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30 minutes over 30 hours is way better than forever in a ditch or in the grille of oncoming trucks. Glad you're safe and everyone else was.
FOR REAL YES people die doing the dumbest things
All in a Prius 😊
@@jackhammer078jack4 I had a prius and all I can say is as shitty of a look they are, they are actually really nice cars.
@@extraslayar4585 not sure what you’re talking about. The interior is about on par with a Corolla for 2.5x the price but now you have 2 powertrains to maintain.
Not to mention the lack of power on the earlier models can be borderline dangerous in certain situations.
@@funfun5656 Yeah I'd say you need at least 200hp (in a sub 3000lb car) to be safe on the road. It's still slow, but at least you still have enough power to merge and pass. My daily is a Mazda 3 with 160hp, and it feels slow enough to be sketchy sometimes
Thanks Ed! It’s been an high honor to tell my stories on Vinwiki.
Listening to this as I work. I did a double take when you called the courthouse, as it sounded like whorehouse. I thought, “what a great way to celebrate a traffic stop”
@@Ma660t5andw1ch The best little courthouse in Texas.
The same goes for you Jay. It's a highly enjoyable treat when you're in the big chair. So, to recap. A high honor for you, Highly enjoyable for VinWiki OG's As for the comment section? A lot of them are just plain High! Btw, does that law apply to the entire state, or only certain counties/jurisdictions?
Great story. No shame in that game!
You are a legend my friend!
Born and raised in Texas, that’s usually referred to as “deferred adjudication” they also offer an option to take a defensive driving class. You can essentially get 2 tickets taken off your record every 2 years.
Asked about the class when i called. Judge said its only available to Texas residents. Ruled out that option for me. Its always about the money.
The judge used several terms to explain it to me. He even called it “probation” at one point. guess the concept has different terms depending on location.
Differed is an informal probation because you don’t have to report to an officer. There is one catch to the no tickets during the probation period. If your in Texas with an out of state license, the probation enforceable in Texas because there would be no reason for any other state to report a speeding ticket to Texas. For example. I was home for Christmas one year. On the way out of town, heading back to TN, I got a ticket. My license was TN. I took deferred and when they told me the time period I replied “well I’ll be in TN for the entire time so 90 days shouldn’t be a problem.” The lady on the phone said “true because there’s no way for us to know if you got a ticket in your home state”. If you have a TX license, are in deferred in TX and get a ticket in any other state you WILL violate the terms of the probation because the issuing state will report the ticket back to TX. Reporting an offense to the state that issues the ID is standard procedure nationwide.
@@dave5655not all states report back to your home state. Louisiana hardly will do it as well Oklahoma is unlikely to as well
Even the "get another ticket & you fail the probation" is up to the discretion of the prosecutor. A friend had 3 consecutive tickets all on Deferred Adjudication simultaneously. He used the "I'm a starving college student and my garbage car draws police attention" excuse & I guess the college-town DA felt sorry for him.
As a Texan, I've used defensive driving & DefAdj exclusively so that I don't have a conviction on my record in over 30 years.
As has been said, it is all about the $. As long as you can pay for your sins, you can get practically unlimited moving violations yet maintain a clean record & low insurance. This is just one of the many reasons why I ❤ Tx!
USAF bomber pilots will regularly take 20-30min power naps like that (in shifts) during long missions. You wouldn’t think it, but even a short sleep can make a world of difference.
As a former newspaper delivery driver, absolutely, a 15-30 min nap would get me at lest an hour and a half if i was dead tired (IE literally fighting to keep my eyes open), my route was ~4.5 hours, generally the nap would get me to sunrise, and sunrise would give me a natural 2nd wind to finish the day out.
Yeah man. As someone who only gets three to four hours of sleep, that 15 minute nap you take will make or break your day.
10-20 is what nasa prefers due to the fact that after 20, you could hit REM, which will make you wake up tired
Former DOD contractor checking in. I used to work on and fly with AWACS missions to test new system upgrades and mission capability. As a plane that stays on station for a LONG time, yes, they do rotate in and out for quick naps when needed. Even the people I worked with would nap when needed to be more alert. When you're tracking a lot of targets and relaying information, better to be alert than half asleep.
also makes you more likely to get dementia....so do with that what you will
FYI, that "90 days with no traffic offenses" window is within the same county. So if you get another speeding ticket in the state of Texas on a different county, that won't affect the process on the first one.
Ask me how I know ;) 8-) Both tickets dismissed.
I was thinking the same thing he's in a different state all together
I heard of someone on probation
Got a ticket in a different state that he wasn't allowed to leave the state he like an idiot. Didn't just pay it instead he didn't. And got a warrant. In that state
Then his po saw that and he violated back to prison. All over like $175
Idiot they would have never know if he just paid it and he one of those 😔why do bad things happen to me
🤔...... 🙄 cause you stupid
@@johnj2496 alot of words for the government is happy to kidnap you over $175
People don’t always have that kind of money man some people live paycheck to paycheck. About 30% of American's make poverty wages. It’s sad but true. Parole is a scam if they haven’t served their time keep them in jail. Releasing someone from jail with a bunch of unrealsitic demands is unfair to the spirit of the constitution. Shall not be deprived of life liberty or the pursuit of happiness without due process of the law. When the criminal was originally sentenced there was due process. The second sentencing did not occur under due process of the law rather it occurred under the color of law.
Lucky. Colorado goes off any ticket. Shit get a charge for Marijuana in Ohio and they'll pull their deal.
Yep! They only report per county.
-Hey whatcha doing this week?
-Not much, driving across USA twice
I used to drive long haul. Can confirm the awesome power of a 15-30 minute nap to remove that urge to sleep
Its like pushing the reset button on your brain.
I did long haul for 4 years and fish (canned herring, sardines, salmon, etc) works better than caffeine
Yup. It makes you feel like an entirely different person.
Fellow ex-driver here; I used to do 36+ hours before needing a break ( water to water). Quick shut- eye works, but I also used to hop out, wash my hair & that worked for me. Juggling 5 comic books at a time was more tiring....
But It gets tricky when your in the middle of nowhere and the shoulder is a ditch. Used to have a rubber band to snap on my wrist in bad cases.
I got a ticket for the first time in Texas and asked about a plea deal (coming from NY where that was common) and the justice clerk looked at me like I was insane. She said to me "What do you mean you want a parking ticket or something?!" acting like I was trying to bribe her and getting offended. I explained "No ma'am that is just how it worked in New York, how would you recommend I deal with this?" and she calmed down and explained this system to me. Pretty easy and I didn't have to go to court so I am alright with it but man I did not expect the backlash!
I always say “I’m not discussing my day officer” when they start asking questions 😅
Live in Texas, got a ticket, was allowed to get that notarized form for clearing my record, forgot to send it in. Received another form in the mail 7 months later with the original 6 month expired due date on it, turned it in and found out they put a warrant out for me over that paper work. Texas is something else
Same thing happened to me lol. Forgot about my ticket for months. A ticket for my truck being tinted. $80 to like $250, and had the warrant for like a month
how do you just "forget" about ticket like its a text message and was like oops.
@@drizzify7850 easy you forget about it😂
@@drizzify7850 college
I did the same thing and they put a warrant out 11 years later no bs. This was last year. Can’t really complain though I’ve had a hundred plus moving violations and still have a clean driving record. As long as you work with them and pay you can play.
Been living in TX for a few decades. I’ve had a few tickets get removed this way. The real trick is to find an attorney that specializes in traffic tickets (there is no shortage of those here). You send them your ticket and they take care of everything else. Every time I did it they also got the fine reduced by almost the exact same amount as their fee. Win-win.
They also have a description on the ticket itself where you don’t need the lawyer depending on the ticket you can ask the judge if you can do a defensive driving course to clear your record within a certain time frame
@@noyourawsome2lol979 True. I'm just saying that the truly lazy Texan can hire an attorney to take care of the ticket for you and then you don't have to worry about defensive driving or anything. The only caveat is that I once sent my ticket to an attorney and then didn't hear about it for several months. By the time it made it through the system I had gotten another ticket so at one point in college I was actually on deferred adjudication in the city of Weatherford (Failure to Yield) and Parker County (Speeding) at the same time.
@@noyourawsome2lol979 With a lawyer you don't have to do that.
Its amazing how that works, isnt it?
You get a ticket in Southlake all you have to do is go on their website and choose Deferred Judification and pay the fine and promise you be a good boy/ girl for 3 months/ 90 days and it doesn't go on your record. I use to go to a lawyer but that's stupid just go the website of the county you received the ticket and save yourself $75-150 or whatever they charge now a days and remember the lawyer isn't handling your ticket it's the clerks that work for them and they will do exactly what I told you to do and go online lol
20-30 minute naps have saved me multiple times. From AV/Rigging/Concert all the way to commercial truck driving. It's amazing what a short nap can do for your cognizance. I believe Mythbusters did an episode about this.
Need more Prius racing stories. Literally anything with this sweet silver voice.
Shame that the Spanish Trail may be unbeatable now because the 18 mile I-10 Bridge over the Atchafalaya in LA has time based average speed cameras at 60 MPH.
If you cross that bridge in under 18 minutes, automatic ticket
Sadly the small town in the middle doesn't have a gas station but it does make a place to stop, and with the way the bridge is made, there's likely not cops checking speed on the middle of that bridge anymore. I bet it would be a great place to do high speed pulls at night
That’s messed up
It is legally called deferred adjudication. I have personally used this a half dozen times in Texas. Fun story, it was a high school biology teacher that originally told me about it. Judge was so impressed that a 17 year old knew what it was I basically got carried out on a palanquin.
The same thing happened to me in Texas, except when I called the number, the judge told me to send an extra $100 and they would not report the ticket. Felt like extortion so I took the ticket. It has been 7 years with no tickets.
Unless there's another one that takes 2 rights to get into off I-10, he pulled into Cracker Barrel in Sulphur, Louisiana
I do believe that was the one. Wasnt too far past the Louisiana/Texas state line. Row of bushes at the edge of the parking lot. Nearly drove the car into one. Needed that rest stop for safety.
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Im still waiting on that sponsorship money! 😂
First time hearing this guy, SUPER chill. Good story teller too.
There's something similar in Kansas. It required paying a traffic lawyer to know about it but I got a speeding ticket there and my attorney got the ticket delete in exchange for paying a fee to the court and a fee to my attorney.
Not getting you out of a ticket just keeping it off your record and it’s the price of the ticket plus a fine usually $200-$300 total. Depend on how fast you are over the limit. You can only do it once a year maybe 2 unless you get a lawyer.
Here in New Zealand we have signs on the open roads that say " tired? Take a 30min break"
30 minute naps work great for us truckers. That power nap and a good stretch REALLY helps out quite a bit on them long haul nights.
Shiny side up, sticky side down.
That's not a "loophole" that's deferred adjudication. Totally normal thing in TX
I think the new interesting thing would be cross country EV races. I think that would be quite interesting with all the charging differences and all.
add 30% more time. at the moment new fancy cars got 800volt systems. once that double again. or they find even a faster way to charge then it will close that 30% diffrence
Charging being the issue, it's 100% chance a Tesla wins every time.
They are already doing it with the Zero motorcycles.
20-30 minute naps can completely change your day
Those Cracker Barrel parking lots are a godsend.
I always like seeing this guy's stories... he has a great chill energy
This story was BEYOND awesome. Thank you for bringing it to light🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Texas native here. this “deferred adjudication” that he happened across isn't offered everywhere in TX. he got lucky. but we also don't have a points system for our licenses either. and last time i checked, you can take a defensive driving course that wipes out a ticket if you don't have another ticket within the year.
We don't have a point system because then nobody would be on the road anymore 😂
@@TheLongDon i clicked on this clip hoping to find out about something i didn't already know.
How long is the class?
@@matthew_natividad about 50 feet
Same thing in Kansas. Donate to some charity they pick - no tickets in the time they say - it never happened.
Stupidest thing I ever done did in my life was when I was a young truck driver, driving my new to me Freightliner cab over with forward set steer axle, powered by a 425 CAT. I drove straight through from Ogalala Kansas all the way to Gladstone Oregon because I’d missed my wife so much I just had to go home. The last 150 miles I’ll never forget till I die that I was so tired that I hands realized I had slowed to 45 mph on I-84 approaching Biggs junction at hwy 97, I was in right lane and about consciously drifted off the interstate in to the Columbia River. I reach the truck stop at the bridge of the gods and pulled my truck in to the old old Burns Bros and filled my thermos and washed my face with ice cold water and decided I can make it the next 120 miles so I got back in my truck fired it up and on the road I went but about 1 min later as I was headed west an old man came on the CB radio and called out to the driver in the white west bound cab over. That old man struck up a conversation with me all the way to the I-205 south bound exit! The entire way I would look in my mirrors and never seen another trucker anywhere and I asked him a few times during our 2 hour drive where you at and he would reply with oh I’m far behind ya, kid. There were no cars with CB antennas sticking near me but I never seen him! I even slowed down to 55 from 60 trying to let him catch up! When I reached I-205 he said to me “I think you got it from here kid and thank you for the great conversation, you take care now”! I thought you think I got it from here? I never told him I was tired and almost crashed so why is he implying he was helping me stay awake, how did he know that’s exactly what he did and I was so grateful. I never never seen him. When I arrived home and surprised my wife who had no idea, thought I’d be home 2 days later she looked at me and asked me through the window as I stood there smiling at her “what are you doing here” with a shocked look on her face. I believe everybody who reads this can figure out why she would ask that instead of smiling at me and running to the door to greet me. Let’s just say I risked my life and lives of innocent people for something that wasn’t ever true. One of my 3 toughest lessons in my life.
Missouri doesn't issue rear plates on 3/4 ton and bigger trucks. It's a real pain the further away you get from the state.
Apparently they don’t issue rear plates on passenger cars either. I’ve seen more cars with no plates in the past 4 months of living in Joplin than I ever have before lol
@@FappinSteve I'm amazed by the amount of cars on the road that has temp tags that expired 2 years ago. How does a grown adult not know you have to pay sales tax on a vehicle?
3 decades ago I was ticketed for 88 in a 65 in East Texas. (2 more mph and I would of had to go before the judge.) I called the courthouse and it was the judge that answered. Imagine my surprise.
In the 90's in my teenage years I lived in north Arkansas. The small towns use to clear the tickets if you paid cash within a week of the ticket. Not sure how legal that was, but I had 3 tickets that never showed up thanks to it. Else I'd been grounded for a while. ha ha
Driving fatigue is such a tricky thing to overcome, you simply dont know if you will wake yourself back up and have the sense to pull over, or actually pass out. i had driven across most of Canada, Alberta - New Brunswick when i had just crossed into Quebec i pulled over for a nap. saying to myself, no this is enough, your in Quebec time for a nap, instantly falling asleep, and woke up shortly after refreshed and pressed on.
What he says is true, in 2017 I was caught speeding near Lampases TX, they offered me this same deal and it worked out great, Despite the $110 extortion.
Jay's stories are some of the best that get shared here. Rabbit, John Ficarra, Rob Ferretti and all are great, but Jay's just so wonderfully low-key off the wall that his picture on a thumbnail is a can't miss for me.
In Minnesota, the term is "Continuance for Dismissal", so that's not just a Texas thing.
Here in NC, in addition to being able to plead to a lesser charge for traffic violations you can also plead guilty and ask the judge for a prayer for judgement. I think it helps if you have a lawyer when doing that. It's been a long time since I've gotten a ticket, but I was able to plead a 74 in a 55 down to a 64 in a 55, and anything under 10 over and you get no points on your license if your record is clean.
safety over everything man, glad you chose to be safe both for yourself and others
I got stopped 20 inside Texas on the Louisiana state line for not having a front license plate. When asked why I was stopped, the lady said I didn't have a front license plate. I said when you saw my Louisiana license plate why did you continue with the traffic stop? She said, " Do you want to go to Jail?" That's TEXAS.... Very Sad
Homie can "Hear the deer"
Watching this feed was great! Can’t wait for the next adventure Jay!
Yeah that's how it works here in Texas. I had a bunch of tickets just from driving a crappy car couldn't get it inspected and turn into a handful of tickets and I went to the judge and the judge was like hey I'm going to knock all these off if you just don't get any tickets in the next 90 days and I didn't even have to pay anything I just had to stay out of trouble
Great story, told well, would listen to this guy again
Awesome story Jay, thank you
I once drove from a town south of Split, Croatia back home to Gothenburg Sweden. For some reason I thought it was a good idea to drive nonstop. Had been awake all day and set of at 19:00 simply to avoid traffic. Slept for 30 minutes at a Mcdonalds in Switzerland and kept going. We hit big time traffic in Germany at 16:00 the day after. I put our rental volvo in P about 02:00 at night in my parking space. Completely exhausted. But that 30 minute powernap did wonders!
Fantastic testimony
We call that Differed Adjudication in the State of Texas
I think we can all agree that Prius has earned its honorary sports car badge...several times over.
They sometimes offer deferred judification or something like that
Excellent story. I hope you have more and return to VinWiki.
LOL sounds like the officer was such a try hard. I better watch myself driving through TX then.
Hudspeth county in West Texas is flooded with State Troopers
Laughed my ass off cause it happened to me in Florida.....called in, nice lady put me on with the magistrate, mailed in the fine, got my form back, 30 days, notarized, sent it...checked in 3 months, no ticket even existed on my record.
They do prayer for judgements in NC but instead of 90 days it's 3 years I think. Maybe the time differs by crime, but it's offered.
My personal best from Canyon Country Cali to Atlanta GA is 30 hours in a straight truck.
You don't have to answer any of those questions even when you are in a Terry stop. It's crazy how many people don't know their 5th amendment
I wouldn’t necessarily say any ticket in Texas, more like a ticket issued in that particular Texas county, and maybe only under that one JP’s jurisdiction.
Ahh, they love to bring up that front plate 🤦♂
Sir I'm glad you took down the 30 minute power nap and you continue on your way thank you for being safe 👍
I received many traffic tickets in Texas I just sent them to Mallory in the Dallas-Fort Worth area and he bounces them around and they always got dismissed.$42 per ticket best money I ever spent
What do you mean they bounce them around?
People underestimate the revitalizing power of a power-nap.
I've had this happen in the past in MN. One county prosecutor called it a stay, one called it a writ of continuation. It's totally up to the prosecutor whether they are willing to offer it or not. I asked both times, one said sure since I had a clean record, the other said it wasn't a possibility.
Agree. I got a ticket in Martin County MN and the prosecutor basically told me GTFO. I told him I'd agree to plead guilty to 65/60. He agreed. There's a law in MN that if you plead guilty to 65/60 it won't affect insurance or points, which was fine with me.
I love hearing that his stop was Jacksonville, and then to see the Dames Point Bridge in a photo slide.
What kind of cop doesn't know that some other states don't require front license plates
I filmed a series a couple years ago and was so far beyond help from napping that I set a timer for 20 minutes and time traveled to 4 hrs later in the blink of an eye…
Sleep deprivation is no joke. My wipers were on too when I pulled into the parking lot and on camera I even said “why are my windshield wipers on? I have no idea.” 😂
Stay rested, stay safe out there guys. The only difference between drunk driving and drowsy driving is drunk drivers make corrections too late, and sleeping drivers don’t make them at all.
I got deferred adjudication once in Vigo county, IN. 6 months, no tickets in that county. I wasn't in that county for a year.
So what was the loophole
I don't know about Texas but in NJ, pop radar (instant on) isn't enforceable or valid in court.
Also, it's a delayed read K band so when you see K band and it's pop radar you have around 3-3.5 seconds or so to smash the brake pedal before they get your speed. I've tested this.
I remember going around 70 in a 35 that should been a 50 late at night here in NJ about 10 years ago when a cop who was hiding in a ditch hit me with it at 3am driving home in the M3. I hit the brakes hard down to 35, knew the cop didn't get me in time, and so when he asked for my license and registration I told him sure, but that I would need to see his radar gun if he was going to issue me a citation. He came back angry as hell 20-25mins later (deliberately made me wait as there wasn't much he could do) and wrote me a ticket for obstruction of view on the windshield for the radar detector I had. I was far more arrogant as a 22 year old than I am now at 32. $35 ticket, no moving violation, no points. The point of the story is that like everything else in life, education is key.
In Texas they call that "Deferred Adjudication". The length of time you have to be a good citizen, keeping your nose clean and free of moving violations vary and may vary on regions. City PD's will have the region set to the city or the county. DPS (our Texas highway patrol) will make it the whole state. And FWIW, DPS are usually below average for the cost of the fine. Over 100mph you're supposed stay behind bars until you can be seen by a judge which may present a problem if you're in the middle of nowhere and they have a Circuit Judge so you may be there for a month.
I use this when I need to and i do it in my own and in person. My wife has a lawyer on speed dial.
That seems a bit unfair given 100mph is only 15 over in some places in texas.
@@Melanie16040 the speeding does NOT apply to non-commercial vehicles.....
I had 93 in a 70 and had the coolest judge ever in Eldorado Texas this past year and the law has changed, now as long as you don't get another ticket in that county it's gone. Anywhere else doesn't matter
Super soothing voice
ticket deferment is common is a few states.
Congratulations Jay.
Hes right i got a ticket last year when I was 16 it was 102 in a 65!!!! and $300 and 6 months later it was completely gone no documentation about it publicly besides the ticket I have in my dresser!
In North Carolina you can use a PJC but no more than 2 in a 5 year time frame. Also, must be less than 25 over the speed limit
The picture of the car at an over look was taken near my hometown in NC. Pretty interesting to see it on RUclips
When you say get you out of any ticket; paying the ticket isn’t the same as getting you out of the ticket. For your average non rich person paying the ticket Is the punishment.
Proud of you for doing the right thing.
jurisdictions, usually small ones, in my state offer folks receiving citations similar arrangements; the "fee" money you pay them they get to keep most of it, whereas processing the ticket requires the fines be remitted thru the state. While the jurisdiction retains a portion, much or most of that money is allocated by statute to go to a myriad of departments or funds. a bit of a "tax cheat " , if you will- but its ripe for abuse, with instances of towns "speed traps" funding their general budgets with 'ticket' revenues.
I asked for a prayer for judgement with my first ticket. I got pulled over again shortly thereafter and when I showed up for court the judge asked if I had ever gotten a ticket. I answered truthfully that no I didn't because technically I didn't. The ticket was dismissed and just had to pay court costs. This was in North Carolina.
In Houston, that's called deferred disposition. Some call it deferred adjudication, although that term is for more serious offenses (Class B misdemeanor or higher).
The deferred sentence is fairly common. I've used it at least once. I'm not sure every state has it but Oklahoma has it too. It wouldn't surprise me if it's virtually universal in the United States.
Lived in California for 20 plus years before moving to Texas, what you said works in Texas. California also has a almost sure way to get out of a ticket. I can't remember what the CVC code was But if you were out to your home county you could request the officer to transfer the jurisdiction to that county, and the CHP officer would never show up to court.
Uh… that sweet deal you got is called a deferred adjudication and it’s probably the most common result for any speeding ticket in the state of Texas. Definitely not a loophole…
In Texas if you are not driving a commercial motor vehicle(Sec. 201.904) and you did not cause an accident while going over the posted speed limit(Sec. 545.351), then you did nothing wrong as far as Texas transportation code is concerned. Send the courthouse a motion to dismiss the speeding citation stating you were not in a commercial vehicle and didn't have an accident at the time of the citation and the judge should dismiss the ticket, No Fine, Fee, No Points ECT.
Damn Texas DPS never offered me this option and I live in Texass.
Deferred Adjudication is no longer allowed for out of state DL. I just went through this. Yes they call it probation too.
If you can sing the yellow rose of Texas in it's entirety to the officer he legally has to let you go.
The cop was checking to see if you were running dope. That route, coming from CA Heading east…he was questioning you to see if you react how drug traffickers react
The probation is only valid in the county its prescribed in. So if you get a ticket In a different county, it doesn't violate the probation.
I love how the office just automatically assumes everyone has a front license plate... This is especially funny because Oklahoma only does back plates. I think most of the states surrounding Texas only have back plates actually
20 US states don't require a front plate and another 6 have exceptions to the front plate rule
Louisiana back plate only
Thanks Ed!
Indiana does this iv been pulled over twice and did this they let you do this 3 times before they start to stick to your record
In texas they also remove the ticket if you take a 50$ defensive driving course
Every year I tell them someone stole my front plate, and if I can get a new one, They say no but tell me id have to a get new plates. I've saved thousands and thousands of dollars in toll fees😎
Dang Texas I didn’t know they did that
As a Texas resident in Amarillo I can tell you this works for all Texas speeding tickets I've had 5 and do the 90 day thing and off record each time.. There's no limit as long as you be good for 90 days then back to good. Of course the tickets can be 300 or 400 lol my last one was 98 in a 65 lol