John Mearsheimer: The West is playing Russian roulette
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2024
- UnHerd's Freddie Sayers meets political scientist John Mearsheimer, the world-famous proponent of realism in international relations. Recorded in London on Monday 28th November 2022.
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// TIMECODES //
00:00 - 00:47 - Introduction
00:47 - 05:28 - John Mearsheimer’s view of how the West forced Russia into its current position.
05:28 - 09:37 - What is the difference between a realist and a realistic view of the war?
09:37 - 14:27 - At what point would the West resist Russian aggression?
14:27 - 21:41 - What is the most likely outcome of the Ukraine War?
21:41 - 28:07 - What would happen if Putin used nuclear weapons?
28:07 - 33:47 - How has the UK responded to the crisis?
33:47 - 38:51 - How does the Monroe Doctrine apply to the U.S?
38:51 - 46:02 - Russia’s invasion in February
46:02 -49:45 - Is there a crisis on the horizon between China and Taiwan?
49:45 - 55:51 - Is it in the strategic interests of the US to send forces to defend Taiwan?
55:51 - 01:03:14 - Why did John Mearsheimer go to Hungary?
01:03:14 - 01:09:08 - Does Mearsheimer worry about being perceived as an activist?
01:09:08 - 01:17:13 - Concluding thoughts
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"People are not interested these days in talking about facts and logic. What people prefer ist to smear people who they disagree with"
So true... 😞
You better study the parable of the cave before you talk about logic. Logic depends on one’s starting point, and people emotions are not rational, ergo logic does not apply. I will not go through life depending on the whims of a infant, such as Putin.
Aka west democracy hehe
@@hoekoktong9099
Eastern authoritarians just murder their own citizens based on stupid ideologies and power hunger.
@@jons4418 bs - western maniacs war machines wreaking country and brought misery hardship to peoples of ME SA and world at large
@@hoekoktong9099 you are responsible for your own misery and so is Xi. Freedom of expression in the orient is much more limited than it is here in almost every country, and that is one of the most important tools we have to make the world a better place. You are on a site right now where you can give your own real opinions. You can’t do that in most places in the orient.
There’s a real misconception about Russian intentions. Russia went in to a country of 45 million with less than 200k soldiers. Comparable invasions to conquer land were waged with over 1million soldiers. Also they didn’t attack civilian infrastructure, which is entirely unheard of in war. I think Russia assumed this would be seen as a signal to the west that their aims were limited and geared towards negotiations, but they were thrown back by our response to basically destroy Russia. This forced Russia to retreat a bit while they strengthen their forces and build a new plan. Our response has given russia no choice but to reck ukr, as we currently see mobilization and for the first time, power being destroyed in ukr. Our “support” for ukr has been the exact opposite. We are sacrificing ukr.
Exactly. And this miscalculation is my main question to our intelligence community and to Putin as well. Limited force was a bad idea. Well, it is what it is.
@@jettrd_utilitychnl4230 Well, up until Boris Johnson entered the fray, the low troop plan seemed to be working. Now, by the looks of things the strategy has changed significantly, the purpose/goal still appears to be the same, demilitarise and de nazify, their stated goals. Unstated goal, and possibly a secondary one is to restore Novorossiya.
The Russians are attacking Ukraine's infrastructure now, aren't they? The plan is to kill Ukrainians by freezing them. Russian didn't attack the infrastructure because they thought it would shortly be their infrastructure.
Exactly! I think prof. M. is wrong about Russia is loosing, Russia is desperate, etc… Russia is just starting. Russian economy is doing a lot better than the western economies. And they are turning things around militarily. It’s ukr and nato that are desperate. I am more concerned about ukr using a dirty bomb or shelling nuclear power plants just as they did in Zaporozhie.
"Oh no the country I invaded fought back, guess I'll just have to destroy it and try ro starve and freese everyone in the country. Why is NATO being so mean to me?"
“ there are no realistic options, we’re screwed” 😂 straight to the point.
Yep, the toothpaste is already out of the tube.
There's a third option, Russia wins in a conventional war while cautiously preventing direct war with NATO, which is what's currently happening.
@@muhammaDEsmustafa6 months later and that remains true.
@joshbell5387 That's what the Russian leadership was hoping to do, but unfortunately, I don't think it's going to work for that much longer (too many plots to try to provoke a bigger war last one being from Germany on the Crimea bridge, plus the Ukrainian state will crumble in an ugly way that produces too many flying sparks and leaves a big power vacuum). It probably all hinges on the upcoming US elections as to if there will be an escalation or a de-escalation.
@@joshbell5387 Now NATO will have a choice to make once the Ukrainian military/state eventually collapses, will they accept defeat in Ukraine and reach a diplomatic resolution or try to expand the war some way or the other to get NATO involved and reverse the defeat?
I'm a bit on the optimistic side and think they will accept defeat for now, but not indefinitely, at some point in the future there will be direct contact between Russia and NATO if the trajectory of events is not reversed.
The trigger for intervention might be a "cyber attack".
It amazes me how correct he is on the Russia/Ukraine situation and how wrong he is on the China/Taiwan issue. Unlike Ukraine, both china and taiwan both acknowledge that they basically have paused their civil war for decades. We have no business getting involved in China's civil war. Especially for the reasons The professor gives. He is for us going to war with China solely from a nationalist perspective so the US stays in control of the western hemisphere AND Asia. I completely respect his Ukraine analysis. it just amazes me that he then becomes a nationalist who is for going to war with China so the US remains in control of the current world order
imagine what happens when china calls united states of bananas out to free hawaii
When I first heard him say that I also was surprised but remember he is looking at the facts and forming a view as to what will happen. USA wants to stay on top, not by competing but by keeping everyone else down. Once you accept that you can clearly see how evil they are.
I mean at the end of the day he is a US scholar and he would put US interest at top priority. The thing is US can sacrifice Ukraine because even if Russia completely annex Ukr, there’s still Poland standing between the rest of Europe and Russia, so there’s a huge buffer zone of pro-western Polish who’s been at beef with Russia for centuries.
But in the case of Taiwan, losing Taiwan meaning China is having open gate to the Pacific Ocean, a Victory against Taiwan will give China unprecedented global power, reputation and influence. If that happens then it wont be long before Japan and S.Korea slowing leaning towards an Eastern-Asian sphere being led by China. If that happens then bye bye US status as a superpower. and US would never want that to happen. So to stop and inflict defeat on China in Taiwan is US best move to remain on top.
coming to the core of his world view, intl law does not matter, and only power matters. China has a legitimate claim to Taiwan, so what? You will not permit another guy snoring at your bedside, that is something the Chinese figured out a millenium ago.
@@crimsonfrozenheart Free Hawaii? Hawaiians want to be part of the US.
As a Russian, I can say that he has a very good understanding of the situation. What I don't see in the West in general.
you re a fckin russian leaving in a shithole. are you sure a human being?
The west is saturated with propaganda. Liars and hypocrites. After they stole that election, I knew Russia would bethe line in the sand. I knew and said it.
👍🏻
What the Russians need to understand is, that their Russian regime(s) is/are seen by evidence as 1st class bullies!
This has always been like that and might be like that in the future. And that‘s why no other nation wants to be or remain in a Russian led hemnisphere!
And other than the West leading Americans, the Russians have to offer the World nothing, nothing than dumb natural ressources - no ideas, no freedom, no civil rights, no innovations, no fun - just NOTHING (unfortubately)!
Of course, music to your ears when you hear that Russia’s invasion is really America’s fault. How reasonable!
“When I was a cadet, what’s the cadet motto at West Point? ‘You will not lie, cheat, or steal, or tolerate those who do.’ I was the CIA director, we lied, we cheated, we stole, we killed, and we assassinated. That’s, it was like, we had entire training courses.” - Mike Pompeo
In other words if you're a soldier, you have to be good at pretenses.
@@chicosonidero $$$ I$ RULED by Satan
Like any secret sercice. So what? Welcome to the real world.
My friend, as a West Point Cadet ( and I nearly attended there in the 60's but gained an army combat arms commission via ROTC instead), both of us had far more skin in the game in terms of actually experiencing combat than any neo con policy maker. Most of them, perhaps all , when the bullets and shells start to fly , are in the rear with the gear, all mouth as long as all the damage is experienced by others and elsewhere
Errrr. That's CIA's job description. Isn't it?
I love John Mersheimer! I have been following him since this thing started, he opened my eyes. The USA is not what it used to be.
I imagine that US in the past (pre-2000...roughly) and now; great difference though.
@@pier3800 The Clinton years got us here. That man is a lowlife.
No, its the same old US as we know it. Didn't have much time to change anyway. 2 centuries is not much in the calendar of world history.
(waiting for offended people, lol)
In all this discussion nobody mentioned that Ukraine was assured they would be protected if they gave up their nuclear weapons after the fall of the Soviet Union
Are they not ?🤣 billions of $$ of “protection arms”
Yes they are but many people are critical of this and they have no idea of the historical promises made to them
It is called the Budapest Memorandum
“When exposing a crime is treated as committing
a crime, you are being ruled by criminals.”
- Edward Snowden
***AMEN!!!***
@@Xogroroth666 When I was a cadet, what’s the cadet motto at West Point? ‘You will not lie, cheat, or steal, or tolerate those who do.’ I was the CIA director, we lied, we cheated, we stole, we killed, and we assassinated. That’s, it was like, we had entire training courses.” - Mike Pompeo, the former director of the CIA.
@@zakariyeyahye5566
And this is representing the ways of the US, sadly.
Indoctrinating the masses, lying to them, misinforming them, cheating on them, spying on them, killing them, propagandising them, sheepifying them, stupidifying them, de-intellectualising them, ... .
Think of the citizens criticizing the government in the sixties and seventies, killed under the guise of "known commie supporter.
If you do not as the government wants, you'll face the consequences.
Like it has always been.
"It's our way, or the graveyard."
That should become the motto on the flag.
And the US does this with EVERYONE.
This has a name, really ... :
it's called TYRANNY.
@@zakariyeyahye5566 About 8 years ago, I spoke with an old Vietnam vet, who said:
"I am ashamed being an American, seeing what the US has become. It once stood for justice, for the good. Alas, those days are in the past, and I shall die ashamed for what all became here."
@@Xogroroth666 "We came, we saw, he died." - Hillary Clinton.
She was talking about the Death of the former Libyan president, Muammar Gaddafi, on October 20, 2011, with an interview on CBS News channel.
For those who have not recently brushed up on their Roman history, that is a reference to Julius Caesar's famous line "veni, vidi, vici," which means "I came, I saw, I conquered."
Thank you for this sophisticated and nuanced discussion.
It is nice to be offered something other than propaganda.
Amen
You are more DUMB than I thought, THIS IS A British Propaganda like they used to be from the Early 1900s, Calm & Sophisticated. But full of Bull$hit
Mearsheimer is russian propaganda for US clowns and conspiracy lovers.
Let's say the war that Russia started is West's falt. Still Ukraine as state was no threat to russia, with all nuclear weapons and russian great army. No threat at all. Why start the genocidal war against a neighbor who's no threat.
Stupid fucks like Mearsheimer don't ask what Ukraine wants and wanted, also underestimated Ukrainians, who are fighting for the life. West has a lot to learn from Ukraine now, russian empire must will anyway, let's push it a bit
Propaganda is what I heard.
@@Longtack55 Propaganda on behalf of what and whom?
Prof. John Mearsheimer , is a real scholar who is using reason and integrity to convey his ideas . bravo !
Just another imperialist.
@@Leila-sd1sl Your statement is ridiculous, he's in academia... Pol stopped listening to academia a long time ago...
@@tia904 - what world you live in? Or you never have a real job or education. Majority of think tanks are academia and their ideas shape and influence every part of government and society.
@@Leila-sd1slDon’t open your dumb mouth without knowing who Mearsheimer is. You just joined RUclips 3 years ago. Mearsheimer already warned 8 years ago about there is potential conflict if NATO keeps expanding. Please just stfu.
Professor Meirsheimer doesn't explain precisely why Russia should reasonably think it was facing an existential threat. Was nato going to invade Russia? Nato was only a threat if Putin had offensive designs on Europe or didn't want a successful west leaning democracy on his doorstep. Neither are legitimate concerns if sovereignty means anything
He explained it, pay more attention. Also putin explained it multiple times in last 10 years in his speeches.
Also as i slav and them being slavs words and promises matter to us and they have weight. You lied or tried to sucker russia multiple times. So usa is not trustworthy, your words mean nothing but your actions still do.
"And maybe even breaking Russia up" as a talking point? Really, according to the likes of the Brooking institute and the Rand corporation, this is one of their stated goals!
Pursue that insane goal hard enough and the old adage of 'fuck around and find out' comes to mind.
The "Bland" cooperation.
Perfect well done 👏 give them that much so they can continue this, not more- the longer it will last the better!!.. Till last ukramiam right ..? As long they fall is fine! Can’t wait real numbers to fall 🥰 maybe after us could make some colonies there?😋 can’t wait for it ..😋
@@thadtuiol1717 THe phrase "Do you feel lucky punk" comes to mind.
Russia is a threat to the civilized World. Bunch of deranged Mongolian blooded Europeans threatening all their neighbors.
I am from Ukraine. This guy makes a lot of sense.
Amazing considering the amount of propaganda being spewed all over
Incorrect.
He IS sense.
Thank you though.
the wingcuckery in this thread is strong
@@Alfakatt "wingchuckery"
Please elaborate on the meaning of this word, please, I do not get it.
Do you mean a party-directional bias, per chance?
If that is the case:
No, sir.
Since, all parties committed this crime, since the 50's onward, without ending.
Cold War raged on, up to the moment Russia made the decision to invade.
WE (capitalist regions) CAUSED THIS INVASION, through continuously threatening Russia, wars (I think of for instance the Vietnam War, but there are others), Embargoes, blocking in various ways, rules, laws, depriving them of chance to evolve, meddling and most of all "Anti-Commie" propaganda which in continuity was heard from all sides.
Time to take responsibility for our (in)actions.
Politics is crime, politicians are criminals, no matter which side, or what country these came/come from.
think Bush SR:
Gulf War, for the price of oil, and cause the beginning of the Al Qauda terrorism, as the US/Europe rather went to war than to negotiate.
I wonder why, I mean, nuttin' wrong done there by us?
We are teh US, we take what we want, rite?
Bush JR:
Invading Iraq and getting on Syria's bad side, this through the logical and undisputable explanation based on scientific and military research:
"We ((rectified a part following here towards a more correct towards the facts explanation, red) "think that we agreed that we'll say that we") believe they have WMD's".
WMD's ... a land that can't even produce a flush system for toilets?
Well, I thought that it was, because Saddam gave poor bushy-Bush Jr a "foul look".
Well, I thought that ...
... until, they actually found nerve gas.
Stored the "found Sarin and Tabun Organophosphate Neurotoxins, as well as Mustard Gas", as per the accordingly normal use in Military Chemical Warfare science, RUSTED-THROUGH, LEAKY WATER BARRELS.
That is the conventional way to store Organophosphate Neurotoxins, rite?
Since, that was what the military showed us on that news broadcast?
Yes, oh boy, there must have been so much gas, there, in that one shed.
In the SHED, indeed, likely not so in them barrels, unless magic DOES exist.
Needed to contain this stuff in them barrels.
I could go on for weeks, but I am too lazy.
Either way:
Politics have been screwing with everything:
Education, Religion, Justice, Social Security, Medical Security, you name it.
Things they know NOTHING ABOUT.
Trump, with his IQ of a Caveman (as in:
that caveman's IQ at the time, and now, being dead for a wee while) meddling in medical affairs:
That went damn well, eh?
- Not putting up quarantine during the first outbreak.
- Saying, ever so thoughtless and carelessly, it just might be smart to use bleach as cure.
- or (hyperbole with fact) eat UV lights, since, UV kills thingies (he did not literally put it this way, but I can imagine, humans being so smart, they'd be adding a wee crunch on their next pizza).
Or how about his magnificent "anti-hurricane idea: "Nuke the storm's eye to disrupt the storm".
Yup, man's a genius.
Bring'm back.
Let's be honest:
What has politics done right, ESPECIALLY seeing the past 70 years?
Res ipsa loquitur, I requiem meam doleat.
Further more, there was no mentioning, if I recall correctly, of any political side.
It was generally speaking.
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Now, if "wingchuckery, then, meant something else, then ignore the above, and be so kind to teach me the meaning, please?
I am Flemish of language (Belgium), and Google was not too helpful either in that regard, hence.
Thank you.
From an American sorry our government is willing to destroy your country in their vendetta against Russia
What Mearsheimer is saying should not be considered controversial. What the US and UK are currently doing should be. I think it can only be explained by dominating lobbies that have come to the ascendancy, such as the sections of the military-Industrial- energy - financial complex in the US and its allies, and the Polish lobby in the US (which has led to an illogical security policy in Europe in the same manner the Israel lobby in the US has led to such a policy in the Micdle East), among others groups with outsized influence in the domestic US political process. For Johnson, the Ukraine War was a distraction from Brexit failures and Partygate.
It's sad to hear Professor John say that China is a competitor, or more accurately, an enemy, of the US.
As an average Chinese person, frankly speaking, I do not want to be anyone's enemy. Most Chinese merely want to live a good life, and they shouldn't have to put up with anyone else's bullying and humiliation.We Chinese love peace and like doing business with people all over the world.
Perhaps in the professor's view, the US is the best leader in the world, perhaps not perfect, but the only one who can keep the world less violent. So, you should damage the benefits of the Chinese?
I have to say that I disagree with Professor John's view on China. I do think that the US governments are not as "good" and "competent" as he thinks.
@appledaddy4139 I absolutely 💯 agree with your points here, and that China must respond to the US threats as strongly they would to defend your country and economy. 👏
Well, John said USA wants to be the only hegemony on the planet. Anyone questioning that even in their own region, is a thread to that thinking. They want to have and control all the money in the world and they will do that no matter the cost. And it has nothing to do with either liberties nor democracy, nor protecting people lives. It’s just greed.
虽然我们不想成为任何人的敌人，但是当别人侵略过来时，我们会反抗。在这个意义上，我们依然是美国人的敌人。
You’ve misunderstood Mearsheimer. The last thing he believes is that U.S. foreign policy is run by competent people.
Well, maybe if China chilled and left the surrounding nations alone they would have a leg to stand on.
...😆...Russia made the mistake of assuming that support within Ukraine would be such that negotiation would ensue and peace would be won. That was a costly mistake. Since then Russia has employed a pound and grind from a distance, avoiding the shock and awe approach in favour of preserving men and materiel and has been very successful in doing so. That said, it was absolutely necessary that enrolling more men into this conflict was necessary in order to finish it which has happened. The fall of Bakmut and the winter freeze will see the end game playing out.
There was a peace agreement in place all those months ago that was scuppered by the west for insane reasons. Since then hundreds of thousands of lives have been lost. This action will be seen as an atrocity perpetrated by the west for the sole purpose of breaking Russia apart.
Disgusting and repugnant.
Russias economic success and the Rise of BRICS et al threatens the World Dominance power of the American 💲 !
🇷🇺💲🇨🇳
You are either a Russian in disguise or an idiot. Your ability to consume fake news (perhaps from Russia) is amazing.
You are correct ...
I think in anything they underestimated the West's willingness to see Ukraine wrecked rather than urge them to reach a settlement with them.
Disgusting and Repugnant Indeed
Mearsheimer is on point on nearly everything except on the performance of the Russian military. Regarding the Russian military's performance in Ukraine best to consult the opinions of Col. MacGregor, Scott Ritter, Brian Berletic (The New Atlas), Ray McGovern, and the folks from The Duran.
Agreed. Mearsheimer would have a point if Russia were struggling to defeat the initial Ukrainian Army numbering around 200,000 soldiers with its own SMO force also numbering around 200,000.
But, that’s not what happened. Russia went in with 200,000 but Ukraine mobilized an additional 500,000 soldiers for a total force numbering 700,000 and then began receiving tens of billions of dollars in western equipment and western intel support.
America and its allies went into Iraq, a nation with a much weaker and more obsolete military than that of Ukraine with 570,000 soldiers. Iraq received no weapons from abroad and no intel support. Iraq had already been weakened by its defeat in the Gulf War.
Yet, people were expecting Russia to do the same thing America did to Iraq yet with less than half as many troops and against a much more advanced and capable opponent which is also constantly getting hardware and intel support from the collective west. Additionally, Russia until the Ukrainian truck bombing of the Kerch Bridge was unusually restrained in its use of artillery and air power. It did not target energy infrastructure for most of the war, contrast that to America taking out the energy infrastructure in Serbia and Iraq as priority 1 targets (second only to air defense).
I think given the factors involved, this shows that the Russian military has engaged in a much more challenging operation than anticipated with far fewer men than is required for the task. The reason this was called a Special Military Operation is that the assumption was Russia could go in with a limited force to signal to Ukraine and the west that negotiation was non-optional.
Despite this, as Col. MacGregor points out, Russia is achieving 10:1 favorable kill to death ratios at the moment.
Now with mobilization concluding, Russia appears to be gearing up to making a major offensive push in the Winter and Spring timeframe. I think negotiation is no longer Russia’s goal. It is going to take Eastern Ukraine and maybe take down Western Ukraine too.
I think the entire propaganda house of cards the west has going about Russia’s performance in this war is going to come tumbling down within months.
Russia is winning.
@@QualityPen The next three months is a very short time in the schemes of history...let's see what happens...we are living in historic times and for that I am grateful!
The bunch of far right nutters who worship Putin.
@@QualityPen sooo, for example charkiv retreat was russian army doing great? Tons of equipment left for Ukrainians to take ( photo proven). Let's see what this winter offensive brings and we can discuss if i have fallen for western propaganda...
Very unsettling. What can we do as individuals? The West seem to have no interest in negotiating at this point.
Trrollollol
"Wars responsible persons are not those who trigger them, but those who by their actions make them inevitable"
"Les responsables des guerres ne sont pas ceux qui les déclenchent, mais ceux qui par leurs actions les rendent inévitables"
Montesquieu
I beat the shit out of my girlfriend the other day. Didnt like here attitude.
100% her fault.
Thank you for confirming im in the right, bless you 👍
And the answer to that is always USUK warmongers who've got the most to win with their wars. But this time they've bitten off more than they can chew😂😅😂
@@MMariT "Double support for war-torn is" single best" to help global economy" US Treasury Secretary Yellen
When Yellen says global economy, it's to be understood, American economy, American economy which has only functioned for at least a century through war.
What an interesting and insightful man Mearsheimer is. Head and shoulders above our stupid and misguided politicians .
The job of politicians is to keep people stupid.
US Politician are far from misguided. They're willing operatives for Western Hegemony (Wall Street, Pharma and Defense Contractors).
No you are just a right winger (quasi fascist looking for excuses) - This man is wrong or something more nefarious.
@@minoguirguis7932 You're good at labeling people! Remember, it's Zelensky and his the West that have been financing, arming and training Ukranian Nazis just like they did with Hitler. You like war. Enjoy this shit. The poor Ukranian young men and population that are suffering. Finding fault is easy. It was all avoidable with a treaty, but the West has been trying to destroy Russia since the fall of the Soviets. You and your ilk maybe "dead right".
The misguided are the 🐑 🐑 that continue to give power to narcissists/sociopaths/psychopaths to be their masters then hope for change.. 💯💯😂😂
He’s giving you the real thing, no journalist bs.
@@user80014 Well, that "Putin's intentions are yet to be seen" (because there is no evidence of what mainstream media says those are, and because these kind of conflicts are really unpredictable) is part of what he actually said, didn't he? The "real thing" is indeed a much more complex issue, I agree, but I was referring not to what is actually the case in this geopolitical state of affairs (a pretty messy one), but to the fact that Mersheimer is assessing the situation not in terms of Putin's psychology (as many commentators do) but in terms of international relations of power, which he has been studying since way before this proxy war started. Actually, this is what good journalists used to do.
Actually if you look at 38:00 onwards he creates a narrative about Sweden. I am very skeptical when it comes to the people and not the political class.
Stop saying journalists write bs. Its very dangerous for all of us to put journalists in the fake news corner.
@@kladblok2729 And in many cases they are. Watch Chris hedges. He does a video on journalists who don't even go out the door. But yeah there are credible journalists. But unless you know how to read them you are never aware. I won't mention philosophers but many have exposed this way of thinking.
@@andyrobinson2653 i think the traditional news papers are always credible. If thay make mistakes they correct them. Anyone can call himself a journalist and write bs he found on the internet but thats not what i mean by actual journalist.
Also, the interviewer was really good. I'll listen to more with him. He basically gave the perfect interview. He asked good questions, understood the answers and asked great follow ups
I thought he was a bit lazy always placing John in the role of 'diplomat' and asking what he would do. He counters John's comments in simpleton ways. John is trying to teach him why the issue/conflict isn't so black and white. Also, the interviewer kept doubling down on the use of nuclear weapons. He's definitely a journalist and not an intellectual.
Yeah, I thought some of his questions were a bit off target as far as understanding the implications.
Very balanced interview I thoroughly enjoyed the energy between both gentlemen. I follow prof. Mersheimer for some time but have to say the interviewer should give lectures on how to lead interviews, would reccommned him to slovak press😊well done and thank you
I have seen the interviewers who are dumb af. But this guy listened and understood. Have all the questions ready. Both did great. Amazing
Minute 19 “we are screwed” is the best part of this interview
@@lentruden do you not find it odd that over 5 billion people or so (between ages of 18 to 65) are controlled by so few. So much so in fact, that we allow these war mongering rats to keep fear, stress and control perpetual?
Agreed!
We are indeed screwed.
If we are screwed, so is Putin's Russia too.
Yup.
An absolutely astonishing discussion. Probably the most important I've seen in the last half decade. Thanks.
This man is a fool. If Putin has thought it was going to be so 'messy' he wouldn't have told the public it would be over in 3 days. Plus the vast majority of Ukrainians want a sovereign state and to be part of western European civilisation - not Russian dominance. NATO didn't go anywhere near admitting Ukraine before this and Scandinavia was neutral. This is about Russian imperialism and the Russians themselves who have invaded every land on their doorstep. A people who still support Stalin when he butchered and the majority who still support Putin after the bloodshed, the corruption, the oppression, murder and torture of both the people and political opposition. There is nothing enlightening about this video except highlighting a fool!
Enjoyed your interview. At last somebody who dares to speak out and unbiased. I look forward to listen to your previous and future interviews. Keep up the good work, you're admirable
There was peace between Ukraine and Russia from the end of the USSR up until the USA got between them and attempted to turn Ukraine into an outpost of its own power. Russia is of course still to blame for its own actions, but without the US this war likely wouldn't be happening, and something like the 1990-2014 status-quo would still be in place.
Yes, this war would absolutely NOT happened if US didn’t insert itself. That’s why US did get involved in Ukr project decades ago - they wanted this war. They needed this war. It’s sooooo profitable for certain people in the us. They laundered almost $100 billions so far! Why would they stop it?
@@User-bruser891 Yes, it's a good thing that the US has helped Ukrainians fight for their freedom instead of getting subjugated by Russia. Just like it will help the Taiwanese defend themselves against China.
@@Quester2 thats not at all what she meant. 🤦🏼♀️
The US got involved years ago and helped push Russia into the corner they found themselves.
You seem to have consumed a lot of msm propaganda.
I have a Ukranian name, and a western Ukranian grandfather and Crimean grandmother. My grandmother is culturally Russian, and my grandfather travelled to Donbas for work back in the day and knows they're mostly culturally Russian (with big communities of Greeks, Jews, Tatars etc...). And even western Ukraine voted in Poroshenko then Zelensky post Maidan because they were PEACE candidates... but they both lied or at least were intimidated into war. Zelensky is on video being threatened by Azov guys re: peace, and a peace activist friend of Zelensky was supposedly threatened also... though I haven't had a chance to confirm that one yet.
In the west we get so much impenatrable propaganda that we're as clueless as the average American these days. Parts are just so obvious to me, but only because of my background. It's frightening... friends argue over this stuff I KNOW is true.
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What do the people in Taiwan think on this matter?
The current party in Taiwan just lost the election some 2 days ago. The majority of people in Taiwan just want peace.
Yeah, I couldn't read a paper or watch the news without being bombarded with endless stories about the DPP's election loss... oh wait, I'm thinking about the "China Is Nasty" covid coverage.
A very enlightening interview. Wish that this would be the kind of stuff our schools were able to provide these perspectives. Well done.
It's not that they can't. It's that they won't, because there is a controlled narrative and agenda.
This is one of the most informative, intelligently spoken interview I've ever seen.
What most impressed me about this discussion was how much the Prof was prepared to entertain the notion that his theories of realism are fallible. A less astute scholar (and one who is probably younger) may have cut Freddy's questions short by simply referring to how many of his lectures, since 2008, have predicted today's reality.
The very wisest are uncertain.
Too much certainty and sanctimony around for wisdom these days!
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“A man who is certain he is right is almost sure to be wrong.”
― Michael Faraday
Echoes of a cold war at periodic intervals and of decaying magnitude seem like the careful way to remove this “great” power into irrelevancy.
The West is doing well so far, let’s hope they continue.
His whole arguement on Ukriane is false. He even admits that the US has no interests in Europe and would rather focus on China.
His whole argument says putin had no choice but he makes zero reference to russian attempts to force ukrianians to be russian.
Actually putin was waiting for a chance to invade for a long time and he already did in 2014!
Putin thought he could just waltz into Ukriane because of covid and a weak Biden and he was wrong.
Nothing to do with russia being under threat - if this were the case then why not attack the Baltic states 15 years ago?
It’s because Putin HATES the fact that he can’t control Kyiv of Ukrainians- he’s part of the russian colonial class!
There is no deal to be worked out because the American elites cannot be trusted. They will lie and gaslight till their last breath. They betray their own population and they betray everyone around the world that has something that U.S. corporations want. The war corporations like Boeing Lockheed Raytheon etc want war and so we will get more war till the system breaks down or this system of greed is hopefully turned into glass.
I remember the times when debates like this would be on every channel of the corporate media …..good times …..
These days …good luck
When was that?
The powers would like the little people to focus on football, the Kardasians, the next 30 second commercial message, and leave serious thought and any decisions to academics and their kind of people.
An invaluable interview on how to read what's happen in Ukraine and identify cases in East and South East Asia. Thanks a lot Prof. Mearsheimer and Mr. Sayers. Keep health and enthusiasm.
I'm enamored with this man, and it's disappointing to think that we won't encounter such brilliance again anytime soon.
Our family has hosted 17 foreign exchange students over a 40-year period in Moscow, Idaho. Most folks do not want to go to war. Focus the effort on the high schoolers and early college students. The duration could be 3 to 9 months from family to family. I was a foreign exchange student in the 1960s to Germany through Boston College. I stayed with a German family with four other foreign exchange students. This is vastly cheaper than spending on "defense."
Yes, most folks do not want to go to war. But we have a ruling class that thrives on it.
Say thanks to America starting this proxy war with Russians in 2014.
@@ronmackinnon9374 The whole US economy is built on that. Logically do Carriers add to the GDP of the country. Literally they do as military spending is part of the GDP.
@@ronmackinnon9374 I totally agree with you and it's heartbreaking because I don't have anything against anybody and definitely not the Russian people and the warhawks in Washington DC and others in the EU and NATO are just playing this and feeding everybody a bunch of propaganda .. the West was not supposed to add any more northeastern European countries to nato back in the 1990s when the USSR fell apart and yet they did which is why Georgia got invaded and then Crimea and when our stupid President Biden and prime minister Boris Johnson and NATO was on board attempting to get Ukraine into the NATO, Russia had enough because this is right on their back door so they invaded Ukraine. It's just really really sad and when Trump was President he didn't want you praying in Native for various reasons and one is that they are corrupt because their government is corrupt in the big businesses are corrupt but the people in Ukraine are totally innocent in this.. also president Trump was abiding by the agreement made in the early 1990s whereas no other Eastern l European country would be added to.NATO.. THIS SMARTEST PRESIDENT WE'VE EVER HAD AND YET THE RULING CLASS POLITICAL ELITE HATED HIM AND DID EVERYTHING TO TRY AND DESTROY THE MAN INCLUDING LYING ABOUT HIM ETC ETC.... Been here comes Elon Musk yesterday with the Twitter files exposing Joe Biden for exactly who he is and who he has been and how dirty his campaign was and his administration.. totally fascist how they've been working with the media and social media Google Apple etc etc to censor people and be platform them and then again cover up all the dirty Biden family business overseas.. it's disgusting and I feel bad for Hunter because he's right in the middle of this and he was working just trying to make enough money to pay his alimony and take care of himself oh and pay his dad 50% of everything he earns.. that's just disgusting and it's Joe's doing because he's the big guy in charge and it's all just makes me sick because Ukraine is being torn apart
@@monterey.harris9126 Not so. Montenegro and North Macedonia were added to NATO under Trump. And he supplied arms to Ukraine to use in the Donbass, doing what the bosses in Washington wanted. Get over your f___ing hero worship already!
And what did you mean by 'praying in Native'?
There is a bully in the world and it’s not Russia.
Yes, indubitably...
Mind boggling that you don't see Russia as a bully. Of course, there can be more than 1 bully. Many more, in fact.
@@iAmEhead it is only one and you know who's that
@@svend.3448 what kind of a gay is USA then
@@iAmEhead , Yes it does boggle a great many minds, indeed; minor, uninformed ones, exclusively... It ain't no rocket science...
Pity politics ignore him, the world needs more savy men like this to stop the war.
I just discovered this channel and I am enjoying very much. The host is a delight to hear, very calm and respectful!
John is forgetting the fact that the US is constantly loosing wars in Asia. Vietnam, Afghanistan. To confront China overseas in Asia is certainly no easier task. China is not aggressive or dominant militarily, but economically. What John is saying is that Chinas economic strength should be met with military force. An imperialistic view to say the least. I have a great respect for John (his views on Eastern Europe for example) but that statement came as very chilling surprise.
Well said!
Brian Berletic of The New Atlas has done a ton of research into the harm caused by Western “democracy promotion” in east Asia. youtube.com/@TheNewAtlas
The clandestine and militant opposition to China and the region’s economic rise is egregious and disgusting. If, as the good Dr. King said, there is a moral arc to the universe bending toward justice the west must cede its global dominion. We may be able to do it peacefully now or we will destroy ourselves fighting the inevitable balance which justice will impose.
John Mearsheimer said a lot of wise words about Ukraine, but nothing about what the people in South and East Ukrain want, as if that does not matter.
Same thing about Taiwan. Nothing about the majority of people there who don't want Americans there, who don't want independence from China, and think a common government in 2049 is a reasonable time frame. For now they want to keep the status quo and have a very profitable economical relationship between the two parts of the one China. Check it. Ignorance is a choice.
My thoughts exactly.
The prof. needs de natzifying
Great dialogue, Freddie. Why didn’t you mention that the US benefits in the proxy war by gaining access to LNG markets and arms sales?
Maybe because the "US" doesn't benefit from arms "sales" that Ukraine doesn't pay for?
And US LNG isn't price-competitive, so investing in more transport infrastructure to Europe would be stupid.
@@gandydancer9710 Except those weapons are paid for by the US tax payer. Raytheon makes sure of that. Now that Nord Stream 1&2 are out of the picture(at least temporarily) US LNG is competitive.
Also Access under the guise of Maidan to degrade Russia and destroy the economic Rise of BRICS et al 🇷🇺🇨🇳 at all Costs to ensure American Imperialistic World Dominance of the 💲 !
@@gandydancer9710 The U.S. has benefitted exceptionally well from arms "sales" or "lend/lease" type arrangements for the whole 20th century, especially the 1st half which helped fuel it's rise to uber-empire. Biden even conjured the demons and angels of WWII by calling it just that. Since he's so hip to the fanciful notion and smelling his own farts that he's FDR II incarnate. It's nothing new, the Rockefeller's famously made their fortune by funding both sides of a few wars in the 1800's. Ukraine is no exception... they will be on the hook for the next one hundred years writing checks to Uncle Sam and it's creditors. Win or lose they will expect to be paid. They would like to see Russia pay reparations as well... but that's not very likely. Washington always has a perpetual dollar sign in it's thought bubble. It wants to bring back the swell, happy times when the world devoured itself with well over 100 million casualties(WWI, WWII, Cold War) and it sat on top of this carnage like a brooding vulture. US LNG will see an increase in sales for the next couple of years... guaranteed, the world energy crunch makes it price-competitive.
@@paulwhetstone0473 You don't understand what "competitive" means. E.g., if the price of energy is too high then German chemical firms can't sell their products in competition with firms that have access to cheaper energy sources. Hence the worry about their moving production to, e.g., the US. American LNG to the EU can't fix this. And the increased sales of American LNG will be trivial in any case because the capacity isn't there and, as I said, it would make no sense to build it and then get stuck with the cost of doing so in reaction to a temporary spike in spot prices.
And if you meant "Rayethon benefits" rather than "the US benefits" then you shiould have said that.
It’s great to be educated, Freddie!
Amazing interview!! I am glad you’ve listened today something very, very important and hope you have heard it… but, of course it’s your choice ..
Thank you Sir! I'm so impressed the way you explained whole situation!!!! I hope this video will see as many people!!!
Great talk. Everything he is saying is just common sense. Just imagine if Russia had an allied government in Mexico and was sending them increasingly advanced weaponry and were talking about regime change in America. There would be war faster than you can blink.
That is absurd. America is never going to invade Mexico or parts of it. Why would Mexico request advanced weaponry from some other country? Why? Because they feel safe...you know..like Russia's neighbors never did.
Great point!! Putin is handling himself very well considering.
actually John is factually incorrect in 90% of his statements. "logic" depends on where you start and John starts his logic at entirely the wrong points. Worst point is that he hasn't corrected his arguments but that's because he's an academic and he even said himself in other talks that the Kremlin always welcomes him warmly in Moscow. Dont trust the guy
Imagine USA murdered elected Mexican president (or at least tried to poison him), appointed a new puppet pro-american government and then stole all mexican natural resources.
Or imagine USA committed genocide on mexican nation, murdering 20% of all people. Then replaced them with loyal americans and and then started complaining that English speaking minority is oppressed in Mexico.
Also what if Russia built military base in central America, like in Nicaragua? What USA would do? Nothing. Russia already has base there.
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We trust him more than you
This interview should be shown on every channel and every main stream media program.
This one of the best interviews that I have heated about Ukrainian situation so far, that gentleman is 100% right
Many thanks for this @UnHerd team.
“We will know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.” - William Casey, the former director of the CIA.
"When you're weak, all the great powers take advantage of you."
An eye for an eye - and the whole world will be blind.
This is the price for not carefully keeping the peace. For double dealing, for failing to be straight, for forgetting history. For sneering at that great doctrine of ‘love your enemies’. Or to quote that old 60s /70s cry ‘when will they ever learn’. If ever peacekeeping was needed it,s NOW. The Brits were hunting a unicorn all through Brexit. That missing unicorn option is ever more stark. Stop the War. Shout to shut down the war….. no other option. Thank you Freddy for this important debate with Mearsheimer.
About Taiwan, JM never says clearly that "defending Taiwan" really means "defending Taiwan's right to be independent". The whole point of the One China policy, which the US accepts, is that Taiwan can never be independent. The reason China feels strongly about Taiwan independence should be obvious: Japan used Taiwan as an "unsinkable aircraft carrier" when it invaded China in the early XX century. An independent Taiwan is an existential threat to China, just as Ukraine in NATO is an existential threat to Russia.
19:45 “there are no realistic options… we’re screwed!”😂 gotta love a realist tellin it like it is
😂😂😂 same here. I thought he was about to give a very enlightening option.
Why don't you show that moron this video, he might comprehend a bit at least.
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Why don't you show that moron this video, he might comprehend a bit at least.
ruclips.net/video/A79uneUEfjM/видео.html
And STILL we are being ignored.
What does that tell you?
@Chorus 17 it’s called strategic shelling to lower morale, nothing new here. Look at the Syrian army shelling it’s own people.
I mean, WOW! Freddie, you've done it now what I wanted since the war broke out between Ukraine and Russia. Professor did a great job like ever, he is the brightest mind in the U.S. today. Congrats Freddie
Amazing that his "reality" is so very "American". The propaganda is strong in this one...
If Ukraine wants to be in NATO ( understandable for each Russian neighbor), who has the right to decide ( instead of Ukraine alone) that this is not going to happen? Is it Putin’s right and competency to say NO ? Or someone else? Who?
@@tobagobum It's not propaganda as he said all this seven years ago.
@@MiladaKaiser there IS AN ANSWER (several times repeated) to your question is the interview :D … just listen once more “with an EMPTY cup of tea”
@@tobagobum «Amazing that his "reality" is so very "American". The propaganda is strong in this one...»
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You are right! And it is a subtle propaganda. Till now (watched just 10 minutes) I found two points. One is the perception of the weakness of the Russian Army, completely ignoring the nature of the intervention and the eventual games behind (he cannot be that naive). The other one is where, talking about "force out of nationalism", they both ignore that Ukraine itself was, and still today is, divided. The Ukrainians used to vote for opposing visions till 2014. But after 2014 coup the other side (and so the political will/vote) was outlawed.
John is a great thinker and excellent skillful interviewing by Freddie who asked the right questions to take us through John's ideas and viewpoints.
This man is a legend ❤️
Thank you Freddie for bringing Mearsheimer, who was often seen in early discussions on Ukraine but had gone silent in recent months. He is definitely a levelheaded and reliable source in these days when all Western mainstream media have become nothing but propaganda outfits.
Clearly western elite's propaganda minions are using the same propaganda technique Hitler used - th big lie approach - one big lie over and over again with variations "Russia Bad, Ukraine Good" etc..
There is a difference betwenn him going silent and him being muzzled.
Maybe they are just saving him for later when they need somebody with established cred to sell the free world on a war with china over Taiwan, though?? 🙀🙀☠️👻🤞
Great interview. Freddie is way off on his 'Russian losses' narrative. Please interview Col. Douglas Macgregor.
Freddie is controlled opposition
@Gabriel Kvarnberg pretends to be playing devils advocate and listening to the other side by giving them a platform on his short; but really he’s trying to prove exactly how much he thinks some of his guests are crazy - by asking them stupid questions. One example is his questions around Orban. Mearsheimer answers perfectly and doesn’t fall into trap, but Freddie who is supposed to be a journalist, is asking a journalist why he’s interviewing the very subject of what he (JM) was proposing to analyze and write about
Yes! Col McGregor!
Great channel to sub is The New Atlas
Or Scott Ritter. Or Brian Berletic. Or the guys from The Duran.
It's nice to know that people like this exist.
Wow, this is great! I respect you, Prof.
It did NOT start in February. Crimea.
It started on Feb. 22, 2014, when US-backed-and-trained Right Sector-Svoboda nationalists killed more than 100 Ukrainians on the Maidan Square in order to make Yanukovich look like a crazed dictator.
@@ericjsmoczynski4374 You really didn't need to much to make him look like one. It whole country was against the puppet government, not just some small extremist group.
.. and the fact that the West didn't intervene robustly back then - despite much sabre-rattling and empty threats.
@@daniel.lopresti Exactly, the fault was ours; but, better late than never.
Weird, RUclips says "4 replies" but shows me only one, yours, and not the one you replied to.
And both interlocutors were clearly talking about the Feb invasion, not some undefined "it".
You could equally well say "it" started with Kruschev attaching Crimea to the Ukrainian SSR, or Stalin attaching Eastern Poland to it. Or when the Mongols ended the dominance of the Kievan Rus over Muscovy..
Meirsheimer said Feb 24, Sayers said Feb 22nd, Meirsheimer then repeatedly insisted on Feb 24 without, however, ever saying "You're wrong". Which Sayers was.
Why must the US be the dominant power in Asia as well as in Europe? Why must the US wage unending wars?
Using the Realist explanation, why must the US be the dominant power? Per Dr Mearsheimer, "because it can". Paraphrased, but essentially what he says about world power dynamics, read his book, 'Tragedy of Great Power Politics'
Geopolitical hubris and business profits?
Manifest destiny marches on
Mearsheimer is one of the few guys out there with sense. Nobody in the modern west wants to acknowledge the truth of this situation because we're all deluded by childish, idealistic thinking. We're enamored with what we think _ought_ to be true and what we _wish_ to be true rather than what is actually true. Mearsheimer stands in remarkable contrast to this - he is only concerned with the way the world _actually_ works when it comes to great powers and how they behave. The west would do well to pay attention to what he's saying, unless you are keen on seeing a blinding light in your window one fateful day.
Facts, completely ignored by media.
Riiiight.🤦
Far much better than BBC and France 24 interviews that I have watched so far. Very educative and thank you
Make no mistake, Western mainstream media are specifically ignoring messages like his and signal boosting pro-NATO voices. They are a propaganda extension of the western military hegemony, unfortunately.
Mearsheimer can not see beyond his own glorification of the US. Reality is, as we all know and agree by now, that Russia invaded Ukraine under the false pretext of Ukrainian Nazification, Ukrainian entry to NATO, self determination of Russian speakers within Ukraine and the expansion of NATO towards the West. Totally unprovoked, ruthless, brutal and unyielding to decision making between its self and other powers. USA is already bitching about a Chinese invasion of Taiwan, when China literally gains little to nothing.
Professor John Mearsheimer you are a genius, thank you much xxx
Taiwan is formerly Formosa a proviñce of China where Chankaisek an American ally during the war fled because of defeat from the communist so China is right to annex Taiwan.
that's because BBC CNN France24...etc are sided with 1 side of the story and focused on agenda and brain washing people with categorized keywords related to opposite team
It's a relief to listen to objective, rational and reasonable people discuss these issues for a change. Thank you.
yeah, the guy is just skips stuff that doesn't fit his narrative by using words like: appears, all of the sudden, it's happened.
NATO does not APPEARED to suppress Russia, USSR had clearly planned and attempted to concur Europe, therefore NATO happened...
Ain't rational. It is naive and suspicious.
@@hatrick3117 Learn English smarty pants... or just read history. NATO preceded the Warsaw Pact by 6 years. It was only when East Germany joined NATO (meaning that Germany would re-arm) that the Soviets formed their own alliance. The Soviets were in absolutely no position to 'concur' Europe after WW2 - half their country lay in ruins. It took the Soviets 20 years to reconstitute their farmland and industry in the western half of the country.
@@hatrick3117 Learn English smarty pants... or just read history. NATO preceded the Warsaw Pact by 6 years. It was only when East Germany joined NATO (meaning that Germany would re-arm) that the Soviets formed their own alliance. The Soviets were in absolutely no position to 'concur' Europe after WW2 - half their country lay in ruins. It took the Soviets 20 years to reconstitute their farmland and industry in the western half of the country.
Yeah wouldn't it be great that Mearsheimer would have been honest and objective?
This fellow reminds me of the idiocy of Chamberlain in England just prior to WW2
The US was strangling Japan because it had attacked neighboring countries in a bid for empire. Sounds familiar. If Japan had stayed within its borders, it would have been fine. As far as Russia, Mearsheimer ignores all sorts of prior evidence to Putin's attitude towards Ukraine. Ask the Finns about living next to Russia.
Well said.
@@KanakarisGeorge Thanks
Also, the US were not strangling Japan's economy, they were strangling Japan's ability to wage further wars of aggression. They were not in danger of losing their colonies or their economic prosperity. They could have just stopped expanding and enjoyed the spoils of war but they were greedy and wanted more.
Ask mexico or cuba about living next to usa. Mexican president is quite straight forward about it.
As a slav in slavic country that's in nato, if this escalates into ww and usa joins the fight, don't have any illusion that we'll be fighting side by side shooting at russians. A lot of us will be shooting at americans before we fire a single bullet toward our russian brothers.
My favorite professor ❤ the only person who speaks coherently in America. I share his thoughts with understanding. My opinion To have Zelenskyi on the first page of major magazines as a hero is nothing less than emotional manipulation of the masses.
Oh well. A great many folks have graced the cover of “TIME, not to mention “Rolling Stone and I have no doubt that similar motives were in play for each of them. You know, Hitler, Stalin, Elvis Presley, Winston Churchill. Manipulation of Masses is why we have magazines.
Yes, I agree.
It makes me sick.
If your country was invaded and massacred by Russians, how would you feel? Don't you have any human feelings??? Ukrainians are real people like you, they want to be free like you
The fact that not even once, no matter the ocasion, he has droped the military like attires irks me, he is a politic not a soldier.
@@ThatGuyUpThere He is a leader of a country struggling to survive. Does the Russian illegal aggression ırk you perhaps?
Why are people blaming the victim? İt is hard to understand . What is wrong with you?
Dr. Meersheimer, my only (very minor) critique is that no enough emphasis was placed on Russia's limited goals at the outset 2/24/22. They appear to have miscalculated the response of the US and its NATO/OTAN puppet. Respect and value your voice.
Maybe Russians did miscalculate, but I think that Russian leadership was not in position to dedicate more resources at the beginning. Why? Because, although propaganda in Russia was talking about Western evil designs on Russia for years, majority in Russia didn't believe in it. There could not have been military mobilisation in February. But then " geniuses" from Washington and Brussels publicly confirmed what Putin was saying. It would be smart of them to keep the mouth shut. Now, Russian government has all the backing it needs. What's more, Putin is always behind the curve when escalation is in question. Population and his entourage would have destroyed Ukrainian infrastructure long time age. Bridges across the country are intact, even after 9 months of war. Also, they would have mobilised back in June if it were not for Putin.
@@tonihil Appreciate your comments and see your points ... given with clarity. Thank you.
NATO IS Americas
Industrial Military Complex. 🇷🇺💲🇨🇳
They clearly said they wanted to demylitirize and denazify Ukraine... I believe they saw them as a brother state. As if, California or Texas broke away from the USA, and allowed military bases of the BRICS. I am pretty sure, in a case like that, the USA wouldn't attack them, like they attacked Iraq or Lybia....
After the Nordstream and Crimea bridge attacks... things changed....
@@josebazocosta9341 absolutely true regarding the corner turned at the Nordstream and Crimea incidents.
Very much appreciate the dialogue that this interviewer keeps the subject at hand, being concise and engaging and articulate.
I love when he randomly talks about himself in the third person. Idk why but it pleases me
Honestly speaking Russia and China will always compite with the West and the best policy is mutual respect and cooperation. Pro John Mearsheimer account for the war in Ukraine and NATO should be seriously taken into account. Quite frankly, I have never listen to someone for so long and pleasantly like Pro John Mearsheimer, simply the most monumental academic. God bless you sir 🙏
John Mearsheimer confronts us with the potential consequences of our foreign affairs strategic choices. His willingness to articulate realistically and a sometimes contrarian point of view is invaluable.
@@OneSeasonMan lol ,you find realism hard to grasp .
Bit shocked, about his stance that the US should go to war with China and prevent a multi polar world. Also: if the US should defend Taiwan for military strategic reasons, shouldn’t the EU do so with Ukraine with similar reasons?
Probably one of the best actual interviews I've seen in years. Great job Gentleman, This is how a conversation is supposed to be, Thank You!!
Japan civilian 😭
This professor prove to be a complete idiot in the last question about Ukrain
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So, basically the final thoughts are that Unipolar world is "better", as long as the US is the only Master. Thank you for the sincerity, Professor. However, I would argue that the conflicts now are not as a result of a Multipolar world, which hasn't become a full reality, yet (hopefully soon,) but because the US cannot accept other competitors - which actually would be far better for the world compared to what we have now - and therefore causing havoc, right and left in the world. They have appointed themselves the global chief police and now they get angry when other great countries dare to challenge their domination.
It is ironic, and also tragic, when you think that the founding fathers of the US were great lovers of the history of the Roman Empire, and they studied it very well, while their descendant have forgotten that history, especially the fall. Sooner or latter the US empire will fall. It is up to them to decide how much damage they will cause to the world, as well as to themselves ,in that process.
So very true.
Prof. Mearsheimer is a rare sane voice in the west. He's not saying US should not try to dominate the world, everyone is trying so why shouldn't they?? But then the western involvment in Ukraine is just stupid, arrogant and idiotic no matter which angle you look at it from. He gives such solid, sober and clear reasoning for it, that it makes it impossible for anyone not to accept it. I am personally shocked at how stupid and shallow the european leaders are. Perhaps the best explanation is that they come from failed empires and falsely believe they still rule the world and have the god given right put their noses anywhere the wish... pretty sad situation.
So the fact that a sovereign nation of Europe was invaded by a dictatorship has completely escaped you?
F**ing idiot.
Freddy should have asked him, why he feels China should not be a peer competitor? Why must the US be the sole hegemon?
A Rare Treat to listen to such a Clear Thinker.
Thanks for this interview.
It's an old imperialist thinker, seeing the world in terms of powers and spheres of influence, where proper nations such as USA and Russia are entitled to decide the fate of those unpropper nations such as Ukraine. Who cares about international law and what those little
Ukrainians want; right?!
@@tetianavarvynska2125 What is 'International Law'. Whatever the US decides it is at any particular moment in time. As for 'Those little Ukrainians'; maybe it's time for them to stand up for themselves rather than being willing cannon fodder. Get rid of the NAZI's, get a government that will sit down with the Russians and hear them out. And stop killing the 'Ukrainians' on the Eastern side of the Ukraine just because they want to continue speaking Russian like they have for generations.
@@groundedinreal you should really take advantage of the resources available on RUclips to educate yourself rather than to keep spouting russian propaganda. I recommend paying particular attention to the "Ukrainians speaking russian for generations on the eastern side". Try Anne Applebaum or Timothy Snyder, at least. If you are brave, maybe go for Stephen Kotkin afterwards. You have a lot to catch up, good luck.
I think you've done a great job of pushing back without sounding confrontational.
Very informative!! Loved the interview!!
The gentleman who was in the interview should be the head of NATO !!!
Love listening to Mearsheimer and agree with him on Ukraine/Russia. Thanks for this interview
i doubt this man knows anything. 200k allied pro Russian forces entered Ukraine + partial mobilization 300k men. Ukraine met them with 700k active personel +5 waves of total mobilization around 3 million men. Picture is clear how Russia is performing there.
@@Danilla229 … can you not see the wood for the trees?
Ukraine is being used by 🇺🇸!
Zelenskyy constantly begging
🇺🇸🇪🇺🇬🇧 etc and making bad decision… pawns in a game you seem not to understand!
It is high time that NATO moves nukes into Ukraine and NATO should find a way to destroy Russia's Nukes in their silos! Destroy Moscow, as well. Where's 007 when you really need him??? Meersheimer is so Full Of Sh*T! I think that he is a Russian spy!
@@snc8537 Mearsheimer's argument is always "Putin said that", "Putin said this", "Russians viewed it as an existential threat", etc., although he knows that Putin always lies. Mearsheimer also extensively uses Kremlin terminology, thus revealing himself.
Ukraine has its own international agency. They can decide -- and they are doing so -- for themselves. Professor Mearsheimer, do you want to calm Putin down? Then cede some territories of your country to Putin, not Ukrainian oblasts, in exchange for peace in Europe. How about you return Alaska back to Russia? That will help.
I've been watching Professors J. Mearsheimer, and J. Sacks since 2014, they are old conscious Putin prostitutes.
Read Mearsheimer's recent interview with the New Yorker - he had gone entirely wrong. Mearsheimer quite often does not refrain from direct lies either, for a small example is 2:40, when the professor says, "the crisis started on 22 Feb 2014". But he knows perfectly that the Rus special operation forces (CCO) entered Crimea and started taking over Ukr gov offices and officials early morning of 20 Feb 2014. That was about 30-35 hours before President Yanukovych signed the agreement with the parliamentarian opposition (in the presence of the EU and Rus gov representatives) that Yanukovych would stay in full power till the next elections.
@@Danilla229 No. Mearsheimer knows things very well, but he is a Putin prostitute. Read Mearsheimer's recent interview with the New Yorker - he had gone entirely wrong. Mearsheimer quite often does not refrain from direct lies either. For a small example is 2:40, when the professor says, "the crisis started on 22 Feb 2014". But he knows perfectly that the Rus special operation forces (CCO) entered Crimea and started taking over Ukr gov offices and officials early morning of 20 Feb 2014. That was about 30-35 hours before President Yanukovych signed the agreement with the parliamentarian opposition (in the presence of the EU and Rus gov representatives) that Yanukovych would stay in full power till the next elections.
Just to add: according to Wikipedia US sent 700,000 troops in the first Gulf War and that was not to conquer Gulf War but to effect a rethinking of the Kuwait situation. 190,000 even with force multipliers of modern tech does not occupy a country the size of Ukraine. I think this point is quite poignant.
"rethinking of the Kuwait situation", what? You mean to kick out Iraq of Kuwait? Also, Russia in all due likelihood severely overestimated the support russian forces would receive from the Ukrainian people, thereby not preparing themselves nearly enough for the war. It totally makes sense if they believed the Ukrainian people would support the russian invasion and thereby align themselves with Russian interests. How is your point poignant? Is it possible that Russian intelligence just hardcore failed in their estimates?
@@Killer1260 And you think that the eastern Ukrainians were against the invasion? As far as the resistance was seen, it comes mainly from western Ukraine, a region that Russia does not have much interest in.
And of course Russia miscalculated, they thought to take kiev in a matter of days, and they were wrong. Then I also think that they were wrong in following the invasion in such a "peaceful" way, the bombing of energy terminals and means of transport as well as command centers should have been done from the beginning, and not waiting for a car bomb to explode on the bridge of crimea
@@anibalquiroz5498 yeah I think eastern Ukraine was and is against the invasion. Certainly if you are referring to the 2022 invasion, what is your evidence of the contrary? Being somewhat sympathetic towards Russia is not the same as wanting an invasion. Not that most of eastern Ukraine supported Russia anyway. Or am o missing your point? Also, eastern Ukrainians are disproportionately fighting compared to the West, so i don't think your opinion is correct
Sure so we agree that Russia miscalculated, at least in the beginning. I don't remember Russia's actions that way, did they not start severely bombing the, mostly civilian infrastructure, after the crimea bridge bombing? Russia was already targeting command centers and military targets with missiles before? Mariupol is also a missing point in your narrative imo. That was an early taste of mass bombing of a city. I also severely doubt the military effect og trying to freeze the Ukrainian population. Destroying communications and infrastructure is essential in the beginning, but loses a lot of effect later. Not all of the effect. I could also be wrong on this
The original poster's reference is a good one. Add to that Russia knew Ukraine had been NATO trained for years, but still came with only 190.000. plus, Russia's stated goals have been in place and out there since the invasion. The suggestion that they came to take the whole country is propaganda (mearshheimer calls is western imagination) . I think Russia 's miscalculation was that 1) they thought Ukraine would sit on the table if they surrounded Kiev. They later realized this was far from a realistic view. 2) They probably thought west would more easily give up, and underestimated the corrupt dedication of the European leaders in US hegemony vs the interests of the European people.
Their backup plan is running and they are still on the winning side in the war of atrition.
The professor stated the Monroe doctrine but yet surrounds China with even more bases that Nato has around Russia and expects China to do nothing about it. A realist would not agree to that... And starting a war in Asia is somehow OK.
Brilliant and illuminating perspective. Thank you!
I'm Swedish and we the people have or hadn’t any say in the matter of joining NATO.
I and a lot more do NOT want SWEDEN to join NATO
I see NATO as US toolbox using other countries military capacities sponsored by the taxpayers and the people have to follow orders fight any war intervention NATO (US) see fit their will or plan/agenda.
NO to NATO.
Europe should exclude themselves from NATO and just take care of each and every ones own countries sovereignty. Same with EU.
Yes to SWEXIT
I agree, Anna .
This man needs to be protected for the sake of truth. He is a Gem!
What truth? He is an intellectual and has zero access to government intel concerning Putin’s intentions. He said “he” has no evidence that Russia is a threat but how could he stand by this claim when it’s the government who would have the intel? Mearsheimer claims we need to focus on China… Well, Russia and China are allies especially since the creation of BRICS in 2009. It’s just a matter of time before they support one another militarily. Mearsheimer’s point of focusing on China means focusing on Russia as they are one in the same and have unilaterally demanded an end to western hegemony.
@@nuttybrownie do you watch the whole video? If only this is what you pinpoint you missed the the point.
Hopelessly naïve about Russian intentions, massacres at Bucha, mass graves , phosphorous weapons, people shoot with their hands tied behind their backs, evidence being collected by war crimes tribunals, mass mobilisation.
Obviously its a holiday excursion by Russia
See what what the Poles, Baltic Republics think of it
Protected from whom?
@@voiceoftruth2017 what did he write?
Well done gentlemen. Washington D.C. needs to listen up. It behooves me they don't engage in this type of common sense dialogue that takes 7.5 billion people into account. Despite the fact that our lives are at stake, they do not mind playing Russian roulette with them. It's all a game to them.
This man has a great insight and lots of common sense
Pity the Kremlin has zero common sense than .
It makes me feel so depressed about this whole situation. When pipelines blow up I was thinking maybe now Erope is going to wake up and put an end to this, but it looks like our politicians live in parallel universe and completely detached from reality.
EU is occupied by US, even UK is full of US troops. The new Rome is holding a tight grip on its provinces.
It’s not actually a parallel universe, it’s a Mars colony!! 👹☠️👿🤖👻
@@kay2kin92 RAF Croughton is the main base. Air forces are stationed in the UK, not infantry.
So under Joe bidens watch we are marching steadily towards WW3 and people are still trying to impeach trump.
@@TS-vn2fc occupied? Lol
Col. Douglas Macgregor and Scott Ritter are military analysts. Their analyses is different.
Plus RUclips channel The New Atlas
Also
The Duran
The New Atlas
Defence Politics Asia
Col Macgregor Retired has also spoken about America’s wider Foreign Policy towards the rest of the world.
Just subbed to the channel but I have to say, This was a really great interview. Ty
He didn't see Sweden or Finland join Nato because it's not about real politic or idealism. Although at some point real politic was the concept that explained world events its not now.
Appreciate your interviewing process. It’s not easy to play devil’s advocate and to let the person speak their points all while keeping a very serious topic emotionally at bay with your calmness.
Makes it easier to listen and digest. It’s how it used to be.
Props!
It's not easy for those who believe myths to have false illusions destroyed by reality. Plato wrote a book about this.
yep. This guy ... most unusually ... is a very good interviewer ... unlike 95% of "journalists", he's not trying to force his opinions on the interviewee.....
The gentleman running the interview was fantastic, his questions were really good and he let John speak get his point across without trying to influence his answers, Imagine if cable television news programs was like this I would actually watch the news
Yes,excellent interview
@@davidfitzpatrick4041 It's not just forcing your opinions, many of them try to provoke the interviewee in a passive-aggressive way.
I have to say that this is exactly how I see the situation well done
Probably only the sane guy left on the planet , great interview .loved his pacifying perspective
It’s telling that this kind of discussion is not taking place in mainstream media, which is increasingly resembling Pravda from the Soviet era on this.
I have studied and considered the current state of great power politics, and like Dr Mearsheimer, I think we live in a time of the greatest danger since the intewar decade of the 1930s, when the seeds for WWII began to sprout, until fully blooming in 1939. Further to my studies, my instincts are telling me that the first half of the 21st century will be defined by renewed great power conflict, echoing the previous 2 centuries in a way, whilst of course having quite different contours. What those conflicts will look like exactly, how terrible a toll they will exact of mankind is not entirely clear, because as Mearsheimer points out, it is infinitely difficult to predict exactly how international relations will play out, but if one thing is clear, if any of them involve even a single nuclear detonation of any kind, WWIII will be that much harder to avoid and all the technological, political and social progress made the world over would likely regress in the face of total nuclear catastrophe that would more than likely follow.
In other words, were such a scenario to occur, those left standing after any great power conflict, especially one involving nuclear weapons, would have to live through the likely collapse of advanced civilisations, and some pretty drastically fast collapses at that I'd imagine given our current over-reliance on both technology and interconnected economic systems, and the world we live in today would be quite unrecognisable to future human generations however they may have managed to scrape back a living from the rubble in the next century or two. Much like the early medieval kingdoms of Europe looking back on the height of Roman civilisation in all its vast imperial, interconnecting span, and wondering how something so powerful and seemingly inexorable in its forward advance could come to an end, 22nd and 23rd century humans will have a similiar sense of equal parts wonder, befuddlement and dismay that a civilisation at the heights of its powers could ever fall into such ruin. Here's hoping they might finally have learned enough to avoid another catastrophe, but I think it will take many more catastrophes yet for humans to get the message sadly.
Or, I could be entirely wrong of course and major power war will be avoided and progress of one kind or another will continue for the next century at least, but whether it's this century or the next, or the one after (however many it takes) I do think the renewal of great power conflict is inevitable and nuclear disaster is highly likely so long as a) great powers exist in mutual competition with one another and b) nuclear weapons exist to be used. Whether it's our lifetime, or future generations of humans in near future centuries, disaster is going to fall as it always does on hubristic civilisations, and it will not be pretty.
Hi. Your observations related with that of Pro John Mearsheimer and the analysis you made is a true reality of our civilization. No one will survive a nuclear holocaust, no matter what amount of money or weath you may have. The only way we survived is though mutual respect and cooperation. God have mercy 🙏
John: Well certainly agree with the first couple of lines. Like you I suspect, I have some doubts about comes later, it’ll be anything but pretty. I happened to be parsing the crowded bookshelves in the cellar a while back when up Hanna Arendt and a couple of others. The rise of totalitarianism at both levels…….street level was filled in with the likes of “The Order of the Deaths Head.” Still scrounging. Must renew my library card.
Your instincts may be better than mine, but the events of recent months certainly portend the very near future at least. In the ‘Great Power World ‘ I recently realized that I was omitting South and Central Asia’s potential to join my list of participants in any near horizon great power competitions. Should Russia lose its grip on Central Asia the revival of the ‘Stans led by Kazakhstan……….all up for grabs, the success, or not, of the Belt and Road initiative. That’s a considerable mess of potential scenarios requiring the application of ‘instinctual’ prognostications.
If Finland and Sweden want to join NATO dont they have the right to do so?
very well said exactly what ive been thinking , as another you tuber has said Putin is using the nazi playbook to the letter but now with the threat of nukes thrown into the mix
@@miken2604 Yes, and so did the Baltic 3 and all of the other nations who have joined since 1991. Putin’s paranoid mind is haunted(with some justification to be candid) by the regime change actions he’s witnessed. One in particular, Gadaphi’s battered corpse being dragged through the streets of Tripoli apparently traumatized him greatly, hence his intervention in Syria. I’m NEXT; their coming for ME!
His vision of NATO “expansion” simply couldn’t grasp the idea that the rush to “NATOIZE” was driven, not by coercion, but by his vocal desire to resurrect the USSR” or that his ambitions to do so were mainly responsible for sending post Soviet nations scurrying to Brussels.