I bought one 2 months ago and I have to say very good bike with a lot of extras from factory comfortable and very beautiful at least for my taste! With 2 years warranty there is nothing to fear plus Loncin is a giant motorcycle and engine manufacturer
I like the added extras like the crash bars being included. You're spot on about Chinese stuff. Virtually all of our electronics are made in China and as you say many other goods.
Thanks for this review. I can tell you exactly who this bike was made for....me! I just bought the very bike you were riding, so I'm glad you liked it and looked after it. I hope to explore many green lanes on it. Cheers.
Thanks, Dave; an unbiased report. When Honda first started importing motorcycles into the UK, many people were dismissive of them. The perception was that they were cheap rubbish... Didn't that perception change quickly! Back in 1968 I owned a 1966 Honda CB77, the Super Hawk, 305 cc twin and it was a better and faster bike than most British ones of over twice the capacity. In 2022 I bought a new Skygo Earl Classic 150 at a big dealer to use here in the Philippines; it's actually a locally-assembled Lifan, from China, so parts are no worries - not that I've needed any. Has kick and electric start, is oil-tight, CDI with a carby, disc front/drum rear, weighs 106kg with a 5-speed 'box. Works fine, more than keeps up with the local traffic and runs on the smell of an oily rag. Cost? 45K peso cash, ride away - say around 670 GBP. Engine mounts and numerous other parts etc are the same as the Honda... What's not to like?
Good review of the bike. I guess in many respects it is better than Honda CRF300L, not least in the price! The seat height seems a bit daunting though.
I have no doubt the bike will be built to a good standard for the price . The only problems I can foresee will be due to the motorcycle media & the usual mention of an A2 bike should have the maximum horsepower allowed . Another problem could be parts supply if the bike doesn’t sell in large numbers in U.K. to justify aftermarket producing good pattern parts & extras . As for it being Chinese I wouldn’t worry ,as one of my bikes is a Suzuki Vee Strom 250 DE Chinese built ,with well tried & tested engine ,& from what I can see built just as good as any modern Japanese built Suzuki . The Chinese have certainly upped there game ,& I doubt if there is any new bike ,that doesn’t contain at least parts or an engine built in China,if not the whole machine . If the engine is used on other bikes I reckon engine parts shouldn’t be a problem , & I dare say some of the other parts barring plastics will be fairly generic ,so for the price ,it’s got to be worth a punt ,especially for those that do their own maintenance & repairs . Good review 👍
Had a Chinese trailie a few ago bought it for pennies, some assembly required, ran it for the summer mostly off road, on road to get to off road, called it red baron as it was post box red and vibrated like a biplane above 50mph. Sold it for what a bought it for and had a right bloody laugh on it Almost forgot, i had a beep beep buzzer on the indicators, weirdly people noticed it, sounded like a bin wagon when turning 😂 Top tip, do a couple of mates rates wiring jobs for the local farmers and enjoy all the off-road you could even want
I still like the look of this bike even after saying no to the dealer after a test ride. The buzzy nature of the engine went through my bum and I ended up with mild tooth ache aswell. I was not inpressed with the rust issues either! Other than that I am sure it will last you a couple of years before you have to get rid!
Late again, Dave but another good overview. Pleased to see that bikes like these are slowly finding a market. I recall Japanese trail bikes of the 70s/early 80s and this and the CRF are almost a nod to those times. Simple and not festooned with tech. I reckon this bike, if cared for, will perform well as a daily commuter and give a lot of fun and learning on on a prospective buyer's local green lanes. Understandably, there is a lot of doubt concerning this bike's origins. I say, look at the first Japanese bikes coming into the UK market for the first time 60 years' ago. Lots of ridicule. Look at them now. Good one, pal.👍
That might very well have been the case, but that was not my point. Japanese bikes of the early 60s could have been produced with Rolls Royce precision. The problem was trying to convince a very sceptical motorcycling community to buy products from a country they had been at war with 20 odd years previously and were still very angry at. My point was the Japanese were given a chance, why can't the Chinese? What are Chinese bikes going to be like in 60 years, I wonder? Hmmm......🤔
Looks like a great little bike!! I am a beginner looking for my first bike and do you think is possible to do some small touring trip with this Voge? Thanx for the nice review and regards from far away Serbia 🇷🇸✌️
Good Morning Dave , so its chinese so what for the price plus the extra's what's not to like , you are always going to get from other bikers OH its chinese you should have paid a bit more & got a better one , so thank you Dave for this review , take care & ride safe
I like the Voge's looks better than the CRF Rally which has the most hideous headlights I've seen. I like the screen on the Voge, too. Is your local just outside Bingley? 11:34 I got stuck riding roads worse than this in Chiang Rai province on my SCR950 yesterday. Quite by accident as I ran out of tarmac. I didn't enjoy it. I'm moving back to the Skipton/Keighley area next spring for the time of the year I spend in Europe, so I'll check Appleyard's out. I first went there in 1972. Nick J
Not everything what is expensive is always the best in my opinion and the same can be said about things that are cheap Honda service is every 8000 miles and the bike is proven
For £4k,I'd plumb for a second-hand Honda. Chinese bikes are notoriously famous for poor-quality components and next-to-zero residials,whereas the Honda will be of a far better quality with rock-solid second-hand re-sale values.
All over the Internet.Go on any forum. Lots of personal experiences. Plus I have seen many Chinese Bikes looking totally tired at three years old. They have a bad reputation for a reason.@@thebingleywheeler
I bet they said exactly the same thing about the first Hondas in the UK at the beginning of the 60s. Look at big H now. Yeah, your comment doesn't exactly hold much water, does it?😂
Looks to be an lmpressive package. The Kawasaki KLE based motor should be bullet proof. I'd have to pass on the seat hight though. Best wishes, Stephen.
I had a Sinnis 250 Retrostar, plus I know people who've owned lexmotos and these bikes are just as reliable as the established brands but have rubbish periferals such as chains, tyres and suspension.
buy chyna your stuck with chynaaaaaa lol no resale value whatsoever .were a honda is more expensive for a reason the resale value is high like it should be honda the power of dreams. chynaaaa the power to last 15 seconds out the packet.
@@Geshmaal You do see them.. but your right not that often . I like the look of the Voge though ..and its got the electric start which I don't have , but it does kick over easy. Its getting hold of bits like suspension linkage bushes and bearings ..piston calipers that I would be concerned abt . I can get absolutely anything for my 2002 XR .
Good luck come trade in time when they laugh at you saying we don’t touch them with a 10 foot barge pole where as your Honda is still worth almost what you paid for it👍
Keep it as a winter/second bike instead of trading it in.I think it will hold its value pretty well and has better suspension than the Honda from stock.Good review.
I get your point, but look what they said about Japanese bikes entering the UK market 60 odd years' ago. Look at 'em now. Hmmm.....every one deserves a chance, don't you think?
All motor gb have all the bikes but if you passed your test in 1965 and are in your 70s. Then don’t try a test ride at Appleyards. Your too old !,,,,,,
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I bought one 2 months ago and I have to say very good bike with a lot of extras from factory comfortable and very beautiful at least for my taste! With 2 years warranty there is nothing to fear plus Loncin is a giant motorcycle and engine manufacturer
I like the added extras like the crash bars being included. You're spot on about Chinese stuff. Virtually all of our electronics are made in China and as you say many other goods.
Thanks for this review. I can tell you exactly who this bike was made for....me! I just bought the very bike you were riding, so I'm glad you liked it and looked after it. I hope to explore many green lanes on it. Cheers.
Perfect for green lanes
Thanks, Dave; an unbiased report. When Honda first started importing motorcycles into the UK, many people were dismissive of them. The perception was that they were cheap rubbish... Didn't that perception change quickly! Back in 1968 I owned a 1966 Honda CB77, the Super Hawk, 305 cc twin and it was a better and faster bike than most British ones of over twice the capacity. In 2022 I bought a new Skygo Earl Classic 150 at a big dealer to use here in the Philippines; it's actually a locally-assembled Lifan, from China, so parts are no worries - not that I've needed any. Has kick and electric start, is oil-tight, CDI with a carby, disc front/drum rear, weighs 106kg with a 5-speed 'box. Works fine, more than keeps up with the local traffic and runs on the smell of an oily rag. Cost? 45K peso cash, ride away - say around 670 GBP. Engine mounts and numerous other parts etc are the same as the Honda... What's not to like?
Exactly Chris it’s all too easy for people to dismiss things based upon unfounded notions
Good review mate , I rode that exact bike a couple of weeks ago and was well impressed with it 👍
Cheers Mark
Good review of the bike. I guess in many respects it is better than Honda CRF300L, not least in the price! The seat height seems a bit daunting though.
I have no doubt the bike will be built to a good standard for the price . The only problems I can foresee will be due to the motorcycle media & the usual mention of an A2 bike should have the maximum horsepower allowed . Another problem could be parts supply if the bike doesn’t sell in large numbers in U.K. to justify aftermarket producing good pattern parts & extras . As for it being Chinese I wouldn’t worry ,as one of my bikes is a Suzuki Vee Strom 250 DE Chinese built ,with well tried & tested engine ,& from what I can see built just as good as any modern Japanese built Suzuki . The Chinese have certainly upped there game ,& I doubt if there is any new bike ,that doesn’t contain at least parts or an engine built in China,if not the whole machine . If the engine is used on other bikes I reckon engine parts shouldn’t be a problem , & I dare say some of the other parts barring plastics will be fairly generic ,so for the price ,it’s got to be worth a punt ,especially for those that do their own maintenance & repairs . Good review 👍
Exactly my thoughts.
Yes you make some good points there for sure 👍🏻
Had a Chinese trailie a few ago bought it for pennies, some assembly required, ran it for the summer mostly off road, on road to get to off road, called it red baron as it was post box red and vibrated like a biplane above 50mph.
Sold it for what a bought it for and had a right bloody laugh on it
Almost forgot, i had a beep beep buzzer on the indicators, weirdly people noticed it, sounded like a bin wagon when turning 😂
Top tip, do a couple of mates rates wiring jobs for the local farmers and enjoy all the off-road you could even want
I still like the look of this bike even after saying no to the dealer after a test ride. The buzzy nature of the engine went through my bum and I ended up with mild tooth ache aswell. I was not inpressed with the rust issues either! Other than that I am sure it will last you a couple of years before you have to get rid!
Late again, Dave but another good overview.
Pleased to see that bikes like these are slowly finding a market.
I recall Japanese trail bikes of the 70s/early 80s and this and the CRF are almost a nod to those times. Simple and not festooned with tech.
I reckon this bike, if cared for, will perform well as a daily commuter and give a lot of fun and learning on on a prospective buyer's local green lanes.
Understandably, there is a lot of doubt concerning this bike's origins. I say, look at the first Japanese bikes coming into the UK market for the first time 60 years' ago. Lots of ridicule.
Look at them now.
Good one, pal.👍
Thank you Mark I think that the doubts about Chinese bikes are a manifestation of exactly the same doubts about Japanese bikes in the 70s
@@thebingleywheeler Exactly.
As always, looking forward to the next one.👍
I did my Apprenticeship with a Honda Dealer in the sixties...their Products were Superb from the outset......not so with Chinese Automotive ....
That might very well have been the case, but that was not my point. Japanese bikes of the early 60s could have been produced with Rolls Royce precision. The problem was trying to convince a very sceptical motorcycling community to buy products from a country they had been at war with 20 odd years previously and were still very angry at.
My point was the Japanese were given a chance, why can't the Chinese?
What are Chinese bikes going to be like in 60 years, I wonder?
Hmmm......🤔
Looks well thought out for what it is.
You beat me to it pal. Yep Nathan rates it. Personally I’d save up a bit longer and get the new Himalayan.
I think many people will pal be interesting to see what the new Himmy has to offer 👍🏻
Good, fair, sensible review. Thank you.
Looks like a great little bike!! I am a beginner looking for my first bike and do you think is possible to do some small touring trip with this Voge? Thanx for the nice review and regards from far away Serbia 🇷🇸✌️
Nice to hear from Serbia I will see what I can do 😊
Great video thanks. Hola from Argentina!
Hola…great to hear from Argentina 😎👍🏻
Good Morning Dave , so its chinese so what for the price plus the extra's what's not to like , you are always going to get from other bikers OH its chinese you should have paid a bit more & got a better one , so thank you Dave for this review , take care & ride safe
Cheers Steve you too buddy 👍🏻
Makes me think of the Kawasaki klr/kle
I like the Voge's looks better than the CRF Rally which has the most hideous headlights I've seen. I like the screen on the Voge, too.
Is your local just outside Bingley?
11:34 I got stuck riding roads worse than this in Chiang Rai province on my SCR950 yesterday. Quite by accident as I ran out of tarmac. I didn't enjoy it.
I'm moving back to the Skipton/Keighley area next spring for the time of the year I spend in Europe, so I'll check Appleyard's out. I first went there in 1972. Nick J
Cheers Nick yes just outside Bingley
Not everything what is expensive is always the best in my opinion and the same can be said about things that are cheap Honda service is every 8000 miles and the bike is proven
To live with on a dairy basis, would you have a himalayan or a 300 rally ???? 🤔
For £4k,I'd plumb for a second-hand Honda.
Chinese bikes are notoriously famous for poor-quality components and next-to-zero residials,whereas the Honda will be of a far better quality with rock-solid second-hand re-sale values.
Where is the evidence suggesting Chinese bikes are notorious for poor quality components?
All over the Internet.Go on any forum.
Lots of personal experiences.
Plus I have seen many Chinese Bikes looking totally tired at three years old.
They have a bad reputation for a reason.@@thebingleywheeler
I bet they said exactly the same thing about the first Hondas in the UK at the beginning of the 60s.
Look at big H now.
Yeah, your comment doesn't exactly hold much water, does it?😂
Looks to be an lmpressive package. The Kawasaki KLE based motor should be bullet proof. I'd have to pass on the seat hight though. Best wishes, Stephen.
Spot on....Honda have always had Reliability and Integrity.....have attended some Chinese Machinery...and found it sadly lacking..
So remove the breakables, make a decent bash plate, drop a tooth on the front cog and it's a cheap trail bike. Mmn, interesting....
I had a Sinnis 250 Retrostar, plus I know people who've owned lexmotos and these bikes are just as reliable as the established brands but have rubbish periferals such as chains, tyres and suspension.
915 mms? That's Land of the Giants territory (age alert). Are the Chinese getting involved in eugenics, as well as everything else?
The servicing sounds a bit like RE. That is, very short. My Honda is 8,000 miles service interval (or yearly, of course). That's a big difference.
It will be yearly for most folks I’m sure so no different
What is RE?
Royal Enfield
buy chyna your stuck with chynaaaaaa lol no resale value whatsoever .were a honda is more expensive for a reason the resale value is high like it should be honda the power of dreams. chynaaaa the power to last 15 seconds out the packet.
Looks a bargain at that price.
Buy a used Honda crf or xr . At least your assured of reliability and spares .
The Voge will be reliable, but spares... who knows? We'll see.
@@Geshmaal You do see them.. but your right not that often . I like the look of the Voge though ..and its got the electric start which I don't have , but it does kick over easy. Its getting hold of bits like suspension linkage bushes and bearings ..piston calipers that I would be concerned abt . I can get absolutely anything for my 2002 XR .
That's a very good and fair review Mr Bingley Wheeler. Thanks.
Good luck come trade in time when they laugh at you saying we don’t touch them with a 10 foot barge pole where as your Honda is still worth almost what you paid for it👍
Based on what?
Keep it as a winter/second bike instead of trading it in.I think it will hold its value pretty well and has better suspension than the Honda from stock.Good review.
I get your point, but look what they said about Japanese bikes entering the UK market 60 odd years' ago.
Look at 'em now.
Hmmm.....every one deserves a chance, don't you think?
itchy boots rides a Rally not a L
I stand corrected 😊👍🏻
All motor gb have all the bikes but if you passed your test in 1965 and are in your 70s. Then don’t try a test ride at Appleyards. Your too old !,,,,,,
@johnroberts4353 Won’t they let you?