 is the best of the series

  • @AngrySonicBros
    @AngrySonicBros 3 месяца назад +2

    3:20 I say the animation and (maybe) the fight scenes are better especially with how they use stylized anime elements and just the way they’re choreographed.

  • @mysteries_117
    @mysteries_117 3 месяца назад +3

    Honestly
    It's not as bad as Shrek the Third or even Megamind 2
    I just hope they learn from this and try to improve upon in the next film

  • @queendsheena1
    @queendsheena1 3 месяца назад +1

    I think Dreamworks and other studios need to expand their writer's rooms. There's clearly a deficit in ideas among experts in Hollywood. Whether need to reach out to fans or hire a new crop of employees, something has to be done. I haven't seen the movie and as a writer watching this. My first thought was why they didn't make the Chameleon an opposite version of Tai Lung. Have her being forced to suppress her powers because it was seen as dangerous, have her meet Po and him seeing the magnificence of her power, and when he stands up for her have the establishment decide to lock her up and Po takes off with her to prove everyone wrong. Then have the furious five be assigned to bring her back. Or if you can't afford that, have Shifu go along with Po's two dads. Let it be a journey of proving that power isn't inherently bad, but it depends on who wields it. This is a basic overlay, but it sounds better than mid-villain shifter and Po relearning the same lessons.

    • @Dr.Oofers
      @Dr.Oofers 3 месяца назад +1

      Apparently the lead director is to blame for the movie’s short comings. I think someone said this came from a Q&A with the co-director, but the lead director wanted to turn KFP4 into a generic action-comedy (like *stupidly* comedic, even a scene about a box that lasts 20 minutes was planned).
      The co-director wanted KFP4 to be more like the first two films, but she kept getting ignored since the lead director had “more experience”, and was a “yes-man” to the execs (explains the random pop-songs). He’s also to blame for the bs backstory for the chameleon since, for god knows what reason, wanted her (and Zhen) to have no backstory.

  • @stellesappho
    @stellesappho 3 месяца назад +1

    hey! i'm still watching the video and if i can offer some feedback, it would be good to have a different filter on the movie clips if that's possible, because this particular one has flashing lights that make it a little difficult and unpleasant to watch
    that being said, you're doing really nice videos, thank you!!

  • @yosoyringodesanantonio8405
    @yosoyringodesanantonio8405 3 месяца назад +5

    7:34 - 7:35 aaaaahhhh water bottle girl jumpscare!
    (She also played webs from the bad guys and she was okay, so as chump (in her only best scene where she gets hit by buses vehicles and bikes) from migration, but definitely not the Aquafina dragon from Raya, and Scuttle from the little mermaid remake, she should have won (or nominated for) a Razzie for worst actress)

  • @yosoyringodesanantonio8405
    @yosoyringodesanantonio8405 3 месяца назад +3

    8:18 - 8:21 she is the next Adam Sandler and Rob Schneider of the 2020s era of Hollywood during post covid

    • @flighttoons7777
      @flighttoons7777 3 месяца назад +1

      Exactly

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 3 месяца назад +1

      Adam Sandler has, both, a production company, and, a criminally underrated ability to do dramatic roles, whenever, the situation calls for it, Awkwafina has, neither, of those things, eventually, I think she becomes, The, Julia Ormond, Of This Generation, (minus the talent), and, inevitably, the public totally, Rage Quits, her in disgust.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 3 месяца назад

      ​​​@@flighttoons7777Frauds get exposed, unquestionably.

  • @silashurd3597
    @silashurd3597 3 месяца назад +6

    I watched this movie in the theater last night. I really enjoyed it. Yeah, it’s not really that good compared to the first 2, but if you ask me: it’s a flawed but very fun movie. It does lack some stuff that made the others better, but I digress

  • @geardog24
    @geardog24 3 месяца назад +9

    Why did it feel like they really wanted Jack Black to retire from the series and replace him with Awkwafina?

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 3 месяца назад +5

      I really want Hollywood to retire Awkwafina, but, they've completely refused because she's in popular films, and, apparently, they, can't/don't/won't, understand that correlation doesn't equal causation.

    • @AmericaFuckYeah4
      @AmericaFuckYeah4 3 месяца назад

      Stop acting like it's Awkwafina's fault it isn't

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 3 месяца назад +1

      ​​​@@AmericaFuckYeah4Circumstances, dictate, otherwise, unquestionably.

    • @AmericaFuckYeah4
      @AmericaFuckYeah4 3 месяца назад

      @@matthewdaley746 That's not an excuse

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@AmericaFuckYeah4 Neither, is fraudulent, "popularity," Awkwafina appears in popular films, but, not only are they not popular because of her, they're popular in, spite, of her, the industry needs to realize what the rest of us, already, know, lest they disgrace themselves even more, period.

  • @videon6134
    @videon6134 3 месяца назад +1

    Reading the behind the scenes from the girl who co-directed the movie it agitates me knowing the movie I waited eight years for could've been passable but was crock.

  • @jeremy1860
    @jeremy1860 3 месяца назад +7

    KFP4 is one of those cases where I don't think the movie is in any way bad. But the previous films just set the bar so high that it makes it nigh-impossible to see 4 as anything but a downgrade. That's the problem with making masterpieces. You can't make them all the time, sadly 😟

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 3 месяца назад

      Godfather Part III, unquestionably.

    • @Reader999
      @Reader999 3 месяца назад +3

      Not really. KFP 4 has several problems that include character assassination like shown in the scene with all the villains respecting Po out of no where. So I don't see how setting the bar high from the early films changes the issues present in the 4th other than setting yourself for disappointment, I guess.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 3 месяца назад +1

      ​​​​@@Reader999Awkwafina dwarfs other, deficiencies-horrifically.

  • @JonixCraft
    @JonixCraft 3 месяца назад

    I wonder if you ever saw the film Birdemic. I have a feeling you are going to have a field day with that movie.

  • @snbsixteen6stars201
    @snbsixteen6stars201 3 месяца назад +3

    Megamind2 Its not a movie its a pitch pilot re packaged as a movie

  • @justinthewarrior9165
    @justinthewarrior9165 3 месяца назад +1

    Oh man, let me tell you. I love the franchise so much. You see when I was a kid. I love the first one I went to The movie theater.
    Sing This first movie. I love it as a kid. The first one was always my favorite and still is the second 1 was even better because I always love the second 1 even more and the third 1, though the third 1 was fine. And okay. I guess it's not bad, but it's okay. As for the fourth one I haven't seen it yet. I'm still. Not seeing any videos. People talking about it because I would make Spoilers and I do not want spoilers but either way, I will plan to see the fourth one

  • @unleasherquiles8319
    @unleasherquiles8319 3 месяца назад +3

    Holy shit new look and new animations. This one looks more badass.

    • @Anti_power_scaling
      @Anti_power_scaling 3 месяца назад

      Yeah but the issue here is the story is fuc up

    • @unleasherquiles8319
      @unleasherquiles8319 3 месяца назад

      @@Anti_power_scaling Was referring to Raisor’s character silly.

  • @gasterthemaster6490
    @gasterthemaster6490 3 месяца назад +1

    I 100% agree with this review.
    As a movie, it's pretty good.
    As a sequel, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

  • @WillowMeow
    @WillowMeow 3 месяца назад +3

    man got a new drip

  • @Thane3999
    @Thane3999 3 месяца назад +1

    Yeah, Kung Fu Panda 4 is a solid cartoon, but not as a cinematic release for Kung Fu Panda movies.
    Would make for nice episodes in a Kung Fu Panda tv show, but not a full on movie.
    Kung Fu Panda movies are renown for it's strong writing, rather then everything else.
    This movie has some good written scenes (between Po's dad's or boat scene between Po and Zhen), but it's simply too....simple.
    Like it's just another cartoon movie, that has good animation, direction and artwork, nice message and handful of good laughs.
    It feels like something from Nickleodon, then LONG AWAITED SEQUEL to big movie franchise.

    • @vertraeumtemoewe
      @vertraeumtemoewe 3 месяца назад

      Don’t know.. the fourth movie just feels so bad to me. For me I can’t give that a canon. It never happened xD

  • @PizzaGuy2001
    @PizzaGuy2001 3 месяца назад

    I’m thinking of writing the story, but still keeping the original parts of the movie

  • @VScorpio-oc4ei
    @VScorpio-oc4ei 3 месяца назад

    So raisorblade I have a question

  • @joshuaW5621
    @joshuaW5621 3 месяца назад

    This movie isn’t out in Ireland yet. I’m not expecting it to be as great as the first 3 movies and I definitely see some faults with it, but hopefully I’ll enjoy it more than you did.

  • @berengerdietiker22
    @berengerdietiker22 3 месяца назад +2

    And yet, Kung Fu Panda 5 and Kung Fu Panda 6 are forthcoming.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 3 месяца назад

      Yeah, unexplainedly-inevitably, for, "reasons."

  • @user-jh4lx4mi3c
    @user-jh4lx4mi3c 3 месяца назад +1

    at least Kung Fu Panda never skips a beat from both it's action and it's comedy plus Jack Black is Awesome as Po Never forget that

  • @koichidignitythief7429
    @koichidignitythief7429 3 месяца назад

    If I could make tweaks to the movie, here's how I would've done it.
    Po's journey is triggered because he needs to find someone to be his successor one day, only here Po is cool with it, because he imagines how cool his student will be and talks about how he won't be judgy or strict like Shifu. The staff comes into play as his means of finding that person like a metal detector and it's in Juniper City. 


    Chameleon is just straight-up evil, but she's manipulative and knows how to hide her true intentions being a master shapeshifter in all that. She's a corrupt ruler who gets away with her crimes against her own subjects through charisma and framing other people like Zhen. For much of the movie, she plays the victim and benevolent ruler to Po, while we know behind the scenes she wants the staff to open the spirit realm for pretty much the same purpose in the movie.


    Zhen is very anti-authority and for good reason considering the person running the city. She used to be a student at the city’s temple but left after realizing how she was helping keep Chameleon in power. So she isn’t exactly friendly to Po when they first meet. Nor has a high opinion of Kung Fu.
She leads the band of thieves and other downtrodden people for survival and has pretty much accepted their lot that they'll be seen only as crooks.
    Po meets her similarly to the movie, trying to stop her from stealing artifacts. When Zhen takes the staff it glows brightly meaning she’s the next Dragon Warrior. This leads to a conflict throughout the movie of Po pretty much bemoaning that the next Dragon Warrior is a criminal and not the righteous hero he imagined. He buys into Chameleon’s sob story about being small except it’s just bullshit and she knows it. So he doesn’t immediately beat her throughout half the movie because he thinks he’s helping her.


    And for Oogway’s sake, develop Zhen and Po’s relationship. Have Po realize that heroism isn’t as black and white as he believed. Have Zhen rediscover the value of Kung Fu and that she can make a difference. Recapture some magic we saw with Shifu and Po in the first movie.

    

Keep the side plot with Mr Ping and Li. Keep the bit of Tai Lung bowing to Po. Just leave Kai and Shen out of it. Kai is supposed to be ultra-dead, and Shen isn’t a true Kung Fu master.

  • @nahomgirma5095
    @nahomgirma5095 3 месяца назад

    1:04 If you activate the caption section, instead of it saying "Kung Fu Panda 4" it says "Kum Fu Panda."

  • @bug1gub225
    @bug1gub225 3 месяца назад

    I wish Po had gotten older (an elderly master even) and had a role similar to Peter B Parker from the Spider-Verse movie. or better yet be the "master oogway" to a new character. besides showing the Chameleon to have some importance

  • @Trash-ef2jn
    @Trash-ef2jn 3 месяца назад +1

    I have not watched it yet but I am planning to to and what are you reviewing next may I make some suggestions for a negative review dino time,bayformers and the live action cat in the hat those movies are terrible and for a positive review the dark crystal and it's prequel series, labyrinth and meet the Robinsons

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 3 месяца назад

      Michael Bay has never made a good film, The, Rock, his, "best," film, is unwatchable, whenever, Sean Connery's offscreen, and, at least, thirty minutes too long, Con Air, was the same film, with worse actors, and, claimed the career of Simon West, Transformers, was the same film, five times, BBFL, was better without him, he's just a complete hack that got really lucky, period.

    • @Trash-ef2jn
      @Trash-ef2jn 3 месяца назад

      @@matthewdaley746 yes I agree I never liked his transformers movies and I think that the last knight is his worse because it is one of the worst movies I've ever seen in my life

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 3 месяца назад

      ​​​​​@Trash-ef2jn I enjoyed the original, somewhat, and, additionally, the ones that he didn't actually direct himself are truly fantastic thrill rides, coincidence, I think, not.

    • @Trash-ef2jn
      @Trash-ef2jn 3 месяца назад

      Yes the one that he didn't direct are in fact good the original is a mixed bag for me and what do you think about the other stuff I suggested

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 3 месяца назад

      ​​​​@@Trash-ef2jnCertainly, a promising experience.

  • @snbsixteen6stars201
    @snbsixteen6stars201 3 месяца назад +3

    We got master koi fish from the series, Mantis and master chicken, charachters who were smaller then the Chameleon

  • @lillay304
    @lillay304 3 месяца назад +1

    Yes #2 is the best

  • @renegadedjinn5325
    @renegadedjinn5325 3 месяца назад +2

    Great glow up, dude

  • @justinthewarrior9165
    @justinthewarrior9165 12 дней назад

    I did it. I managed to watch the Fourth one and did I hate it or did I love it well? It was actually not bad. It was actually good. I mean I know there are people saying it was. Terrible and honestly not good but frankly. It actually got mean to smile because I love the first one so much. And it really did had references of it like if you're a fan of the first movie and the second one, maybe a little bit of the third 1. Then you will love the fourth one and frankly. I actually loved it like it was a little short. Honestly, but it could have been better. Could have been better seeing all three Popular villains from both 3 of the movies was honestly felt cheating a little bit because I'm not going to worry about their death anyway. But seeing the villain, the first movie I was so giddy like no joke. I couldn't tell you how smiling I was. But yeah, this move we was okay in some points, the villain. The villa was okay. Honestly, I didn't hate her. I just thought she did a really good job. She could have gotten better honestly, but I really did enjoy the villain and as for this movie, though. The humor was off, but it got me to laugh a little bit But I enjoyed it and with all this is the whole movie. I was really going to give it a 6 out of 10 button now. I'm gonna give it a 7 out of 10 like if you're a fan of the first one, you will love the fourth 1 I mean. What do you guys think I know what y'all are probably going to say like. This is actually one of the worst, but give it a chance. Honestly, like I personally thought it was really good, really good

  • @chonkeyshonkey
    @chonkeyshonkey 3 месяца назад

    I can't wait for your potential Inside Out 2 rant

  • @superfanmusicmaker
    @superfanmusicmaker 3 месяца назад +4

    Knowing some of the other batshit ideas they had in mind for this one, it's honestly kind of a miracle that the finished product is even remotely watchable.

  • @arminmaginatex501
    @arminmaginatex501 3 месяца назад

    The action was good and all, and the hug Zhen gave Po was beautiful and all...
    But most of the times, the movie forgot the critical rule of film making
    SHOW
    DON'T
    TELL

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 3 месяца назад

      Additionally, Awkwafina's demonstrably incorrigible.

  • @saralily0977
    @saralily0977 2 месяца назад

    0:34 oh my god!

  • @user-jh4lx4mi3c
    @user-jh4lx4mi3c 3 месяца назад +1

    my guess they'll set things up for another trilogy for Kung Fu Panda

    • @vertraeumtemoewe
      @vertraeumtemoewe 3 месяца назад

      Yes, but another trilogy with characters that don’t go well with the first movies. That’s super annoying. I hate when they go for something like that. Like what were the lessons for in the other movies if it keeps starting new. Argh. Just mad about that.

  • @03mbc
    @03mbc 3 месяца назад

    Yeah not great as 1 & 2 or even the 3rd flim but not saying so much let's hope The Wild Robot will be amazing also the reason the trailer came so late is because of the strike but this this isn't a bad flim

  • @CharlotteMacrickens
    @CharlotteMacrickens 3 месяца назад

    Damn you look different Raisorblade

  • @platinumpowerranger7941
    @platinumpowerranger7941 3 месяца назад

    The best way that I can sum up this movie as a whole is that it feels half-baked, in my opinion.

  • @missskypie1403
    @missskypie1403 3 месяца назад +4

    We went from a villain who committed literal genocide to a character who pulled an Omori and the character who was pushed didn't even die or get hurt.

  • @marcsuraci7759
    @marcsuraci7759 13 дней назад

    I would reccomend watching the Netflix Kung Fu Panda spinoff show that came out two years ago. It’s okay but it’s way better than the fourth film. The villains are good not as good as Shen or Tai Lung but way better than Chameleon for sure. I’d recommend it if you want something better.

  • @AngrySonicBros
    @AngrySonicBros 3 месяца назад +2

    Your review was pretty fair. I thought your critiques were understandable with the Chameleon and some of the writing. I liked the movie but I felt like it could’ve been better. The pacing was too fast, It wasn’t as emotionally resonant as the first three, The Furious Five not even being at the beginning is jarring, Lord Shen and Kai feel underutilized etc. Hopefully they address these issues in future movies (cause let’s be real they’re setting up two more movies with the way this one ends)

  • @DubeIncorperated
    @DubeIncorperated 3 месяца назад

    Why didn’t the chameleon try and go after Oogway?

  • @onexjaro636
    @onexjaro636 3 месяца назад +1

    I think you should make movie about Rio 2 because god that movie is bad

  • @emeraldmax112
    @emeraldmax112 3 месяца назад

    I watched this recently. In my personal opinion, it is not bad but it is not great either. I’ve decided to put this in my own category of “It could’ve been better. “

  • @butters461
    @butters461 3 месяца назад +6

    Wild Robot is gonna be peak though

    • @Anti_power_scaling
      @Anti_power_scaling 3 месяца назад +2

      Or it will be ruined..

    • @Dr.Oofers
      @Dr.Oofers 3 месяца назад

      Remember, it’s dreamworks, everything they make is a gamble.

    • @butters461
      @butters461 3 месяца назад

      @@Dr.Oofers considering the trailer I can safely say it's gonna be a good movie

  • @kingleonidas2182
    @kingleonidas2182 3 месяца назад

    Lmao having Zhen be Amethyst would’ve made me consider watching it lol.

  • @morganbrick9837
    @morganbrick9837 Месяц назад

    I just watched Kung fu panda 4, i didn't think it was that bad, i put it in the ok category, just my opinion at the end of the day
    I never understood Kai's return though, i thought Po legit blew him out of existence, literally, i didn't expect Kai to be still in the spirit realm, like, couldn't he return without the chameleon?

  • @jacklansdale77
    @jacklansdale77 3 месяца назад

    as Schaff once said, there is no such thing as a perfect movie, that it is simply too subjective. But a sequel? you can have a perfect sequel.

  • @cameronthomasfunnyclips
    @cameronthomasfunnyclips 3 месяца назад

    I like your new avatar

  • @noobfilmsproductions5635
    @noobfilmsproductions5635 3 месяца назад

    I had a feeling this movie wasn't going to be as good as the 1 2 and 3 KFP franchises. But it definitely wasn't terrible, the movie is just meh for me

  • @zacharyroth3028
    @zacharyroth3028 2 месяца назад

    I actually like Aquafina I’m sorry if I spelled it wrong, I liked in Shang Chi, I think she’s talented, just works best as a comedian and if a comedian is given a shit script then there’s not much you can do, honestly I think she needs to pull a Dakota Johnson and fire her agent

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 2 месяца назад +1

      Obscenely overrated absolutely, unquestionably.

  • @dylanhudec979
    @dylanhudec979 3 месяца назад +10

    Another wasted potential character

    • @homecruz7743
      @homecruz7743 3 месяца назад +1

      You mean Zhen or the chameleon?

    • @HydragonofDeath
      @HydragonofDeath 3 месяца назад +7

      @@homecruz7743 both

    • @jaredwalker3960
      @jaredwalker3960 3 месяца назад

      @@HydragonofDeathand Tai Lung with no redemption arc

  • @user-jh4lx4mi3c
    @user-jh4lx4mi3c 3 месяца назад +1

    I actually liked Kung Fu Panda 4 for what it was but it's nowhere near as Great as the first 3 Kung Fu Panda movies especially Kung Fu Panda 2 which is the Best of the Kung Fu Panda movies yeah I said it

  • @wahupminecraft1319
    @wahupminecraft1319 3 месяца назад

    5th movie should be what the furious five was doing during all this bs

  • @PKMNFAN151
    @PKMNFAN151 3 месяца назад

    Review An American Tail 3 and 4

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 3 месяца назад

      Two sorry installments, unquestionably.

  • @giorgimamalashvili4220
    @giorgimamalashvili4220 3 месяца назад

    the co-director WANTED to KFP 4 to be as a definitive love-letter to the first film and wanted to commit having really good ideas/bringing furious five back but no instead they called Catherine as a nobody...
    if they ever make a fifth movie i want her to come back as a solo director (and maaaayyyybe Calvin as a co-director who appearantly worked on a short film based on KFP 4 which she said was really good but they didnt gave it a budget...)
    not only that but to make it LESS JOKEY next time, and the studio Runtime mandate is absolute BS, you're telling me that Boss Baby 2 can be 15 minutes longer than a KFP movie? gtfo here Spider-verse movies and heck, some lengthy pixar films accomplished to be successful even with its young audience.
    someone REALLY needs to make a full in-depth video on KFP 4's development because MAN when i read it i was shocked on what they were planning (and what they rejected)
    now having said that...i dont hate this movie, its FAR from being the worst movie ever, yes i was dissapointed by it, it was the type of film i was expecting that i hoped that it wouldn't end up being.
    and yes i want Furious five back as a main sort of characters with good writing/story

  • @usuallyangry
    @usuallyangry 3 месяца назад +4

    It physically hurts to see a great franchise degrade with every new installment.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 3 месяца назад +1

      Or, worse, having plenty of great places to, end, and, using none of them, Mission Impossible, finally set the bar, so, high, the eighth installment's, inevitably, going to be a letdown, nevertheless, it must be the, end, whatever, the reception, truly must.

  • @ziemniak0killl251
    @ziemniak0killl251 3 месяца назад

    another thing except mantis bs, she COULD LITERALLY SHAPESHIFT INTO ANYTHING AND THEN LEARN KUNG FU, first of all that was not a deal breaker, example given is mantis, but then she could literally have a body of anything

  • @elver2218
    @elver2218 3 месяца назад

    Omori Kung fu Panda: