Why You Should NEVER Buy a Used BMW with a V8 Engine (N63 4.4 V8)
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- The N63 V8 is BMW's 4.4-liter V-8 with 402 horsepower that saw use in every 5 Series, 6 Series, 7 Series, X5, and X6 model that have names ending with "50i" and were manufactured between 2008 and 2013. So many issues occur with this engine actually that BMW did a 'voluntary recall' redubbed the 'BMW Customer Care Program.'
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It was October 2016, and I was going to buy my first BMW. I was skipping straight to the top by picking up a 2011 BMW 750Li X-Drive. Oh, what a crazy ride it would be.
You see I didn’t know anything about the BMW N63 V8 engine. I would quickly find out. So, today, I’m going to be talking about. Specifically, I’m going to be going over what to do if you have a V8 BMW, and whether or not you should consider buying one.
The N63 V8 is BMW's 4.4-liter V-8 with 402 horsepower that saw use in every 5 Series, 6 Series, 7 Series, X5, and X6 model that have names ending with "50i" and were manufactured between 2008 and 2013. So many issues occur with this engine actually that BMW did a 'voluntary recall' redubbed the 'BMW Customer Care Program.'
Now, this 'Customer Care Program' is a major service. It takes several days for each car and could include replacement of the fuel injectors, mass airflow sensors, battery, crankcase vent lines, fuel pressure sensor, the engine’s vacuum pump and last, but certainly not least, replacement of the timing chain.
If all that didn’t sound like enough, all cars using this exact variant of the N63 engine will no longer be a part of the BMW long-life service intervals, instead of requiring a service check every 12 months or 10,000 driven miles.
Even if your car is out of warranty (ie, 5 years old and has 200k miles), it is covered by this campaign and costs the owner nothing. This means that if you currently own a BMW with the N63 engine, you need to call your BMW service center and make sure this has been completed.
While dealers were supposed to reach out to owners and make sure this was taken care of, many didn't. And, because it wasn't a recall, BMW did not notify owners about it via mail or any other methods.
Now, this is supposed to help mitigate the issues with the valve stems that these engines are notorious for having. The kicker is though, they don't replace these during this service, and any damage that is done has already been done.
You could have the dealer do the valve stems during this service, but it will cost you. If they are nice, they may reduce your labor cost as they already will have most of the engine disassembled anyway, but you may not get that lucky.
Now, you may be thinking. ‘Nic has been talking about BMWs from 2008-2013. I’ll just get one made before then. Well, the N62 V8 also has the valve stem seal issues, and it isn’t featured in the customer care program. Thus, you’ll be having to shell out the money for all of the other repairs in addition to the valve stems.
Newer BMW V8s are supposed to have these problems fixed, and as long as you have a warranty you will be fine. Only time will tell though when it comes to the 2014-present-day BMW V8s.
So, should you buy an N62 or N63 V8 BMW? Probably not. While these are some of the most luxurious and best driving cars I’ve ever experienced, the maintenance bills will cripple you especially if you aren’t prepared for them. I owned our 2011 BMW 750Li for 3 months. It cost me $4,000 in maintenance at that time.
Now sure, one can assume it would have been less after those repairs. But still, an average monthly maintenance cost of near $1,000 is not uncommon with these cars. Prepare for that, and you should be okay. Or, you could just buy well-spec a ‘40i’ version of any of these cars, and get the same luxury with a much more reliable inline 6 engine. 
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The BMW 750Li - one the best most amazing, incredible cars I've ever had the chance of driving, but oh so many issues. That probably won't stop me from buying another one, though... 🤔
Breakdown Automotive so if I call bmw and mention the customer care program will they fix my car?
Who do I call to have the customer care program??
Kids Videos The Calderons did you guys ever get an answer?
Bang settlement, class action lawyer. Do your Googles
The BMW 740 was so much better. No serious issues out of the V6 edition.
Complains about BMW issues. Has a Range Rover. LOL
I guess hes on his way to the next learning project lol
@@dolilicious yeah a lot of talk from someone who realy has no experience in cars
Sounds like to me he just couldn't afford the car and it got repossessed. A lot of people always complain about what they can't have or hold on to.
Rang rovers has to be one of the worst cars I’ve ever owned 🤦🏽♂️
@@BankMhg - Crazy thing is, even to this day the brand new one's still have a bad reputation of electrical and mechanical problems. You'd think after all these years Land Rover / Range Rover would get it right by now.
I work for BMW. It’s the valve stem SEALS. Which they are covered by the way. Been doing them free of cost to the customer since February. Take your car to the dealer with a simple concern of “hey my car starts smoking after about 10 minutes”. Then the technician will just perform diagnosis under the SIB as per BMW. Yes, it will take at least a week, if not more to perform the work due to possibly having other N63 vehicles in the dealer.
mine were done once under warranty at 60,000 miles, again under warranty at 96k . Now at 126k I burn a quart of oil every 800 miles and the quote I got was $4000 for my 550GT
@@tehan2 is it smoking from the tailpipes?
@@unfiltereddad5126. a little, but not crazy. The tell tail sign for seals is let it idle for a bit, and step on the gas, you'll see the plume of white smoke
exactly right. this same thing occurred with me.
114,000 and absolutely zero issues. Love it. Take care of it and it will take care of you.
Thinkin bout getting a 08 750Li what year do you have. I heard 2008 was the best year
@@dabol4423 Personally, I’d stay away from any BMW with a V8 after all of the nightmares I have heard and seen unless you can afford major repairs every once in a while. BMW specializes in inline-6 engines and they use them in the 7 series as well. They are much more reliable.
Nah bro BMWs break down too often get a lexus 💀
@@IIOctaneII they don’t breakdown if you take care of them I have a 2013 bmw 550i 40k miles on it have downpipes, muffler delete, cold air intake, charge pipe, and a jb4 tune. I do maintenance every 5k miles and it has been running fine. I have changed out some engine coils but that’s about it. Car has been running great.. if your cheap and don’t DIY maintenance on your car don’t buy one.
@@yearight1800 yessir well said. I’ve got 135k on mine and it’s starting to make me nervous 😬😂
Crack, coke, or meth? No way this is caffeine.
Wish the guy talked faster couldn't understand him.
Guy is just passionate about the subject.
Lolol
All he needs is a good music producer to get some bests on , lol
Dude, you need to speak faster and more animated!
BMW are enthusiast cars, are not for everyone
They do break, and if you're not DIY inclined you shouldn't buy one
unless new under warranty
@KJ Grey yes
Even if your DIY skills near that of a professional mechanic these engines will take all your time. So many jobs are 11 hour jobs even with a lift. Also there are many parts like bolts etc that are one time use. Other plastic parts break when you touch them. So expect each job to take weeks to complete.
@@michaelbrooks9462 the dealerships are so busy that they usually need a week or so just to schedule a big job. Parts are the next problem, usually something needs to come from Germany and if you are really unlucky they will be on backorder. Sometimes extra parts may be required during the job.
@@michaelbrooks9462 sounds like a good plan. If you build car's etc what is a major issue to most people is going to be nothing to you. At least BMWs are well documented and their computer systems are well hacked for tuning and retrofitting. Not convinced low mileage makes much difference though.
DIY? You still gotta be a damn rocket scientist. So many electronics will break. And that's not mentioning special tools
Have a 550i 4.8....I turn my own wrench and save the money. 247k miles daily driver.... main issues....plastic with heat/cold cycles.....happens with ALL CARS.
learn about your car (whichever manufacture that may be)and yes ALL DEALERS WILL RIP YOU OFF..... If you are a man, Learn to work on your own car.
Nicely said.
Lauren Anderson uh what? the 4.8 N62 V8 in the e60 is horrendous in comparison to the updated 4.4 N63TU in the newer 50i cars. It is literally the worst engine BMW ever made, period. Source: I own and operate a specialist BMW repair shop.
Lauren Anderson there are more recalls on the 4.8... You realize how insane it sounds to trust automotive journalism over the repair industry?
Lauren Anderson add yourself to the list of people who don’t know the difference between an N63 and an N63TU. I don’t have to type anything in on RUclips, I have my hands on both of them every working day of my life. If you want to use stupid words like “Master Tech” then that would be me
Yup thats what I do on my E60 550i sports 4.8 V8. I do as much work I can with the tools I got. I even call my mechanic and he'll tell me how to fix parts. help me save hella money.
Here's a bit of advise from dad, before you buy a used BMW take it to BMW for a presales inspection, will save you a lot of headache from buying someone else's problems.
If you do not know how to do presale inspection yourself than better do not buy it at all because you will need that knowledge while having the car.
KTM backchatting dad will get you grounded 😂
@@ktm640lc4BGD what? That makes no sense....lol
@@rayreggie03 you definitely should not buy an old bmw
I bought my first BMW 750li xdrive. When che has only 30k miles. Still use same car for more than 3 years. NONE ISSUE, mean NONE. Just replace tires. Love this car. Will buy again.
Best way to check the valve stem seals if you're looking to buy one is let it idle for a few minutes and then rev it up , also common on early Ford 4.6 liter engines and some older if they've been neglected.
I have a 2010 750Li. 110k mi. Fantastic car but started using a lot of oil at 75k. I had the car care package done at 60k but not the valve stems. I asked the service manager about it 5 times over the years and was lied to every time until I showed him the lawsuit papers. They then offered me a rebuilt engine but by that time I was going to have to pay 90% of the cost which was $4-5k. It would have cost me $2k if they were honest 3 years earlier. Great cars need expensive maintenance but I can’t tolerate dishonesty.
They just told me mine doesnt qualify and i said well how is that if i have the same engine and now it caught fire im pissed
I own a 07’ 550i 118k miles and it’s been the best car I’ve ever owned. True driving experience. I just had the oil pan gasket & transmission pan go bad and replaced both for $629. Replaced rear tires $450(not by choice one popped) car is no longer leaking, I have the valve stems starting to go bad this repair is very labor intensive and can cost up to 2500 plus depending on where you go. Will fix soon. Just beware and know what you’re getting yourself into BMW’s are not for everyone.
06 650i w/131k on it. Bought it with 70k and the dealership did stem seal repairs. At 110k I had the mechtronic unit and trans filter replaced. Other than that it’s been great.
@DiZZoLabs my 2015 750 i bought in 2020 with 85k miles on it for 14k an ive had not one issue with mines an it now has 105k miles on it
I’ve owned a 2012 750 LI for 2 years, bought it with 70000kms, it now has 100000kms,
I’ve replaced the brakes, battery and tires, it never broke down on me. We also own a 2011 X3, at one point we had an electrical issue that the BMW dealer couldn’t fix... we found a mechanic specialized in German cars, he found the problem, an electrical box, I bought the box on eBay for 150$, he installed it for a reasonable price... my feeling is when buying a used luxurious cars, you must choose one that was well maintained by the previous owner and you must have access to a trustworthy mechanic.
Currently looking at buying a 2012 550xi with 120,000 miles great service records all at a bmw dealership. They are selling it to me for low blue book because it's a family member. What do you think? Safe buy?
I work for bmw and I don't even own one
Damn 😂
Some people work for a brand and not own the car, just to work I guess. Most people I seen working at the dealer have a passion behind the brand they work with.
Well, your not a tech and not in sales, must be a porter, can't afford one. Almost all of us advisors own one.
Zion lords for sure he can
Because he got common sense
I have BMW 750li 2006 and has over 200K miles. Yes, it's challenging, but I fixed by myself. It's a great luxury vehicle to drive.
very good.
I bet he ran his car like he runs his mouth😉
Good for jim. Some cant even speak up when they wife is doing something wrong lol
LOL
bet his mouth is due a service ..
@@mickwalsh12 Well my ears are 😳
Lmao
Same goes for almost any car ..I own a 2011 550i with 130000kms goes like a dream. with no issues.
I got 09 550i Msport, n62 engine with 153k miles, only burns 1qr every 4K, no other issues. I change my oil every 4-5k miles. Best car I’ve had.
249631k as of this very moment on n62 545i Best car ive ever owned. Drive about 1000k miles a week. Do need to replace the valve stems, but not really an issue to me as most of my driving is interstate so even though it does smoke after long idles, i rarely notices it unless im in stop and go traffic.
Ya I have a 2006 550i. Been great bought it with 183k on it has 235k now. Goes thru plugs every 25k or so but they are cheap. Had a few little problems but it's been great. Bought it for 4350.00 three years ago. Just waxed it today has great paint burns zero oil maybe a quart every 10k miles. I have had good luck with BMW 8 cylinders. E39 e60 and a E46 m3. I stopped buying Mercedes because of the abc suspension. Knock on Wood been lucky with high mileage BMWs . Bought the M3 with 163k sold at 193k only had to put a starter in it that I got for 60.00 at the junk yard.
If it's burning a qt every 4k, your valve seals are on their way out. Mine made it to 145k on 5k oil changes. It went from burning nothing, to a qt in 4k, ....then a qt in 2k.....then a qt every 1k......
Steven Otto I meant I loose 1 quart, but then I found a oil leak from my oil plug and brake pump.
The problem BMW v8’s are the 2010-2012 n63 and the 2007-2013 S65 in the M3. All other BMW V8’s are reliable.
I got a x5 50i and I'm a mechanic. It's a combination of valve stems seals and guides. Do both... the guides will run you a lot more money due to removing the heads to replace.
Damn bro slow down 🤦🏾♂️
I have had many bmw's, mostly older e34 e36 e46 e39's and some from new to 450,000kms no major issues. My x5 11 has had coolant plastics on turbo coolant lines crack, starter failure, vacuum pump and valve cover gasket at 70,000kms. But what a nice car to drive. We don't have the care package in Europe but seems we have way less issues than US market. Change oil every 10,000kms and i heard some still does not have valve stem seal issues at almost 200,000kms. You always hear about the faults and not the ones running good (hope there are 🤣) of which there must be thousands
Hello, does "Customer Care Program" covert 2011 550i had only 30,000 km on it ? any help would be appreciated. thanks.
Had my 2012 535i for almost 3 years. Love it so much and no major repairs have been needed *knocks on dash* I’m currently at 74,000 miles
So glad I stuck with the mostly mechanical E39!
I really enjoyed this video, very informative.
I want to know what oil was ran in these engines. Was the service done at BMW or some quicky lube place?
He's got that radio voice.... these cars do seem to have a lot of issues... I have 2 of them 745li's and they are some fine running cars when they are running... they could've made them a little easier to work on and program... seems like anything that goes wrong you must take it to a bmw dealer or certified bmw mechanic... either way you gotta have some deep pockets to drive and own one...
Definitely a face for radio lol
That applies to almost every car that boasts its power, including, eh, the CLS.
Come on man, 7 series are ultra luxury cars and come with ultra luxury price tag. Ownership would have been a lot easier if you had 3 series, preferably with 6 cylinder n/a engine
That’s why most people lease them then bail like hell after 2 years under full warranty. In the used market there’s an ocean of 750is and Audi A8s around 50000-60000 miles.
Truly dumb comment.
fastboatster nah it’s bmw it’s bullshit. I’ve owned one worse decision. Fun to drive tho
BMW I6 engine like N55 is way more stable than original N63， the N63tu fixed a lot of problems already. I have a 2014 550i with the newer engine doesn't have that much problems, but it still cost a lot for upkeep.
Daiwei Bi I drive the N63TU and never had a problem in the 50,000km (31,000 miles) I’ve owned it. Great engine, probably the best I’ve owned and driven. But yes, will cost to fix, that goes with the territory!
If you watch the video at about half the speed you can actually understand this dude.
I 100%! Agree with this! I own an E65 730I 2006 I am so happy I own the N52B30, I called a BMW mechanic before buying and they said stay well clear of the V8 BMWs, my next 7 series will either be a 2014 740li or 2010 760li but staying well clear of an 8! Cost wise in AUS $2,000 for its 11 months including tyres ($500 each for two rears), battery ($700) , (270 for a fault code check), now service of 600-700 for oil, oil filter, air filter and cabin filter and labour! So yeah that’s my years review the cost of an 730!
My 2010 BMW 750i xDrive with N63 has treated me great over past 3 years or so. Bought used with NO warranty, had 36k miles on it. Now has 53k miles. I change my own oil every 9 months since it’s not my daily driver and I drive it about 6k miles a year. I have had a few minor issues. Driver door lock would stick and not open when weather got cold. A few days of research led me to the remedy of spraying lubricant on locking mechanism. Never had issue again. Also I do have to add a quart of oil every 2-3k miles. That’s about it. Other routine maintenance has cost me around 900 over past 3 years. I understand that many people don’t have success but a few bad apples shouldn’t spoil the bunch. Do your research and grab the car fax and call the service shops that have done service. As with ANY used car you buy, buy with the fewest owners possible, lowest miles possible, and best service records possible. Expensive full sized luxury cars are not made to be a daily drivers. That might be the problem with most of the bad reviews.
Is that u BMW salesman lol
Kobe theGOAT haha, I’ve never sold cars, but I don’t like when people are giving unfair or unsubstantiated data. Anyone who buys a full size luxury car or an exotic and expects to drive it daily and not have problems are delusional. They are not meant to be everyday driven cars. I will say that for BMW, Maserati, or any other luxury car...
@@christianphillips1051 so all those expensive repairs just to drive on the weekend sound dumb and u taking up for these greedy pigs
@@christianphillips1051 you must not have had a Lexus LS. MOST RELIABLE CAR ON THE PLANET.
@@christianphillips1051 The 550, and 750 are surely meant to be daily drivers.
Thank you for letting us know. Where or how can I find out more about it? I own a 2013 750xli.
I'm surprised he never took one breath at all for this vid. kudos
I had 2 S63 BMW V8s and they were very reliable to 96k mikes and 104k miles before I sold them. The N63s had issues, but were addressed with the N63tu.
Currently looking at buying a 2012 550xi with 120,000 miles great service records all at a bmw dealership. They are selling it to me for low blue book because it's a family member. What do you think? Safe buy?
great info and great presentation
I’m planning on getting a 550 2014 or 2015 do those also carry all these problems 😔😢
This man is a legend gave me the news I can use very short and simple
🙌🏼🙌🏼
How do I get them to do the work
I really enjoyed your commentary! Cheers
If you’re going to buy a used 750i then get one as I did...34,000km (21,000 miles) from a single owner (a Chairman of a reputable company) who literally drove freeway miles and kept it in excellent condition. Ask the seller who owned it previously...you can usually get the name off the BMW Privileges card that came with the car (that itself is valid for 7 years!) Google the owner, or call them to find out the cars history.
Also, try to get the N63B44O1 (2012 - 2015), the updated version. That benefited from the addition of Valvetronic and several other revisions, with a modest power lift to 445 HP and 650 NM of torque. It was known as the F01 LCI. That ironed out all the issues faced by the first generation N63B44O0 power plant.
A gem of a motor and I’ve had no issues. Not even a hint.
You just bought a dud, spent your hard earned cash fixing it, and then on-sold it. Why not keep it and enjoy the car once you’ve made it mechanically sound? The next purchaser would have been happy!
James R cause he spent like 5 grand and still needed the valves repaired. Classic BM
what do you think of a 2014 bmw 550i with 35,000 km is the same? I read that 2014 has a more power
I bought an 08 BMW 550i v8 360hp. I love my BMW V8. It was not serviced properly and had a major leak from the valley pan gasket and reservoir which the “mechanic” who sold me the car lied about. He said there was no leaks. I did all the labor myself but I demanded a refund for 200$ parts and got the car for 6200$ with 140k miles and transmission used with 50k put in. After all that work I did and a fresh coolant with blue bmw coolant and an oil change with filter the bmw is running absolutely great. I disagree with the title but the average Joe who has not tools or can’t work on there car I agree NEVER BUY A V8 BMW if you can’t turn a wrench and preform any service yourself
Huge problem with the n63b4400 design. The exhaust manifolds are located to the center line of the engine looking one at the other, having each one a turbo on top. Come on! The amount of heat both manifolds and turbos put together is epic!, it violate any logical solution on trying to disperse heat instead of concentrating it. The hood works as a parabollic heater irradiating very hard all the way down causing abnormal oil comsumption, premature gaskets, belts and seals failure. Plastic reservoirs and other elements crack and melt. The fan continues working for very long after turning off the engine causing frequent drained batteries. But the problems dont stop there. We all know DI engines are prone to admission valves carbon cloaks. In some engines like the mazda skyactiv g 2.5 its very common tomhave and admission port cleanup every 30,000 miles, a work that is more or less simple because the admission manifold es very accesible. On the n63 this problem goes into new levels. Due to the the very high temperatures on this engine oil evaporates quicker and recycles by the pvc more frequently, this added to the exhaust gases inside the turbo escaping and going into the admission chamber because of seals failure (again, due to the inherently high temperatures in this engine) produce massive admission valves cloaks at very low millage as 10,000. Cleaning them is another story, you have two blocks to work on, have to remove the air to liquid intercooler and work in a very uncomfortable position, a us 1600 bill you will see quite often. Why do they put the exhaust manifolds that way?, in order to reduce the intercooler piping complexity and get higher turbo pressures almost at the gate of th exhaust manifold. This design could work well in an f1 car where the engine is almost outside venting well or inside a mid engine vehicle where you can locate huge vent scoops and disperse the heat to the back but is a complete mess in a front location. The only partial solution i can see is to opnen a hole on top of the hood, locate huge side vents on front fenders and a couple of oil catch cans. I have driven a 5 series with this engine for a couple of hours pushing it hard only for a while. Ok, magnificent ride, very serious power, excellent shifting, excellent brakes but steering doesnt give enough control feeling and the temperature, uffff, you can fry an egg and bacon on that hood. This cars sold new for +_ us 90,000 in my country, you can find very few miles ones ( less than 30,000) for around 40,000 us$ which could be consider as a bargain but most frequent bmw buyers are very aware of this engine problems and avoid it paying quite the same for any model with a six in line turbo.
Gg
I have a 7 series with the N62 and never had a problem with the engine or transmission at all but I have had problems with the radio and amp going out..
Year and mileage?
TruAgape1234 08 750li with rear entertainment
TruAgape1234 140k
carfaxts daily are you the first owner? How was it driven?
@Bald Get'n Buggered my 750li transmission went at 120000
I am thinking to buy the 730d. What is your opinion?
I bought an 09 for 5,500 and had to replace the rear air suspension and valve seals,i Iive by an automotive school ,my car got accepted and all I had to pay was for parts.
What do you think about the 2001 740 i/il. Due tell
Very informative video thank u sir. I’m in the market for a 550xi I feel much more comfortable after this, thanks for helping me down the rabbit hole!
We have a 550 igt and it's amazing has issues we can't figure out tho
Currently looking at buying a 2012 550xi with 120,000 miles great service records all at a bmw dealership. They are selling it to me for low blue book because it's a family member. What do you think? Safe buy?
Boy has it been a while since I watched this video. I ended up going with a 535xi and have been beyond happy. Super fast and reliable enough if you fix everything up in a used model
Edit:always the first year of ownership will be the most expensive, after that it gets drastically easier
@@MikeWazowski499 That's cool. Does yours have the inline 6 cylinder engine?
Is it the same engine in the 2005 545i?
What year is your bmw 750? Thank you
What about the 2005 model? Does that have same problems?
Just get a Lexus and save yourself the headaches. DUH
Because BMW makes more than one model
Strictly Lexus for me. No more BMW.
Unless you are a grandpa driving Lexus is no fun. They are slow, not composed, feel cheap and of subpar quality of interior, so why bother? Because they are reliable? Or because your standards and expectations about a car you drive are so low???
lexus is no fun
rcf, isf, lc500 : are we a joke to you?
Lexus is a boring car to drive, even V8 Lexus sucks.
2001 Bmw 740i E38 sport package M62 is the BEST and RELIABLE engine ,the 4.4 L V8 282 horsepower is POWERFUL...thats why range rover bought this engine from bmw...2003 range rovers have the M62 engine
@Richard Skipper LY7? Lmao my dude that thing is a POS and I'm driving it.
n63 < n63tu This is what happens when you don't research your cars before buying. Carfax and calling a dealer is free, they will tell you if services have been performed.
Quick question. If the engine has been fixed in the BMW Customer Care program, is it then all good or will the same problems come again? Thanks
The only issue you might have is adding a quart of oil every 5k miles, that's all, it's an excellent engine
How much did u sell urs mine is smoking 545i I want to know how much I can sell it for
I'm impulsive AF and even I did research prior to purchase and knew to avoid N62-N63 model years. N63TU still has issues but not as bad (I say as the owner of a CPO 650i Gran Coupe which made it TWENTY MINUTES from leaving the lot before "Drivetrain Malfunction". 8 coil packs and injectors later and we be good as new!)
RUclipsr question... how much time did you spend cutting this before publication. You have great cuts and flash info screens. I know that's not easy to do. Do you use a third party software? Thanks. Just Sub'd you.
Question Witch model are you prefer E65 745i (178000 km) or F10 750i (110000 km ) ?
Horseshit!! BMW told me oh well on fixing the issues on my 750. 7300 to change a turbo, 2600 for plugs and injectors. And then told me I needed to rebuild the top half for 11k. Never again will I own another
Jason Stewart what do you own now?
Byron Hatcher he drives a Kia Forte
“Waaaaahhh my BMW is expensive because the only place I take it for service is the dealer!!!” Sorry bud unless you like bragging about maintenance costs like so many people do (strangely), your comment is horseshit. Go to any independent BMW shop, they are well qualified and familiar with these engines. At my shop the bill for all of the things you just mentioned would be under $4500 and you’d have a car that runs like new.
My 09 750Li is at BMW now having the valve stem seals replaced now - at BMWs cost - because it was using a quart of oil every 1000 miles. It had just come out of service for replacement of the crank case vent lines.
How many miles do you have Cary? I'm at 97k and mine is at the dealer now. I hope they do it for cost.
Cary Coller how do I i quiry
Thank you for knowing exactly what you’re talking about. Everything was exact.. I’m currently replacing basically everything in the top end of an N62 v8 right now. So far this is the list of parts that are being replaced.
Valve guide seals, valve cover gasket and associated seals. Spark plug domes, timing chain cover gaskets, vanos orings, vacuum pump seals, spark plugs, a single coil pack, coolant transfer pipe and associates seals, valley pan gasket, a Y shaped plastic piece and coolant hose on the top side beneath the intake manifold, intake manifold gaskets, bank 2 knock sensors. I had to buy a few specialty tools. Coolant pressure kit. Cylinder leak down kit, valve spring compression kit, timing alignment kit. Oh it’s scary. I have to take out the camshafts and then readjust the timing.
And I think that’s it. I decided to knock out all the cars known issues in one go. This is a 2006 550i so anybody thinking of getting one.. don’t. Be prepared to spend money and know how to work on it. If the above mentioned work was being done in any shop it would be way upwards of 10 thousand dollars. I’m nearly done now with all the work. All parts are here and I should have it running by the weekend. These cars are a lot of fun to drive. Especially the n62/n63 because they really have some power. I’ve spent maybe a thousand dollars. On the above parts and tools.
that really is the way to go, i wished i would have done some research instead of chasing almost every issue you described as they kept coming up
I own a 2011 750 Li M Sport. Had the customer care package (Recall) Had valve stem replaced,
$2K at 108k miles, car died, had to replace engine $16K, week later turbo $2300, day later charcoal csnnister,$460, 3 days later HP fuel pump, month later, the other turbo $2300, 3 days later, LP fuel pump. $1900. Also trunk switch not working, night vision not working, curtain in back broke, drivers door sensor not working
I have a 2012 N63 7er. I know it will randomly blow up at some point, but I love the old girl. She'll destroy 98% of cars on the road, sounds like a beast and looks like a boss. All whilst being silky smooth and safe to boot.
Bought my 2011 550i manual transmission at 87k miles, 1.5 years later still not broken a single thing other than one coolant pipe that was leaking, cost 500 to fix, but that's it. No other repair costs other than oil changes every 5k miles
Why didn't you use the program for your 7 series in stead of getting rid of it? I just bout a 2012 and I'm little nervous here, hearing all the problems the car has. I didnt do my research. If u can give me any information on the program that would b great
I just bought a 2009 and now I'm nervous
Program wasn’t available at the time
Exactly. If you have no idea how to work on cars DO NOT buy N62 or N63. BUT if you are a DIY guy with a garage and will to spend some time under the hood than DO BUY these engines. I have 2004 X5 4.8iS with N62 engine last 6 years and I would recommend it to DIY people. And yes, preventive maintenance is the key, but so is for any other engine.
Took my 2011 750 to my dealership and they did $8,000 worth of repairs and it didn’t cost me a dime. I’m the second owner and it had 91,000 miles on it. Only issue I had was smoking and burning oil, but they fixed it FREE!!
Loranzo Lashley it was covered under the oil consumption recall
@@bartlawhorn2762 my wife brought hers used. First owner opted out on recall, so bmw wont fix it. Options?
blackadondemory doesn’t matter. We’re the second owner and they fixed it free.
I have the 2014 550i xdrive is that still a bad year
You forgot that.....the twin turbo location also causes them to heat or over heat
Your ability to repeat yourself so well means that I keep thinking the video is on loop. Nice talk though enjoyed the video.
“Oh my car was serviced every 15k miles” that’s definitely too far in between routine services. You shouldn’t be suprised if the engine grenades itself
Had the 550i F10 driven over 100k (57k - 182k) kilometers and had never issues...and now got the M550i G30 and its a dream car meanwhile. It always depends how you treat the cars. I just can recommend when you now how to maintain.
I’m buy n a 1 owner 2004 545i 6spd
This weekend. Garage kept Ect.
Is this recall available for that car by chance thnx for any other info
J Marie I f I were you don’t I bought one last month nothing but problems I’m going to sell it for a e60 with a v6
Easy to work n for most part valve seals are a bit tricky. This car as been a garage kept BMW serviced baby. It will look good with the wifes x6 that’s 35i tho much more reliable.
X5 E70 2007-2008 has N62B48 engine and after 2009 puts N63. My question is why we cannot put N62B48 in F01/F02?
Which one is more reliable ? Porsche Cayenne 4.5 S V8 x Mercedes ML 500 2006 or Volkswagen Touareg 4.2 V8 1st Gen. I want to buy one of them. Greetings from Brazil.
2004 model year e66 735li 745li included?
I've read a lot of the comments and replies and a lot of you, I have no idea where you get these numbers from of labor times and cost of tools and how long it takes the longest part of the whole class action suit is the testing as per the sib and waiting for BMW to respond with approval. The job its self takes on average three days and a day of QC . If you want to know if its guides, let it idle 20 min and then smash the throttle, if you see smoke from the exhaust, you have a very strong chance of guides being replaced at no charge. Key words to the advisor are " it smokes out the exhaust when I take off from a stop" and " its using a lot of oil " advisors will trip over themselves to get to you.trust me, I'm one of them.
Hello Nic,
We own a 2015 BMW X5 Xdrive50i, it still has the oil burn problem and the engine will fail at 60000 miles, I will say that you could update the video, thanks.
Yes, let's make a rule over an exception. Good idea.
So this doesnt count for the 2014+ models with 449 hp?
Well I’m interested in buying the 650i which has the N63 engine (4.4 V8). It’s a 2011 production year car. Should I buy it?
Do not do it. Stay away from the N63. Those failures are not covererd by warranty.
If you buy from a non bmw dealer is a used 2012 bmw 650i without warranty fall under this customer care program?
Just reading these comments. The cult-like following for BMW is insanely mind blowing. BMW being incapable of building a car that don't have to be serviced every other week is common knowledge. These quacks will always make excuses, and never accept the fact that Bimmers have been historically unreliable. Excellent vid.
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@@MisterMili Good catch.
I just bought a used 2008 750li with 88k miles on it only one owner before me and he lived in California so the car has never seen winter or salt. I live in Ohio and was wondering how long it will last me ? I paid $10k
2010 750i xdrive 111k miles. Im like you once were new & know nothing but I love this car.
What should I worry about ? Yea or nay ?
Great video. A thousand words a second lol but very informative
Was the S63 any better? I'm considering a 2014 X6M.
It's actually worst try getting anything 2013 and up
S63 AMG?
Thanks for the info!!!! Love your energy brother!!!!
My 2006 550i is a v8 4.8l with 120k miles on it still runs just like the day I bought it
Damn you scared me with this video
my 06 550i manual trans has 175k miles and runs like new.. one of my favorite cars ....
Currently looking at buying a 2012 550xi with 120,000 miles great service records all at a bmw dealership. They are selling it to me for low blue book because it's a family member. What do you think? Safe buy?
@@strangeclouds7 I'd have to see it but it sounds good to me.. drive it and see how you like it.
@@ListerMotorsports For sure thanks
This guy has great voice commentary voice amazing vocals bless to you 👌
I had the 04 7 series. With 60 grand on the odometer. Thank God I bought the extended warranty. Bad valve stems and the seal to the coolant pipe. 9 grand later it was all fixed up. Luckily not out of my pocket
Seyer Selaznog how often did it smoke??was it during idle or what??
E70 X550i. 65k miles. Motor is out at local dealer under this package. They have had it for a month now....
Update. Got it back. Had it for 150 miles before cooling system failed. Just had it towed back to dealer.
Nick Lievore Sorry to hear that.
I bought one with a misfire. Spark plugs change isn’t that bad. Idk how all those other problems occur.
What about the 2016 and up model??
I got mine aat 88k and its at 102k and had it for 4 months and no issues but a leaking coolant hose T Connector , who makes plastic T conncectors tho.
I own two 7series.....never had any issues in ten years of ownership
Destiny Achieved liar
Destiny Achieved even Stevie wonder knows you damn liar.
Straight lying
I’m sorry but based on what you said I don’t believe you’ve ever owned any BMW.
@@iROLL24 Ok
Great video! Damn you talk fast! Now I need to go watch the “Weird Arby’s guy” video.
From 2016 bmw 750i looks like they solved the issues right?
ive seen some videos where they say they did eventually correct the heat and gasket factors