Here I thought BN couldnt tell us anything about how payback got rid of Soldier Boy. This was truly creative. Eric Kripke and his team are making a unique tv show in every way. Not to mention this made Black Noir more popular than he ever was.
I like how they were creative at making flashback that instead of wasting a lot of budget, they decided to make a cartoon animation portraying how they defeated soldier boy which is quite practical.
Ohh, sorry so you mean CGI that can be used in flashback is way more cheaper and the actors that will be pay to be involve in the scene definitely cut a lot of costing?
Low key the "bravery isn't having no fear bravery is having fear but you do it anyways" quote could be a genuine hero quote and it felt like it would be a change of heart for BN to become a real "hero"
Bro I love how they easily made me care for a guy with zero character In the last 2 seasons This episode won me over and made me hyped to see Black Noir finish things off Only for the gut wrenching reality that that's never gonna happen Beautiful 2 episode Arc
@@monicamclaughlin3494 Well said, Monica Mclaughlin... Seems that moment *Stan Edgar's asserting his dominance by eating almonds* feels like a 'power move' as you're said right then...?
@@monicamclaughlin3494 it's like a better version of what Jessie Esenberg's Lex luthor was trying to do in Batman vs Superman with those Jolly Ranchers by putting them inside some guy's mouth.
@@OnePressMan solder boy is superhuman just like homelander except if he didn’t have powers and had chest beam and black noir is ultimately the same but with no actual powers and black noir tanked an explosion no problem basically solder boy is just going to use chest beam every 5 seconds
Nice detail that for the confrontation, Black Noir isn’t wearing his helmet like he always wanted. And it costs him his face, dooming him to wear the helmet for the rest of his life.
I must be the only one who sees payback in the wrong here. Soldier boy was much less horrible than homelander and the team decides to defend him in the end? After all that? It's not enough to drive me away from season 4, but its ridiculous honestly.
@jaydonthomas427 I don't think they realized the implication at the time. Anything was better than soldier boy to them because he was so brutal to them. Plus he may or may not have molested gunpowder
@@BigChonk567yeah no one could have predicted what HL would become nor did they have any say over his upbringing. They also didn't know he was SB son. The tragedy here is that everyone is being taken advantage of. Everyone. That's why things are so bad. Vought is the big bad of this story not HL and SB.
Mindstorm trapped him in an endless nightmare but the only difference is soldier boy will never die of dehydration. He was stuck there until he broke out of it in his own mind. That's pretty badass
@@quensoueu1 he was but mindstorm put him in a trance shortly before the gas. It means that he was in an endless nightmare until he came to. You can't wake up someone who's under mindstorms power. Only mindstorm can so that means soldier boy got out of it on his own when they were torturing him and he killed several guysbefore they gassed him again
@@DrumCoversFromHell mindstorm was not able to put him in a trance because he closed his eyes and avoided it. If he had been in a trance the entire time he was with the Russians, he wouldn't have remembered any of it, and therefore wouldn't have been able to have the PTSD flashbacks. Soldier Boy was knocked out with the gas, from Scarlet Girl.
Man the actor for Black Noir was superb in this scene. Without saying a single word, only expressing through body language you can see the all his emotions he goes through as the cartoon played out.
Yeah, Nathan Mitchell has done an incredible job with his silent acting as OG Black Noir so far, and he was able to seamlessly switch to the ridiculous talking Black Noir 2.0 in season 4 as well.
Noir hallucinating about the talking animals and not being able to talk himself makes sense due to the massive amount of brain damage he received. The fact that he was able to hold on to this amount of insanity is nothing short of a miracle.
@@victorykingpin3674 Not exactly, hallucinations are a symptom of schizophrenia, which caracterizes by images, sounds or senses that are not real and the person is not aware of the fact that those things are not real. They think that those things are real, therefore they accept it as reality even if others try to tell em the truth. In that same way, it's not only hallucinations but a serie of other affective symptoms such as emotional disorders. Noir, just imagine cartoons, knowing they are not real, just like a normal thought to make himself feel safe, he is aware that those are thoughts and it's himself saying that he will be okay. In the show, the cartoons are shown as schizophrenia-like images or representations just to make the audience see what is happening inside his head.
@@prodskydroz how do you know that he doesn't see them as we see them? And I'm fairly sure Black Noir realizes they aren't real. So, why do you feel the need to correct the original commenter about this? Its abit of a petty nitpick
I am, mostly because this technically amount to nothing in the end. Like the presentation. Though we can already guess what happened without by what the other's have said and how the basic flashback of the woman had with Soldier boy and the other heros. So as much as I like this. This was basically pointless knowing he gets one shoted off by Homelander. Real let down to be honest.
what makes this fight scary in hindsight is that Payback won out of pure luck, if it wasn’t for Mindstorm, Soldier Boy would have crushed them all like bugs and even though it was all in cartoon form, the idea of Soldier Boy looking that angry and remorseless while violently mangling Black Noir is genuinely creepy and off putting, no wonder why Payback and especially Noir were scared out of their minds when they heard Soldier Boy has returned, he was just THAT dangerous
Nice detail having Grey Griffin voicing those birds. Grey has voiced many beloved characters from many fan favorite tv shows, so it makes easier to empathize with Noir who considers Buster beaver and all those characters his friends and it also hints that Black Noir has a childish side to him that makes him more loveable. Unlike homelander and his childish antics
I love how the cartoon animals actually carry a lot more symbolism then one catches at first glance. Like how Black Noir is the black sheep of the group, Gunpowder represented by the Pig. Stan Edgar as the weasel or rat…
I felt absolutely nothing for Noir until these scenes. I know he did any and everything for Vought and it was wrong. But they did such a good job making me feel empathy for him so much that I cried after his ending. After not liking him at all for 2 seasons, suddenly I saw him in such a different light knowing he was brain damaged by Soldier Boy and can’t speak anymore, still traumatized as well. I would have never expected this to be his backstory. The writers are so talented honestly.
@@thespellalchemist2723 But then, does that "a psychopath who has supported all of Vought Corporation's sinister agendas" seems pretty maligned isn't it?
I like how black noir even remembers what Stan was eating that day, but not what he sounded like back then. Maybe because he still communicated with Stan after the fall or something.
I just realized what was really going on, in Mallory's flashback Payback was killing her own men rather than the enemy while Soldier Boy was killing the bad guys, this was cause they didn't want anyone to see what they were doing.
Holy crap, I legit never thought of that. It makes so much more sense, and bothers me that I didn't really understand how to put those 2 contradictions together before. I thought Mallory was just lying to them again.
I keep rewatching how Crimson has the final move on Soldier Boy and 1:32 - 1:43 she says F*ck you Soldier Boy!” and spits on him. It’s so crazy Soldier Boy was the Homelander and Crimson was the Maeve of their time. Solider Boy mistakes fear,control,and power over his teammates and his “girlfriend” for love,loyalty,and respect. I wish we saw more scenes of Crimson and Solider Boy in their youth
He was portrayed as a bad guy overall but it wasn’t until his death I realized he wasn’t so bad compared to the others. He only killed for Vought and in his mind his victims weren’t innocent. A great story doesn’t just have good guys & bad guys.
@CountSnowbury homelander did like him , he was the only one homelander pretty much loved and cared about the most. Just noir was keeping the secret of soldier boy being his dad from him broke his trust , as you could see homelander was visually upset . Homelander has praised noir more than anyone in the whole show
@@spicymeatballs2thespicening because he was being beat into a pulp, wdym. This entire show is almost hard to watch. Not everyone is a senseless desensitized person yknow? Some people are normal
And remember that Noir has super healing abilities too. So he either delibarately chose to lot heal his head or Solider Boy is so strong that he injured him beyond recovery.
The brain cannot be healed so easily. Nerve cells do not reproduce after a few years into your childhood, and the entire thing is complex enough that it can’t be simply healed without consequence. Even if the organ itself regenerates, I wouldn’t be surprised if some parts of the brain don’t function even after regenerating. And that’s the scary part. Imagine having super regeneration to the point of immortality, but you can easily still be at risk of turning into a vegetable.
I think in this universe some type of damage is irreversible. Like what homelander son did to Stormfront. And like others mentioned: he lost lots of brain mass
@@raulbarros8077 I think the regeneration, strength and resistance V gives varies a lot, kimiko can regenerate limbs, stormfront can't, sister sage only regenerates her brain, black noirs regeneration probably wasn't strong since you can still see his skin was burnt when meave unmasks him so he probably cant regrow stuff like limbs or brain
The plan probably was for the twins too set him up for mindstorm. Then have BN and the others hold him down and gas him. Obviously emtions got in the way, and costed BN half his face and mind
i reaaaally hope noir somehow shows up in the next season. it seems unlikely but he deserved more screentime 😞 he and frenchie were my favorites through the entire show
Really cool how they gave Noir all this backstory, screen time, and pathos, only to have none of this matter to the narrative or resolution of the plot.
One of the best pieces of Tv ever , the loneliness , the imaginary friends. , His accelerated breathing when the fight with soldier boys plays , the deep feelings without even a word , all of this plays in his mind and we get to experience it ... Fantastic , absolutely fantastic 2 episodes arc
A small detail that really stuck with me for some reason was how BN mentions that everyone will go along with the plan and betray SB except Gunpowder. He may have been a despicable side character, but that line alone showed that he was truly loyal to SB. And SB probably never even realised it. Kind of sad in a way.
@@alas6260 It sounds like what happened was that he beat Gunpowder, just like he beat everyone else, and the story was spun out by other people, but of course we don't know for sure. Gunpowder says the abuse was never sexual in the show, but he could just be lying.
@@nickkerber1145 be probably saw it as, how he describes it, “hazing.” He most likely never realized how awful he was towards them until later in life.
This makes me feel so bad for BN. But the self-talk/flashback itself, it is inspiring for his character. I was initially put off by the style for a moment the first time upon viewing, but it is absolutely perfect for him, and when you realize why it makes your heart bleed.
@@spoonodid you see the pure yap noir was doing in season 4? Absolutely a new guy, vought pulled a power rangers where it could be anyone in the suit lol
@@jammo7370 wonder who it could be though, like clearly it's some supe seeing as he exploded someone's head like a watermelon with a bat with minimal effort
@@spoono probably a random schmuck vought found with super strength. with how much he’s asking about direction for his character, he seems VERY new to being a celeb supe
noir was so sweet to me in the midst of these few episodes, and this flashback actually made SB fucking terrifying to me, it shows how he was what homelander was before homelander.
This humanized him so much for me. Dude is an example of authority bias and resentment. he could get rid of his abuser while still sticking to the status quo. Truly he was a lamb herded in the wrong direction.
1:21 GUYS I can’t be the only one that saw this, his brain came out, and last I check, that’s usually an automatic I am dead, not I am disabled now, And from homelander which was super sad to see, isn’t it possible that he COULD have survived that? He literally got his head bashed and hes about as strong as homelander let alone the fact he was atleast able to make him bleed with just a punch, isn’t it possible Black Noir is alive from this? maybe hes got another PTSD but looking back, if he survived his brain coming out, then maybe having his organs out isn’t really gonna kill him? maybe he just bled out from the loss of blood BUT comes back because hes super human!
@@DirtyMike124x reading these make me want to try shrooms again. Last time was high-school and I remember it being really relaxing. LSD tablets are cool too
@@josiahgonzalez942 Microdosing is an option as well if you wanted to maintain lucidity and function. I tend to keep the dose lower unless I'm positive nothing will come up, and I have nothing essential to do. Doesn't have to be a true "microdose" either. Even small doses can add some real color to the day, and encourage outside the box thought.
The fact that Mindstorm punched Soldier Boy 1:01 and drew blood... is kinda scary, that would make him one of the most powerful supes on earth, having not only the power to control the minds of whoever look into his eyes but also injure a man who could withstand (and later generate) a nuclear explosion head on.
Yeah I think that blood was only wishful thinking on Black Noir's part. I wouldn't trust the minutiae of the details of his recollection given the state of his brain
Dam this scene went deep, anyone else tear up 😢when Buck the Beaver and his imaginary friends all support him that line "It's okay. Bravery isn't having no fear. Bravery is having fear but you do it anyway." one of most memorable scenes in the series 🔥🔥
It has that cartoon-level graphic to it, while also keeping the depraved violence and unhinged energy. Except this is actually good because of the background and development to the characters.
You know we may not even be seeing the full picture as young Stan Edgar was played by Justiin Davis but in Noir’s flashback he is voiced by Giancarlo Esposito. Sure that may have just been a small oversight but I think it means Noir’s memory was damaged when Soldier Boy bashed his head in with the shield
I love how Noir likes Homelander because he messes with everyone but him, & hates Soldier Boy because he messed with him. Nice to see where his priorities lye
Seeing Nior personify himself as a black sheep is a hell of a detail. reflects his feelings about his early days position in Payback and Vaught as a whole.
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Here I thought BN couldnt tell us anything about how payback got rid of Soldier Boy. This was truly creative. Eric Kripke and his team are making a unique tv show in every way. Not to mention this made Black Noir more popular than he ever was.
How does a post with over 300 likes not have a single comment, let’s change that
Facts. Let's change that
Change it now damnit!
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@@ARobotIsMe Scramble his f---in likes, Mindstorm!
I like how they were creative at making flashback that instead of wasting a lot of budget, they decided to make a cartoon animation portraying how they defeated soldier boy which is quite practical.
Animation is expensive
Lol, the animation looks good, and animation by itself is costly
Ohh, sorry so you mean CGI that can be used in flashback is way more cheaper and the actors that will be pay to be involve in the scene definitely cut a lot of costing?
Animation may just be more expensive than live action, not a hundred percent sure but it’s possible for sure
@@janterri3539 In some cases it is yeah
Low key the "bravery isn't having no fear bravery is having fear but you do it anyways" quote could be a genuine hero quote and it felt like it would be a change of heart for BN to become a real "hero"
I was really hoping BN would join the Boys next season and try to take down Vought/homelander
@@hackysackofficial well, the creators did say BN as a hero was going to make a return. Maybe this new BN will do the original some justice.
Am I the only one that doesn't think he died? It seemed like he'd survived such worse than having some intestines pulled out.
Unfortunately it's incorrect by definition. Bravery is acting without fear. Courage is acting in despite of fear.
Best quote ever.
Bro I love how they easily made me care for a guy with zero character In the last 2 seasons
This episode won me over and made me hyped to see Black Noir finish things off
Only for the gut wrenching reality that that's never gonna happen
Beautiful 2 episode Arc
I was telling my gf the same thing. Insane how BN became my favorite after this
"gut wrenching" 💀💀bro
"gut wrenching" oh the irony lol
@@smolltaco5667 ha
That wasn't even intentional
@@thedudecalledalan9095 lol thats somehow funnier
Edgar asserting dominance by eating almonds will never not be funny to me😂
It's a power move, for certain
@@monicamclaughlin3494
Well said, Monica Mclaughlin... Seems that moment *Stan Edgar's asserting his dominance by eating almonds* feels like a 'power move' as you're said right then...?
@@monicamclaughlin3494 it's like a better version of what Jessie Esenberg's Lex luthor was trying to do in Batman vs Superman with those Jolly Ranchers by putting them inside some guy's mouth.
It's probably also for his protection against Black Noir. Edgar was a smart man.
@@FalconOnFilm black noir was a bootlicker for Vought so I don't think Edgar ever needed protection from him.
The fact that Black Noir never got a chance to fight Soldier Boy makes me sad.
They probably will bring him back. Don't know 100% but maybe.
@@LuisLopez-fq5sz At best, they'll likely bring in another, different Black Noir
Na it’d actually be worse if Black noir got his 2nd chance bc hed be whooped by a stronger soldier boy w a new power.
@@OnePressMan yeah but it would’ve been a more satisfying death
@@OnePressMan solder boy is superhuman just like homelander except if he didn’t have powers and had chest beam and black noir is ultimately the same but with no actual powers and black noir tanked an explosion no problem basically solder boy is just going to use chest beam every 5 seconds
Nice detail that for the confrontation, Black Noir isn’t wearing his helmet like he always wanted. And it costs him his face, dooming him to wear the helmet for the rest of his life.
Shit
He was an awesome character:’(
Jesus, poor Noir. Even the cartoon has you feel how brutal that attack was.
I mean cartoon did a much better job at showing how brutal it was than live action
I must be the only one who sees payback in the wrong here. Soldier boy was much less horrible than homelander and the team decides to defend him in the end? After all that? It's not enough to drive me away from season 4, but its ridiculous honestly.
@jaydonthomas427 I don't think they realized the implication at the time. Anything was better than soldier boy to them because he was so brutal to them. Plus he may or may not have molested gunpowder
@@BigChonk567yeah no one could have predicted what HL would become nor did they have any say over his upbringing. They also didn't know he was SB son. The tragedy here is that everyone is being taken advantage of. Everyone. That's why things are so bad. Vought is the big bad of this story not HL and SB.
@@marquistf1996ehhhh HL is kinda bad soldier boy was just a product of his time
Mindstorm trapped him in an endless nightmare but the only difference is soldier boy will never die of dehydration. He was stuck there until he broke out of it in his own mind. That's pretty badass
Really? I thought he was being kept in a chamber with that russian gas
@@quensoueu1 he was but mindstorm put him in a trance shortly before the gas. It means that he was in an endless nightmare until he came to. You can't wake up someone who's under mindstorms power. Only mindstorm can so that means soldier boy got out of it on his own when they were torturing him and he killed several guysbefore they gassed him again
@Basedlander well we saw it. It was the last thing done to him before crimson countess put the gas on him
@@DrumCoversFromHell mindstorm was not able to put him in a trance because he closed his eyes and avoided it. If he had been in a trance the entire time he was with the Russians, he wouldn't have remembered any of it, and therefore wouldn't have been able to have the PTSD flashbacks. Soldier Boy was knocked out with the gas, from Scarlet Girl.
Mindstorm's psychic abilities are crazy strong but SB anger alone helped him mentally fight back
Man the actor for Black Noir was superb in this scene. Without saying a single word, only expressing through body language you can see the all his emotions he goes through as the cartoon played out.
Thought you meant the cartoon version for a sec
Yeah, Nathan Mitchell has done an incredible job with his silent acting as OG Black Noir so far, and he was able to seamlessly switch to the ridiculous talking Black Noir 2.0 in season 4 as well.
@@p.a.681"Pantomime is a sacred art, really"
Noir hallucinating about the talking animals and not being able to talk himself makes sense due to the massive amount of brain damage he received. The fact that he was able to hold on to this amount of insanity is nothing short of a miracle.
Those are not hallucinations, he imagines cartoons to make feel himself more safe and calmed
@prodyakshi a hallucination is imagination, so what's your point?
@@victorykingpin3674 Not exactly, hallucinations are a symptom of schizophrenia, which caracterizes by images, sounds or senses that are not real and the person is not aware of the fact that those things are not real. They think that those things are real, therefore they accept it as reality even if others try to tell em the truth. In that same way, it's not only hallucinations but a serie of other affective symptoms such as emotional disorders. Noir, just imagine cartoons, knowing they are not real, just like a normal thought to make himself feel safe, he is aware that those are thoughts and it's himself saying that he will be okay. In the show, the cartoons are shown as schizophrenia-like images or representations just to make the audience see what is happening inside his head.
@@prodskydroz how do you know that he doesn't see them as we see them? And I'm fairly sure Black Noir realizes they aren't real. So, why do you feel the need to correct the original commenter about this? Its abit of a petty nitpick
@@victorykingpin3674 wdym by he doesn't seem them as we see them, that's nonsense with what i said. aw im not correcting anyone, just saying haha
So just out of curiosity, how many were upset that we didn't get one last fight between Soldier Boy and Black Noir
Me, Noir was my favorite character :(
Noir's death was awful writing. Maeve and Soldier Boy should have died in his place.
I am, mostly because this technically amount to nothing in the end. Like the presentation. Though we can already guess what happened without by what the other's have said and how the basic flashback of the woman had with Soldier boy and the other heros.
So as much as I like this. This was basically pointless knowing he gets one shoted off by Homelander. Real let down to be honest.
I was hoping that noir would get redemption and almost kill soldier boy, but homelander stops him cuz he's his father
It would’ve just been the same outcome as in the other flashback
what makes this fight scary in hindsight is that Payback won out of pure luck, if it wasn’t for Mindstorm, Soldier Boy would have crushed them all like bugs and even though it was all in cartoon form, the idea of Soldier Boy looking that angry and remorseless while violently mangling Black Noir is genuinely creepy and off putting, no wonder why Payback and especially Noir were scared out of their minds when they heard Soldier Boy has returned, he was just THAT dangerous
If it was a fight between pure powers, soldier boy would have destroyed them, lucky they had that gas to knock him out.
he was just a douchbag homelander but worse
The reason he looked so angry is because they betrayed him and hanged up on him.
@@BruceWayne-fj9bm
So then, Brucie... They're *just betrayed him and hanged-up on him* (Soldier Boy 🦅) alright 🤔?
@@BruceWayne-fj9bmHard to call it a betrayal when he beat the living shit out of them for years. He deserved this fate 10 times over.
This black noir cartoon backstory is a masterpiece.
Indeed so, Damian Starks...😏
I want to see an entire show based off Black Noir’s cartoon backstory
@@elenastojanovic609 yeah I want to see that too
@@elenastojanovic609
And so, are you *pretty sure about this* , Elena Stojanović 🤔🧐?
Was Ralph Bakshi involved in this episode?
Nice detail having Grey Griffin voicing those birds. Grey has voiced many beloved characters from many fan favorite tv shows, so it makes easier to empathize with Noir who considers Buster beaver and all those characters his friends and it also hints that Black Noir has a childish side to him that makes him more loveable. Unlike homelander and his childish antics
doubt they put any more thought into it than "She is a popular voice actress and we need a voice actress"
i never would've noticed it was grey griffin!! 😮😮😮❤❤
@Rick King 22
...and *VICKY* too!!
@Rick King 22
You know that means, Ricky...😏😎
He doesn’t have a childish side. His brain was bashed back to pre-adolescence
black noir’s backstory is easily the best change from the comics to the show.
I love how the cartoon animals actually carry a lot more symbolism then one catches at first glance. Like how Black Noir is the black sheep of the group, Gunpowder represented by the Pig. Stan Edgar as the weasel or rat…
Especially the Eagle who portrays Soldier Boy
the american eagle , what would homelander be? the Californian bear maybe@@TheDarkarrow7
@@errorcode0100 or a Lion
@@errorcode0100 Another bald eagle, cause he's his son
hilarious
Ok so they censor the F word, but watching Noir's face be literally melted off is ok....
RUclips be like
I assume RUclips detects audio better than video.
Yep.
Can see kids get shot in media, but God forbid we hear an F bomb.
The sh word isn't censored either
I felt absolutely nothing for Noir until these scenes. I know he did any and everything for Vought and it was wrong. But they did such a good job making me feel empathy for him so much that I cried after his ending. After not liking him at all for 2 seasons, suddenly I saw him in such a different light knowing he was brain damaged by Soldier Boy and can’t speak anymore, still traumatized as well. I would have never expected this to be his backstory. The writers are so talented honestly.
No sympathy for him, He betrayed his team leader and got what he deserved.
@@lightchamber2186 his team leader just so happened to be a piece of shit. betrayal was inevitable
I keep replaying “Get him Mindstorm! Scramble his fuckin brain!”
Some of the best line delivery I’ve heard
Me too
His ability worked on you too
Bro I can’t stop too, the way he says it is dramatic 🤣🤣🤣
Right? It just sounds cool
Bravery isn't not haveing fear, it's having fear and doing it anyway. Truely a hero.
02:10
But you du du du do it anyway
the way the TNT twin says "get him mindstorm scramble his fuckin brains" feels so raw some great voice acting 1:26
This show is far better then the comics.
W
Than, not then.
@@227someguy Get a life grammar geek.
@@227someguyshut
Well after reading the comics i would say this is a rare case of the original work sucking and the new version being what they would've been
Black Noir was the best character in the entire show. Gonna miss him a lot.
how
@@thespellalchemist2723
But then, does that "a psychopath who has supported all of Vought Corporation's sinister agendas" seems pretty maligned isn't it?
@@thespellalchemist2723
Yeah... So that's pretty much a *character's description of one Soldier Boy* 🦅💥 right here...
He’ll be back. I have a feeling.
@@sonfroku420
Alright then... So *he'll gonna be back* right now 😰?
I like how black noir even remembers what Stan was eating that day, but not what he sounded like back then. Maybe because he still communicated with Stan after the fall or something.
0:54 Soldier boy: What the *bleep* is this
When he stabbed the shield into the back of his head, you can literally feel it.
I just realized what was really going on, in Mallory's flashback Payback was killing her own men rather than the enemy while Soldier Boy was killing the bad guys, this was cause they didn't want anyone to see what they were doing.
Holy crap, I legit never thought of that. It makes so much more sense, and bothers me that I didn't really understand how to put those 2 contradictions together before. I thought Mallory was just lying to them again.
I don’t get why they left her alive tho, especially since she witnessed the countess, noir, and gunpowder kill her men
@@camerongreene3357 I think she just assumed they were all idiots
@@SirToaster9330 yeah she did, she said something along those lines when describing payback being there
Easily the most memorable part of the series for me.
I keep rewatching how Crimson has the final move on Soldier Boy and 1:32 - 1:43 she says F*ck you Soldier Boy!” and spits on him. It’s so crazy Soldier Boy was the Homelander and Crimson was the Maeve of their time. Solider Boy mistakes fear,control,and power over his teammates and his “girlfriend” for love,loyalty,and respect. I wish we saw more scenes of Crimson and Solider Boy in their youth
"bravery isn't having no fear, bravery is having fear but still doing it anyway"
Mind Storm’s the GOAT, literally
He would have made a great season long villian with his powers. I feel like they kinda gave him a quick end because the guy was super OP
I really wish he had more scenes
Crimson Countess is a FOX. Literally.
He was portrayed as a bad guy overall but it wasn’t until his death I realized he wasn’t so bad compared to the others. He only killed for Vought and in his mind his victims weren’t innocent. A great story doesn’t just have good guys & bad guys.
ye right, he fucking massacred people in lagos
His only issue was trusting in Voight and thinking Homelander liked him.
@CountSnowbury homelander did like him , he was the only one homelander pretty much loved and cared about the most. Just noir was keeping the secret of soldier boy being his dad from him broke his trust , as you could see homelander was visually upset . Homelander has praised noir more than anyone in the whole show
@@kaiwilliams3033
Indeed, Kai: So it seems that the Homelander's *pretty much loved and really cares about Black Noir* right then...
Using schizophrenic hallucinations as a mean of backstory exposition is a stroke of genius
Is he actually schizophrenic? I thought they were just a coping mechanism or something like that
@@broggy52yeah I always thought it was due to the brain damage that caused him to have imaginary friends instead of schizophrenia
@@broggy52 hes not lol dont know what this person is talking about
This soldier boy is far better than the comics counterpart
This scene was so sad but also one of the best
This wasn't easy to watch. It was quite saddening.
Why
Same
@@spicymeatballs2thespicening why to what.
@@the_honored_one_06 why was it hard to watch
@@spicymeatballs2thespicening because he was being beat into a pulp, wdym. This entire show is almost hard to watch. Not everyone is a senseless desensitized person yknow? Some people are normal
And remember that Noir has super healing abilities too. So he either delibarately chose to lot heal his head or Solider Boy is so strong that he injured him beyond recovery.
The brain cannot be healed so easily. Nerve cells do not reproduce after a few years into your childhood, and the entire thing is complex enough that it can’t be simply healed without consequence.
Even if the organ itself regenerates, I wouldn’t be surprised if some parts of the brain don’t function even after regenerating.
And that’s the scary part. Imagine having super regeneration to the point of immortality, but you can easily still be at risk of turning into a vegetable.
@@ThisIsntARUclipsr well when its burned it stops healing as well
I think in this universe some type of damage is irreversible.
Like what homelander son did to Stormfront.
And like others mentioned: he lost lots of brain mass
@@raulbarros8077 I think the regeneration, strength and resistance V gives varies a lot, kimiko can regenerate limbs, stormfront can't, sister sage only regenerates her brain, black noirs regeneration probably wasn't strong since you can still see his skin was burnt when meave unmasks him so he probably cant regrow stuff like limbs or brain
For some reason, outta everything that happened this season, this fucked me up the most
Yea this was messed up.
@@rickmorty5215
*Messed-up to the core* right there, Ricky...😗
Why didn't they start with the mind control? Was he too strong initially?
Yeah he had a resistance to it, that’s why even when he got hit with it he didn’t go down like anybody else would
Probably wasn’t distracted and they wanted there licks in before finishing the job
Bro look at Soldier Boy....All of them charged on him together and he threw all of them...You really think Mindstorm could do shit to him all alone?
The plan probably was for the twins too set him up for mindstorm. Then have BN and the others hold him down and gas him. Obviously emtions got in the way, and costed BN half his face and mind
Yeah, I think the TNT ray was probably the strongest single hit move they had so that's why they chose to start with it
After reading about what Noir is like in the comics man do I appreciate what the show did with him
i reaaaally hope noir somehow shows up in the next season. it seems unlikely but he deserved more screentime 😞 he and frenchie were my favorites through the entire show
I heard that Black Noir is done but the actor that played him would do a different character.
He dead. But pretty sure sam from gen v gonna be bn 2.0
Really cool how they gave Noir all this backstory, screen time, and pathos, only to have none of this matter to the narrative or resolution of the plot.
Modern shows in a nutshell. Bad writing
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 Old shows were just as crap as new ones.
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 no fucking way you're stupid enough to think that The Boys has bad writing
you fool, sometimes characters don't have the grand ending.
@@anonymousanimal5179cap lmao
One of the best pieces of Tv ever , the loneliness , the imaginary friends. , His accelerated breathing when the fight with soldier boys plays , the deep feelings without even a word , all of this plays in his mind and we get to experience it ... Fantastic , absolutely fantastic 2 episodes arc
1:39 kinda ironic since she had to go behind him and basically knock him out
How exactly
@@Frostknight231 its like the old saying of if you shoot someone in the back your a coward
@@mulletmayhem3812e And on top of that, it was a fox that attacked from behind
A small detail that really stuck with me for some reason was how BN mentions that everyone will go along with the plan and betray SB except Gunpowder. He may have been a despicable side character, but that line alone showed that he was truly loyal to SB. And SB probably never even realised it. Kind of sad in a way.
Didn't sb fingered gunpowder,and also he was a minor in that time so
@@alas6260 no just beat him up to make him to scared to betray
@@alas6260 It sounds like what happened was that he beat Gunpowder, just like he beat everyone else, and the story was spun out by other people, but of course we don't know for sure. Gunpowder says the abuse was never sexual in the show, but he could just be lying.
@@nickkerber1145 be probably saw it as, how he describes it, “hazing.” He most likely never realized how awful he was towards them until later in life.
Y’all gotta realize . Once mindstorm looks at you. You’re done. Soldier boy was fighting it.
I’m not sure mindstorm even used his trick until the end of the fight, which was quite dumb
@@dankgankster4100 If he had reason to believe Soldier Boy could resist it, it made perfect sense to wait for a moment of vulnerability instead.
@@Emidretrauqe you right
This makes me feel so bad for BN. But the self-talk/flashback itself, it is inspiring for his character. I was initially put off by the style for a moment the first time upon viewing, but it is absolutely perfect for him, and when you realize why it makes your heart bleed.
The beaver's stuttering cracks me up for some reason.
Yeah he kinda reminds me of Porky Pig 😂
It's honestly a shame we never got to see black noir confront soldier boy again
He would have been killed the same way Homelander killed him
@@RX7821979 wouldve actually been a fight instead of the donut special
@@RX7821979doubt it
@@RX7821979not really it would've took way longer. He couldn't kill noir earlier with so many brutal hits earlier
That Beaver is someone I feel we've all needed to give us a pep talk from time to time
In a show with so much graphic violence, it's the cartoon violence that feels so meaningful
I love the line
"Scramble his fucking Brains"
Never expected Black Noir to be the most relatable member of the Seven but here we are
He lived without part of his brain. Wonder if he could live without some/ most of his guts. Hope to see him in season 4. My favourite character
U have no idea how right u were
@@TITan_boiman2goldthat's not him though is it
@@spoonodid you see the pure yap noir was doing in season 4? Absolutely a new guy, vought pulled a power rangers where it could be anyone in the suit lol
@@jammo7370 wonder who it could be though, like clearly it's some supe seeing as he exploded someone's head like a watermelon with a bat with minimal effort
@@spoono probably a random schmuck vought found with super strength. with how much he’s asking about direction for his character, he seems VERY new to being a celeb supe
It would be great if you drop the bloopers today😩
Have they posted them before?
@@sirmel11 They have posted the bloopers of season 1&2 on this channel. They are very entertaining tbh and I can't wait for the new ones :)
@@yelizguler4298 Thanks!
Man, I would’ve love to see Black Noir’s rematch against soldier boy
“Bravery isn’t having no fear, bravery is having fear, but you do it anyway”
noir was so sweet to me in the midst of these few episodes, and this flashback actually made SB fucking terrifying to me, it shows how he was what homelander was before homelander.
0:35
Fun fact:This was what that lady in episode four over heard.
Grace mallory
Episode 3
If they renew Diabolical for another season?
That would've been awesome if they made an episode based on those animated characters :D
I thought black noir was gonna actually do something noble and dignified, stoping soldier boy. But man did they do him dirty
I knew they were gonna do him dirty as soon as they showed his face
@@thelegacyofgaming2928oh because black people are eternal victims?
Black Noir being a black sheep is some interesting symbolism
It breaks my heart knowing that the guy he really should have been afraid of was the guy he's been working with all along.
They were both trash. BN should've went his own way
Literally Is The Most Gruesome And Badass Supervillan I've Ever Seen
1:17 Gets Spooked Over Sheep Him Getting Bonked By A Sheld
Seeing Giancarlo Esposito as an animal is hilarious
I want to see squirrel Giancarlo Esposito get blown up by broccoli Mark Margolis.
@@juanjoyaborja.3054 lol cause he’s a vegetable
he should be a chicken tho, as an easter egg to breaking bad lol
@@troopers0312 lol right. That would have been too funny
@@vintagejock3951
Eee-he-he-heh...😁 That's would have been *too funny to watch, especially as a chicken* 🐓 right then...😆🤣🤣
Man the new Avengers is a lot more brutal.
“Realistic” is the word lol
Better than She-Hulk twerking while complaining about how hard her life is
Marvel is sh*t
@@lolstalgic9602 yeah what a waste of garbage
@@lolstalgic9602 yeah what a waste of garbage
I like how the used old man Edgar’s voice for his younger animated self, helps us determine that it’s him
But I rather they'd use young stan's actor from Mallory's perspective flashback instead for consistency
Poor Noir :( behind that mask he’s just as scared and sensitive as anyone.
This humanized him so much for me. Dude is an example of authority bias and resentment. he could get rid of his abuser while still sticking to the status quo. Truly he was a lamb herded in the wrong direction.
Mindstorm is the most terrifying hero in that show
Okay not to be dramatic, but I fucking love Black Noir, and he needs a hug. Like we need to protect this man from the others.
1:21
GUYS I can’t be the only one that saw this, his brain came out, and last I check, that’s usually an automatic I am dead, not I am disabled now, And from homelander which was super sad to see, isn’t it possible that he COULD have survived that? He literally got his head bashed and hes about as strong as homelander let alone the fact he was atleast able to make him bleed with just a punch, isn’t it possible Black Noir is alive from this? maybe hes got another PTSD but looking back, if he survived his brain coming out, then maybe having his organs out isn’t really gonna kill him? maybe he just bled out from the loss of blood BUT comes back because hes super human!
I wish we got to see the fight in "irl" instead of the animation but it is good too! Creative.
I like how it took a whole squad to take down soilder boy
2:03
I watched this show for the first time on LSD last month, and the stuttering had me laughing until there were hot tears running down my face.
Glad I wasn't on a dose for this scene. Phew lol
@@DirtyMike124x reading these make me want to try shrooms again. Last time was high-school and I remember it being really relaxing. LSD tablets are cool too
@@josiahgonzalez942 Microdosing is an option as well if you wanted to maintain lucidity and function. I tend to keep the dose lower unless I'm positive nothing will come up, and I have nothing essential to do.
Doesn't have to be a true "microdose" either. Even small doses can add some real color to the day, and encourage outside the box thought.
This whole thread is yikes
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 such a nothing burger comment.
Yikes.
Even in cartoon style, it's brutal asf. Poor Noir :(
The fact that Mindstorm punched Soldier Boy 1:01 and drew blood... is kinda scary, that would make him one of the most powerful supes on earth, having not only the power to control the minds of whoever look into his eyes but also injure a man who could withstand (and later generate) a nuclear explosion head on.
Yeah I think that blood was only wishful thinking on Black Noir's part. I wouldn't trust the minutiae of the details of his recollection given the state of his brain
0:18 I recognized Gustavo’s voice so fast 😭😂 from breaking bad
Dam this scene went deep, anyone else tear up 😢when Buck the Beaver and his imaginary friends all support him that line "It's okay. Bravery isn't having no fear. Bravery is having fear but you do it anyway." one of most memorable scenes in the series 🔥🔥
Unironically one of the most brutal scenes in the show for me and its a cartoon
1:12 This Is Fucking Brutal As Hell
I'd watch a whole show of these guys doing stuff like this for each episode
Why did this kinda remind me of happy tree friends but really good
took the words right out of my mouth, it reminded me of that too
It has that cartoon-level graphic to it, while also keeping the depraved violence and unhinged energy. Except this is actually good because of the background and development to the characters.
0:34
Should’ve been eating Pollos Hermanos. Now THAT would’ve been FUNNY!
If only he wore his helmet during that fight
It would of helped?
His face would not have burned, but he still would be losing part of his brain.
@@lightchamber2186 oh ok thank you
I love Mindstorm's attire. So freaking cool
I don’t like how they just kinda killed him after this.
You know we may not even be seeing the full picture as young Stan Edgar was played by Justiin Davis but in Noir’s flashback he is voiced by Giancarlo Esposito. Sure that may have just been a small oversight but I think it means Noir’s memory was damaged when Soldier Boy bashed his head in with the shield
It’s crazy that Noir barely had a personality before this. He had a really fulfilling character arc in like two episodes
What you're expecting when this sequence starts: Loony Tunes
What you actually got: Happy Tree Friends
I went from hating him to sympathizing with him in one episode. And they did it with cartoons
I love how Noir likes Homelander because he messes with everyone but him, & hates Soldier Boy because he messed with him. Nice to see where his priorities lye
He was told Homelander would fix everything.
Then he had his brains bashed in.
He’s clinging to hope as he has lost touch with reality
Homelander doesn't mess with him (until, yk) because he was the only one who got shit done right (for Vought)
Seeing Nior personify himself as a black sheep is a hell of a detail. reflects his feelings about his early days position in Payback and Vaught as a whole.
great imagine if live action
Yes, lets beep out the bad words but show an animated sheep getting his brain crushed, thanks youtube guidelines.
Something about noir just wanting to feel safe with soldier boy gone and losing his ability to speak and basically turning disabled because of it
It's such a trip hearing Giancarlo Esposito's voice coming out of a cartoon animal.
Bro I miss old noir so much
if soldier boy is coming back, noir gotta come back. his story isn't over.