Will new UK voter ID rules make it harder to vote? - BBC News

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  • Опубликовано: 19 апр 2023
  • People will need to show photo ID before being allowed to vote in England’s local elections on 4 May, and at any future UK general election.
    The government says the new rules will help prevent voter fraud but critics claim the changes will make it harder for some to vote.
    Ros Atkins explains.
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Комментарии • 579

  • @evilduck1000
    @evilduck1000 Год назад +22

    It makes sense. I was honestly baffled the first time I went to vote, and found that I didn't need photo ID. That being said, efforts need to be made to lower the cost of getting photo ID.

  • @TruthTeller977
    @TruthTeller977 Год назад +8

    I just voted today. On top of the voter suppression by the back door with the photo ID requirement, the Tories have a number on the back of your voting slip tied to your name & address on their lists so your vote is NOT confidential. They say it's nationwide. I hope they get voted out.

    • @daimsaeed
      @daimsaeed 11 месяцев назад

      How does that work??

  • @HowNoNow
    @HowNoNow Год назад +24

    If I, as a risk management professional in industry, proposed a solution so disproportionate to the risk faced as this, it would be laughed out before even reaching a memo.

    • @Mark-kh1ny
      @Mark-kh1ny Год назад

      A: Convictions is a poor measure of how much of a problem it is. How do you know it’s not rife and people just aren’t getting caught?
      B: Being proactive instead of reactive is a much better approach.
      A risk, as I’m sure you’re aware, is the risk that something ‘might happen’, otherwise it would be an issue.
      So surly you’re not using number of convictions as a measure of probability?

    • @tedtedtedtedted
      @tedtedtedtedted Год назад

      'absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence' (carl sagen)
      but you don't have to be a world renowned astronomer to understand that, just a bit of common sense will do ?

    • @HowNoNow
      @HowNoNow Год назад +2

      @@Mark-kh1ny I'm not talking about the absence of risk, I'm talking about the proportionality of risk response. There was nothing mentioned there to suggest a whole scale change in procedure plus potential disenfranchisement of voters is needed.

    • @Hannodb1961
      @Hannodb1961 Год назад

      Yeah. Sure. Because who would have any interest in rigging elections or cheating. Requiring photo ID for electiins is _common sense_ and if you, as a _risk manager_ of all things, thought it is disproportionate, I'd have you fired for gross incompetence. Good grief, hearing this makes me glad I live in South Africa. Our electoral system seems to be lightyears more advanced than that of the UK and US.

  • @Pou1gie1
    @Pou1gie1 Год назад +7

    As a US citizen, this feels familiar

  • @whiskysam2036
    @whiskysam2036 Год назад +3

    I haven't voted since 2010 and i don't have a photo ID

  • @vjab1108
    @vjab1108 Год назад +6

    It is the Postal Votes that need looking in to.

    • @rajooananth4719
      @rajooananth4719 Год назад

      mostly rigged by schemers

    • @melgrant7404
      @melgrant7404 Месяц назад +1

      If you don't need id to post a vote how do they know who posted it.

  • @gdewyg
    @gdewyg Год назад +54

    Our authorities are quick to make decisions and slow to listen to people's grievances. Such selfishness

    • @YorkshireSpud
      @YorkshireSpud Год назад

      You'll find the people elected to "represent" us are actually just representing themselves

    • @user-ji3zl4vd9b
      @user-ji3zl4vd9b Год назад

      India has mandatory voter id ans well as electronic voting machines, that in itself is an indication, that the UK should not be doing it..
      Also, they had digital covid vaccine certificates..yikes..the UK should definitely not do any of it..

    • @jakemorj5498
      @jakemorj5498 Год назад +3

      ID should be necessary. People often use other people’s vote when they are away on holiday.

    • @luminousfractal420
      @luminousfractal420 Год назад +1

      Do The farmers listen to what the cows are talking about?
      Theyre eugenicists. They dont think you or i are relevant in any way other than being in their way.

    • @luminousfractal420
      @luminousfractal420 Год назад

      ​@@jakemorj5498 oh dont start that maga shite here

  • @harmony3138
    @harmony3138 Год назад +11

    Tories gerrymandering!

    • @Bungle-UK
      @Bungle-UK Год назад +1

      How? Anyone who has the right to vote can get access to the free ID scheme.

    • @user-ji3zl4vd9b
      @user-ji3zl4vd9b Год назад

      India has mandatory voter id ans well as electronic voting machines, that in itself is an indication, that the UK should not be doing it..
      Also, they had digital covid vaccine certificates..yikes..the UK should definitely not do any of it..

    • @andrewharrington6953
      @andrewharrington6953 Год назад

      Labour voters too lazy to apply for the free voter ID

  • @paulsamson6039
    @paulsamson6039 Год назад +5

    It doesn't matter to me I can't think of anyone worth voting for.

  • @realhawaii5o
    @realhawaii5o Год назад +19

    Wait... You didn't need to bring your ID previously?
    lol
    I can't imagine voting WITHOUT my ID.

    • @juice6521
      @juice6521 Год назад

      You had to register to vote prior, and that was all you needed. It's worked fine for decades. Voter fraud in the West is basically non-existent because it's way too easy to get caught for very little payoff. FpTP makes it even more difficult to sway an election with such small scale discrepancies.

    • @adrianthoroughgood1191
      @adrianthoroughgood1191 Год назад +2

      You need to be registered in advance and give your name and address when you vote and they match you against the list. It's a crime to impersonate someone so that deters people from trying it. A lot of people in the UK don't have any photo ID. 2 million out 62 million.

    • @realhawaii5o
      @realhawaii5o Год назад +5

      @@adrianthoroughgood1191 But getting someone's name and address is really easy...
      It jus seems like it would be safer for everyone if the government issued IDs for every citizen.

    • @adrianthoroughgood1191
      @adrianthoroughgood1191 Год назад

      @@realhawaii5o the previous government tried to introduce ID cards but the party that is now the government objected to that because people freaked out and thought the country would turn into na*i Germany with police checking people's ID all the time. Now that party is demanding we present ID to vote. It's all a bit silly. I would support introducing standardised ID cards as long as they are either free or cheap to the citizen. It would make a lot of things simpler if everyone had a card to prove who they were that would be accepted for everything. Our passports are very expensive at about £100 so people don't get one unless they actually travel abroad and people who do have one don't use it for other things in case they lost it.

    • @Mizzkan
      @Mizzkan Год назад +1

      @@realhawaii5o Are you that stupid ?? Genuine question. Do you actually think the Government should issue ID cards. Damn some people are so thick.

  • @creamyj3888
    @creamyj3888 Год назад +11

    Only way tories can win.

    • @andrewharrington6953
      @andrewharrington6953 Год назад

      That Keer Starmer. Get a new Labour leader with actual ideas and plans and they will win

    • @bbcisaids6727
      @bbcisaids6727 Год назад +2

      Liebour have klaus schwab..globohomo

    • @creamyj3888
      @creamyj3888 Год назад

      @Andrew Harrington I mean I don't disagree with you... unfortunately Labour is the lesser of two evils. I think its clear the tories need to go though.

  • @conconmc
    @conconmc Год назад +13

    Trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist, voter fraud isn't an issue. A big issue is voter suppression and low voter turn out. Holding elections on weekdays (they should be on weekends), asking for ID etc will just reduce the amount of people involved in the democratic process which is worse for everyone.

    • @johnheppell402
      @johnheppell402 Год назад +1

      Voter fraud is rampant in the UK.

    • @michaeldent1684
      @michaeldent1684 Год назад +3

      Sadiq khans a mayor of london, i don’t think thats legit

    • @TheDangoNinja
      @TheDangoNinja Год назад +4

      What suppression? Being asked to identify yourself for an election? Im 25, ive been voting since i was 18. I rarely miss a voting chance and the only one i did, was when i was in France during Brexit and i hadnt realised the two dates clashed and didnt do a postal vote. I have never been suppressed, polling station is always local and always available.

    • @jimsim8736
      @jimsim8736 Год назад +2

      Doesn’t exist? How do you know that? The system is so open and flawed.
      I have a family member that gets details from other family members (of similar age) then goes to various voting booths and votes SNP with their details.
      If you don’t think having the most secure voting system possible is a must there’s something wrong with you.
      I’d go as far as to say you’re a disgruntled Labour supporter parroting decades of disproven lies about voter ID.

    • @stigmontgomery7901
      @stigmontgomery7901 Год назад

      What voter suppression. You've been listening to too many leftie sites.

  • @geoffbirchall7552
    @geoffbirchall7552 Год назад +6

    Couldn’t care less, won’t vote as all as corrupt as one another!

  • @giglioflex
    @giglioflex Год назад +19

    So let's get this straight, there a 2 million people without eligible IDs and single digit voter fraud convictions. In no words does that scream for the need for voter ID.
    In addition, why do people have to register for these IDs? If the government is going to do a program like this, it better damn well make sure it's automatically issuing IDs to every eligible voter. There's no excuse not to other than for incumbent political parties to gain further influence over the election system.

  • @stephenmurphy2212
    @stephenmurphy2212 Год назад +31

    In the Republic of Ireland, we have to bring photo ID when we vote in elections or referendums. I generally bring my passport when I head to the polling station. I still don’t see what the problem is here. 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @kiragoe
      @kiragoe Год назад +14

      Many don't have passports and they cost around over £80 to get which many cannot afford in the cost of living crisis right now.

    • @ElonHusky
      @ElonHusky Год назад +6

      Nothing brits being brits, Always complaining No other problem

    • @BigMrFirebird
      @BigMrFirebird Год назад +10

      The problem is, we never used to have to produce ID. So why do we have to now? What's changed?

    • @CriticalTheoryIsNonsense
      @CriticalTheoryIsNonsense Год назад +2

      ​@@kiragoe Free photo ID can be applied for.

    • @kiragoe
      @kiragoe Год назад +3

      @@CriticalTheoryIsNonsense The deadline is 5pm on Tuesday 25 April for the 'Voter Authority Certificate.' 5 days to get the free voter ID to vote in the May ellections, most people have only just been told about it now on the news that you need ID and most won't hear about it until after the 25th.

  • @janetkamal1421
    @janetkamal1421 Год назад +10

    It’s a gateway to everyone having ID.

    • @jsbart96
      @jsbart96 Год назад

      most people already have an ID you dunce

    • @adrianthoroughgood1191
      @adrianthoroughgood1191 Год назад

      59M out of 62M already have ID. Whats your point.

    • @janetkamal1421
      @janetkamal1421 Год назад +1

      @@adrianthoroughgood1191 . 👈🏼 Right there. What’s your problem? You must have plenty of them when you feel the need to be so rude to someone you don’t even know. Thank you for your statistics though, I’ll probably sleep better tonight.!

    • @adrianthoroughgood1191
      @adrianthoroughgood1191 Год назад

      @@janetkamal1421 I wasn't being rude. I just asked what your issue with people having ID was?

    • @annalieff-saxby568
      @annalieff-saxby568 Год назад

      ​@@janetkamal1421 If you think that was "being rude" you must be extremely thin skinned.

  • @goodtobecaring4035
    @goodtobecaring4035 8 месяцев назад

    Not much information being sent out on this to citizens

  • @richard7645
    @richard7645 Год назад +2

    The more they talk the worse it gets

  • @RobizGaming2024
    @RobizGaming2024 6 месяцев назад +1

    They need to change the rules on non uk nationals on voting. The fact that a person like me has been living in the uk since the age of 4 (now 38), attended all the schools, pay taxes and have a family and still cannot vote, is a joke.

  • @janetkamal1421
    @janetkamal1421 Год назад +5

    Can I vote if I sing Happy Birthday twice and clap on the step?

  • @johnheppell402
    @johnheppell402 Год назад +8

    A late but most sensible move. Next we must remove the opportunity for voter harvesting by stopping voting by post except in cases of Government Service overseas. It is essential that individuals get to vote without pressure from community leaders or family member bullying.

  • @caramida9
    @caramida9 Год назад +2

    We have this in Romania. The difference is that it's a national ID card that's mandatory and issued to everyone 14+ . If voter ID is to be enforced, this should be the way to implement it, to prevent people who are younger or poorer from not being able to vote by not having the proper ID.

  • @TheDanno34
    @TheDanno34 Год назад +16

    Before my polling card was sent through the post i was sent a letter informing me i would need id to vote. Everyone who wants to vote but has no form of suitable id has had plenty of time to get their act together

    • @kiragoe
      @kiragoe Год назад +12

      Passports are over £80-£90 for those who don't have them alot of poorer people cannot afford to spend that much just to vote, especially in these times with the cost of living crisis. And many people don't drive. I know so many people who do not have a passport who can barely afford to pay for food and bills right now nethermind a buy a passport. Usually it's people who have never been abroad, I myself haven't been abroad outside the UK in over ten years.

    • @j7ech402
      @j7ech402 Год назад +4

      ​@@kiragoe Rubbish

    • @CriticalTheoryIsNonsense
      @CriticalTheoryIsNonsense Год назад +3

      ​@@kiragoe Free photo ID can be applied for.

    • @josh77577
      @josh77577 Год назад +1

      @@kiragoe In canada this is already the place to vote. Shouldnt u have photo ID on ur UK health card for example?

    • @jordandavies7794
      @jordandavies7794 Год назад

      bbc showing its biased again time after time 99% of young people have ID whats the issue ? im a young conservative no sillver spoon. most young people dont have free bus passes and thats your only critisism ? sounds like a hit piece. stop acting like babies grow up and get some documentation your an adult now mate. the labour party are jokers and are a default vote for any idiot wanting change.

  • @languageswilkes3765
    @languageswilkes3765 Месяц назад

    As an adult, if you can’t even provide photo identification to vote then there’s something wrong with you.

  • @book2316
    @book2316 Год назад +2

    No both side rig elections! Lower turnout favours the conservative party and mail ballots favour the labour party. It's a big game!

    • @BigMrFirebird
      @BigMrFirebird Год назад +2

      Since both parties attend the WEF conferences at Davos, I have to agree with you.

  • @samuelfawdry6411
    @samuelfawdry6411 19 дней назад

    Everyone has either a pass port, driver license, college ID, 18 plus ID card etc

  • @jimdon5409
    @jimdon5409 2 месяца назад

    Easier to monitor how you vote!

  • @abdullahnduka5830
    @abdullahnduka5830 Год назад

    Why report now? Why not all year?

  • @janiekcarney5482
    @janiekcarney5482 Год назад +6

    Why haven’t ID been required decades ago. Give them free photo voter IDs.

    • @asmith9140
      @asmith9140 Год назад +1

      because its o ne stage nearer state control

  • @colinwishbone4437
    @colinwishbone4437 Год назад

    Not for those who are legitimate voters,

  • @_Ai_Angel
    @_Ai_Angel Год назад +1

    People can always do a postal vote that literally comes to your door that is actually the most lazy solution but you probably still need ID for that Most people do have ID

  • @_Ai_Angel
    @_Ai_Angel Год назад

    I still think we need some sort of online vote with bank level security

  • @truenorthjess
    @truenorthjess Год назад +4

    Canada is very different. In Canada everyone is issued a government ID in the form of a health card. There are also options for people without ID such as bank statements or prescription bottles. And as a last resort someone else who is registered can sign a legal declaration to vouch for your identity.

  • @realhawaii5o
    @realhawaii5o Год назад +2

    Why doesn't every citizen get a national ID? You can call it... National ID card....

    • @mildlydispleased3221
      @mildlydispleased3221 Год назад

      Blair tried to do this and it backfired. We shouldn't need ID to vote.

  • @thundercatt5265
    @thundercatt5265 Год назад

    We seem to have the same problem UK

  • @boris8787
    @boris8787 Год назад +1

    LOL - nobody votes in the honest town of Chillingbourne. ⛔⛔⛔

  • @Ephebo-ds9nq
    @Ephebo-ds9nq 9 месяцев назад +1

    i dont drive and not likely to travel. i have autism. so im not voting . thanks for the prejudice

  • @billsykes5392
    @billsykes5392 Год назад +1

    Normalised over the long term I suppose it makes sense, however most of the young don’t engage with traditional media (which is more likely to report on the voter ID requirement) to the same extent as over 65s and don’t have the same amount of free time as over 65s due to work commitments. Therefore the likelihood younger voters are aware of the voter ID requirement is less than over 65s, which is likely to skew the vote in the Tory’s favour.

    • @TheDangoNinja
      @TheDangoNinja Год назад

      most over 65's have an acceptable form of Photo ID and im pretty sure, everyone got it in the post, every news paper and someone has talked about it.

  • @stocko5448
    @stocko5448 Год назад +3

    people who have something to hide are one`s complaining.

    • @maalikserebryakov
      @maalikserebryakov Год назад

      @@BigMrFirebirdWHAT ARE YOU HIDING?!! HMMMM

    • @user-ji3zl4vd9b
      @user-ji3zl4vd9b Год назад

      India has mandatory voter id ans well as electronic voting machines, that in itself is an indication, that the UK should not be doing it..
      Also, they had digital covid vaccine certificates..yikes..the UK should definitely not do any of it..

    • @BigMrFirebird
      @BigMrFirebird Год назад +1

      @@maalikserebryakov In your case, the Caps Off button.

    • @andrewharrington6953
      @andrewharrington6953 Год назад

      People too lazt to get their free voter id are the ones complaining

  • @BigMrFirebird
    @BigMrFirebird Год назад +11

    This smacks of a similar tactic used by the Republican Party in the USA. q) Why do folks need ID to vote? a) To prevent voter fraud. q) Can you show the examples of voter fraud that has caused this to happen? a) Er, no. q) So what's this really about, then? a) "Papers please...." All about control, as usual.

    • @RealOGfikey
      @RealOGfikey Год назад +3

      Exactly.

    • @maalikserebryakov
      @maalikserebryakov Год назад

      Boe Jiden won by electoral fraud

    • @user-ji3zl4vd9b
      @user-ji3zl4vd9b Год назад

      India has mandatory voter id ans well as electronic voting machines, that in itself is an indication, that the UK should not be doing it..
      Also, they had digital covid vaccine certificates..yikes..the UK should definitely not do any of it..

    • @thomashong2938
      @thomashong2938 Год назад

      @@maalikserebryakov What about Vlad the Impaler in Moscow?

  • @jaaksavat7916
    @jaaksavat7916 Год назад +9

    How hard is it for a computer to know when someone is old enough, or simply eligible to vote?

    • @luminousfractal420
      @luminousfractal420 Год назад +1

      Depends if its a tory computer. The app tracing shows theyre not capable.
      Real world. Yup you tap the databanks. 2 second job.

    • @giglioflex
      @giglioflex Год назад +2

      Not that hard, facial recognition is everywhere nowadays. Requiring voter IDs, especially in this manner, is just a ploy to disadvantage certain groups. If they are gong to go through with the completely unnecessary step of requiring ID, the very least they could do is automatically mail an ID to all eligible voters.

    • @adrianthoroughgood1191
      @adrianthoroughgood1191 Год назад

      ​@@giglioflex how can they do that when they don't have photos of people on file? The whole point of this (assuming good faith) is so that people can't pretend to be someone else at the voting booth.

  • @melgrant7404
    @melgrant7404 Месяц назад

    If you dont need id to post a vote how do they know who posted it.

  • @markgoddard2560
    @markgoddard2560 Год назад +3

    Well I can’t vote for my candidate as I do not have photographic evidence. Stupid government.

  • @pogopolo
    @pogopolo Год назад +3

    IDs should have been required long ago.

  • @lewis571
    @lewis571 Год назад +1

    "Will new UK voter ID rules make it harder to vote" Stupidest title ever

  • @Krytern
    @Krytern Год назад

    I have subtitles on RUclips disabled so why are they being forced on me?

  • @geraldthomas8948
    @geraldthomas8948 Год назад +1

    May the forth be with you.

  • @puiacalinadrian
    @puiacalinadrian Год назад

    How the hell did you vote until now and still wished for a truly outcome?

  • @Dylanesque
    @Dylanesque Год назад

    Discrimination, pure and simple.

  • @Hannodb1961
    @Hannodb1961 Год назад

    Seriously? I was amazed when I heard this is an issue in the US, and now its the UK too? Flip, get over yourselves. In South Africa, with the largest inequality in the world, we require a photo ID to vote. If the rural people in the Transkai can have a photo ID to vote with, then there is no damn reason why it discriminates against anyone in a first world country.

  • @mrb.5610
    @mrb.5610 Год назад +5

    Fine - but only if the government hands out *free* photo id for those who want it.

    • @MG-eh6bx
      @MG-eh6bx Год назад

      Nothing is free, it is paid for with taxes. Got a phone, smoke, drink then got enough money to get the ID.

    • @CriticalTheoryIsNonsense
      @CriticalTheoryIsNonsense Год назад

      Free photo ID can be applied for.

    • @user-ji3zl4vd9b
      @user-ji3zl4vd9b Год назад

      India has mandatory voter id ans well as electronic voting machines, that in itself is an indication, that the UK should not be doing it..
      Also, they had digital covid vaccine
      certificates..yikes..the UK should definitely not do any of it..
      P.S yes they distributed it for free

    • @andrewharrington6953
      @andrewharrington6953 Год назад +1

      You obviously missed the part where they said you can apply for a free photo ID to vote

    • @mrb.5610
      @mrb.5610 Год назад

      @@andrewharrington6953I obviously did !
      Edit. Just to add - anyone else notice that we've all kinda accepted the idea of id cards without so much of a murmur whereas everyone was up in arms against them when they were suggested 15 odd years ago ? !

  • @marcothorsen950
    @marcothorsen950 2 месяца назад

    Not voting anymore..

  • @_Ai_Angel
    @_Ai_Angel Год назад

    The other political parties have got a duty to make sure people do get the ability to vote for their party not just complain about it if the government are not well informing people about the changes is The opposition's job to do so they need votes as well

  • @annapacyniak3940
    @annapacyniak3940 Год назад +3

    If that the case they should create an id cards!

    • @public.public
      @public.public Год назад

      No i.d. cards. We're not cattle.
      My i.d. was already known for my voting card to be posted to me.
      This whole thing is just another incidence of contracts for the friends of Tory MPs.

    • @andrewharrington6953
      @andrewharrington6953 Год назад +1

      Watch the video and they tell you about the free Voter ID card you can apply for

  • @maxasaurus3008
    @maxasaurus3008 Год назад +1

    You guys were allowed to vote without showing your ID?!?

  • @BigMrFirebird
    @BigMrFirebird Год назад

    "Election turnout is already very low for young people. Even perceived small barriers to voting will turn away apathetic voters, who are exactly the people that need to vote to see any significant change in the system". Unless, you're happy with the way the system's been running, of course......

  • @mwilliamson3989
    @mwilliamson3989 Год назад +5

    Oh no I hope those ID’s are free

  • @andrewp149
    @andrewp149 Год назад +1

    This video feels very pro the ID requirement. Very non impartial and poorly done from Ros.

  • @airdog1829
    @airdog1829 23 дня назад

    Many Tory voters are older and not so tech savvy. Stupid idea. 🤣

  • @howardneil8164
    @howardneil8164 Год назад +3

    Everyone should have a National insurance card , to be used when accessing the health service and can also be used for voter I’d and other things . It’s crazy that anyone can vote in Uk without any ID .

    • @ImCaptainCabbage
      @ImCaptainCabbage Год назад +1

      I haven’t got any ID, thus can not vote. My grandfather served in WW2 and was severely injured I don’t think he’d be happy that his grandson has had his right to vote taken away. This is a ridiculous and unfair law.

    • @jonmcay9659
      @jonmcay9659 Год назад

      @@ImCaptainCabbage how hard is it to get ID ?

    • @TheDangoNinja
      @TheDangoNinja Год назад

      @@ImCaptainCabbage If you havent got any ID, how do you;
      1. Get paid
      2. Get taxed
      3. Travel
      4. Live at an address
      5. pay for any goods
      6. live.

    • @adrianthoroughgood1191
      @adrianthoroughgood1191 Год назад

      @@TheDangoNinja my mum doesn't have any photo ID. She runs her own business and owns her house. When she got the mortgage a birth certificate would have sufficed for that. She never learned to drive. I signed her up for postal voting, so she wouldn't have to find someone to give her a lift to the polling.

    • @TheDangoNinja
      @TheDangoNinja Год назад

      @@adrianthoroughgood1191 so she can still claim one. She can use her NI number to apply for one. That'll get her everything she wants and the NI number relates to her

  • @Sofus.
    @Sofus. Год назад +1

    The average age of BBC One and BBC Two viewers is over 60

    • @vjab1108
      @vjab1108 Год назад

      What both of them?

  • @MalenkyGoblin
    @MalenkyGoblin Год назад +1

    Didn't Margret Thatcher support a poll tax and got thrown out for it? What's next, counting jelly beans in a jar?

    • @apocalypticweasel9078
      @apocalypticweasel9078 Год назад +1

      Depends how you see it the abolishment of the poll tax gave the public a minor win but they instantly increased vat from 15% to 17.5% to pick up the shortfall and then invented council tax to replace poll tax but they never decreased vat we are snookered any which way we turn although council tax was a fairer tax for services as it goes by property banding not by head count, so those living in big houses pay more than those living in flats.

  • @jimmyhackers8980
    @jimmyhackers8980 Год назад +7

    the big brother company hard at work here

    • @BigMrFirebird
      @BigMrFirebird Год назад

      Exactly.

    • @maalikserebryakov
      @maalikserebryakov Год назад

      Cringe
      This is what happens when low IQ people read orwell. They think every government policy no matter how sensible is intended to put them into a pod and turn the country into a dystopia.

  • @arcadealchemist
    @arcadealchemist Год назад +1

    Vote ID proving you are who you say you are.
    when this country has around 90 million people but only 66 are known about

  • @adrianosler1682
    @adrianosler1682 8 месяцев назад +1

    It wont make it hard for me not interested

  • @annalieff-saxby568
    @annalieff-saxby568 Год назад

    A regular voter, I have lived in my ward for nearly 30 years and, for all elections, have attended a single polling station. For the first election requiring Voter ID, my polling station has been changed. Somebody, it seems, thinks there are going to be more? fewer? voters, or wishes to ensure shorter? longer? wait times to vote. Any conspiracy theorist care to make a web of these strands?

  • @davea6314
    @davea6314 Год назад +2

    Hello Limeys! -Dave the Bloody Yank

  • @MPM6785ChitChat
    @MPM6785ChitChat Год назад +9

    There's also those who don't have photo ID at all - no driver's licence, current Passport, bus pass etc.
    Peoples names and addresses are going to be on the Register so if no photo ID then 3 forms of ID that correspond - bills, bank statement, medical card etc , should be sufficient.
    It's the same rules that apply for letting property when Agents/landlords/ ladies have to act as immigration 🙄
    Edit: The lD information provided has to be secured for their data protection otherwise there's a heavy fine

    • @BigMrFirebird
      @BigMrFirebird Год назад

      Agreed.

    • @user-ji3zl4vd9b
      @user-ji3zl4vd9b Год назад

      India has mandatory voter id ans well as electronic voting machines, that in itself is an indication, that the UK should not be doing it..
      Also, they had digital covid vaccine certificates..yikes..the UK should definitely not do any of it..

    • @adrianthoroughgood1191
      @adrianthoroughgood1191 Год назад +1

      I think there should be a backup mechanism where you have to take your polling card and sign a form promising that you are the person named and have your photo taken so that if you are committing fraud you can be prosecuted later. At the very least then we'd know how many people were really trying it, even if some of them got away with it.

  • @DarylBaines
    @DarylBaines Год назад

    Voting should be mandatory.

    • @samsara3694
      @samsara3694 Год назад

      Aside that going against individual freedoms, it would be totally pointless, would simply end up with spoilt ballot papers.

    • @DarylBaines
      @DarylBaines Год назад

      @@samsara3694 Spoilt ballot papers is fine - there should even be a box to tick for "no vote" - but it should be mandatory to participate in the process; it is in many countries. This makes citizens get off their asses, even if the weather is bad or there's something good on the telly. Arguably, the Brexit referendum result would have been dramatically different if the whole population had participated.

  • @peteypops
    @peteypops Год назад

    Its about time everyone carried I’d……what about a bar code tattoo on our feet at birth?

    • @vjab1108
      @vjab1108 Год назад +1

      Or on your forehead.

  • @ltsjustchris
    @ltsjustchris 3 месяца назад

    Revolution?

  • @RAWGRIP54
    @RAWGRIP54 Год назад

    All men and women should vote in a free society.

  • @omicSheep
    @omicSheep Год назад

    I don't understand UK's nonsense joke of voting system.......

  • @ducaroamer1261
    @ducaroamer1261 Год назад +7

    If voting mattered they wouldn’t let us do it!

  • @SamsungS-tf4jd
    @SamsungS-tf4jd Год назад

    If you are not motivated enough to get an ID to vote then you shouldnt be voting. Not everyone needs to vote.

    • @geoffbirchall7552
      @geoffbirchall7552 Год назад

      Could not think of anything more non productive than voting in a one party state!

  • @vulgar_scabby_beaver
    @vulgar_scabby_beaver Год назад

    It is not mandatory to have a passport, it is not mandatory to have a driving license.....but it is mandatory to register to vote. Therefore for those who cannot vote for lack of photo ID the offence of failing to register to vote would seem to be unlawful. There is a friction here which cries out for judicial review. This is like using a sledgehammer to crack a nut.

    • @adrianthoroughgood1191
      @adrianthoroughgood1191 Год назад

      You don't need ID to register to vote. Voting is not compulsory. So you can fulfill your duties without getting ID. Getting ID is easy and free. You get it from the same website where you register to vote. You just need a photo to upload. The only people this will affect are people who don't find out before the deadline on 25th or people who don't know how to use the internet. Staff at homeless shelters will help people to register if they don't have a smartphone of their own. Perhaps libraries will too, or they should if they don't.

    • @vulgar_scabby_beaver
      @vulgar_scabby_beaver Год назад

      @@adrianthoroughgood1191 do you work for conservative central office? Are you being deliberately obtuse or are you just thick? I can be prosecuted for not registering to vote, but I will be forbidden from voting if I do not have photo ID which is optional. If you don't see the conflict there then you're lacking in critical thinking skills. We are not at war, we do not need ID cards which were soundly rejected and the number of recorded offences is miniscule to warrant this measure.

    • @adrianthoroughgood1191
      @adrianthoroughgood1191 Год назад

      @@vulgar_scabby_beaver when were ID cards soundly rejected? There was no referendum. The Tory led coalition government decided to cancel them. I don't know why you're accusing me of being a Tory, I hate them!
      Voting is optional. Photo ID is optional. These are facts. You are not forced to get one, but it's easy to get one if you want. Most countries have ID cards and require them to vote, whether they are at war or not. The government has all the info anyway. I think people are silly to object to ID cards. The would make a lot of things simpler. I just think they should be free.

  • @Sam19509
    @Sam19509 Год назад +5

    You don’t need photo ID to vote in Canada. I live there you just need to be registered on the voter’s list via voting in a previous election, filing your income taxes or paying your property taxes. Otherwise you just need to bring 2 pieces of mail indicated on a list posted by Elections Canada from the past 12 months that clearly show your name and current address. Many Renters vote this way. No Photo ID required whatsoever.

    • @danielmorris3687
      @danielmorris3687 Год назад +1

      Yes we are fortunate that we don't have so many obstacles to hinder us from exercising our right to vote. Especially when we see what our neighbour's to the south have to deal with. ✌️🇨🇦

    • @user-ji3zl4vd9b
      @user-ji3zl4vd9b Год назад +1

      India has mandatory voter id ans well as electronic voting machines, that in itself is an indication, that the UK should not be doing it..
      Also, they had digital covid vaccine certificates..yikes..the UK should definitely not do any of it..

    • @josh77577
      @josh77577 Год назад

      ur lying . U need photo id to vote in canada. You need to be registered but they have to make sure u are who you say you are. In void of a photo ID you can use a utility bill or bank statement with matching names and addresses.

    • @Sam19509
      @Sam19509 Год назад +1

      @@danielmorris3687 yet in Canada we deal with election deniers just not to the same extent as the US. Lol right wing nuts call voter fraud because PM Trudeau is the first Canadian PM in history to lose the popular vote twice. They don’t seem to understand that the winner of an election in a Parliamentary Democracy like in the UK and Canada is the one who wins the most SEATS.

    • @danielmorris3687
      @danielmorris3687 Год назад +1

      @@josh77577 isn't that exactly what he said? You can use 2 pieces of mail... like utility bills or bank statements.

  • @stigmontgomery7901
    @stigmontgomery7901 Год назад

    2 million people don't have the right ID to vote? Then I suggest they go out and get some asap!

    • @jonnycola86
      @jonnycola86 27 дней назад

      They are not really missing out.

  • @port525
    @port525 Год назад

    Faulty argument: 9 frauds were caught. Undetected frauds are not included in his analysis 😮😂

  • @handle_the_handle
    @handle_the_handle Год назад

    Id is a continental concept

  • @groovydonkey
    @groovydonkey Год назад

    I have voted for years and never had to show my passport. When the elections come up next year, if this ne rule is still in place, I will not vote. I have never had to do it in the past and I'm going to start now.

    • @Deedeevenice
      @Deedeevenice Год назад

      And you have summed up EVERYTHING that is wrong in society! Your forefathers never used cars or planes, you don’t think you should be transported by pony and trap! With the same logic, should you be using the device? We never had smartphones before 2000, should you not reject it and use landline? Progress or die, your choice!

  • @hassyg4083
    @hassyg4083 Год назад +6

    good way to get rid of postal fraud

    • @BigMrFirebird
      @BigMrFirebird Год назад +1

      Postal fraud been such a problem, then?

    • @joedowning2428
      @joedowning2428 Год назад +1

      By suppressing younger people's ability to vote?

    • @maalikserebryakov
      @maalikserebryakov Год назад

      @@BigMrFirebirdyes it has cope and seethe illegals 🤭🤭🤭

    • @joedowning2428
      @joedowning2428 Год назад +2

      @@maalikserebryakov given that it's my generations future, I'd say that my vote means more than a pensioners. But you do you, fascist

  • @RAWGRIP54
    @RAWGRIP54 Год назад

    Can I use my Costco card.

  • @RichardMason-gj9ue
    @RichardMason-gj9ue Месяц назад +1

    I’m 36 never voted don’t really give a crap

  • @juice6521
    @juice6521 Год назад

    Why is it ALWAYS the party to the right asking for more restrictions on voters?

    • @paullittle5200
      @paullittle5200 Год назад

      Because they are fascists coming in through the back door.

    • @Orange-po6qv
      @Orange-po6qv Год назад

      Asking to get an id to vote like in all sane nations is a restriction? What do you suggest instead? Should tourists coming on a 2 week trip also be able to vote?

  • @ShahrezadNorMohammadiy9116
    @ShahrezadNorMohammadiy9116 Год назад

    ‘We as leaders need to be collectively RESPONSIBLE; we need to stand up and take collective RESPONSIBILITY for our current failings, but also for the ACTIONS!’ ✊🏻

  • @Cabinetbog06
    @Cabinetbog06 Год назад +3

    Everyone should've been given a government ID card for free for this to have been implemented

    • @adrianthoroughgood1191
      @adrianthoroughgood1191 Год назад

      You can get a free ID but you need to apply for it. They can't just post you one because how would they get your photo to put on it? They should have sent out leaflets to every house inviting people to apply. The voting card does tell you but most people probably don't read it.

    • @TheDangoNinja
      @TheDangoNinja Год назад

      @@adrianthoroughgood1191 OP assumes the government as your photo already

    • @adrianthoroughgood1191
      @adrianthoroughgood1191 Год назад

      I applied on Monday evening. It took a few minutes. My ID arrived Thursday morning. Very fast and easy.

  • @Boo-pv4hn
    @Boo-pv4hn Год назад

    Some of us are already being stoped from voting those who are house bound and those who can only go to the nearest post box. I’ve been applying for 3 years to get it back to postal vote every year they fail! Before I moved home it was already a postal vote they changed it back after I moved with out my request

  • @sebastianguerre6868
    @sebastianguerre6868 Год назад +1

    So anyone mentioning why this new rule has been brought in gets their comments removed. I see.

  • @dougreimer2912
    @dougreimer2912 Год назад +4

    Here in Ontario 🇨🇦 one can use their passport, driver's license or health card as photo voter ID...it's not an issue.

    • @Boo-pv4hn
      @Boo-pv4hn Год назад

      We don’t have health cards here

    • @dougreimer2912
      @dougreimer2912 Год назад

      @@Boo-pv4hn That's unfortunate. It's probably the most common form of ID here. It renews like a driver's license.

    • @luminousfractal420
      @luminousfractal420 Год назад

      In the uk you dont get any legitimate form of id until your 18 other than your driving licence...if you can afford to drive. And then its not for sure theyd accept a driving licence. Youd need something more secure (watermarks etc) like a passport. Which they dont have because theyre still on their parents passports ....if their parents have passports. poorest wont have a need for one. And probably wont be able to afford one (or a family full) given the current setup. They cost a ton.
      Cuts out the youngest voters who cant afford to own a vehicle. ....If passports are required its another direct attack on the poor.
      Eugenicists doing eugenical hatred. Crippling the poor. Psychopaths.

    • @randomguy4116
      @randomguy4116 Год назад +2

      To get any of those things requires a stringent background and or document submission

    • @giglioflex
      @giglioflex Год назад +3

      Makes sense given every native canadian has a eligible ID due to universal healthcare. The problem is that not everyone in britian does, 2 million in fact. If they are going to require ID, they should be required to mail ID out to everyone. It's really overkill though, making everyone's life more of a hassle for 9 potential cases of fraud is pretty ridiculous.

  • @Worldaffairslover
    @Worldaffairslover Год назад

    They took a book out of the Republican playbook

  • @wanderingfool6312
    @wanderingfool6312 Год назад

    Voter suppression for the poor. A move not needed, not asked for and benefits one party, the tories.

  • @asmith9140
    @asmith9140 Год назад +2

    it won't make it harder to vote but itwill underline the come because those wh are determined to vote will comply but it does look like tories are running scared they want to keep power and shifting borders wont be enough this time

  • @weshurst4895
    @weshurst4895 Год назад +1

    Hey they’re just like us 🇺🇸

  • @davidpearson243
    @davidpearson243 Год назад

    Only if we have legally In forced ID cards for everyone over 18

  • @justwallace
    @justwallace Месяц назад

    In Africa you need an id but in Europe you don’t 😂😂😂 that’s is absolutely insane!

  • @jyotiranjanmohapatra1136
    @jyotiranjanmohapatra1136 Год назад

    Same needed in india NRC ..It will give authority to identify the weakness in the SYstem....

    • @public.public
      @public.public Год назад

      The amount of voing fraud here is insignificant.
      My i.d. was already known for my voting card to be posted to me.
      This whole thing is just another incidence of contracts for the friends of Tory MPs.

  • @charlesapana9935
    @charlesapana9935 Год назад +3

    Politicians keep frustrating us and now ID brouhaha

  • @hanselmansell7555
    @hanselmansell7555 Год назад +1

    Yes, obviously! Especially for people who are less likely to vote for your managers #BBConservatives

  • @georgenorris2657
    @georgenorris2657 Год назад +4

    There should definitely be a a free way to obtain photo id before this system is implemented. Furthermore it should not be compulsory to have id in order to vote for at least a couple of years after changing the system: there are already insufficient people voting in our elections and this is just another hurdle.

    • @cjjk9142
      @cjjk9142 Год назад

      I mean there literally is

    • @adrianthoroughgood1191
      @adrianthoroughgood1191 Год назад +1

      It would be outrageous to do his without free ID being available, but it is. They said in the video 47k people out of the 2M people without ID have got one. But I agree there needs to be a period of several years and at least 1 general election where there is a backup mechanism for someone who tries to vote but doesn't have ID. Eg taking their photo and at least proof of address and having them sign a form. To make it easier to prosecute them later if they were lying.

    • @georgenorris2657
      @georgenorris2657 Год назад

      @@cjjk9142 There literally is what?

    • @cjjk9142
      @cjjk9142 Год назад

      @@georgenorris2657 free ID