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FWD Drift (Front wheel drive, FF drift) It's Possible?
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- Опубликовано: 12 дек 2022
- FWD (front-wheel drive) drifting, front-engine and front-wheel-drive layout (FF) cars drifting, how to drift a fwd car, kei car drift, Honda Civic drift, can you drift a front wheel drive car? Drifting is easier with rear-wheel-drive cars because the power is sent to the rear wheels. However, for a front-wheel drive car, it’s a little harder, but possible. FF ドリフト #FWDdrift #Drift #Drifting
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I used to drift all the time in a fwd, my friends used to make fun of me and say it was impossible until I started drifting around light poles in parking lots. It’s still drifting, just a different technique. I understand that some people are against that tho and it’s somewhat understandable but I learned how to drift in a fwd car
Interesting, have any tips?
@@abellsatime378 it’s all about your setup and timing, grippy tires in the front and slicks in the back. The only way to get better is to practice tho, try going to a big, empty parking lot.
@@abellsatime378 Stiff rear end, shit tires in the rear, e-brake cables tightened and give it just a little bit of gas with your toes and you're ready to go :D
I say it’s its own thing. You can push yourself to slide, but you downshift and momentum around.
It really deserves to be its own sport cuz it can’t compete in rwd drift, and rwd drift can’t compare technique with how hard it is.
I would say "pulling" instead of drifting, but is ok.
Seeing civics tandem is wild ngl
For real tho 😂
something i never expected to see
1st time I ever seen a FWD actually drift and not powerslide... I'm impressed.
FWD doesn't powerslide. Powersliding is using the accelerator to kick out the rear wheels by sending too much power to them so they lose grip. That technique can only be done by RWD and AWD vehicles.
@@HazyTown01 oh god here we go again
@@poppachoppa8956 he's not wrong though. drifting originally referred to change of momentum slides like a scandi-flick
Call it how you want to but to me the thing that makes that the difference between a proper drift and this is, like it is said in the video: "You can't build momentum. All you can do is spend it"
When I want to drift my fwd car I tend to just let the car oversteer a little bit, then, when in the middle section of the curve the rear tires start to whistle I immediatly full countersteer, tap handbrake and give throttle and then countersteer again. I Think that if it works on a 69hp 2004 toyota yaris, it can work everywhere
Ehh i wouldn't be so quick to think low power economy cars are so bad. Often times those are the best ones for having fun and they handle great. Power has little to do with sliding, only maintaining one.
Awesome advice here. I'm going to have to try it when I can.
@@sodapopcowboy8620 I’m going drifting in my eclipse, I need too😂
the second countersteer is in the opposite direction of the first or in the same one?
This is the first video I've seen of skilled drivers drifting in FWD cars. I always assumed FWD cars couldn't really do it.
People are finally learning
When ur drifting around in the wintertime in ur fwd car and kno u got way more skill than the beamer tryna slide infront of you
I drift fwd all the time, I’d say its easier to avoid spinning out and maintain control bc you have power to the front wheels but definitely still takes plenty of skill to drift fwd properly 👍🏼
@@030yk you forget that staying in the drift is much harder, it's really not easier lmfao.
@@dilfonicz it's easier to not spin out
@@dilfonicz obviously holding it is harder you have no power to the rear wheels lol
I have an fwd "drifting" video on my channel if anyone is interested. I took it quite easy while filming that video, because I hit a snow bank pretty hard a few days earlier when I filmed that video :D I went a bit too hard in a bank rear first, thus the car straightened and BAM
Also drifting a fwd requires more hand braking and it also prefixes little to no smoke
More smoke than an underpowered rwd car tho 😂
A slow rwd whit shitty tires doesn't smoke either
I used to drift on a downhill course back in the days with my moms 01 Renault Laguna mk2. That thing would slide the rear around quite a bit without the need of the handbrake. And you do have to brake in corners at high speeds to get that rear sliding (40+mph). And if you are gentle enough with the steering and gas pedal at the exit you can exit the drift just as quickly as you entered it.
Looks like shingo got a new opponent
People hating fwd car drift .
But in japan peoplw having fun from it.
The first ever drift comp in Hawaii was won by a fwd civic
its like a fast and funny toy but you know if you break that toy isnt that expensive to repair as a big v8 block of big race car, thats why people still loving hondas fwd or any fwd car for do funny and stupid things, because fwd is happinness when you're bored lmao (and they are cheap) (and good) (and cheap)
I learned how to drift my Focus back in the day when there was snow and ice. Had to learn to control the car in those conditions, which had the side effect of having to learn to control oversteer. It's funny, everyone gets so stressed out about driving in snow and ice, it's like my favorite thing in the world.
1:08 lovely break down of the common misconceptions
Good explanations
Used to drift a front wheel without touching the hand break
before approaching the turn point at a speed of 30-40km
I downshift to the 1st gear, while still holding the clutch hit the gas to a high RPM (4)
let the clutch, keep the gas & turn the wheel!
Why is it necessary to hit
The gas and let the clutch?
@@Antonio-li5vp To still have high RPM at the time of letting clutch go, so you have the power neccesary to stay in drift? Not pro's opinion, just guessing
@@Antonio-li5vp Also have tried it, and it works so, yeah, he's spittin facts
I hate everything about this.
10/10 video production.
it gets under your skin don’t it
I do something similar in my car, but I use the tires to drag it, and no handbrake. I just abuse the slip angle for slides and correcting my car thru turns. Car I have is really easy to abuse Physics tho lmao. I feelt like it was hacking for the longest time, but it would appear some real G's here have been having a good time for a while lmao. Love the vid.
what car*?
@@Difixed Saturn Sl2.
yooo, those are sick, reminds me of nissan 300z in styling.
@@Difixed bro, I love the car lmao.i just have to figure out something for its diff iasue lmao. Did you see the Ridge Chaser vid, where he used an sl2 to Toge? I was like "WHAAAAAAAT?!"
I recommend drifting in winter, when theres snow, so if u crash to snow it wont damage ur car as much as in summertime if crashing to a tree or something
In Rally we use left foot braking. I rarely use the handbrake, only used in hairpin turns.
yeah, with enough speed and control, a foot break is plentiful to slide you around a dirt corner.
From what i can see (correct me if im wrong), front wheel drive is inertia drift and not power drift which you can easily do on underpowered rwd cars while on downhill curves
Not the same as RWD for sure but thats pretty impressive. I can drift FWD on gravel using front breaks and trnsfering weight but i can't hold it for that long. I used to have a 700kg 3 cylinder swift i could flick around roundabouts and tighter turns through weight transfer but again i could not hold it for long. It was all in the light weight the turn in around sharp turns was not comparable to any other car i have driven.
damn thats crazy. ive never seen it before
Put some big heavy sway bars on the rear, that should really help! ;)
1:50 That backfire ended his drift 😐
That is because the "backfire" was actually the tyre blowing up... Not fun!
i used to do FWD drifting on Gran Turismo 2 using the same technique!
Try to do that on GT4
@@medmusic7977 could try, GT4 is kinda wierd to drift, could try it on AC tho
@@RogueBeatsARG yeah it’s impossible to drift there
Yeah AC is pretty cool, not only u learn how to drift but that also applies to real life.
There are some misconceptions in this video. FF cars are unlikely to oversteer because the car is being pulled rather than pushed not because there is more weight in the front. In fact, having more weight in the front makes it more difficult to whip the tail out and why drift trucks add weight to the rear.
Having power sent to the front means you can spin out the front tires, breaking traction and understeering. This is why rwd cars are easier to drift. It's easier to spin out the tires that have power.
More weight over the front or rear means more traction in that area, but remember you can break traction by spinning out the wheels.
Thats why timing your braking in fwd is important for drifting
Do I have to prepare the car first right? Going with high revs or using hand brake could damage the engine/brakes/clutch/transmission? Or you can drift any car as long as it has enough power to drift? I always wondered that. Nice explanation!
it's all about weight and momentum management. you need to build the momentum up and then use the weight of the car to slide with either a throttle lift, scandinavian flick, or the handbrake. also high revs wont do anything but burn fuel faster when you keep it under the redline.
there's a stellar video by conorsev on the 3 main methods of fwd "drifting." more than any HP number, the key is understanding the weight shift. I've got a 150hp 2018 5spd stock Jetta, and I use just handbrake n brake weight shifting cause I can't go fast enough safely on my back roads to use let off oversteer. the video really breaks down the methods far better than I can articulate lol
@@aayushbagul3702 thank you! I have a 91 Mazda 323f, it has 88hp. I was wondering how the car would handle at drifting but I've never done that so that tips would help.
@@MattDols the dude in the red EG6 in this video said that wider front tires in the front helped, and smaller tires in the rear helped. That's a tip i'd look into if possible.
Used to take my old Lucerne to my local mall and rip donuts all the time. Friends didn’t believe me until I took them with. Just gotta tap the gas and maintain your speed the minute you don’t that’s when you lose control. Like trying to write with your left hand just because you think it’s impossible doesn’t mean it isn’t with practice 🤙
ye, but its not as fun as RWD drifting. Sensation is different, since you are not pushing yourself through the corners
Try all wheel drive drifting. Even more fun then since you full throttle while you drifting
2:50 what is this cute little thing?
honda city, looks like an EF tho
I do it in the mountains without the handbrake. Just a quick flick of the steering wheel and I have my little van sideways at 80kms on a mountain edge. The throttle gets you out of it
The WRC anyone ever watch a rally? ...Of course it's possible what are we even talking about here? Wow 🤔
in the winter i only put snow tires on the front and i would drift around all the time in town fun stuff lol
petting my fwd skoda octavia to give it encouragement to oversteer 🥰🥰🥰
1:16
Me: You can do it buddy! I believe in you!
Shoulders and biceps day!
Ok now it make sense that why this EG hatchback has appeared on Initial D.
can i do it in a stock D16 tho? i slid it fully sideways once and recovered but that was bc it was wet that day
yea why not, pls dont die
Amazing
Can you drift using a FWD car with CVT?
As a Honda guy who matured into a drift guy.
I just cant class dragging the handbrake as drifting.
If our Japanese friends said so, then it's drifting. No matter what, since you're sliding your car into the apex.
FWD drifting is more drifting, than RWD, cuz RWD powerslides after apex. In FWD car technically cant powerslide, so...
@@hehmda1745 lol
Learned drifting from a D1 driver from Team Orange in Japan. The first thing they teach is using hand brake technique. Hand braking is the most original drifting technique.
I kind of drift by weight shifting during winter. Then it really doesn't matter what the car is, although 4WD is the easy mode for that kind of drifting. Still, in my opinion handbraking is kind of lame.
Weird but cool
This is cool and fun, we used to do this back in high school with beater FWD cars before we moved to RWD cars, but man people have blurred the definition of "drifting" by saying every slide is a drift. Too many people are calling "powersliding", "drifting", these days. "Drifting" is not just any old sliding around, a general slide in any car is called a "powerslide". A "Drift" is a controlled sideways burnout while the car is moving forward, only RWD can really do this. This was the general definition since the 80s, I dont know why people keep trying to blur the definition. If you cant control the burnout its not a drift. If you aren't even burning out, its not a drift. I need to make a video since it appears far too many people don't know the difference, you would think a dedicated drift channel would know this lol. Yes you can slide a FWD car that is nothing new, and yes its still fun, we been doing it in rally forever lol. The only thing new is people are calling it drifting, which it is not, I think its probably a fear of missing out thing. And yes you NEED the handbrake, it is not optional, do not make it seem like its optional. Watch your own video those guys are pumping that handbrake nonstop. We had to as well back in the day.
Really wonder were this definition came from since drifting was born in a shitty 100hp corolla and was basically powersliding corners just chill a bit who gives a fuck what drifting is it's for fun anyway it's not like it will win you any race
@@cristianseminario7899 Accurate factual information is important. Especially for people who want to participate at events. This misinformation is giving people a false sense of hope. If you are ok with people bringing a fwd to a drift event you are in for a rude awakening. You havent been involved in an actual drift scene at any level and it shows lol. People who actually drift will point and laugh at anyone showing up to a drift event with a fwd car, they more than likely will not let you participate because you cant hold a drift. You will break the line and piss off everyone behind you and more than likely cause a wreck. They might let you chase behind every one but they sure as hell wont let you lead. Why? Because no you can't actually drift a fwd. If you have ever drifted a car on a track with low speed corners you would actually know that, but I like I said it is 100% FOMO.
@@socksonfeet8125 don't need to be involved it's just entertainment for the driver and the one that looks at it if it looks good it's fine whatever the drivetrain is. You drift guys are too fixated on the meaning of a word and can't see any further than that. The video clearly shows some decent action 100% better than a kid that just got his licence and a rwd car
@@cristianseminario7899 read the first sentence in my original post, still stand by that. You can't call an orange an apple and expect everyone to be okay with it. But hey do what you want, people are calling their gender all kinds of stupid made up shit these days. Not surprised you want to say 2+3 =19. But like I said go ahead do what you want. If your rear wheels aren't doing a burnout its not a drift, period.
Japanese brain 🧠 is really 👌🏻👍🏻
Good to learn in a fwd first anyways, take it off-road.
Honestly it looks like a Temu version of drifting.
Another technique. Powerslide🥶
If a powerslide the car will straighten it self at mid turn
WOW!!! It is amazing! They have skill!
I wonder how many Hondas were totaled after this video was released
i drift an old fwd manual from 2002 with no power steering and a broken handbrake and the car is so heavy
Where is this footage from?
i like druifting with front wheel cars.
can you tell me the difference between drifting and powerslide? briefly
Powerslide = slipping after the apex of the corner
Drifting = slipping before the apex of the corner
The secret for FWD is flinging your wrist opposite before turn in heel-toe downshift with a very soft front end with a really stiff rear end + good sticky tires to keep pulling you through. But don't drift a FWD please, You are just going to be replacing rear brakes and flattened out rear tires at twice the rate a RWD car would with no cool points gained.
What car is this red one at 3:38 when the scene changes? It's also at the very very beginning in the opening sequence.
it did show ae101
Subi Boi’s big mad
These Honda guys need to learn about hydraulic e-brake
I keep telling my son you can drift in a front wheel drive but it is different to a rear wheel drive! Lol. 😂. I have to admit I love drifting in a rear wheel tho! But if my Hyundai excel can drift? Then any front wheel drive can!!!
Cool !!!
Nice.
I can do fwd drift
But in gran turismo
Ever heard of SAAB?
I did this shit all the time and have so much control around corner and feel like a king because nobody think fed can do dat lol
So they are power sliding not drifting
Bruv never seen such thing in me life
It's look like FR.
So you’re telling me there’s a chance
top 10 coisas
Fwd is just better aslong as you can frive it right
I WANNA BE ON RACE TRACK BUT ITS SOO EXPENSIVE🥲
Too bad I have a shitty electric parking brake that’s the standard on all new cars. Can’t even turn the brake on/off unless the battery is on
I learned that I broke both my front axle
can you do a 370z
this is called powersliding. its LITERALLY impossible for a FWD car to drift because drifting means a rear wheel drive car sliding while accelerating and maintaining control.
therefore a FWD car cant do this..
fwd drifting is possible but it isnt practical because it causes more strain on the drive train than a rwd
since when have drift cars ever been built to be durable lol
Not so sure about that😅
FF TANDEMS DAAAM
I feel like fwd drift faster then rwd
Its fun, but definitely not faster.
Drift is slow to begin whit
Now drift a 1970 Toronado.
can you drift in a fwd automatic?
Automatic car can drift you just need to be skilled
bet thnx @@Popo_Cruiser
@@skulldude101 no problem
On my way now to crash my shitbox Galant
Possible? Yes. Decent? No.
Where is you can’t do this in pro street
Of course you can oversteer a FWD car. YOU CAN"T POWERDRIFT IT THOUGH. That's the point mate. you just can't power slide it.
If you want to see proper ff driving wATCH YOU TUBE VIDEO best of jean ragnotti and renault clio kit car - with pure engine sounds
I see, I don't get it
I’m kinda retarted
you put what i was feeling into words
Hahahahahahahaha
no. it's not drifting.
Yeah, but it's lame...
all drifting is more lame than pure speed. drifting is for people who dont drive fast
You’re kidding right? Those are either AWD or RWD converted, theres wheel spin on the back of the wheels on all those cars, theres no FWD setup on this video
They aren't converted, if u can't afford a RWD, u can't convert a FWD one
@@Nice5fps anything can be converted, look at fwd cars rwd converted
There’s wheel spin because they are letting off the e brake and the tires are trying to get traction in those few seconds while the driver lets off. All these cars are fwd and you can even look them up.
That's not drifting
then what's drift
that's not powerslide tho
This powersliding. Not drifting fwd cant drift 👀
This is drifting, FWDs can't powerslide cause that involves inducing oversteer by applying power, in a FWD all that would do is grip back instead of sliding.
@@HachiKamurithank you for saying that for me. Folks out here using terms they don't even understand. From the mouths of babes.
@@HazyTown01 No problem!
Go and see arabs how they drift
thats not drifitng, its powersliding
Power sliding is when the slide happens after the apex. Literally the only required for drifting is a loss of traction
@@christhompson4950 Do you mean that if this happens on a square lot, then it is not powerslide, because there is no apex... but when very same thing happens on the track, then it is powerslide, because there is apex? ... lol, what a foolish comment
Whether something is or is not powersliding has nothing to do with any apex...
@Karlo is right, it's not drifting they cannot control drift with throttle like in RWD car, because in FWD it would immediately pull you out of the drift and straighten out. You can only start sliding and slide through, but you cannot sustain the drift like in RWD... With RWD you can drive maintain driftcontinuously through entire track. This cannot be compared with FWD
@@tomasrusek5247 ruclips.net/video/dKziKX9SZ7I/видео.html here’s a video of fwd drifting.
if you’re not just doing donuts, you’ve made your own apex, because you made your own corner, so there’s no sense in what you said (as you’re incredibly stupid). And there’s no need for throttle control in a drift (it’s just very much so important for almost any one including myself) because a drift is just a controlled slide. You can drift anything that moves, even if it’s not under its own power, the problem is your lack of skill.
@@tomasrusek5247You don't know what cornering is? Do you know the basics of track racing? What's apex to you?
@@tomasrusek5247Drifting is literally just controlling a slide, which is what these cars are doing, don't need throttle to do that. Not only that but powersliding requires *powering* to induce a slide, if you know anything about FWDs you know that'll just pull the car through with grip instead of sliding.
@conorsev does it best
Yeah its harder than rwd still drifting tho noobs