Roman obviously wasn’t a bigger champion than Hogan, but Roman is definitely a big star. People only started hating him because dirt sheets in 2015 kept saying that Vince wanted Roman to be a big star. Plus, at the 2015 Rumble, they wanted Bryan to win.
Roman is not in the same league as Hogan, Warrior, Macho Man, Rock and Stone Cold. You can tell wwe is pushing Roman to be a star, but he is missing that "it" factor. Damien Priest has a more "it" factor than Roman. They just need to book Damien correctly.
to test how mainstream a star is simply go to some non western places like maybe columbia or sudan or some town in india and ask who chad gable and bianca belair is....99% chance no one will heard of them names...im sure they know hogan or rock...
That’s like with Solo Sikoa. He was booked strong when he arrived on the main roster, defeated John Cena in convincing fashion then went on to lose 40 straight matches. How can he perceived as a credible threat?
I'm sorry but what WWE is doing now is elevating. Everybody knows wrestling fake and the reason Bronson is over is because we the fans love brutality that's what WWE is missing
Bronson isn't over. He gets crickets in his entrance. He's in a temp feud so Rollins has somebody to face and then he'll drop right back down the card. It happens all the time.
TV shows are fake. Should they completely ruin their own logic by having something stupid happen? Bronson isn’t really getting over. It’s just a typical beat down we’ve seen already with Shinsuke. If they have Bronson actually defeat Seth, I’ll be surprised.
@@datacipher He's not. What triggers people like you is that he speaks openly and honestly. He has told truths about your internet darlings, and you don't want to accept those facts, even though you know them to be true.
@@danielburger1775 lol. First… I don’t know who internet darlings is supposed to be. I’ve never seen Ryback wrestle. I’ve never seen cm punk wrestle. I’ve seen 2 aew matches and no wwe matches since around 2005. All I know about Ryback is that he said he’d quit if cm punk went to wwe, post food porn vids, and has said other thighs that turned out to be lies. And I know he’s doing that for attention - to the to build a following lol. That’s called… trolling. Otherwise, I couldn’t care less about him, or.. pretty much any current wrestler. So calm down kiddo. Your wild assertions about me - a man you know zero about, speak to your histrionic nature and terrible judgment. Life will be tough for you.
Not making any big stars & 50/50 booking is going to be the downfall of wrestling. That's why you build multiple stars, in case someone leaves or whatever. Its simple really!
Im sorry but Roman was hated and i believe the only reason he got over was the fact he came out and said he had leukemia. After that people felt sorry for him and cheer him. The bloodline story helped out some. The reason I say this is bc i suffer from leukemia and people that never liked me are now like oh hey buddy.
Hogan's Promo at the Republican national convention. was better than any promo Roman has ever cut. In you guys opinion what makes Roman so special? Besides his look. Seriously, Absolutely no shade to the guy.
The only thing I’ve been thinking with Bronson Reed since his attack on Rollins is, why is this guy having competitive matches? He should be destroying his opponents etc.. not going back and fourth.
EC3 sitting there goin hey im bigger than the company 👀 I should of waited to watch whole clip to comment cause EC3 has already did majority of those accomplishments 😂
Hogan went Jan. ‘84 - Feb. ‘88, Hogan era was more iconic, going to Japan and all, Roman has no comparison to Ric Flair territorial travels and title defenses, overall Cena and Roman can’t compare to that because they came in an era where the business was no longer an alliance defending your title in different regions against talent you are not familiar with 💯
Don’t forget, Hogan worked over 400 days a year too. That makes his 4 year run really 8 years because he’s on Japanese time where they get an extra 6 hours a day.
@DWtechfan is that meant to be funny? During the 80s there were lots of matinee shows. So, WWF wrestlers could easily work 400 shows in one year. Reigns defended his title less than 30 times in his reign.
Hogan is up there with Coca Cola Mickey Mouse Michael Jordan ali . He is the sport he is a a brand. People say Ric Flair is the greatest but that’s the mark answer.
Bro there booking sami like that because they don't want him going to AEW if you ever notice a former Indy darling getting a semi big push it's because WWE want them to stay for example look at KO and Sami involved with the bloodline all those years and KO now challenging for the WWE title
I'm also sick of seeing guys like Karrion Kross,DIY on tv like Triple H needs to realize these guys ain't getting over lol there a total waste of company money get those guys out of WWE already
Triple H is NOT a genius and NOT a good judge of talents. He didn’t use a freak of nature like Bobby Lashley but El Generico and Kevin Steen have a push and job for life. He doesn’t use half his roster right but he continues to push people like those two fruity male model guys on Smackdown, DIY, or Bronson Reed who will never amount to anything. Look at their women’s division, all look like dudes and there isn’t one hot woman on the roster. The Triple H era= a sausage fest which is just how The Gayme likes it.
@@yellowsnowman9157 he wasn’t great on promos but his in ring work was good for a guy his size. He certainly was no worse than either of DIY on promos. But, those are Triple H guys and he got rid of Lashley just because he was a McMahon guy. That proves Triple H is no better than McMahon who released most of Triple H’s talents
Even Roman is nowhere near the status of previous greats. Cena, Hogan, Austin, Rock even Bret all did Hollywood movies or tv shows. No one in Hollywood is knocking on the wwe door for Roman. So his stock isn’t as big as one would think. The WWE just doesn’t want wrestlers using their platform to just leave for other entertainment platforms. So that’s why HHH said what he said it wasn’t that Ryback or others weren’t capable of headlining it’s just they won’t let them get so big that they become bigger than the business.
EC3 is right about that card. i saw it yesterday. i may go!! i wanted to try out at OVW i heard thats how jade got in AEW. going there doing the program with Al Snow. the veteran who runs it from OHIO in kentucky. nash is gonna be down there so i may go
He was pinned clean by Sami at WrestleMania. He didn't actually beat Orton at KOTR. He was getting destroyed by Priest at SummerSlam, until Finn Balor(!) interfered so Gunther could win.
Man, no one should be bigger than the business, that's how you get divas like Hogan who will actively harm the business for his own profit and when he retires, leaves the business high and dry. Give space to everyone, then you can create plenty of stars who will make the business itself bigger. Roman is the best example, I don't recall many champions that helped to make as many stars as Roman.
@@darknessandlife777 Just because someone was good for business doesn't moean they always did what was good for the business, you see the difference? Not putting people over, actively burying guys and even scabbing, I don't like to indulge in what ifs, but one of the mistakes Vince did was to think he only needed one star, he needs more than that if he wants to expand a business. Besides, are you saying he carried the industry during the attitude era? Thats's absurd.
@alquimistaZ2 There isn't an Attitude Era without Hollywood Hogan. It was built off his back. That's pure facts. Now, onto the other myths promulgated, Hogan pit over more guys than any other top guy not named Flair, didn't bury anyone and in fact used his abilities and star power to help The Giant, DDP, Goldberg, Bobby Heenan, Mean Gene, Randy Savage etc. Look I get it, this is the internet where marks run with whatever bullshit narratives Dave Meltzer has put out ovr the years and a lot of guys also run with it because they know it will get views. The facts, however, run contrary to that narrative.
3:47 thats because they went through Romans ups and downs and finally got invested they KNOW him and his story and they hate that Pretender Solo Sokoa and His Temu Bloodline
Are you kidding, Dr. Chris? The reason they have had ratings in their toilet for this long and had such problem makng guys has been because they DID NOT play to the house and did not listen to the fans. They got one who got over organically like Danielson and Vince told him point blank after his Mania win that it did not matter, he wasn't in the plans. Austin got over cause back then Vince and wrestling as a whole were not at war with what the fans wanted. Sure Roman may be over now but did you forget about the times he stunk up the joints? Oh Roman is a popular babyface since his return they must have been right! lol How much freaking times they have invested in the guy for freaking nothing? And how much time has he left in wrestling? One or two years at most? But no wrestling fans must be wrong as usualy for Doc.
It’s fake everyone who grew up watching wwe well most of us went to ufc even the younger kids kinda like ufc more than wwe nobody wants to watch a bunch a grown ass men fake fight 😂😭
Anybody who thinks roman is bigger then hogan was during his prime, is absolutely insane 😂 roman not even bigger then randy orton 😂🤣
Absolutely! Not Even the same stratosphere. Besides him having a good look I don't get it.
Roman obviously wasn’t a bigger champion than Hogan, but Roman is definitely a big star. People only started hating him because dirt sheets in 2015 kept saying that Vince wanted Roman to be a big star.
Plus, at the 2015 Rumble, they wanted Bryan to win.
@@blackjack23ableyour comments be on point !
Roman is not in the same league as Hogan, Warrior, Macho Man, Rock and Stone Cold.
You can tell wwe is pushing Roman to be a star, but he is missing that "it" factor.
Damien Priest has a more "it" factor than Roman.
They just need to book Damien correctly.
Ahahaha that's crazy 😂😂😂😅😅
What am I missing with Roman? Yes the guy has a great look but I don't see him on a level of Hogan, Austin, Rock...not even Cena.
to test how mainstream a star is simply go to some non western places like maybe columbia or sudan or some town in india and ask who chad gable and bianca belair is....99% chance no one will heard of them names...im sure they know hogan or rock...
That’s like with Solo Sikoa. He was booked strong when he arrived on the main roster, defeated John Cena in convincing fashion then went on to lose 40 straight matches. How can he perceived as a credible threat?
Solo Sika doesn't draw a dime
@@benjaminnathan7464
Like his dad ,he has an adorable face .
@@benjaminnathan7464 Jacob will be taking his spot in the near future. Just watch.
I laughed when Solo told Jimmy Uso that wins matter before kicking him out of the Bloodline. He lost 40 matches so he should be spiking himself
I'm sorry but what WWE is doing now is elevating. Everybody knows wrestling fake and the reason Bronson is over is because we the fans love brutality that's what WWE is missing
I like what they are doing with Bronson but he doesn't need to do 6 splashes when attacking stars. 3 is enough.
Bronson isn't over. He gets crickets in his entrance. He's in a temp feud so Rollins has somebody to face and then he'll drop right back down the card. It happens all the time.
Bronson isn't doing anything Gunther, Breakker, and Jacob Fatu aren't already.
TV shows are fake. Should they completely ruin their own logic by having something stupid happen? Bronson isn’t really getting over. It’s just a typical beat down we’ve seen already with Shinsuke.
If they have Bronson actually defeat Seth, I’ll be surprised.
Wwe sucks n has done for a decade
I was always disappointed ec3 never made it to main in wwe great character
Vince didn't want him to succeed 😢
Imagine using Ryback the internet troll as a source of information.
Imagine thinking Ryback of all people is "the internet troll".
@@danielburger1775Ryback is an internet troll.
@@datacipher He's not.
What triggers people like you is that he speaks openly and honestly.
He has told truths about your internet darlings, and you don't want to accept those facts, even though you know them to be true.
@@danielburger1775 lol. First… I don’t know who internet darlings is supposed to be. I’ve never seen Ryback wrestle. I’ve never seen cm punk wrestle. I’ve seen 2 aew matches and no wwe matches since around 2005. All I know about Ryback is that he said he’d quit if cm punk went to wwe, post food porn vids, and has said other thighs that turned out to be lies. And I know he’s doing that for attention - to the to build a following lol. That’s called… trolling. Otherwise, I couldn’t care less about him, or.. pretty much any current wrestler. So calm down kiddo. Your wild assertions about me - a man you know zero about, speak to your histrionic nature and terrible judgment. Life will be tough for you.
It's crazy how the past 2 years, every single ppv main event is 1000000000000% predictable 😂
Big Bronson reed is the new big e according to how he is book tap in !!!
True, unfortunately. It's unwatchable.
Not making any big stars & 50/50 booking is going to be the downfall of wrestling. That's why you build multiple stars, in case someone leaves or whatever. Its simple really!
Im sorry but Roman was hated and i believe the only reason he got over was the fact he came out and said he had leukemia. After that people felt sorry for him and cheer him. The bloodline story helped out some. The reason I say this is bc i suffer from leukemia and people that never liked me are now like oh hey buddy.
Hogan's Promo at the Republican national convention. was better than any promo Roman has ever cut. In you guys opinion what makes Roman so special? Besides his look. Seriously, Absolutely no shade to the guy.
he looks like a star and his promos are quite good...
The only thing I’ve been thinking with Bronson Reed since his attack on Rollins is, why is this guy having competitive matches?
He should be destroying his opponents etc.. not going back and fourth.
Ec3 does not add anything to the program
He smoked a cig live on air one episode
Been saying that for ages. But where is EC 1&2?
He adds more than you.
They seem to hate AEW for no reason ? Their WWE Mark's !
Too bad he adds more than you. Blair davenport.
EC3 sitting there goin hey im bigger than the company 👀
I should of waited to watch whole clip to comment cause EC3 has already did majority of those accomplishments 😂
Hogan went Jan. ‘84 - Feb. ‘88, Hogan era was more iconic, going to Japan and all, Roman has no comparison to Ric Flair territorial travels and title defenses, overall Cena and Roman can’t compare to that because they came in an era where the business was no longer an alliance defending your title in different regions against talent you are not familiar with 💯
Don’t forget, Hogan worked over 400 days a year too. That makes his 4 year run really 8 years because he’s on Japanese time where they get an extra 6 hours a day.
@DWtechfan is that meant to be funny?
During the 80s there were lots of matinee shows. So, WWF wrestlers could easily work 400 shows in one year.
Reigns defended his title less than 30 times in his reign.
💯
Hogan is up there with Coca Cola Mickey Mouse Michael Jordan ali . He is the sport he is a a brand. People say Ric Flair is the greatest but that’s the mark answer.
Bron losing to Sami.
Gunther losing to Sami.
Priest losing to Sami.
It's a rib, at this point.
Ha.
Bro there booking sami like that because they don't want him going to AEW
if you ever notice a former Indy darling getting a semi big push it's because WWE want them to stay
for example look at KO and Sami involved with the bloodline all those years
and KO now challenging for the WWE title
I'm also sick of seeing
guys like Karrion Kross,DIY
on tv
like Triple H needs to realize these guys ain't getting over lol there a total waste of company money
get those guys out of WWE already
@@Jesse_Saucedo I'm pretty sure Sami already signed long term extension. Same with Owens. It's a rib.
Ha.
@@Jesse_Saucedo well, jobbers have a role too.
Ha.
RYBACK would have been the longest 🏆🏆WWE CHAMPION 🏆🏆in history if they would pushed him 🔥🔥🔥FEED ME MORE!!!🔥🔥🔥
Ec3 looks like he’s filming in his closet😊😊
Triple H is NOT a genius and NOT a good judge of talents. He didn’t use a freak of nature like Bobby Lashley but El Generico and Kevin Steen have a push and job for life. He doesn’t use half his roster right but he continues to push people like those two fruity male model guys on Smackdown, DIY, or Bronson Reed who will never amount to anything. Look at their women’s division, all look like dudes and there isn’t one hot woman on the roster. The Triple H era= a sausage fest which is just how The Gayme likes it.
Because Bobby Lashley absolutely sucks. Horrible promo and in ring work
Why use Bobby if there is a better and younger version in Bron Breakker
Bobby always bored me great look that's it
@@yellowsnowman9157 he wasn’t great on promos but his in ring work was good for a guy his size. He certainly was no worse than either of DIY on promos. But, those are Triple H guys and he got rid of Lashley just because he was a McMahon guy. That proves Triple H is no better than McMahon who released most of Triple H’s talents
Yall didnt like the Hurt Business? Lashley wasnt booked right. ..HHH has same fueds all year long.
Bronson Reed is a heavy that thinks he's a luchadore.
It makes the luchadore's look bad when 350lbs dudes doing same thing as 160lb dudes.
I like Ryback he's always told it like it is , I'd like to see him in AEW .
EC3 high as hell boi 😅
That cocaine
Or really sleep deprived
People forget it was only a year ago that LA knight crushed Reigns on the mic and sat at the head of the table
Triple HHH Tell Talent Same thing Not Say anything CM PUNK Bring No Value Business Professional Wrestling
Ec3 needs sleep
lol
HHH allegedly made that comment nearly 10 years ago when Vince McMahon was in charge. Vince isn't in charge anymore and things can/must change.
Ryback is so funny
Even Roman is nowhere near the status of previous greats. Cena, Hogan, Austin, Rock even Bret all did Hollywood movies or tv shows. No one in Hollywood is knocking on the wwe door for Roman. So his stock isn’t as big as one would think. The WWE just doesn’t want wrestlers using their platform to just leave for other entertainment platforms. So that’s why HHH said what he said it wasn’t that Ryback or others weren’t capable of headlining it’s just they won’t let them get so big that they become bigger than the business.
Ec3 is an underrated wrestler that was in WWE at the wrong time
EC3 is right about that card. i saw it yesterday. i may go!! i wanted to try out at OVW i heard thats how jade got in AEW. going there doing the program with Al Snow. the veteran who runs it from OHIO in kentucky. nash is gonna be down there so i may go
Like Edge & Randy Orton strong heels became strong faces
Hulkamania is running wild
Gunther seems to be on the above trajectory he rarely looses.
He was pinned clean by Sami at WrestleMania.
He didn't actually beat Orton at KOTR.
He was getting destroyed by Priest at SummerSlam, until Finn Balor(!) interfered so Gunther could win.
Ec3 kills me. This guy is the most insignificant wrestler in the world. Keep taking your rounds buddy! You’re the champ!! lol what a joke!!
Your post screams “im 5’4” and 130 pounds and guys like ec3 used to stuff me in lockers and get all the girls”
@@Daniel_Capital your post screams like I’m an idiot who still lives at home with his mother. Dope!!
Ryback was a good character and a hard worker better than bill goldberg in ring facts 😅😢
NO WAY ON EARTH WOULD I WILLINGLY DESTROY MY NEWERISH BIKE 🤔🤷♂️🤨HMM..!!??
It should be dr Chris and Vince Russo
Look what they did to LA knight-most over dude in the biz-did it all by himself
Personally I loved ryback no cap 😂
Hogan ripping Andres chain off LMAO.
Roman Reigns is definitely bigger than the company
Ec3 Nose 👃 is bigger than the company lol 😂
The promo for the EC3 match at the end was almost the best part of the entire show and it was a great show
Hey i didnt know eddie geurrero came back but why is he talking in american accent?
Man, no one should be bigger than the business, that's how you get divas like Hogan who will actively harm the business for his own profit and when he retires, leaves the business high and dry. Give space to everyone, then you can create plenty of stars who will make the business itself bigger. Roman is the best example, I don't recall many champions that helped to make as many stars as Roman.
Yeah, Hogan really harmed the business by carrying it through its only two boom periods.
Hogan Derangement Syndrome strikes again.
@@darknessandlife777 Just because someone was good for business doesn't moean they always did what was good for the business, you see the difference? Not putting people over, actively burying guys and even scabbing, I don't like to indulge in what ifs, but one of the mistakes Vince did was to think he only needed one star, he needs more than that if he wants to expand a business. Besides, are you saying he carried the industry during the attitude era? Thats's absurd.
@alquimistaZ2 There isn't an Attitude Era without Hollywood Hogan. It was built off his back. That's pure facts.
Now, onto the other myths promulgated, Hogan pit over more guys than any other top guy not named Flair, didn't bury anyone and in fact used his abilities and star power to help The Giant, DDP, Goldberg, Bobby Heenan, Mean Gene, Randy Savage etc.
Look I get it, this is the internet where marks run with whatever bullshit narratives Dave Meltzer has put out ovr the years and a lot of guys also run with it because they know it will get views. The facts, however, run contrary to that narrative.
Is ec3 in a dungeon??
Vince is full of shxt. WCW had so many mfs not selling and weirdo shxt happening.
3:47 thats because they went through Romans ups and downs and finally got invested they KNOW him and his story and they hate that Pretender Solo Sokoa and His Temu Bloodline
Facts fan fair wrestling isn’t good tv ppl really don’t kno what they want frl
It’s would’ve been cool to see bron get that bill Goldberg treatment but in this climate that would’ve made him feel forced an nobody likes that frl
What is a casual fan ????? Who is gonna pander to people who aren’t gonna watch the show anyway ????
EC3 is a cool cat but he got a Toucan Sam nose-damn that’s a schnoz
Are you kidding, Dr. Chris? The reason they have had ratings in their toilet for this long and had such problem makng guys has been because they DID NOT play to the house and did not listen to the fans. They got one who got over organically like Danielson and Vince told him point blank after his Mania win that it did not matter, he wasn't in the plans. Austin got over cause back then Vince and wrestling as a whole were not at war with what the fans wanted. Sure Roman may be over now but did you forget about the times he stunk up the joints? Oh Roman is a popular babyface since his return they must have been right! lol How much freaking times they have invested in the guy for freaking nothing? And how much time has he left in wrestling? One or two years at most? But no wrestling fans must be wrong as usualy for Doc.
Wwe is making more money than ever, cope
Nobody cares what you think Chris!🤐
Triple H did what vince failed to do. Make vans want roman.
Down by the river?
vince created the tribal chief.....
Rybacks honest? Hahaha
It’s fake everyone who grew up watching wwe well most of us went to ufc even the younger kids kinda like ufc more than wwe nobody wants to watch a bunch a grown ass men fake fight 😂😭
I loved it I know it's not logical but I don't care anyway
This by far the worst podcast ever.
bro bro bro
I like the videos but Vince is annoying bro calm down
Bro bro bro
Ryback is terrible.
EC3 Sucks... But if he was talented he'd be on Raw right now instead of this wrestling podcast.
Vince is dumb
Bro bro bro for real bro cmon bro but bro bro bro bro whattup bro hey bro dude bro
Bro.......
I cannot with a 60 year old man saying bro 1000 times in less than 15 min
Bullshit.
Ryback is a f****** joke