I don't think Kate can brainwash Soldier Boy, since when Black Noir is having the flashback of payback's ambush on Soldier Boy, we can see that Soldier Boy is able to withstand Mindstorm's mind control, the same Mindstorm who was able to make a Butcher full of temporary V go numb in an instant.
You know what would make sense? Homelander trying out methods to get his hands on that Soldier boy no aging mojo, given the fact of the build up that Homelander is facing issues with getting older
For what butcher and the others did to soldier boy, I think he might aswell just join homelander's side even without the brainwashing. I feel like this would kind of make sense since it was recently teased that soldier boy is driven to kill butcher in S5, personally, that's where I see soldier boy dying
The stronger a supe is the harder it is to do that kind of stuff to them, we saw that with soldier boy and mind storm, he should be able to hold it off for a lil bit
Sam was strong too but maybe ur right if it has to do with physical and mental strenght because if you consider both into the whole package then soldier boy is probably just about the strongest supe in the boys right now.(show soldier boy is probably the mentally strongest out of the relevant supes. Homelander is a Man child,ryan is in his early teens, the gen v characters are also just young adults, maybe butcher is on a similar mentally level than him.)
Homelander can't bring himself to brainwash his dad he will try to convince him once again since he and Ryan are the only family he has and he values relationship alot he got heart broken when a train betrayed him even though he always bullied him soldier boy might side with homelander this time
@@Firstlast-zg1fsi agree I think he's gonna try and convince him to willingly work with him, but he's gonna have cate in the background ready to sneak up on him and brain wash him if he doesn't agree to it
I feel like She might do that but then she'll try to basically seduce him or have him as a boyfriend only for Homelander to find out and kill her causing Soldier boy to be freed from the brain washing and escape and basically Sam being able to have feelings again and connect with Kimiko, ruining Sage's plan
My question is, if Soldier Boy gained a new ability which is the Radiation Beam, maybe he can gain other new abilities? Maybe he has the ability to adapt and become even sronger/better?
Homelander wouldn’t do that, he isn’t that petty. Soldier Boy is gonna probably try to be a father, since Butcher double crossed him, and he’s gonna team up with Homelander
It's plausible, also plausible that Kate will attempt this, but it won't end up working because soldier boy is soldier boy. Something tells me Soldier boy won't be down for all of this. As much of an a**hole he might be, in his own words he's "not a bad guy". He may go along with it at first, but something will happen to turn him away from Homelander. And maybe Soldier boy will end being the one who also officially gets Ryan to see the light. Because if he stays on homelander's side, I don't see how The Boys or Butcher have any chance of coming out on top in the end. So even just on that alone, I don't think he'll be on homelander's side for very long.
He is immune to mind control. Minstorm couldn't do shit against him and ate his shield, what makes you think a glass Cannon like kate will be able to do anything against him.
I don't think they would even brainwash him, the fact that Butcher betrayed him is a good enough excuse to side with Homelander for a little while till he does his own thing
That theorie with kate making soldier boy a caring father sounds way better than the theories that kate will just brainwash him into a brainless puppet to me(obviously the best outcome for his plot would be for soldier boy to come back as himself without any brainwashing interfearance but we dont know what will happen in s5)
In all fairness, it could be as it could not. In one scene in s3 soldier boy said that he wish he would have been able to be better than his father was, and that homelander was the last blood he had around the world, till butcher gaslighted him into fightin homelander sayin that vought and america replaced him, and the son wasnt even his son, he didnt made him, he didnt named him (well, ironic said by butcher who risked the boys whole life just for a kid of someone else).
for everyone saying he was able to withstand mindstorm, he was only able to resist it but still got him. That's why when they fought he covered his face
I think soldier boy is gonna be grateful that someone finally saved him and stayed loyal to him. His first team abandoned him with the Russians. His second team turned on him as well.
Kate will make solider boy her husband/daddy lol - Homelander will want to syphon the de aging ability from Solider boy, remember he hates getting older
That would be shit for the show and I think Homelander wants to prove to him, himself what he is capable of. Kate simply using her power on Soldier Boy is weak writing.
Soldier boy wasn’t trapped in her mind it was just her imaginary friend. Kate is also unable to brainwash Soldier boy because he is MUCH stronger than what she can control, also if she even could control him I imagine she would brainwash him into being her Bf after what we saw inside her head 😂
Idk if they do this I would be mad asf bc soldier boy is way stronger than her, and we know that Neuman couldn’t pop homelander head bc he was way stronger, soldier boy (in the show) is near homelander strength, if they use Kate to brainwash him that would mean she could do it to homelander as well, adding more bullshit to how power level works in this show, it’s just all over the place, I think he should kill him without even waking him up, that goes a lot more and better with his character ark, who he is now is not the same person he was when he found out SB is his dad, I know it’s shit bc I want to see a lot more of soldier boy but this Kate shit would break both characters homelander and soldier boy making it seem really fucking dum
Soldier boy got no grudge against homelander ....And he comes to know that homelander is his own blood...Homelander can act like he came to help soldier boy come out from that box. Which soldier boy will think homelander saved him and might side with homelander.
If that was the case then mindstorm would have easily overpowered his mind, it only made him drop his guard down (in the black noir 1 flashback before he got novichok'd) personally I'd say we would have to see how it happens.
Nop, there is no need for kate to brainwash soldier boy to be in homelander's side. Soldier boy wants to take revenge on butcher for betraying him, which is enough to be in his side.
I think in reality this would be so mind-blowing and really hard to understand due to the sensitivity of the main concern that this would have brought to our most deeply and aggressively thought, that indeed pineapple does belong on pizza...🤔
I don’t think Cate can actually mind control soldier boy, at least not permanently (or brainwash him). Mine storm could only control SB for a few seconds so I doubt cate could handle him that well either.
There could be a chamce that Soldier Boy would want to do this of his own free will too, especially after how The Boys turned on him ( mainly Buthcer ), witch lead to the last fight back at Vaught, he would see that once he woke up, that even after what happend, that Homelander stayd true to him, enough to bring him back, and that there wouldnt be much reason to face off against the man that just brought him back, he would probably work with Homelander and against The Boys.
I dont think kate can't even approach to the soldier boy if i know right kate needs to touch someone for her powers and she dont have any physical power so she is just a human.
This all might be true until the final episode. There's absolutely no way they'll keep him a bad guy after the fan base fell in love with that character. He'll snap out of it somehow and wreck Homelander or be instrumental in bringing him down.
Soldier boy (the best character from the show in all it’s episodes ) I bet they try to harness his ability to burn the v out of sups blood that aren’t down with homelanders plan
Kate from Gen v, right? The one who got her arm blown apart by that one chick that Homelander then demolished? I just got one question- when her arm was blown off and her eyes got red as shit were those just supposed to be popped blood vessels or something?
I don't think so. Mindstorm has more time with his power and he couldn't control soldier boy at all. It's a good theory but idk if it will work against soldier boy
I don’t think she can. The guy who puts people in nightmares couldn’t do it to solider boy, as shown when Bucky beaver does the recreation of that fight. He tried to put solider boy in a nightmare and it didn’t work.
I also think they'll retcon the SB killing MM's family. It'll come out MM was wrong all along and SB never was the one who did this. It's the only past thing he supposedly did that is unforgivable paving way for him ending as a good guy.
Homelander might make Kate make him mentally strong. Isn't there a guy with similar powers who soilder boy knows about? (forgot his name) Either way he knew who was under his control so idk if he'll be easy to brainwash.
I don't think Kate is not at all powerful enough to control soldier boy. she looks like humans no problem but certain super like newman trying to burst homelander head and couldn't but soldier boy may play along for an episode or two to escape because against mindstorm a stronger supe he had no problem
But I have feeling that soldier boy or butcher will break that brainwash and soldier boy will think that he is still dead cousine him to FREAK out and try to kil anybody that is next to him
I have a feeling that Soldier Boy is gonna fight Sam at one point and wipe the floor with him😭
I didnt watch gen v , just the clips but why does it look like sam is stronger ? I mean from looking just at clips Sam looks so overpowered
@@alanpaluchowski7133 We will see
doubt it, sam is crazy strong. stronger than his brother who was #1 at godolkin.
@@StrykeSZNsoldier boy washes sam😂 his feats arent comparable to soldier boy
Idk man sam was captured and restrained by regular humans, took a whole team of supes to capture soldier boy
I don't think Kate can brainwash Soldier Boy, since when Black Noir is having the flashback of payback's ambush on Soldier Boy, we can see that Soldier Boy is able to withstand Mindstorm's mind control, the same Mindstorm who was able to make a Butcher full of temporary V go numb in an instant.
Great point
Yeap, Soldier Boy's too strong for some Kate's touching. He prefers them older anyway.. the tastier, but the dryer
Real. Soldier boy ain't no f**king pu*sy to be mind controlled
You know what would make sense?
Homelander trying out methods to get his hands on that Soldier boy no aging mojo, given the fact of the build up that Homelander is facing issues with getting older
For what butcher and the others did to soldier boy, I think he might aswell just join homelander's side even without the brainwashing. I feel like this would kind of make sense since it was recently teased that soldier boy is driven to kill butcher in S5, personally, that's where I see soldier boy dying
The stronger a supe is the harder it is to do that kind of stuff to them, we saw that with soldier boy and mind storm, he should be able to hold it off for a lil bit
Sam was strong too but maybe ur right if it has to do with physical and mental strenght because if you consider both into the whole package then soldier boy is probably just about the strongest supe in the boys right now.(show soldier boy is probably the mentally strongest out of the relevant supes. Homelander is a Man child,ryan is in his early teens, the gen v characters are also just young adults, maybe butcher is on a similar mentally level than him.)
Maybe by humans but Cate is a supe herself so her push powers may or may not be able to affect his brain we will have to see
@@vazo6980 sam gave in to cate doing that
Homelander can't bring himself to brainwash his dad he will try to convince him once again since he and Ryan are the only family he has and he values relationship alot he got heart broken when a train betrayed him even though he always bullied him soldier boy might side with homelander this time
@@Firstlast-zg1fsi agree I think he's gonna try and convince him to willingly work with him, but he's gonna have cate in the background ready to sneak up on him and brain wash him if he doesn't agree to it
Soldier Boy was not trapped in there. That was a figment of Kates imagination.
Thank you. I swear people aren't watching these shows at all. I have seen this BS in dozens of comments like that's the actual SB in her dream.
Wait so he's not coming back?
@@aetnaone He was talking about the season 4 finale end credits scene
@@somebody2659 He is
yo explain..even i am confused now
Can’t tell yall how hyped I am that Soldier Boy is back he’s my favorite character in the boys universe
Kimiko better
No one cares whos better, its his opinion @Cam_bit
I agree.
@@Cam_bitnobody cares
Same
Soldier boy x homelander is gonna be a strong duo in the show.
I feel like She might do that but then she'll try to basically seduce him or have him as a boyfriend only for Homelander to find out and kill her causing Soldier boy to be freed from the brain washing and escape and basically Sam being able to have feelings again and connect with Kimiko, ruining Sage's plan
Bro read the script 😭
This is a great prediction! 😊
Did bro spoil season 5😭💀
I don't want Cate to be wasted like that but that might happen tbh.
Actually i just remembered that the imaginary soldier boy is dead or atleast cate forgot about her love for him.
Even Mindstorm wasnt able to do that
The Stronger the Supe the Harder to control
He covered mindstorms face before killing him right?
@@itsporterin black noirs flashback
@@notabot1039 yeah I looked it up after the comment lol I don't think Kate will be able to mind control him either
Mindstorm is probably stronger too. Bro didn’t even need physical contact to kill you.
Bro mindstorm try to brainwash soldier boy and y'all know what happened
I prefer him as a weapon against Homelander.
The director confirmed they'll be teaming up against Butcher
I think Soldier boy and Ryan will work together.
He always wanted kids he said. I can see this happening.
I really want this to happen. I don't care if he's a perfect father figure or not. But he'll make Ryan a real man
My goat soldier boy won’t get brainwashed !!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥
The goat is too strong for that, he ain't no pussy😤
She gon brainwash him to shaboink her, cause she has a huge crush on him from gen v.
Who wouldnt
My question is, if Soldier Boy gained a new ability which is the Radiation Beam, maybe he can gain other new abilities? Maybe he has the ability to adapt and become even sronger/better?
Homelander wouldn’t do that, he isn’t that petty. Soldier Boy is gonna probably try to be a father, since Butcher double crossed him, and he’s gonna team up with Homelander
And the teamup is gonna encourage Butchers making of an airborne supe virus
Do you forget homelander also participated in kicking his ass? He's not playing dad and son by himself.
He ain't teaming up with anybody, he's just gonna try to destroy this horrible world.
@@DioBrando-by5vrI hope nothing happens to Soldier Boy he's the goat
It's plausible, also plausible that Kate will attempt this, but it won't end up working because soldier boy is soldier boy. Something tells me Soldier boy won't be down for all of this. As much of an a**hole he might be, in his own words he's "not a bad guy". He may go along with it at first, but something will happen to turn him away from Homelander. And maybe Soldier boy will end being the one who also officially gets Ryan to see the light. Because if he stays on homelander's side, I don't see how The Boys or Butcher have any chance of coming out on top in the end. So even just on that alone, I don't think he'll be on homelander's side for very long.
He wouldn’t be in favor of Homelander’s supe supremacist dictatorship and concentration camps plan
He is immune to mind control. Minstorm couldn't do shit against him and ate his shield, what makes you think a glass Cannon like kate will be able to do anything against him.
Kate doesn't need her powers to brainwash me
I think soldier boy becomes a good guy and plays the part of the good homelander in the comics and helps kill the bad homelander
I don't think they would even brainwash him, the fact that Butcher betrayed him is a good enough excuse to side with Homelander for a little while till he does his own thing
i doubt she'll bea able to, he'll kill her much quicker than she can mind control him, sage however might be able to manipulate him to her plan
When soilder boy wakes up the cell that would hold him will be evaporated
That theorie with kate making soldier boy a caring father sounds way better than the theories that kate will just brainwash him into a brainless puppet to me(obviously the best outcome for his plot would be for soldier boy to come back as himself without any brainwashing interfearance but we dont know what will happen in s5)
She would never do that to her imaginary friend, boyfriend really!
Soldier boy is massively op. To me he absolutely stole the show and he could definitely do everyone.
In all fairness, it could be as it could not. In one scene in s3 soldier boy said that he wish he would have been able to be better than his father was, and that homelander was the last blood he had around the world, till butcher gaslighted him into fightin homelander sayin that vought and america replaced him, and the son wasnt even his son, he didnt made him, he didnt named him (well, ironic said by butcher who risked the boys whole life just for a kid of someone else).
Soldier boy bout to get the Winter Soldier arc.
for everyone saying he was able to withstand mindstorm, he was only able to resist it but still got him. That's why when they fought he covered his face
I doubt it’s that easy. In the flashback, Mindstorm got Soldier Boy with a direct attack and instead of going comatose, it just stunned SB
Considering soldier boy withstand mind storms mind controll i dont think soldier boy can be mind controlled by kate
I think soldier boy is gonna be grateful that someone finally saved him and stayed loyal to him. His first team abandoned him with the Russians. His second team turned on him as well.
Imagine soldier boy found out about stormfront and Homelander realitionship well he is so screwed 💀
Kate will make solider boy her husband/daddy lol - Homelander will want to syphon the de aging ability from Solider boy, remember he hates getting older
That would be shit for the show and I think Homelander wants to prove to him, himself what he is capable of.
Kate simply using her power on Soldier Boy is weak writing.
Why do I have a lingering thought that Kate might use her powers to make Soldier boy her little consort? I mean... he was her celebrity crush.
Soldier boy wasn’t trapped in her mind it was just her imaginary friend. Kate is also unable to brainwash Soldier boy because he is MUCH stronger than what she can control, also if she even could control him I imagine she would brainwash him into being her Bf after what we saw inside her head 😂
Mindstorm failed to control SB's, he's more powerful than Kate.
Idk if they do this I would be mad asf bc soldier boy is way stronger than her, and we know that Neuman couldn’t pop homelander head bc he was way stronger, soldier boy (in the show) is near homelander strength, if they use Kate to brainwash him that would mean she could do it to homelander as well, adding more bullshit to how power level works in this show, it’s just all over the place, I think he should kill him without even waking him up, that goes a lot more and better with his character ark, who he is now is not the same person he was when he found out SB is his dad, I know it’s shit bc I want to see a lot more of soldier boy but this Kate shit would break both characters homelander and soldier boy making it seem really fucking dum
Showrunner stated that soldier boy wants revenge on butcher so he may work with homelander this time around.
Dam yup Kate gonna get in soldier boy head to help homelander . But also probably diddle he skittle . Lmao
What?Solder Boy trapped in Kate's mind!!
😂🤣Watch the show dude
Soldier boy got no grudge against homelander ....And he comes to know that homelander is his own blood...Homelander can act like he came to help soldier boy come out from that box. Which soldier boy will think homelander saved him and might side with homelander.
If that was the case then mindstorm would have easily overpowered his mind, it only made him drop his guard down (in the black noir 1 flashback before he got novichok'd) personally I'd say we would have to see how it happens.
Guys, Kate is not working for Homelander, she is working for Edgar along with all the other people who snatched up the Boy's.
Now where did you come to this conclusion?
I feel like Sam would have so much more control over HL at that point that he’d take her out, freeing SB. Ultimately making him fight him.
MINDSTORM DID NOTHING TO HIM, he wasn't trapped there she made him up watch the show
Nop, there is no need for kate to brainwash soldier boy to be in homelander's side. Soldier boy wants to take revenge on butcher for betraying him, which is enough to be in his side.
I’m guessing he will be mind controlled at first, but will resist more and more throughout the season
Soldier boy will most likely join him without being brainwashed after what butcher pulled
Bro cooks when nobody is hungry!
I think in reality this would be so mind-blowing and really hard to understand due to the sensitivity of the main concern that this would have brought to our most deeply and aggressively thought, that indeed pineapple does belong on pizza...🤔
I don't believe should could really pull it off, since Soldier Boy was shown to be able to resist Mind Storm's powers.
I don’t think Cate can actually mind control soldier boy, at least not permanently (or brainwash him). Mine storm could only control SB for a few seconds so I doubt cate could handle him that well either.
Yep. Homelander will control him
I like this take! There’s no way soldier boy willingly works with homelander.. he’ll be forced to
There could be a chamce that Soldier Boy would want to do this of his own free will too, especially after how The Boys turned on him ( mainly Buthcer ), witch lead to the last fight back at Vaught, he would see that once he woke up, that even after what happend, that Homelander stayd true to him, enough to bring him back, and that there wouldnt be much reason to face off against the man that just brought him back, he would probably work with Homelander and against The Boys.
I just hope butcher uses his new power to become the Venom of the Boys universe
Homelander and soldier boy
Homeboy and soldierlander
I dont think kate can't even approach to the soldier boy if i know right kate needs to touch someone for her powers and she dont have any physical power so she is just a human.
Soldier boy worked with mindstorm so I think he won’t get brainwashed
whatever the plot, we're just glad we get soldier boy back
Well shit, hope *The Boys* save him before its too late or just save him while being brain-washed.
all i want is what the s01 finale of supernatural was titlted - " ALL THE HELL BREAKS LOOSE"
I dont know if shes strong enough. Its a good theory. But Honestly Soldier Boy might go along with Homelander for a while anyways just to be out.
She is definitely going to brainwash soldier boy lol….
Marie, London Li, Andre should join the boys
Andre's actor is dead unfortunately
I don’t think Kate can brainwash him I mean even mind storm had issues trying to do so
Na that would make soldier boy’s character seem so incomplete by the end of the show he will prob try to kill home lander on his own will
Cate needs to be unalived by soldier boy
No way. Mindstorm is way more powerful than Kate, and he couldn't break soldier boy's mind
I'll have to go back and rewatch the finale again, I don't remember that scene
I think Butcher will anhiliate soldier boy and homelander will be shitting his pants
Cate is going to be Homelander’s stepmom
Even though she's younger than him??
@@_Yombo The joke is that she’s going to brainwash solider boy to be her “boyfriend” and do all the things she has him do in gen v.
@@leroyporter3801 Ohh, lol
This all might be true until the final episode. There's absolutely no way they'll keep him a bad guy after the fan base fell in love with that character. He'll snap out of it somehow and wreck Homelander or be instrumental in bringing him down.
Soldier boy (the best character from the show in all it’s episodes ) I bet they try to harness his ability to burn the v out of sups blood that aren’t down with homelanders plan
Kate from Gen v, right? The one who got her arm blown apart by that one chick that Homelander then demolished? I just got one question- when her arm was blown off and her eyes got red as shit were those just supposed to be popped blood vessels or something?
I don't think so. Mindstorm has more time with his power and he couldn't control soldier boy at all. It's a good theory but idk if it will work against soldier boy
I don’t think she can. The guy who puts people in nightmares couldn’t do it to solider boy, as shown when Bucky beaver does the recreation of that fight. He tried to put solider boy in a nightmare and it didn’t work.
Kate confirm make Soldier boy his sugger daddy
I feel like the awakening will repeat the season 3 thing with an immediate nuclear blast, so that if she tries the brainwashing, she gets obliterated
Cate has a crush on soldier boy so I don't think she will brainwash him
she will so he can tickle her bean
Noooooo i want him back as hero
I also think they'll retcon the SB killing MM's family. It'll come out MM was wrong all along and SB never was the one who did this. It's the only past thing he supposedly did that is unforgivable paving way for him ending as a good guy.
well he’s not a good guy cause he still was abusive towards his team
@@dierreypc4787 true
It's an interesting theory
Homelander might make Kate make him mentally strong. Isn't there a guy with similar powers who soilder boy knows about? (forgot his name) Either way he knew who was under his control so idk if he'll be easy to brainwash.
I think Solder boy is going beat up the new noir like he did to the old one
I don't think Kate is not at all powerful enough to control soldier boy. she looks like humans no problem but certain super like newman trying to burst homelander head and couldn't but soldier boy may play along for an episode or two to escape because against mindstorm a stronger supe he had no problem
Won't they use Soldier boys power to depower other supes?
She loves him though so idk if that’s the best…
Bro he won over Mindstorm he can win over her
But I have feeling that soldier boy or butcher will break that brainwash and soldier boy will think that he is still dead cousine him to FREAK out and try to kil anybody that is next to him
Oh I never thought of that
I doubt it'll work on soldier boy.
I really don’t like the whole crossover or other shows thing. It just feels so extra plus it’s exactly what they made fun of now they’re doing it.
Ur trippin bro
Wait, soldier boy is back?
ok i get solider boys appeal but he is not the best supe put there lets be real
🙂
Name of the song?
Milk casette (slowed version)
@@cjax525 thanks mate
interesting