How Will History Judge Jonny Bairstow & Where Now For Bairstow?👀🍿| Kimber & Harmy

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    talkSPORT's Cricket editor and presenter Jon Norman sits down with former Durham and England cricket writer Jarrod Kimber to discuss all things cricket.
    In today's episode, Kimber & Harmy discuss how history will judge Jonny Bairstow & Where now for Bairstow after being dropped for England's first test against The Windies
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  • @swiggsoclock
    @swiggsoclock 19 дней назад +75

    Harmison is the master of saying the same thing 6 times in 2 different ways

    • @larrygerry985
      @larrygerry985 19 дней назад

      He is terrible

    • @sanh595
      @sanh595 19 дней назад +5

      He is terrible, but Zaheer khan can do it in 8 different ways

    • @grayalun
      @grayalun 18 дней назад +1

      @@swiggsoclock He is awful 😂, I like the Nasser and Athers channel though.

    • @Blade14717
      @Blade14717 17 дней назад +3

      Struggles greatly with the English language

    • @abhijithashok2564
      @abhijithashok2564 16 дней назад

      ​@@Blade14717isn't he English ?

  • @mcdelive
    @mcdelive 19 дней назад +8

    Kimber said it perfectly in the nicest possible way 😅
    Harmison shouldnt be anywhere near a mic

  • @sonnyrust8479
    @sonnyrust8479 14 дней назад +2

    Bairstow will be remembered as a player who gave absolutely everything. He was barely fit in the 2023 Ashes but still gave his all, after an injury that would have ended careers of people with less bottle.
    He was one of the most feared white ball openers between 2015 and 2021, who scored runs for fun at an astonishing rate. He was also one of the fastest fielders as a sweeper before his injury. I’ll never forget his 100 at 3 in Sri Lanka when he just exuded pure passion. As an England fan, I also think a team with Jonny in, is a team that also cares and will always fight to the fullest.

  • @shirishgupta20
    @shirishgupta20 19 дней назад +2

    This is a fantastic series of discussions started. Keep continuing

  • @hegemonial1
    @hegemonial1 19 дней назад +14

    For all the critics aimed at bairstow he was the only player who clawed back england from the 5th test against india when india hold the aces till lunch on 4th day. Without him the series would have been handed over to india and 3-1 scoreline the end result. Since the devastating injury he has played 10 test matches and almost scored a century with 99 on the fourth ashes test. Let us compare pope, crawley with him. After roughly 40 test matches both have the same average and test hundreds. Even stokes has the same average. I honestly believe that if bairstow is given the backing he will for sure come good. He was the only player who scored a match saving century in down under. Rob Key should be reminded of his contributions.

    • @Dickkokballz
      @Dickkokballz 19 дней назад

      Bairstow has played over 100 matches and averages 30. He plays good innings but overall is poor. Stop being delusional

  • @maverick792
    @maverick792 19 дней назад +20

    Steve Harmison is in La La Land

  • @rgfitness6425
    @rgfitness6425 19 дней назад +21

    Who has made Harmison an expert? Even he not sure what he is talking

  • @Lofi-Globe
    @Lofi-Globe 19 дней назад +1

    He has been part of a selfless and excellent white ball team for many years… by far England’s best ever white ball team… and second place isn’t even close. The teams always come first in this era which hasn’t always been the case, so thanks for your efforts and contributions Johnny.

  • @richardhill5792
    @richardhill5792 19 дней назад +3

    Once you damage a leg like that, it's always a doubt in your mind and you never forget about it. I had a motorcycle accident and smashed my left leg to bits, this was eight years ago and even now, I don't trust it completely.

  • @MrHistorian123
    @MrHistorian123 15 дней назад

    I first met Jonny when he was a 15 year old playing against my son's team. He was astonishingly talented, but a really unpleasant, mouthy individual. He was clearly devastated by his father's death and it affected him.
    I met him about 6 years ago at York when I was playing there and he was watching and he was mature and pleasant.
    He's probably one of England's greatest white ball players and a good test wicketkeeper batsman. He'd have been even better if England hadn't messed him about so much.

  • @tricksbyumer
    @tricksbyumer 19 дней назад

    Where can i watch full episodes of these?

    • @gts8919
      @gts8919 19 дней назад

      @@tricksbyumer i think you'll have to listen to talksport radio.

  • @grayalun
    @grayalun 19 дней назад +3

    Bairstow would have had a much better record if England hadn't messed him about so much.

  • @Bert-lw1ot
    @Bert-lw1ot 20 дней назад +19

    Bairstow is a very selfless player. He’s played here there and everywhere in the batting line up for the sake of the team and he’s often got less runs than he could have, because we’ve needed quick runs at the time

    • @ce11amitkumaryadav83
      @ce11amitkumaryadav83 19 дней назад +2

      He batted everywhere just to remain in team , first he was keeper batsmen , then played as proper batsmen then move to 3 as there was better player in middle order 🤣🤣🤣, people calling everything selfless now a days 😂😂😂😂
      Worst player to play 100 test

    • @Bert-lw1ot
      @Bert-lw1ot 19 дней назад

      ​@@ce11amitkumaryadav83to fix his slot? What does that even mean?

    • @ce11amitkumaryadav83
      @ce11amitkumaryadav83 19 дней назад

      @@Bert-lw1ot I have edited

    • @Bert-lw1ot
      @Bert-lw1ot 19 дней назад +1

      @@ce11amitkumaryadav83 he was never good enough to be a 3, but Root's refusal to play there meant Bairstow was the one who made the sacrifice. He went through an unbelievable spell a couple of years ago when it was him AND Foakes in the team and he was left to play at 5

    • @cosmocurnow8457
      @cosmocurnow8457 19 дней назад

      can’t keep mate, ashes 2023 🤣

  • @leela5022
    @leela5022 19 дней назад +3

    I think hes extremely talented and still looked upon as an option,but mainly for sena nations not asia

  • @khantk2732
    @khantk2732 19 дней назад +10

    Some of Harmison's views appear to be a bit biased.

  • @jetpark3743
    @jetpark3743 19 дней назад +2

    Extremely talented player

  • @dannyhawthorne3262
    @dannyhawthorne3262 15 дней назад +1

    Hes a great white ball player one of the best we have produced 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

  • @jameskeays9284
    @jameskeays9284 19 дней назад +7

    He’ll be forever remembered for his brain fade.

  • @user-mq5wy7hx6u
    @user-mq5wy7hx6u 19 дней назад +4

    Bristow is great one day player, good t 20 player and average test player

    • @Matthew-bu7fg
      @Matthew-bu7fg 18 дней назад +3

      i always found him tremendous on the oche

    • @longjohn5322
      @longjohn5322 14 дней назад

      I don’t think the stats support your assertion that he was an average Test player. How many that have played Test cricket end up with 6000 runs?

  • @sharanpahlajani1747
    @sharanpahlajani1747 20 дней назад +30

    Bairstow had his moments, but for a country with the riches of talent/systems like England, about time he's gotten rid of. Flat track bully who could never replicate his good form enough in testing conditions or long enough throughout his career.

    • @jetpark3743
      @jetpark3743 19 дней назад +3

      You don't know cricket at all. Lame

    • @longjohn5322
      @longjohn5322 14 дней назад

      @@jetpark3743 So are you going to offer your own view or just shout down someone else’s. Weak!

  • @kaalishanmugam5796
    @kaalishanmugam5796 19 дней назад +1

    Johnny is simple. Outside Asia he can be like, "why not?", but in Asia, "Dont even bother"!

  • @nitishdubey22
    @nitishdubey22 19 дней назад +1

    I want the same stuff that Steve Harmison is having!!!

  • @agr7879
    @agr7879 19 дней назад

    Got bowled through the gate far too often for my liking. Amazing to think how outstanding he was in 2022, yet now he’s done with

    • @gts8919
      @gts8919 18 дней назад

      @@agr7879 The Wall Rahul Dravid holds the record for most times bowled in tests 🤣

  • @timgibson2540
    @timgibson2540 19 дней назад +11

    Bairstow has always been the easy target for the cricket elites, he has been fantastic in all formats for England

    • @samgh-nw1sh
      @samgh-nw1sh 19 дней назад +2

      36 average in tests. good, yes, great at times, but fantastic? i'm not sure.

    • @gts8919
      @gts8919 18 дней назад

      @@samgh-nw1sh Same test average as Chokendra Dhobi 🤣

  • @muhammadshamail9175
    @muhammadshamail9175 19 дней назад

    hearing rahat alis name surprised me
    thought no one else remembered him

    • @rgfitness6425
      @rgfitness6425 19 дней назад +1

      Rahat Fateh Ali khan 🎵🎵🎵

    • @jayakrishnashenoy
      @jayakrishnashenoy 19 дней назад +2

      Jarrod probably remembers players from obscure sunday leagues. Let alone a forgotten international cap 😂

  • @paulgill2042
    @paulgill2042 19 дней назад

    I thought that Harmison said he doesn't even like cricket.

  • @ram.a8923
    @ram.a8923 19 дней назад

    I think it's too early to talk about Johnny Bairstow's retirement because i believe he can still deliver a lot more dashing runs for England in Test format, obviously now he's going through a lean bad patch because of that freak injury but once he corrects his technical issues and rekindle his diminishing form i think this time there'll be more runs will flow from his bat for England so please don't write off Johnny this early I'm sure he's going to come back in to form and it'll be a bombastic event for England Cricket

  • @gts8919
    @gts8919 19 дней назад +2

    Why is everyone after Bairstow? Shoaib Akhtar called him overrated on Sportskeeda 😂

    • @Sothpawman
      @Sothpawman 19 дней назад +3

      Extremely overrated, much like most England players. Would not make it into the 11 of any top side like Aus and India.

    • @gts8919
      @gts8919 19 дней назад +3

      @@Sothpawman If Bairstow is overrated, so are Chu*iya Kumar Yadav and Harpic Pandya. One fluke final won't change that fact 🤣

    • @jamesburke1168
      @jamesburke1168 19 дней назад +2

      @@SothpawmanI don’t think you understand the meaning of ‘overrated’

    • @gts8919
      @gts8919 19 дней назад +1

      @@Sothpawman England won both white ball World Cups but apparently India are the top side 🤣

    • @3_smh_3
      @3_smh_3 18 дней назад +1

      @@gts8919 if that is a fluke final then what is umpire brain-fart + boundary count? pull your pants up and sit down.

  • @parkjohns9696
    @parkjohns9696 19 дней назад +1

    Is Harmy shaking a little bit? It reminds me of Allan Border’s last few years in the media

    • @MegatronRacing237
      @MegatronRacing237 18 дней назад

      He’s always been like that. Introverts do that

  • @SPPalmer01
    @SPPalmer01 17 дней назад

    Has Harmison watched him play 🤔

  • @Matthew-bu7fg
    @Matthew-bu7fg 18 дней назад

    One word - patchy

  • @AbhijithNairCurlyHairedGeek
    @AbhijithNairCurlyHairedGeek 15 дней назад

    A colonoscopy would be less painful than hearing steve harmison talk.

  • @mattreid2463
    @mattreid2463 16 дней назад

    Tell Harmison to get his big size 12 out of the camera

  • @longjohn5322
    @longjohn5322 14 дней назад

    If Jonny had a little more technical ability I think he could’ve been a little more successful and consistent. I didn’t see anything like the whole of his career but there were a number of times that I witnessed a run of outs that had me questioning not only his technique but where his head was at. My views are based on Test cricket, I have little interest in anything else unless it’s a 50 over World Cup. I know he was a dangerous and successful white ball player but too much of that isn’t under the same microscope as Tests. Anyone who scores 6000 Test runs has had a great career.

  • @littledevil2785
    @littledevil2785 17 дней назад

    Bairstow is a great player…

  • @yogeshrajoriya3092
    @yogeshrajoriya3092 19 дней назад +3

    I have never seen Bairstow perform against India except that 5th test in 2022. He might be decent player of pace but a very poor player of spin.

    • @swapnilraipure3314
      @swapnilraipure3314 19 дней назад

      Iske bs 2-3 hi achievement dikhte hai 😂😂😂 2019 CWC me iski eng ke liye performance aur ind ke against 5th test me hundred baaki ka iska koi performance yaad nhi jo aacha ho personal milestone ke alawa

    • @shoaibmemon8788
      @shoaibmemon8788 19 дней назад

      ​@@swapnilraipure3314bhai aese to mujhe Hardik Pandya ki bhi 1 aadh performance hi yaad aa rahi hai

    • @swapnilraipure3314
      @swapnilraipure3314 19 дней назад

      @@shoaibmemon8788 tu sach mai Mera Bhai hai 😂😂😂 same meri trh sochta hai. Bilkul sahi bol. Clutch runs alg baat hai match nikalna alg baat. Log bolte pandya clutch pandya hai. Bc kayka clutch pandya match agr nhi nikal ska to faltu hai runs. Jaise Virat ke 2014 wt20 final wt20 semi against wi ke runs Pani me gye koi uske baare me baat nhi krta. Pr pandya ke runs ko World Cup ke trf glorify krte hai 😑😑😑 jbki vo jyda tr lossing causes me aate hai 😑😑😑

    • @shoaibmemon8788
      @shoaibmemon8788 19 дней назад

      @@swapnilraipure3314 Bhai sari baten theek par 2014 ke final mein yuvraj ne balls zaya ken and 2016 ke world cup mein Bhumra ne no bowl par Russel ko out kia jisne baad mein match palat dia, par Pandya ki hype samajh se bahar hai, jabke hype Muhammad Shami ki honi chahiye, Hardik Panday ko log Legendary Kapil Dev se compare karte haan 🤦‍♂️

    • @swapnilraipure3314
      @swapnilraipure3314 19 дней назад

      @@shoaibmemon8788 sahi bola pr bhai 2016 hardik aur Ashwin ne no ball dala tha 😂😂😂. 2017 me bumrah ne no ball dala.

  • @hasanramzan6578
    @hasanramzan6578 18 дней назад

    Maybe he should give up on tests and concentrate on white ball cricket where he is still a great player. Despite his rough patch, he is capable of scoring in white ball cricket

  • @jamesrichardson3500
    @jamesrichardson3500 19 дней назад +5

    His average tells the story. Wasn't good enough to keep but wanted the gloves and got his way. A decent cricketer who had great moments, but he is just that.....a moments cricketer.

    • @jamesburke1168
      @jamesburke1168 19 дней назад

      Red ball I’d agree, but I wouldn’t agree he’s a moments players when it comes to white ball cricket

  • @naman1325
    @naman1325 19 дней назад +1

    Wouldn't have played 100 tests for India or Australia ,doubt if he would even get a chance for test debut ,okay as white ball player

    • @gts8919
      @gts8919 18 дней назад

      @@naman1325 Ian Healy played 119 tests for Australia and scored only 4 centuries 🤣

    • @dluap569161
      @dluap569161 18 дней назад

      @@gts8919 Healy was a wicketkeeper who batted a bit. Bairstow has always been selected for his batting.

  • @markhorley6871
    @markhorley6871 20 дней назад +1

    Good player who has exceeded his skill set but I also think he has been the cause of a few players being held back
    ..Dan Lawrence, Ben Foakes and more

    • @LampsGaming
      @LampsGaming 20 дней назад +1

      Foakes can't bat. Barely scores runs in counties and no way he's gonna survive against Cummins, Starc etc

  • @seshadrir2057
    @seshadrir2057 19 дней назад +1

    bairstow always looks like a bits & pieces player.

  • @cupidstunt22
    @cupidstunt22 18 дней назад

    Johnny lost his mojo when he grew his moobs

  • @sayedafif739
    @sayedafif739 19 дней назад

    Same like Dilshan is remembered.

    • @gts8919
      @gts8919 19 дней назад +4

      @@sayedafif739 Wtf, Dilshan is totally underrated. 10,000+ ODI runs and top scorer at multiple editions of the World Cup. Horrific take 😂

    • @MegatronRacing237
      @MegatronRacing237 18 дней назад

      What are you talking about 😂

  • @lindsaybaker9480
    @lindsaybaker9480 19 дней назад

    Inconsistent

  • @JonathanWells-xt3oj
    @JonathanWells-xt3oj 19 дней назад +2

    Without doubt the worst player to play 100 tests. He should have been dropped 18 months ago. Harmison talking absolute nonsense per usual.

    • @gts8919
      @gts8919 18 дней назад

      @@JonathanWells-xt3oj Is he worse than Ian Healy who played 119 tests and scored only 4 centuries? 🤣

    • @dluap569161
      @dluap569161 18 дней назад

      @@gts8919 Invalid comparison. Ian Healy was always selected as a wicketkeeper and batted mostly at 7 (121 innings) and 8 (43 innings) behind a mostly strong batting lineup (think: Taylor, Hayden, Border, Boon, Slater, the Waughs, Ponting, Martyn, Langer etc). He was NEVER selected mainly for his batting, unlike Bairstow. Four centuries batting at 7 in such an era is pretty good. A better comparison would be between Healy and keepers like Alan Knott or Bob Taylor - excellent wicketkeepers who, like Healy, also batted a bit. Healy was also selected in the ACB's team of the 20th century, ahead of great keepers like Marsh, Grout, and Tallon. I doubt Bairstow will be in the ECB's team of the 21st century.

    • @warrenfoster1931
      @warrenfoster1931 17 дней назад +1

      ⁠@@gts8919Are you serious? Healy has that many more dismissals than Bairstow it is not funny. In fact only Boucher and Gilchrist have more dismissals than him. Healy was picked at a time when wicketkeepers were picked to keep wicket first and bat second. Terrible comparison.

    • @gts8919
      @gts8919 16 дней назад

      @@warrenfoster1931 Seems like Bairstow is held to a higher standard than the likes of Healy, Boucher and Dhobi. Which is my point 🤣

    • @gts8919
      @gts8919 16 дней назад

      @@dluap569161 Gilchrist also batting low in the order but still has a stellar batting record. Healy plain sucked 😂 And Bairstow in the 21st century ranks ahead of Geraint Jones, Paul Nixon and Matt Prior 😘

  • @harishr6740
    @harishr6740 19 дней назад

    Guys stop sitting around and bitching about Jonny..

  • @willgoodall1529
    @willgoodall1529 15 дней назад

    Was a destructive player at times. But I think he lived off his dad's reputation, especially with a lot of the pundits

  • @flatbat8571
    @flatbat8571 19 дней назад +1

    A player with huge flaws in his game who, because of his many friends in the media, talk about him as though he's a great, when actually he averages 36

  • @abhishekihma
    @abhishekihma 19 дней назад +2

    Axar patel bunny 🐰

    • @garya1714
      @garya1714 19 дней назад

      Everyone is a potential bunny when facing Axar 😂

  • @amitm2692
    @amitm2692 20 дней назад +4

    Extremely mediocre player except a few good innings on flat roads

  • @RDizzle87
    @RDizzle87 19 дней назад +2

    He was ok.. did not play in the SPIRIT of the game tho.. and that will be his LEGACY

  • @jamescoupland131
    @jamescoupland131 19 дней назад +1

    He should retire from England and concentrate on Yorkshire

  • @sudeepmajumder9743
    @sudeepmajumder9743 19 дней назад

    He never scored runs in sub continent

  • @haritt008
    @haritt008 19 дней назад +1

    Why do not you ever discuss the greatest white ball bowler ever, Bumrah?? Instead of these shitty overhyped English batsmen … Jealous ???

    • @koulmemaybe
      @koulmemaybe 19 дней назад +5

      RUclips search Jarrod Kimber bumrah, he's done like three hours of content on him

    • @AM2K2
      @AM2K2 19 дней назад

      Why do you listen to English media if you hate it so much? Very strange 🤣

    • @Dilmahkana
      @Dilmahkana 19 дней назад +10

      It's an English based show... get over 'yourself'

    • @haritt008
      @haritt008 19 дней назад

      @@Dilmahkana ohh is it? I never knew that… it’s ok to be selfish than, Cheers !

    • @JY-ev5ms
      @JY-ev5ms 19 дней назад

      ​@@haritt008 Selfish? An Indian coming on to a English channel complaining about not talking about Indian players... You're unbearable

  • @the_drifter-bw9hj
    @the_drifter-bw9hj 20 дней назад +1

    If Rohit Sharma was mediocre and had half the talent he has 😂