Tribo Volt Powder Coating System - No More Faraday
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- Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2016
- I don't know that this is still available. I have a couple of other Guns Listed below that I use and work well. Thanks.
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this looks promising for 2 and 3 coats, I currently use the Eastwood dual voltage system and the only way that i can get good coverage on the second coat is to preheat. have you done many multi coat jobs with this yet? If so how does it compare, do you still have to preheat?
thank you
Would you recommend this one over the Eastwood gun for doing tumblers?
I can't wait to start powder coating! This gun looks soooooo cool!!!
+Clint Christy it is.
So, to date, how many powders have you had trouble with using tribo? I am thinking of getting this gun since I have so many issues with multi-coats, but have close to 150 powders from Eastwood, Prismatic & PBTP on hand.
Having some trouble with bubbling up around the bottom seal of a stainless cup. Got any tips?
Interesting stuff here, few things off but for a guy who does not coat normally you did great explaining.
Without question and Thank.
I've been interested in seeing a tribo in action. Very interesting to say the least. I would like to point out, however, Corona style systems are operating at very high voltage at the tip (typically between 25 and 100 thousand volts (kV)). The reason it doesn't shock you too bad is because the guns are current limited (typically 0-100 microamps), and are low capacitance. This is very similar to common static voltage/current we see.
Good point.
You're comment about other guns giving the powder a negative charge and being attracted to the piece because it has no charge is incorrect. The powder is positively charged and the piece is grounded with other guns (i used the hs02 and a eastwood gun). This system seems very limited to what powders you can use with it. for 50-60 more you might as well buy a redline ez50
in europe you can get a similar item from a company called "nordic pulver" i believe. it looks almost the same
﴾ ﴿ I really think that’s where these come from.
In Europe we have also the EZcoat
So, where do you get more empty jars and replacement parts? What is the warranty??Links to parts, warranty, powders????????????????????????
where can I get one & how much?
Wow dude, great info...Chad, you're awesome!!
ESCAGEDO WOODWORKING thanks! Always appreciate a positive comment. Hope you had a great Thanksgiving!
just finished up leftovers..it was great. Now I'm off to try and work out some music for a maker...
im not sure if you have inverted the polarities.. something like gun is negative and the target positive, so the ions are attracted to the target.
I’ve not inverted anything. The gun is different than traditional powdercoating guns. That said they are challenging to find now.
That was the most informative video I’ve seen on the tribostatic gun yet. Thanks.
Thanks.
ManCraftingTM Kurt at prismatic schooled me on the powder. He said that the tribo gun is very good for avoiding faraday effect but will not shoot metallic. He recommended Corona gun for metallics and heavier stuff. He recommended the Eastwood dual voltage for the hobby Corona gun. So I bought the Nordicpulver tribo and the Eastwood Corona. Thanks for your informative video.
Gator Guida I found that there are a few colors that would separate using the Tribo, and maybe they had some metal in them that wasn’t apparent. In some ways it’s amazing, but you definitely did the right thing getting a second gun.
Who said the Eastwood wont hurt ya if you get bit by it!! That a huge lie! My Eastwood has jumped out 8 inches and see the electric hit my hand about 3 times a second! And it damn well hurts bad.. I had to through my gun to get away from it. This new Tribo is awesome you can hold the part while you powder it..
I’ve gotten a shock or two. I try to avoid that nowadays.
Hello budy, how are you ? I am interested in buying a machine like this you send to Brazil? and how do i buy?
Thanks for putting up the video, it is a very interesting topic. Can these still be purchased?
I’ve lost contact with the only place I knew of selling them. I did find a listing on eBay. Little different design but still a tribo.
@@ManCrafting they are like unicorn farts. Hard to find.
So it's been 6 years since you posted this video. Have you had any trouble applying any powders with the tribo gun - metallics, etc? Would you choose this over a regular corona gun?
I wouldn’t choose it I’ve a regular gun. It has several benefits but it’s finicky on which powders it works with.
@@ManCrafting Thanks!
I'm ready to buy my powder coating gun should I buy the Eastwood dual voltage hot coat powder gun or the tribo bolt powder coating system? The Tribo bolt system can I buy the powder from other companies if so do u recommend one?
There are benefits to both. Eastwood will handle pretty much any powder you put through it. Tribo is fantastic if your using Tribostatic Powders. Not all powders will take that charge. There are several manufactures and resellers. Most of the companies that sell pound sizes are reselling the powder from companies that make the powder and sell in 40-100 lb packaging. Prismatic Powders does both.
Nice video! How does it work with big pieces? If it doesn’t have high voltage?
Laflx I saw it work on 4 foot by 8 foot grates that had all sorts of angles and corners as well as entire garbage dumpsters. Here’s a link to a similar gun. The place I originally bought this isn’t around anymore. amzn.to/39xVguk
ManCraftingTM thank you so much for the info! Happy new year!
Great review! I am considering a tribo gun but I am worried that 220volts are going straight to my hand - how is this made safe enough? Is it more dangerous than a eastwood electrostatic gun?
pe.sho there is no 220. It's not even plugged in. No outlet. Just compressed air.
Yep just got through some more videos and found that out :). That makes it even cooler. Now I need to find out if it would work with those Akzo Nobel Powder coat paints that my local supplier has in stock. If it works , I am definitely going for it. Thanks :)
The paint needs to able to be used with that positive charge. Powders here, in N America, are made specifically for negative powder charge. Some will work with Tribo, but I’ve found companies to often be reticent about whether their powders will. I assume it’s a matter of liability. I’ve found a few that will. But it’s odd, as paint I’ve bought before that worked didn’t work from a later batch. So catch as catch can. The colors available here are extremely limited compared to standard powders. I’d love to have a reliable source, but I haven’t found one so far, and I’m not willing to directly import from Europe.
Mel Gross it is a challenge. Fortunately it’s not my only gun.
i noticed in the powder list it says that only a few tgic powders work in it....i have noticed some of the powders i get from columbia coating are tgic based ...is that an issue you know of with this gun being able to use different powders?
Sorry this comment was hidden. Ask Michael at Liquid Powder Concepts. I know he'll have an answer.
ManCraftingTM i did the day i bought it...its unknown to anyone....i can tell you this glossy white from eastwood don't spray good at all with this gun
@@hollywoodemt911 That is what I wanted to shoot.... So 3 years later what is your take on this system?
I shot everything with that gun....I dont do near as much as I was doing now as I was then but it still works perfect
I saw this video the other day and immediately ordered the gun. I also have the east wood dual voltage and have the same problems as most of you all do with second, third coats. tried the gun today and shot corky pink from prismatic and it worked like a dream (except for shooting out a 1/4lb of powder) lol then adjusted it and it gave me a perfect even coat. then I tried pearl white from prismatic and it wouldn't stick at all so had to go back to using the eastwood :/. what sucks is prismatic doesn't tell you which colors are the type of powder (tribo friendly)
did you put the clearcoat on before curing the pink?
TheGame4Life sorry. Just seeing this. I usually cure partially. Then clear. Then cure together. Now if I'm using a low temp clear I do a full cure.
With this gun, is a standalone earth ground necessary like it is with the eastwood gun?
Kyle Zack not according to liquidpowdercoatconcepts. They didn't use one. They just hooked the gun ground to the stand to keep from getting shocked.
ManCraftingTM Well that helps! What powder did you have an issue with using the Tribo?
Kyle Zack only one so far. It was Candy Kelly Green from APP I believe. It's the only candy I've ran into trouble with so far.
I just received a Tribo and I cant get it to work very good. I have the paint from Liquid Powder Concepts, it leaks powder it 3 spots on the gun and the paint comes out in bunches. It there a powder level in the cup that is recomended? It also dont stick to the cup.
Contact Michael at liquid powder concepts. I adjust the pressure by feel. I don't have a gauge. As for the leaking, it could be that you have too much pressure. I only fill the hopper/jar about 1/3 full. Not all powders are tribostatic.
Stephen Schartz mine did the same exact thing. It's leaking like crazy and it shoots out powder in two speeds nothing or full blast. I'm the process of getting it returned and getting my money back
This wasn't my experience at all. I'd call Michael at LPC and see if he
can help you trouble shoot the issue. He uses them all day long
everyday with a lot of success. He knows them inside and out. If there is an issue I'm sure he's seen it. I wonder if there is a change in them or if the parts are being assembled differently?
Thanks for the info very interesting and cool effects,,,one last thing at the end of the video you had some relaxing highway barrier driving your not one of those slow guys in the left lane slowing the morning commute, are you? Bwahahahaha thanks!
I enjoy watching ManCraftingTM and has taught me a lot on powder coating. But if you do buy this gun and don't like it, you can not return it and get back your money. I've tried for 3 weeks to return mine and I've either have been ignored or told "once the gun is returned we will decide if you will get your money back or not." when I received my gun it was poorly packaged, gun looks like something they made in 30 minutes and charge you $300, I had to go buy parts to actually use it, and when I did it shoots out powder like a cannon wasting so much powder and leaked in multiple spots. Do not buy this gun.
What would happen if I don't connect it to the ground - paint won't stick to the item I am trying to coat or something worse can happen ?
+pe.sho it may or may not stick. That all. Better to be grounded. It allows the powder to go on heavier and more coats if needed.
Thanks a lot for the info.
so with this gun it should or will eliminate hot coating the 2nd color.....i run into this alot doing 2 colors and i use an Eastwood duel voltage gun....i usually have spots that want allow 2nd color to stick so i end up hot coating it ..
Absolutely. As you can see in the video, not only am I doing it cold, I was able to blow off some of the over spray where I was blending to get a better line. It's pretty cool.
ManCraftingTM
ive learned a great deal from your videos...i only been powder coating for few months but im swamped with cup orders...its one of thoses self learning things through trial and error ...how much is this gun?
anthony garrett It's $300 but you get $10 off is you put ManCrafter as the discount code.
ManCraftingTM thats not a bad deal especially if it will prevent the hot coating process....i just done 45 order cup cor a local fire department one color stainless letters which was simple i got another order for another fire department 45 cups 2 colors i might invest in this gun for that....especially if your standing behind the fact it will eliminate hot coating....
I agree. Especially if you are doing it for money. As a hobby, you may not care, but if you are in a bind and don't have time to mess around the fact that you can get good coverage is important.
Website up for sale :/ Looked interesting, though. Anybody know of another company selling a gun like this one?
El Guapo I actually added a comment in the description that mentions this. Not sure what happened to the business. Small business so who knows. I did have a lead on another source. Let me see if I can track it down.
@@ManCrafting Yeah, I saw your comment in the description just after I posted my comment. And thanks for any help on that other source. I'm currently shopping around for a powder coating gun and I'd really like to try one like the one in your video. Thanks again.
are these people located in anderson? if so im 10 mins away i can just run by im in williamson
anthony garrett they are.
701 N Murray Ave
Anderson SC 29625
yes sir i was looking at the website and found it....ill have to ride over monday and check it out ...i saw on another video you talked about going to anderson sc but i didnt really think nothing about it since you live in ga......mignt start buing my powder from them if they got what i need
I have two questions, it's this better than the Eastwood gun?? I am gonna make a upgrade soon, (I have the harbor freight system). Also would u be about to use powders from Eastwood with this system??
I like it better for several reasons, the most important is how well it covers. I just did a wrinkle coat that always looked a little funky in the past. It really needs to have good thick coverage. I had no issues with the Tribo. It was a gift for my brother and he was blown away.
ManCraftingTM thanks
So this one works well with wrinkles?
I tried calling the company Liquid Powder Concepts. The number is out of service. Are they still in business?
i own a eastwood dual coating system and the tribo seems more logical.The only thing i dont like is the lack of contact info on your site.Also the link to tiger powders is a nightmare!
Bunch of great questions. I’m looking for a company that sells this style gun currently. The company I initially got this from seems to have ghosted. They had a thriving business, so I’m guessing there was personal issues that have been in play.
@@ManCrafting I recently bought one from NordicPulver and had it shipped from their HQ in Lithuania. It took two months and Customs went through it, but it's basically the same thing you're using in your video.
I think I found my next powder-coating gun
its a 3D printed piece of crap.
This week, at the company I work for, a system consisting of 6 automatic corona guns was installed. Soon after, a tribe-type gun was installed to post-touch the finishes.
But I noticed that painting with a tribe-type gun over a piece that was previously painted with corona is being very difficult, it seems that there is repulsion of the paint.
This is normal? Can't I mix the two processes in the same part?
Great question. I’m thinking they wouldn’t be compatible, but there may be a way to get around that I’m not aware of.
Why do u say that tribo fits with only a few products, and corona gun fits all? In the chart u show in video. That's makes no sense. Please help me out
I'm looking at the chart and guns like Eastwood and Redline amzn.to/2IzsNpH are compatible with all of the powders I have already purchased. The Tribo works well with most of the epoxy, urethane and polyester powders I own. Sometimes some parts of the powder take the charge and other parts of the powder don't take a charge. So, if you are just starting out, you can make it a point to purchase powders and colors that are compatible. If you are buying direct from Liquid Powder Concepts all they stock are powders that work well with their guns. They have done the testing and they know which powders will work.
Why couldn't they use Eastwood Bottles. I only have a 100!!!
howell989 good question. The bottles aren't strong enough for the fluidization. The jars on the Tribo are much more rigid.
What happened to the website?
No idea. I think they shut down.
Have you even researched what a faraday effect is? For one thing. you WILL NOT get a faraday effect shooting a flat piece of metal to begin with.
Hey now you can just give me your Eastwood containers haha 😜
Brandon Kidd haha. I'll still be putting them to use.
Thats a cheapo harbor frieght sandblasting gun reconfigged to shoot powder
It’s not HF but I hear you. It’s a cheap gun modified. The base of the gun isn’t what makes it work though. It’s just a platform.
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Hello budy, how are you ? I am interested in buying a machine like this you send to Brazil? and how do i buy?
Gel Nunes I don’t sell them. If I did I’d hook you up.