I'm glad he mentioned Luke Woodhead. I had a nasty repair job done by him to my Vienna Horn. I very stupidly broke the linkage to the 1st valve and Luke did a very impressive repair. He is a splendid chap and I can't recommend him highly enough.
I think I get about that high in the series on a some harmonic flutes I have made and play. The harmonic series is where integer math meets sound, all of our scales and modes come from it. But then I can cap the open end and the "and a half" math happens and then it can wail the blues like a blues harp. Something valveless brass can not do.
What I wanna know is, how did Bach write the Brandenburg Concertos given all the limitations of all the instruments. It sounds like not all notes were available, so he had to know that in advance for every instrument..
Given the volume of music he had to write, he likely very quickly became very familiar with the limitations of all of the instruments for which he was writing very early in his composing career, not even mentioning his studies of compositions informing how he wrote for each instrument.
Bach wrote for 1st horn and 2nd horn. The 2nd horns were often in different keys covering the harmonic notes that couldn't be played. This why you typically see four horns in orchestral pieces, horns 1 & 2 cover one key, while 3 & 4 cover the harmonic key. In orchestras with younger musicians, the 1st and 3rd hornists are, typically, more technically proficient and have parts with much more exposure. Contemporary horns, however, are a totally different story. Each of the four hornists gets worked over and there may be a 5th player whose only purpose is solo work.
Kevin Genus he didnt. He wrote for pairs of horns in the same key. Usually both parts are equally challenging. I think you are talking about later 18th century music when you might see horn parts in different keys. In Bach's time the horn players were fantastic professional outdoor band players who could use clarino technique (like baroque trumpet) to play virtuosic music.
@@shrimpman9545 Well technically trumpets weren't made in different keys. You would have one trumpet, and multiple crooks for the different keys. Also fyi trumpet in Bb was not a thing in the Baroque era, neither was trumpet in A I'm fairly sure.
I have a question and I would be very gratefull if you aswered it. So,the person playing the natural horn must tune or pitch all the notes writen in their head at the moment of reading ? I mean, flute and clarinet players have a position for each note so they can play even if in their heads isn´t perfectly pitched. Then, natural horn players must have the note perfectly tune in their heads at the moment of reading so they can play it right, just like a singer ?
@@mogalelebethe6082 I don’t think people started adding tuning holes to baroque horns until the 20th century with the early music revival. People who played the original horns would have had a lot of skill in bending certain partials to be more in tune, or playing notes that aren’t necessarily in the horn’s harmonic series. Additionally, the “out of tune” nature of those partials was more of an accepted thing before the horn became a regular member of the orchestra. I suppose everybody else got tired of the horn players not blending exactly with the rest of the orchestra; and this is one of the reasons the horn progressed into putting the hand in the bell. I’m sorry i said so much, it wasn’t really necessary. My fingers just kind of keep typing for some reason. This period of horn playing is super interesting to me!
Not completely, by this time players were using their hands in the bell to change the effective length of the tube so you could get those notes not on the scale that Roger so skilfully played, only in the upper register though. Listen to a recording of Mozart's concertos by Lowell Green. No valves!! just a beautifully sonorous sound with a few quieter notes where he stops it with his right hand.
Fuck me you are one dumb muppet if you think Bach is overrated. You clearly have no sense of the musical artistry, complicated musical techniques etc that is found within Bach's music...
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Holy wow that embouchure control. That is some serious skill.
WCKern
All of a sudden a little piece of the Brandenburg concertos makes so much sense now.
I'm glad he mentioned Luke Woodhead. I had a nasty repair job done by him to my Vienna Horn. I very stupidly broke the linkage to the 1st valve and Luke did a very impressive repair. He is a splendid chap and I can't recommend him highly enough.
Thanks Roger for this video!
I think I get about that high in the series on a some harmonic flutes I have made and play. The harmonic series is where integer math meets sound, all of our scales and modes come from it. But then I can cap the open end and the "and a half" math happens and then it can wail the blues like a blues harp. Something valveless brass can not do.
bro playing the natral horn that good is crazy. you got strong mouth muscles
What I wanna know is, how did Bach write the Brandenburg Concertos given all the limitations of all the instruments. It sounds like not all notes were available, so he had to know that in advance for every instrument..
Given the volume of music he had to write, he likely very quickly became very familiar with the limitations of all of the instruments for which he was writing very early in his composing career, not even mentioning his studies of compositions informing how he wrote for each instrument.
Cihan T they'd make trumpets in defferent keys. like an A trumpet, C trumpet, Bb trumpet, you get the point
Bach wrote for 1st horn and 2nd horn. The 2nd horns were often in different keys covering the harmonic notes that couldn't be played. This why you typically see four horns in orchestral pieces, horns 1 & 2 cover one key, while 3 & 4 cover the harmonic key. In orchestras with younger musicians, the 1st and 3rd hornists are, typically, more technically proficient and have parts with much more exposure. Contemporary horns, however, are a totally different story. Each of the four hornists gets worked over and there may be a 5th player whose only purpose is solo work.
Kevin Genus he didnt. He wrote for pairs of horns in the same key. Usually both parts are equally challenging. I think you are talking about later 18th century music when you might see horn parts in different keys. In Bach's time the horn players were fantastic professional outdoor band players who could use clarino technique (like baroque trumpet) to play virtuosic music.
@@shrimpman9545 Well technically trumpets weren't made in different keys. You would have one trumpet, and multiple crooks for the different keys. Also fyi trumpet in Bb was not a thing in the Baroque era, neither was trumpet in A I'm fairly sure.
I don't know how to play a horn like this or even a trumpet but I can watch and this is very interesting.
What a nice voice as well!
True!
Great my dear friend Roger! But why speak about not to use the hand, but you don´t say that you are using a hole to correct the pitch for the F and A?
Nicely done, excellent writing, and no edits at all that I could catch! Lots of info I did not know.
How to clean it? I mean, the modern instruments have all these removable u-sliders and water valves...
I would guess you just submerge it and then let the water run out.
Nice video. Is there a historical treatise I can read and learn more?
Excellent thank you
Great control and intonation. The age of red faces and bulging veins.
I am a natural horn player i have been playing since I was 17 years old just one of my hobbies
I have a question and I would be very gratefull if you aswered it. So,the person playing the natural horn must tune or pitch all the notes writen in their head at the moment of reading ? I mean, flute and clarinet players have a position for each note so they can play even if in their heads isn´t perfectly pitched. Then, natural horn players must have the note perfectly tune in their heads at the moment of reading so they can play it right, just like a singer ?
@@dreadkong22 If I may, the natural horns had a small hole that was sometimes used to finetune the notes.
@@mogalelebethe6082 oh thank you so much. Even so, it is really difficult to play sight reading, I think.
@@dreadkong22 True. I can only imagine how difficult it is to actually sight read the music on a natural horn!
@@mogalelebethe6082 I don’t think people started adding tuning holes to baroque horns until the 20th century with the early music revival. People who played the original horns would have had a lot of skill in bending certain partials to be more in tune, or playing notes that aren’t necessarily in the horn’s harmonic series. Additionally, the “out of tune” nature of those partials was more of an accepted thing before the horn became a regular member of the orchestra. I suppose everybody else got tired of the horn players not blending exactly with the rest of the orchestra; and this is one of the reasons the horn progressed into putting the hand in the bell. I’m sorry i said so much, it wasn’t really necessary. My fingers just kind of keep typing for some reason. This period of horn playing is super interesting to me!
Cool.
Would this work with Mozart’s horn concertos
Not completely, by this time players were using their hands in the bell to change the effective length of the tube so you could get those notes not on the scale that Roger so skilfully played, only in the upper register though. Listen to a recording of Mozart's concertos by Lowell Green. No valves!! just a beautifully sonorous sound with a few quieter notes where he stops it with his right hand.
yes but the timbre is brighter
You are awesome✌🏻
How much does one cost and where do you even buy one?
several thousand dollars
God of lip slurs
Hi ms borros
onde se compra aqui no brasil
Reminds me of why I quit trombone
0:10 hi ms borros
Curve mello
If its Baroque, I hope someone fixes it.
I Baroque mine cos meh doggo ate it....
Noah it's an abbreviated version my friends say. Also, it's a joke. It's for people with a sense of humor
meth,not even once
The English don't whiten their teeth like Americans. I doubt a classical musician does meth.
Handel's Water Music> ALL of Bach's Brandenburg concertos, Bach is overrated crap! There I said it
If you ever heard Virgil Fox live, Bach whoops!
Fuck me you are one dumb muppet if you think Bach is overrated. You clearly have no sense of the musical artistry, complicated musical techniques etc that is found within Bach's music...
the best thing about free speech is that you can easily identify the morons