@@prettyjey3818Mourinho did more than anyone after him. Unfortunately he seems to lose the dressing room time and time again. In Porto, Chelsea (except his last season there) and Inter, he had the whole team aligned with him.
No manager in post Sir Alex finished 8th minus goal difference and bottom of champions league group by giving the most goals by English in the history of the champions league.
We are playing tomorrow yet everyone is just discussing about us. Discuss about arsenal and mancity loses also. I keep saying we are the biggest club on earth only that we are not performing. I believe Manchester United can generate half a trillion a year if performance is great and consistent. Manchester United fans globally like to spend on their club whether in the UK or overseas. We love our club so much but the morale of spending on the club has gone down due to poor performances. Others can even pay top dollar to just hold a trophy that we won together with a Manchester United player who has just won it or a legend of the club. Some can have an entire clothing line of Manchester United kits like the Indian multi millionaire featured in the documentary about inequality in India.
In my opinion I think what cause Ten Hag is job is lack of communication skill with the players and lack of competition in every position, because no position under his management is under threat.
He has the players eating lunch together everyday at Sporting Portugal, I don’t know if that will happen at united, but it’s a good way to bring the players together “where one goes everyone goes” is the quote
“He brought us a donut midfield” That donut midfield was there well before Ten Hag joined. It was a well known criticism of Ole’s tactics. The problem is that Bruno, as good as he is, loves to push forward and abandon his midfield duties. I love Bruno but I don’t think he can fix that part of his game. We need a better more disciplined midfield maestro.
Everyone turns a blind eye to Bruno specially because of his goals and assists but the problems remain… . As the number 10 his overall composure and style affects the whole team a lot. He’s definitely one of those players who’s departure has the potential to change the team a lot
You have it completely backwards, he's not receiving the ball in dangerous areas so when you do see him lose the ball its in transition or build up not in the final third.
why people only asking about if Amorim is a risk that he has not coached in the premier league, i remember Klopp ], Pep and a host of others coming in the premier league with no prior experience there and doing excellent.
I think pundits just talk because they like their voices sometimes. This job has eluded Mournho, van Gaal, world class managers. The fact is he needed more time and to suggest all his players were garbage? Martinez, great, the keeper is looking very much a United keeper this season, commanding his defense, good choice. Hojlund, Ugarte and Zirkzee have barley had time to adapt and coming into an underplaying club is not easy. In all fairness ive seen United create chance after chance and fail to score, plagued by injuries, the mood was down, heads were down and sadly it just ran out for Ten Hag, but I think his overall work and quality of the players showed quite clearly when Ruud took over and the shock was enough to wake them up a little. Its not that Ruud suddenly changed them into this, its that they were always capable of it, always close to turning the corner but just couldnt get that belief and confidence and luck. These last 4 results proved one thing, that Ten Hag was right, his team were indeed very close to delivering, sadly he wasnt around for it to happen. Its very very harsh and ignorant to slam him like that when it was his team, playing his tactics that delivered in the last games, Ruud only gave them motivation and indeed playing for their futures gave them motivation. Ten Hag will feel vindication watching his team play th way he always believed they could. Its sad but life goes on and the next man has inherited a lot of work done by ten Hag in stopping the rot.
Man United took too long to sack him. Same with Arsenal, taking too long to sack Arteta. You need to act fast and have vision, it is clear the change shoulve been made much earlier. Ruben Amorim is great but will find the team and club in the middle of a chaos
Would have been great for him to finish this season and try to defend his title. Gain more experience in champions league. That way van Nistelrooy would gain experience too. It's not going to go worse than right now
The pressure is far more huge when it comes into united things...the toxic Environment... Players, pundits... United is the hottest job on the world.. Even Klopp and Guardiola reject the United job.. Only brave manager who willing to take the Job..
No legacy?? EtH has two winners medals and will always be in our team's history. He snapped a 6 year streak with no medals, while even legends of the club like Rooney only has 1 FA cup medal so don't write off the accomplishment. 3 finals in 2 years with 2 wins, and he will always be known as the guy who brought through Mainoo and Garnacho if they go on to have the career we know they are capable of. It's no premier league or CL but he surely has a legacy and will be remembered by the utd fans for his accomplishments.
You've made a decent point about Ten Hag. But why did you have to go and muck it up with that disaster of a comment about Rooney? He's one of the most highly decorated players in the history of English football.😂
Man Utd got the appointment of ten hag completely wrong,he was not the right candidate for the jobWhen he came to old Trafford everyone thought he would bring attacking and attractive football and take Man Utd back to its glory days,but he lost his first two games and went into shell,trying to search for results/win rather than implementing a playing philosophy,on the other hand ,liverpool under Arne Slot who is also Dutch are going great guns,he hit the ground running without many signings
Cant really compare the two though Man United transfer business has been terrible since Sir Alex , the Team ETH inherited was not at the same level, Arne Slot inherited of Klopp, the only thing similar are that they are both Dutch
Now it's coming out that he wanted (even though we already knew) Kane, MacAllister and DeJong. Instead he got Casemiro and Antony (while Ajax trolled United on the deal). If he had those 3 signings, surely at a minimum, midfield and goal scoring situation would be different. My point is United needed an overhaul big time when Ten Hag came. De Gea played SAF FFS! Spending that money was necessary, but at the same time, THE MANAGER DOES NOT MAKE THE DEALS OR NEGOTIATE FEES. Blame the management for Antony. In fact, United overpaid for Bruno by 20 million, but I'm sure you don't even know that.
Ten hag couldn't get the best out of players,couldn't improve them much or make them perform/function at an optimal level week in,week out.His team selection,strategy,substitutions on matchdays didn't work on many occasions and the team produced inconsistent performance/results.Even the matches United won they didn't look convincing or in control of games.
The only identity after SAF was when Ole was manager. Always easier to get rid of managers than players. It is all about the money which I do not begrudge
NBC's coverage is actually pretty solid overall. So many networks have absolute muppets who say ridiculous things for clicks. NBC keeps things mostly professional and sensible.
This club can have Pep, Klopp, Zidane, Ancelotti and the greatest managers ever but as long as they have Shaw, rashford, anthony, dalot, and the players ten hag bought, they will keep on falling. I give Amorim till the end of the season or maybe 2 or 3 months earlier for those players to start turning on him. This is the cycle of life at man utd.
We've been Watching Man Utd since England's mens last success to justify our comments. We appreciated success only if you do your homework to justify your progress & bring in the necessary depth to justify a 65+ games season. Winning those cups indicates his a moments manager meaning he's not a serious manager, not a Man Utd type. EtH had not earned the right to be our long term Manager cos right now he's been messing Up due to his lack of adapting & limited approach to the job & his undermining of the youth policy, due to poor In-game management so his Job was definitely under review due to his underperformance as Manager of our Club in the time he has been there so there's was room for improvement. To Us EtH deserved the Sack cos he lost against West Ham 2-1! If the decision was up to Us we would have let him go after the FA Cup win. To Us he'll go down as the worst manager we've experienced ahead of Mourinho for 60 years since SMB. Good riddance. Keep it in the family!
We want to be challenging for the league & Europa league this season but EtH is a moments manager & lacks people skills to take charge of our club. Man Utd's Ineos chose the 'Joker' Eric Ten Hag cos of the 5min fans (anyone under 30) & flip-flop fan Base! If it was up to Us we would vet or ban the 5min fans & FlipFlop fans & send them to SkyNet Etihad! SAF way & Ole way is the Man Utd way. We prefer Ole otherwise Amorim or Zidane can do a better Job for Us for the long-term! Keep it in the family,
If all pundits are like Tim, I think I’d watch these outlets more
Facts
Bro came, won trophies and got sacked before Arteta won anything 😭🙏🏽
He's a legend
To be fair Arteta does have an FA Cup.
😂😂😂😂😂
He is the most successful coach post sir Alex with two trophies
Mourinho also won 2. Just saying
@@ianthrasher471Europa league bigger than FA cup, so Mou is the best since sir Alex
@@prettyjey3818Mourinho did more than anyone after him. Unfortunately he seems to lose the dressing room time and time again. In Porto, Chelsea (except his last season there) and Inter, he had the whole team aligned with him.
@@JMPovoasomeone once said mourinho treats the player right, but not the person
No manager in post Sir Alex finished 8th minus goal difference and bottom of champions league group by giving the most goals by English in the history of the champions league.
It's Sporting Clube de PORTUGAL, not Sporting Lisbon!
Robbie Earle is the best pundit I have ever heard speak on the game.
We are playing tomorrow yet everyone is just discussing about us.
Discuss about arsenal and mancity loses also.
I keep saying we are the biggest club on earth only that we are not performing.
I believe Manchester United can generate half a trillion a year if performance is great and consistent.
Manchester United fans globally like to spend on their club whether in the UK or overseas. We love our club so much but the morale of spending on the club has gone down due to poor performances.
Others can even pay top dollar to just hold a trophy that we won together with a Manchester United player who has just won it or a legend of the club.
Some can have an entire clothing line of Manchester United kits like the Indian multi millionaire featured in the documentary about inequality in India.
United pay the pills
Robbie Earle is immaculate around the neck, that's how to look in a shirt and tie.
The best pundits have heard speak for a long long time
In my opinion I think what cause Ten Hag is job is lack of communication skill with the players and lack of competition in every position, because no position under his management is under threat.
That's right luck of communication
He has the players eating lunch together everyday at Sporting Portugal, I don’t know if that will happen at united, but it’s a good way to bring the players together “where one goes everyone goes” is the quote
“He brought us a donut midfield”
That donut midfield was there well before Ten Hag joined. It was a well known criticism of Ole’s tactics. The problem is that Bruno, as good as he is, loves to push forward and abandon his midfield duties. I love Bruno but I don’t think he can fix that part of his game. We need a better more disciplined midfield maestro.
Everyone turns a blind eye to Bruno specially because of his goals and assists but the problems remain… .
As the number 10 his overall composure and style affects the whole team a lot. He’s definitely one of those players who’s departure has the potential to change the team a lot
Bruno is our weakness
He's more of a second striker we saw it in his first 2 seasons
You have it completely backwards, he's not receiving the ball in dangerous areas so when you do see him lose the ball its in transition or build up not in the final third.
Erik Ten Hag probably divided the fans more than any other manager in uniteds recent history. For better or worse, I’m relieved it’s over.
why people only asking about if Amorim is a risk that he has not coached in the premier league, i remember Klopp ], Pep and a host of others coming in the premier league with no prior experience there and doing excellent.
“He had the opportunity to walk on sand as a Manchester United manager, but when you look back he left no footprint”. What a quote
Utd should now buy the best and most motivated players in the world and stop paying millions for underperforming players
I think pundits just talk because they like their voices sometimes. This job has eluded Mournho, van Gaal, world class managers. The fact is he needed more time and to suggest all his players were garbage? Martinez, great, the keeper is looking very much a United keeper this season, commanding his defense, good choice. Hojlund, Ugarte and Zirkzee have barley had time to adapt and coming into an underplaying club is not easy. In all fairness ive seen United create chance after chance and fail to score, plagued by injuries, the mood was down, heads were down and sadly it just ran out for Ten Hag, but I think his overall work and quality of the players showed quite clearly when Ruud took over and the shock was enough to wake them up a little. Its not that Ruud suddenly changed them into this, its that they were always capable of it, always close to turning the corner but just couldnt get that belief and confidence and luck. These last 4 results proved one thing, that Ten Hag was right, his team were indeed very close to delivering, sadly he wasnt around for it to happen. Its very very harsh and ignorant to slam him like that when it was his team, playing his tactics that delivered in the last games, Ruud only gave them motivation and indeed playing for their futures gave them motivation. Ten Hag will feel vindication watching his team play th way he always believed they could. Its sad but life goes on and the next man has inherited a lot of work done by ten Hag in stopping the rot.
Whats scary is that if it works out
He could easily stay for 35 years
Man United took too long to sack him. Same with Arsenal, taking too long to sack Arteta. You need to act fast and have vision, it is clear the change shoulve been made much earlier. Ruben Amorim is great but will find the team and club in the middle of a chaos
Ten Hag is a world class coach
NBC is the best of the best
This is EPL not an easy task for Coach’s . Let’s see
No disrespect but Tim Howard didn't leave much of a legacy himself at United 💀
It's an outrageous statement. How rude.
Replacing Barthez is enough of a legacy for me. Replacing a clown lol
Ten Hag's legacy will always be that 7-0 defeat at Anfield.
That music 😂
yep 24 season 3
The music got an upgrade
A reason why Liverpool looked no further. A risk but anyone is better than ten hag. It’s the Portuguese league for goodness sake and the
Would have been great for him to finish this season and try to defend his title. Gain more experience in champions league. That way van Nistelrooy would gain experience too. It's not going to go worse than right now
Whats happens if they play really well under Ruud, then amorim comes in and the results dont go their way?
He left a mark. Critics.
2 cups an you say he’s done nothing?
Compare that to arteta
The pressure is far more huge when it comes into united things...the toxic Environment... Players, pundits... United is the hottest job on the world.. Even Klopp and Guardiola reject the United job.. Only brave manager who willing to take the Job..
No legacy??
EtH has two winners medals and will always be in our team's history. He snapped a 6 year streak with no medals, while even legends of the club like Rooney only has 1 FA cup medal so don't write off the accomplishment. 3 finals in 2 years with 2 wins, and he will always be known as the guy who brought through Mainoo and Garnacho if they go on to have the career we know they are capable of.
It's no premier league or CL but he surely has a legacy and will be remembered by the utd fans for his accomplishments.
You've made a decent point about Ten Hag. But why did you have to go and muck it up with that disaster of a comment about Rooney?
He's one of the most highly decorated players in the history of English football.😂
Luck of communication was the reason tenhag failed
Goodness it took Man U that long to decide with Ten Haag. I think the disaster at the club is by design.
Put ten hag in that arsenal team an he will win the league
Imagine if they did ! The rivalry will be more intense and a scary fixture.
RA will be the mamager of CR7, hot young talent in Sporting Liston goes to Manchester United and become the best.
Man Utd got the appointment of ten hag completely wrong,he was not the right candidate for the jobWhen he came to old Trafford everyone thought he would bring attacking and attractive football and take Man Utd back to its glory days,but he lost his first two games and went into shell,trying to search for results/win rather than implementing a playing philosophy,on the other hand ,liverpool under Arne Slot who is also Dutch are going great guns,he hit the ground running without many signings
Cant really compare the two though Man United transfer business has been terrible since Sir Alex , the Team ETH inherited was not at the same level, Arne Slot inherited of Klopp, the only thing similar are that they are both Dutch
Comparing ten hag situation to arne slot shows how clueless you are
He was right but then Glazers decided to sell the club stability is gone.. INEOS came in sporting control and they bought their own head coach..
Now it's coming out that he wanted (even though we already knew) Kane, MacAllister and DeJong. Instead he got Casemiro and Antony (while Ajax trolled United on the deal). If he had those 3 signings, surely at a minimum, midfield and goal scoring situation would be different. My point is United needed an overhaul big time when Ten Hag came. De Gea played SAF FFS! Spending that money was necessary, but at the same time, THE MANAGER DOES NOT MAKE THE DEALS OR NEGOTIATE FEES. Blame the management for Antony. In fact, United overpaid for Bruno by 20 million, but I'm sure you don't even know that.
Ten hag couldn't get the best out of players,couldn't improve them much or make them perform/function at an optimal level week in,week out.His team selection,strategy,substitutions on matchdays didn't work on many occasions and the team produced inconsistent performance/results.Even the matches United won they didn't look convincing or in control of games.
Yall mf said this before
Do the media talk this long about other managers that leave clubs?? I don’t think so! What does it matter know
i prefer manager to head coach, but guess u gotta go with the flow these days.
Rashford will throw him under the bus
Man united will be all gas no brakes now!
The only identity after SAF was when Ole was manager. Always easier to get rid of managers than players. It is all about the money which I do not begrudge
Good pundits unlike espn fc and sky
So CR7 was right about Ten Haag all along… 🤔
Cr7 is a baby and only thinks about himself 1st. (utd fan)
A broken clock is right twice a day
@@markrobertson8323 stop watching sopranos lol
It's not as if CR7 won the PL with Ole as the manager.
There were bigger structural problems which was evident in the fact they had to bring him back
United make 2 wrong decisions first bringing Ronaldo back to the club, and second hiring Eric ten hag
Pity Sky dont have two sensible pundits like these two instead of some of the muppets thay have now.
Tim Howard is sensible?? HAHHAHA. He wrote an article on the Daily Mail trashing Amorim appointment
@mimikolomamu I don't get too see these two on a regular basis. Can only go on what I've just seen.
NBC's coverage is actually pretty solid overall. So many networks have absolute muppets who say ridiculous things for clicks. NBC keeps things mostly professional and sensible.
This club can have Pep, Klopp, Zidane, Ancelotti and the greatest managers ever but as long as they have Shaw, rashford, anthony, dalot, and the players ten hag bought, they will keep on falling. I give Amorim till the end of the season or maybe 2 or 3 months earlier for those players to start turning on him. This is the cycle of life at man utd.
He was a 🤡, period.
Ten Hag's legacy will be determined by how the players he brought in do under Amorim.
can yall stop it with united already? im a united fan and sky keeps talking about united, quite annoying.
Why? Its what generates views.
We've been Watching Man Utd since England's mens last success to justify our comments.
We appreciated success only if you do your homework to justify your progress & bring in the necessary depth to justify a 65+ games season. Winning those cups indicates his a moments manager meaning he's not a serious manager, not a Man Utd type.
EtH had not earned the right to be our long term Manager cos right now he's been messing Up due to his lack of adapting & limited approach to the job & his undermining of the youth policy, due to poor In-game management so his Job was definitely under review due to his underperformance as Manager of our Club in the time he has been there so there's was room for improvement.
To Us EtH deserved the Sack cos he lost against West Ham 2-1!
If the decision was up to Us we would have let him go after the FA Cup win.
To Us he'll go down as the worst manager we've experienced ahead of Mourinho for 60 years since SMB. Good riddance.
Keep it in the family!
We want to be challenging for the league & Europa league this season but EtH is a moments manager & lacks people skills to take charge of our club.
Man Utd's Ineos chose the 'Joker' Eric Ten Hag cos of the 5min fans (anyone under 30) & flip-flop fan Base!
If it was up to Us we would vet or ban the 5min fans & FlipFlop fans & send them to SkyNet Etihad!
SAF way & Ole way is the Man Utd way.
We prefer Ole otherwise Amorim or Zidane can do a better Job for Us for the long-term!
Keep it in the family,
🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳
SO JESUS AMORIN IS GOING TO DO AN ALEC FERGUSON MIRACLE AT MU ? HA HA
Club always looking at short term and knee jerk reactions