So pretty much your proposing the idea in the Ringing Cedars of Russia books? They're all about everyone getting their own manageable plots of land, growing vegetables on them organically and then further out having a natural forest. Read the books, they're life changing!
Hi, we haven't read the book you mention, but thanks for the tip! We don't propose a specific plan on whether everyone should own a land plot or not - but yes we do propose growing fruit and vegetables in a regenerative/organic way and having wild landscapes for hunting.
Such an interesting watch, thank you so much for bringing these thoughts to me and to the people. One question came to my mind. Was the role that the predator had in the ecologies of early lands of the European planes only to keep the population down, or in other words, is that the only role we would have to compensate for in its modern synthesized version, or was their role /will our role be more complex as the grazing animals new predators
Thank you very much! In nature, you can say a predator is keeping itself alive - with the side effect of regulating and balancing the population of grazers. If we are to act as the civilized predator in this modern version, our role is similar in the sense that we get food, but different in the sense that we can overpower the grazers easily - which means we have to "consciously manage" our predation so it is optimal for the system and ourselves. This is different from regular predators who compete in the system - which then self-regulate. A lion for instance will not become too successful and kill off all the grazers because they evolve gradually along with their prey - unlike us, who were able to pick up tools among other things and become very dominant.
Other roles/effects predators have is to scare off grazers so that they move around which benefits the landscape, they also generate and distribute prey carcasses which attracts some animals while repelling others. These dynamics belong to a phenomenon called trophic cascades. How much we would need to synthesize these effects is a really interesting question. It would be a process of discovery if we tried to create a wild food system... but there are also many unknowns with farming. Hope this answered you question
@ The creator of Pliestocene Park, Sergei Zimov, wrote a little book detailing a very similar concept to what you have laid out in this video, it's called Wild Field Manifesto
Will I definitely agree that this would be a great alternative to farming, just remember that this sort of thing will be opposed by anti-hunting groups, much like how farms are opposed by anti-farming groups. The game ranches in South Africa are being opposed by anti-hunting groups, so it would most likely be no different in this scenario.
Hi, thank you for your interest. You are definitely right that this is a super difficult terrain of opposing interests - financial and sometimes also ideological. It is our hope that the more people who see the good reasons for trying this out the more likely it is that some group succeeds in making a first try with it somewhere - where there is either enough agreement between parties or just one big landowner willing to try it(probably with some governmental support). If that happened, and people saw all these positive benefits hopefully the opposition would diminish.
This is an amazing concept. It should be sampled with 1 or 2 willing farms willing to do the conversion. This would be great for our planet but a change this monumental would take a very systematic approach to put in place over a large time frame(10-20year). I would image a starting point is a sample size with significant data evidence of its effectiveness, as well as some investors willing to replace agricultural meet with wild game. Do you currently have any plans in place to put this into action? Are there any willing parties?
Hi there, we completely agree. This idea, the research and the filmmaking has been going on for quite some time - as we also mention it is based on an opinion paper(which one of us made before the film - it is in the link) - while working on all these things we have talked to many people, but after releasing the visualization - more and more people are catching on to the idea... As we speak we do not have a specific partner to start the project - but it is our hope that the film could be the beginning of connections happening - with or without us. Are you involved in things related to food or biology? Thanks for the kind words and for the interest.
@@WILDFOODSYSTEMS thanks for the fast reply! I’m currently just a nature and biology enthusiast. I love our planet think ideas like this are essential to making sure what we have now is sustainable for not only our generation but the future generations as well! I’m currently a United States, Texas resident, and I’m sure agencies such as Texas parks and wildlife would be very interested in this concept, and might have the resources available to do an experiment on this scale. I hope to see more from your channel and this concept. I will spread the word as well!
@Faithwalksfirst Hi again, and thanks for your quick reply and your good suggestions. We who made the film are from Denmark. Good to hear that it resonates with you in Texas.
Tak Peter og helt enig, jo flere der er optimistiske omkring ideen des mere muligt vil det være at udtage land til det - og jo flere der tænker i de her baner des mere sandsynligt er det at nogen der allerede har jord eller anskaffer jord får mod på at kaste sig ud i det.
Hej Oskar. Det kan man kun sige med sikkerhed ved at prøve det. Filmen prøver at samle puslespillet ud fra erfaringer med game reserves i afrika, oostvardersplassen i holland og et eksperiment i gulf of mexico samt med generel økologisk teori og naturhistorie. vi har lavet et estimat i vores opinion paper på 6 ton pr km2/år så vidt jeg husker, men det er ekstremt usikkert og kan ikke bruges til særlig meget..
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So pretty much your proposing the idea in the Ringing Cedars of Russia books? They're all about everyone getting their own manageable plots of land, growing vegetables on them organically and then further out having a natural forest. Read the books, they're life changing!
Hi, we haven't read the book you mention, but thanks for the tip! We don't propose a specific plan on whether everyone should own a land plot or not - but yes we do propose growing fruit and vegetables in a regenerative/organic way and having wild landscapes for hunting.
I've had this exact same idea for quite some time now, glad to see others are coming to the same conclusions
Cool, good to hear!
Cool idea and well researched- would be awesome to see it attempted
Thank you Jordan - sincerely
Such an interesting watch, thank you so much for bringing these thoughts to me and to the people. One question came to my mind. Was the role that the predator had in the ecologies of early lands of the European planes only to keep the population down, or in other words, is that the only role we would have to compensate for in its modern synthesized version, or was their role /will our role be more complex as the grazing animals new predators
Thank you very much! In nature, you can say a predator is keeping itself alive - with the side effect of regulating and balancing the population of grazers. If we are to act as the civilized predator in this modern version, our role is similar in the sense that we get food, but different in the sense that we can overpower the grazers easily - which means we have to "consciously manage" our predation so it is optimal for the system and ourselves. This is different from regular predators who compete in the system - which then self-regulate. A lion for instance will not become too successful and kill off all the grazers because they evolve gradually along with their prey - unlike us, who were able to pick up tools among other things and become very dominant.
Other roles/effects predators have is to scare off grazers so that they move around which benefits the landscape, they also generate and distribute prey carcasses which attracts some animals while repelling others. These dynamics belong to a phenomenon called trophic cascades. How much we would need to synthesize these effects is a really interesting question. It would be a process of discovery if we tried to create a wild food system... but there are also many unknowns with farming. Hope this answered you question
You should look into Pleistocene Park.
Thanks, we will check it out!
@ The creator of Pliestocene Park, Sergei Zimov, wrote a little book detailing a very similar concept to what you have laid out in this video, it's called Wild Field Manifesto
@@PILLOWKVLT Thank you again! We follow the Zimov family's work closely! We also use their estimates in our opinion paper!
Wow! fresh presentation... Comprehensive too...
Lets go!!💚
Will I definitely agree that this would be a great alternative to farming, just remember that this sort of thing will be opposed by anti-hunting groups, much like how farms are opposed by anti-farming groups. The game ranches in South Africa are being opposed by anti-hunting groups, so it would most likely be no different in this scenario.
Hi, thank you for your interest. You are definitely right that this is a super difficult terrain of opposing interests - financial and sometimes also ideological. It is our hope that the more people who see the good reasons for trying this out the more likely it is that some group succeeds in making a first try with it somewhere - where there is either enough agreement between parties or just one big landowner willing to try it(probably with some governmental support). If that happened, and people saw all these positive benefits hopefully the opposition would diminish.
This is an amazing concept. It should be sampled with 1 or 2 willing farms willing to do the conversion. This would be great for our planet but a change this monumental would take a very systematic approach to put in place over a large time frame(10-20year). I would image a starting point is a sample size with significant data evidence of its effectiveness, as well as some investors willing to replace agricultural meet with wild game. Do you currently have any plans in place to put this into action? Are there any willing parties?
Hi there, we completely agree. This idea, the research and the filmmaking has been going on for quite some time - as we also mention it is based on an opinion paper(which one of us made before the film - it is in the link) - while working on all these things we have talked to many people, but after releasing the visualization - more and more people are catching on to the idea... As we speak we do not have a specific partner to start the project - but it is our hope that the film could be the beginning of connections happening - with or without us. Are you involved in things related to food or biology? Thanks for the kind words and for the interest.
@@WILDFOODSYSTEMS thanks for the fast reply! I’m currently just a nature and biology enthusiast. I love our planet think ideas like this are essential to making sure what we have now is sustainable for not only our generation but the future generations as well! I’m currently a United States, Texas resident, and I’m sure agencies such as Texas parks and wildlife would be very interested in this concept, and might have the resources available to do an experiment on this scale. I hope to see more from your channel and this concept. I will spread the word as well!
@Faithwalksfirst Hi again, and thanks for your quick reply and your good suggestions. We who made the film are from Denmark. Good to hear that it resonates with you in Texas.
Lad os komme i gang med et ordentligt forsøg med okser, elge, bisoner mm. i Danmark. Hvor spændende og rigt at leve i sådan en zone.
Tak Peter og helt enig, jo flere der er optimistiske omkring ideen des mere muligt vil det være at udtage land til det - og jo flere der tænker i de her baner des mere sandsynligt er det at nogen der allerede har jord eller anskaffer jord får mod på at kaste sig ud i det.
Bloody good. Tnx!
Thank you very much!!!
Forestify food. ❤
Really cool
Thank you!
Hey, fedt!:o hvilken af artiklerne siger noget om hvor meget kød ville kunne tages ud fra rewilding områderne? / kalorier?
Hej Oskar. Det kan man kun sige med sikkerhed ved at prøve det. Filmen prøver at samle puslespillet ud fra erfaringer med game reserves i afrika, oostvardersplassen i holland og et eksperiment i gulf of mexico samt med generel økologisk teori og naturhistorie. vi har lavet et estimat i vores opinion paper på 6 ton pr km2/år så vidt jeg husker, men det er ekstremt usikkert og kan ikke bruges til særlig meget..