I'll never be the same after watching Se7en...
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Natalie: "She's the one beacon of hope and humanity in this movie."
Me: 😭 😭 😭 📦
15:09 "ya know??"
"What's in the box, what's in the baaaaaaaaaaaax!"
She deserved it for Goop.
Not the box emoji lmaoooo
@@StreetHierarchy The look in her eye when she said 'ya know' made me feel like she knew what was coming. Apparently not lol.
That closing line is such good writing: "Ernest Hemingway once wrote, 'The world is a fine place and worth fighting for.' I agree with the second part."
But if it's shitty, why is it worth fighting for?
@@CptApplestrudl Because it can be better. People not fighting for a better place is what makes it shitty. The film is a critique of apathy, people giving up and not caring.
@@CptApplestrudl Because you live in it.
If you're not trying to make it better, what are you doing with your life that's actually worthwhile?
@@Tyler_W Depends on what's worthwhile to each person.
One of my favorite villain lines of all times: "Become vengeance, David. Become Wrath." So simple, but delivered so well and has such meaning in the context.
Batman: "I'm vengeance".
John Doe: 👀
The lust kill was one of the most effective uses of show don’t tell story telling I have ever seen. Once my mind figured out what exactly happened I was absolutely mortified, such a phenomenal movie
Just so you know, "mortified" means embarrassed and ashamed. I say this because I think you means "horrified" meaning scared and disgusted, but let me know if otherwise.
Yes Lord and that poor man is traumatized forever
I feel the same way, it was a big wtf moment
@@WisteriaDrake that's neat. I didnt know that.
Yes, I absolutely agree with you. I think 'the hollywood' has forgotten that 'implying' something is incredibly affective because it allows the viewer to use their imagination. I'll tell you what, tap into whats already in someone head, its scary, let them...imagine. The best cinema did that for me. All this 'showing' is wreaking the cinema experience.
"The Usual Suspects" was released about a month before "Seven," which is part of the reason why Kevin Spacey's name was not in the opening titles or included in any of the marketing and promotion for the film. If audiences knew Kevin Spacey was in a crime movie where the other two leads played cops, they would know that he's playing another evil mastermind.
Which helped give us that classic video of the guy who hates Kevin Spacey being filmed watching the villain reveal
Interesting Spacey turned out to be a real life psychopath. Played enough of them
Very interesting!
do you copy and paste this on multiple reactions to this or am i just crazy? bc i thought i already watched this and seen this exact comment like weeks ago
@@markusbetts which guy I wanna see that reaction
One of the best movies I have ever watched. dark, disturbing, horrific, and just outright fantastic in terms of writing and cinematography. Glad you watched, nat, hope you don't get nightmares though.
You mean natmares?
@@prometheus705 David Fincher is one of the best directors with Seven and Fight Club.
I can’t believe this is one she hasn’t seen before. This movie blew mind mind all the way apart the first time I saw it. The flash of Gweneth Paltrow’s face at the end 😖🤯🫥
@@joemckim1183 and Alien 3
@@joemckim1183 and the social network
1995 was a phenomenal year for crime films: Se7en, The Usual Suspects, Heat, Casino, La Haine, etc...
La Haine is such an underrated movie. It’s so underrated that I had never even heard of it until this comment.
@@johnmorris8444 😂
90's in general were a phenomenal decade for movies...
@@fobusas it really was. Every year had a bunch of all time classics. 2000s were real hit of miss. Would have a great year sandwiched between 2 years where there wasn’t any film worth remembering.
@@fobusas 1994 was the strongest of that decade: Shawshank Redemption, Pulp Fiction, Forrest Gump, Lion King, Leon: The Professional, Natural Born Killers, Ed Wood, Speed, True Lies, The Crow, Interview with the Vampire, Drunken Master 2, The Mask, Stargate, Legends of the Fall, Heavenly Creatures, Fist of Legend, Clear and Present Danger, Maverick, Clerks, Dumb & Dumber, etc...
"My stomach was kind of hurting last night and I was going to sit down and watch the movie, and he was like 'You should... You should wait until your stomach feels better'."
Tyler's a keeper. A lot of guys I know would've thrown their GF/wife to the wolves with Seven. Lol.
yeah just wait till AFTER they're married XD
How about a lot of "people" would throw their "partner" to the wolves? I'm someone's wife and this is my favourite movie. Gender has F all to do with it, surely?
@@soshegames2084 It has everything to do with it... Congrats on this being your favorite movie. I wasn't talking about you. I was talking about Tyler, Nat, and people I personally know. Which is where the "a lot of guys I know" came from. I don't personally know you, and literally do not know a single woman who would list this as their favorite movie.
My own wife has anxiety. I would not even allow her to watch this movie by herself, because she would have a literal panic attack.
@@soshegames2084 obvious bait is obvious lol
@@deanharstad5404 maybe it is bait, but there are actually people online who would be that anal about something like this enough to complain about it...
I think the metronome is meant to give Sommerset a sense of order. He's constantly living in chaos, and the only way he can sleep is a reminder that order exists. That's part of why it's so gut-wrenching when he throws it--it's like he's giving up on the idea that order is attainable.
It is also used to distract him from the noise of the city. You'll notice that you can hear all sorts of background/city noises on his apt. The metronome helps him focus and push out the city.
Perhaps the metronome also represents the ticking down to Sommerset's retirement (along with the name Sommerset: summer set/sunset). He gets fed up and throws it away when he realizes he's too engaged with the case (and ultimately, the job) that he doesn't get to choose when it's over.
I think a metronome is just cheaper than a grandfather clock and takes up less space.
YES!!!!!!!!!
All of you are wrong. The metronome is to desensitise Sommerset to the sound of a ticking time bomb in case he has to defuse a real life bomb. A lot of old detectives did this so they could think straight when defusing bombs.
Fincher actually planned to show Gwyneth Paltrow's head but Brad Pitt argued it would be more effective not to reveal it, and he was right. But that wasn't the end of the story for Paltrow's head prop, as it was later repurposed for the film Contagion.
Honestly, I think John Doe outright saying that he "took her pretty little head" was unnecessary. Just like the Lust scene, we can put the pieces together, and NOT saying it further justifies Mills saying, "What's in the box?" I understand that the implication is that he's in shock and doesn't want to believe it, but it still seems slightly silly that he'd ask to see after being told what's in there.
mmhmm...Pitt is an great actor and he clearly knows a lot about film making if this was his call. It created one of the most memorable scenes in Psychological/Suspense/Thriller movie history
Source??
@@kylespeirs6510 Google is your friend. Search string = fincher paltrow head contagion
I just figured out that the blood on Kevin spacey's shirt in the police station was from Gwyneth Paltrows beheading.
I’ll never forget my jaw droppping straight to the ground when I realized what was in the box. Such a great movie.
What I find so amazing about the David - John Doe relationship, is how integral David was to John Doe's plan. He required a detective he can look up to, that he could admire, that's not Somerset. So think about the fact John Doe had been planning this from the year to the day, and David was just recently transferred. Almost makes me wonder if John Doe had something to do with his transfer...
Honestly, that part felt a bit contrived, brilliant plot device but a bit unlikely
John Doe didn't plan the ending we see until his apartment was discovered. Then he had to change his plans. That's why Pride was far more rushed and simplistic, compared to the other murders.
As some of the comment replies (and Fincher himself) have stated, it wasn't originally part of John Doe's plan to have David as the Avatar of Wrath. It's actually a big theme of the film that he hadn't FOUND Wrath yet, but found it in David, especially after David tried to chase him down so vehemently. He knew he had then found his Wrath, and adjusted his plans accordingly (and creepily). Also, Who Dey
I was chuckling nervously when she thought the box was a bomb I literally had my hands on my face and was like "oh no"
Also the cops didn’t know the sloth victim was a real guy in makeup they thought it was a dummy so their reactions were very real
You should put Memento on your list too.
That's a great Christopher Nolan early work.
Remember Sammy Jankins?
It is on my list! :)
@@NatalieGoldReacts the prestige is the most underrated Chris Nolan mind fuck of a movie ever!
@Natalie Gold … Mentioning Nolan movies.. You should really check out ‘Insomnia’ with Al Pacino… Really good movie as well.. Also an underrated movie in my opinion..
@@DeppBaleFan insomnia is a great criminal case thriller but gets ignored because it doesn't have your typical Nolan type mindfuckery. It's sadly underappreciated
I remember seeing this when it came out. I was in a collage theater with a bunch of other college freshmen. Besides the movie I remember the reaction of the audience. An audience of teenagers everyone were dead silent. We left the theater and walked back to our dorms in dead silence. I have always thought of this movie as the emotional opposite of The Shawshank Redemption. That movie leaves you on as much of an emotional high as Seven leaves you low. Both great movies.
I saw this movie in the theater when I was about 20 years old. It was the nail in the coffin of my innocence. I remember being truly disturbed and upset that someone could think of this to write the screenplay. I was mad that a person put this out in the world. Now, as a 40 something, I am sadly no longer shocked, but miss my life pre-Seven.
Wow man, shouldn't let movies get to you so much. I understand though. But like I loved those crazy 80's movie and used to just think how cool it would be to be apart of the effects like the thing or return of the living dead, etc.
I saw the Exorcist in the theatre when I was in high school, and it's still the scariest thing I've ever seen. We're talking pure evil
@@recoveringsoul755 Now, watching the exorcist is damn near comical, the only yikes moment was when she stabbed herself with the cross and smeared her blood on her mom.
@@Fabian...... yeah that was terrifying she violated herself with the cross, I was also scared when the furniture was moving and about to crush the guy. We're talking about the devil here, like, the DEVIL pure evil itself
@@Fabian...... after the exorcist, my best friend would be sitting in front of me watching TV, and every now and then she would mechanically begin to swivel her head around grinning maniacally at me. Stop that Barbara!!
This reaction from you Nat was incredible because you really didn't know what you were getting yourself into. Tyler definitely gave you the best advice Nat 😊
Could he be the TYLER DURDEN? ;) he just wants chaos
She makes the common mistake...
Thinking people are Killed FOR their sins, instead of BY their sins.
Ty always has my back haha
She said in the intro that she was warned several times. Hence, she had some idea of what she was getting into.
The metronome was Somerset's way to drown out the noises and violence of the city so that he could get some sleep. Mills eventually really gets to him and him throwing the metronome was him literally not being able to allow himself to drown out and ignore the noise of the world around him anymore.
His answer in the end that he will be around also confirms that he won't retire, but keep fighting the good fight and try to do what he can to be a force for good in the world, because he can't give in to the apathy anymore.
I love how, thanks to this film, you can just scream "what's in the box???!!" at people and they instantly know 😂
I saw this movie on opening weekend, I was 21 years old, went to the theater by myself... It was honestly kind of traumatizing, but at the same time I absolutely loved it. Really stuck with me all these decades.
beyond glad you watched this. this movie left me shocked and on edge after watching it. love the channel !!!!
I can't believe you didn't watch the first 6 movies before this! 😁
You know you said that you're glad we never actually see the head in the box, Nat? Fincher tells the story of how a very angry woman confronted him after being told that he was the director of Se7en. She was furious that Fincher had had the gall to show Gwyneth Paltrow's head in the box, and no matter how much he tried to convince her that you never see it onscreen, she wouldn't believe him. As far as she was concerned, she's seen the head and it was just unforgivable. He puts it down to the power of suggestion!
And speaking of the ending, apparently the studio wanted a happier or at least a less-dark finale, which the writer provided (I think it involved Somerset shooting Doe, to prevent Mills becoming a killer). However, as the legend goes, by accident Brad Pitt was given an earlier version of the script when he was up for the role, and upon finding out about the rewrite, refused to film anything but the ending he'd read. I think he was right to do so - any other ending would've invalidated the overall message of the film.
Mandela Effect. Maybe in a parallel universe you can see the head...
In retrospect, I always think there was a flash of something, like a couple inserted frames- but I haven't seen this movie in ages.
@@tomlewis4205 Her face is flashed right before Mills kills Doe, you can see it in Nat's video above for a split second. She's lit up and ghostly white.
@@CharlieSoze wow, you're right. I hadn't seen that before. Not her dead head but you can see how someone might have that image attached to the box.
@@tomlewis4205 26:52 - it's a very quick flash of her face, right before Mills pulls the trigger (looks like it was from Mills' point of view of her lying in bed beside him).
This movie so very dark but so well done! I remember seeing it in the theatre when it was released, the entire audience left in stunned silence. It's a brilliant film and I haven't seen it since, you absolutely appreciated it for what it is! I'm more of a feel good movie kinda person but I really enjoyed how suspenseful this film was, glad you shared it with us!
This is an absolute masterpiece in cinematography! One of my favorite suspense film that is totally re-watchable even after you know the ending.
One of my favorite theories is that this movie is set in a Gotham pre batman. For some reason the aesthetic, the general feeling of the city, the characters, this could easily be Gotham (specially since we never get the name of the city)
After The Batman I also thought about it
That actually does make alot of sense now that I think about it. Interesting.
Wow. I love this theory.
To add to the theory (which I fully subscribe to) is that Mills becomes the Joker. This snaps him and he chooses to laugh through the pain.
Wasn't there a sign in the pizza parlor that said "New York Pizza"? Though I know it's supposed to be a general "city with no name". Just wondering if that one sign was a mistake?
The scene with Pitt, Freeman, and Spacy is one of my all-time favorite scenes. The dialog is brilliant and the interaction between the three of them is outstanding. The only scene I might like better is A Few Good Men with Cruise and Nicholson in the courtroom.
Yeah, except you have to look at Kevin Spacey which kind of ruins it
Another good one is the Al Pacino/Robert de Niro diner scene in Heat.
@@werdle92 I know. At this time, he was considered a top-tier actor. But, given the fact that his character is completely psychotic... it kinda works.😂
@@kevinschultz6091 Good call
@@werdle92 You can be a complete asshole in private life and still be a good actor.
This movie was so creepy at the theater. It was so well made and disturbing. Everything about it was very original. I remember walking out of the theater in awe and totally creeped out at the same time. The title sequence of this film was very original as well and I think it had a big influence on how they were approached thereafter. Such a great film.
Fincher at his absolute best.
Pitt, Freeman and Spacey crush it.
And you end up crushed as well, and a piece of your faith in Humanity along with it.
Powerful film, a timeless classic.
Great reaction Natalie 😘
“The world is a fine place.. and it’s worth fighting for.
I agree with the second part.”
That line gets me every time because of how depressingly true it is...
That's how I feel about that line too.
Saw this in the theaters with my brother and sister, it freaked me out!
This was my first R Rated movie!
The scene where they find the guy, the victim, "Sloth," was on Bravo's 100 Scariest Movie Moments.
Oh wow. First R rated film O.O
Mine was The Last Samurai. Would be cool to know Nat's
The scariest moment was the ending for me, followed by the guy describing the Lust murder and the photo of that... thing, but the Sloth victim was a pretty decent jump scare.
@@brendanfoehr5086 The lust murder scene literally made my skin crawl. The rest of the movie was disturbing and creepy, but that scene is next level.
You've GOT to watch The Batman when its available, it pays a lot of homage to Se7en and noir movies in general, and ends on a much more optimistic note.
This movie should have been nominated for Best Picture. It was so well filmed and the story just pulled you in. This was one of the few movies in which the bad guy actually wins and that's what makes this movie stand out.
One of the best, most disturbing movies ever made.
You need to watch American History X as well.
I second this. American History X is a must watch
I'd recommend Hannibal (TV Series).
I just commented the same thing before seeing your comment 😂
@@raimundkeller6115 oh gosh yeah for sure
American History X is a rough movie to sit through. But excellently made with some great actors.
Have you watched 'Zodiac' yet? If not, it's another David Fincher thriller classic that's well worth watching.
Probably his best movie ever. AMAZING!
Great request! A perfect movie. One of my favorites.
That and Gone Girl. Both are really good
I have not, but it's on my list now! :)
this
The influence of Se7en cannot be overstated. You can see it’s imprints to this day in the art direction of literally every crime procedural on tv, every crime thriller in theaters. You can see its influence in opening credits presentation and motion design. It’s such a great film, even an important film (for genre filmmaking).
And it had good gun handling because Fincher had real LAPD officers on set to help with gun safety
Which is what more directors should be doing when it comes to firearms with actors. I don't know why Alec Baldwin messed up so badly
"Anyone who spends a significant amount of time with me finds me disagreeable"
I am gonna keep that one in my back pocket, as it applies to me.
Anyone asks a (stupid) question as to my marital status, I'm whipping that one out.
I remember seeing this in the theater when it came out. One of the things that struck me at the time isn't just that it rains constantly (until the end), but how it looks like "dirty" rain.
I don't know if this has been mentioned yet. In the scene where the police find the "Sloth" victim in the bed the actors were told that it was a mannequin in the bed. So when the person in bed coughed the actors' startled reaction was genuine.
Working in the motion picture industry, I don't believe that for one second.
@@firstenforemost why not? The Alien chestburster scene was not broadcast to the cast, except for the guy who was carrying the alien. So the reaction was absolute horror.
100% true
@@BessieRiggs Except that it's not true either. The chestburster scene was in the script. What the cast didn't know was how much fake blood would be sprayed around. Veronica Cartwright especially since she caught a jet of fake blood right in her face.
@@firstenforemost You wouldn't even have to work in the industry to know all these stories are made up.
You did a really excellent job picking up clues and predicting what was going to happen! I always enjoy your reactions. Keep up the good work!
On the metronome: you need to notice what sounds it covers up. For Somerset, focusing on the metronome drowns out the city's sounds of crime/shouting/screaming. Ultimately it shows how he was being just as apathetic as the city's residents he was complaining about to Mills. Which is why Mills' criticism of his defeatism (at the bar) leads to Somerset angrily throwing the metronome: Somerset was being part of the problem (or so he felt).
'Zodiac' (2007) is another one of David Fincher's masterpieces. It's based on the real-life Zodiac Killer murders from the 70s.
Jake Gyllenhaal, Mark Ruffalo and Robert Downey Jr. are the main actors. Highly recommend it.
27 years later and still for me, Seven is the darkest movie I've ever seen.
Try titane lol
Oldboy is pretty good too
Try irreverible, titane, oldboy, salo, requiem for a dream
The darkest "movie" I've ever seen was Episode 3 in Season 8 of GoT.😂
Cannibal Holocaust
Me and some buddies went into this movie completely blind when it was released. This was the movie that first awakened me to the power of cinema. We had never really seen anything like this and the shock and stun from the audience at the end of this movie were just palpable. It is one of my favorite movies which is surprising to say with how dark it is but it had a lasting impact on me and really fostered my love of cinema.
Thanks for doing this one, I appreciate the diversity and variety with your reactions. I was all in with this movie during my first viewing. My heart just aches for Mills and his wife while Sumerset (sp) lives on in purgatory.
I coincidentally went on a binge last few days of watching Seven, Usual Suspects, LA Confidential, Enemy of the State, Law Abiding Citizen, Man on Fire, The Equaliser & The Gentlemen.
Probably because after seeing the Batman; I wanted to watch all these. Loved them all.
Damn... How do you manage to binge so many movies? What's the trick? I have to take a break after every 25 minutes!
Interesting that you included "Enemy of the STATE" I really enjoyed that movie with Will Smith and Gene Hackman a great meshing of these two. I hope that Natalie will react to it.
@@constantdeveloper honestly I think i have some form of ADHD.
I watched 3 of these movies each simultaneously 😂
For 15-20 minutes I’ll watch one & then go to the other & then to the 3rd & then do something else & then an hour later start again.
It started with Man on Fire; loved it so I wanted to watch similar mid budget action crime thrillers.
Then followed the recommendation guide at Netflix & Amazon Prime.
No Zodiac?
@@andothersuchnonsense2685 hopefully this weekend.
Zodiac & bunch of Denzel movies.
One of Brad's most underrated roles. A great movie. Watching you react, as always, is classic.
Funny that reacting to the 7 deadly sins she looks a bit like the virgin Mary with with the white headphones and blue chair looking like a vail of purity.
Underrated? Ive never meet anyone that dont hold this movie in there top 50 movies of all time and brads top 3.
This was the film that made me realize the man CAN act. He was brilliant in this, especially at the end.
@@STNeish for me it was Interview with the Vampire, I saw it in the movies in 94 when I was 12, was terrified of tom cruse and felt empati for Brad Pitt and Kirsten Dunst.
Brad was incredible in 12 Monkeys too.
"Wanting people to listen, you can't just tap them on the shoulder anymore. You have to hit them with a sledgehammer, and then you'll notice you've got their strict attention."
*-John Doe ( **_Seven_** )*
idk why but I feel so much peace and comfort watching your videos! Such a safe place, thanks for your work
"What's in the box?"
"Just a bunch of Playboy magazines"
So amazing to think that both this film and The Usual Suspects both came out in 1995. Seems like a lifetime ago and I haven't seen either since initially watching them in 1996 and we are closely approaching 30 years since they were made. Time flies.!!
I enjoyed your reaction. As a person who once looked down on reaction content, because I love movies so much I eventually became fond of watching movie reactions along with certain reactors. You have a lot of empathy for characters and you're able to emotionally invest along with being very intelligent and noticing when the plot/writing is failing or succeeding. I know there may be a certain pressure to enjoy every movie because it is something that people voted for or it is someone's favorite movie, but it's truly your empathy paired with your intelligence and ability to recognize elements that work/don't work at times that makes them top notch for me. And while editing is under appreciated in general as the silent glue that holds good videos together... Cameron's work doesn't get nearly the recognition it deserves so cheers to you as well good sir.
Great thrill-horror. I watched it once, recommended it hundreds of times, but never watched it again. It unbalanced my world view for a week. Even now “What’s in the box?” Brings it all home decades later. Classic!
The real magic of hollywood. Moments like that.
I had heard the “what’s in the box” quote and jokes for so long and never knew it was from a movie. I watched a South Park episode with my husband and one of the characters said it and I asked what the hell is with that saying and so my husband showed me the movie and maaaaan I was not expecting that at all!
Such an excellent movie! David Fincher made another great movie shortly after this called The Game. It's a pretty cool film.👍🤘
This is why clips of "what's in the box"from this film, make so many appearances in an internet memes. It is a masterclass in film making and cinematography which massively adds to the disturbing feelings. Thank you, once again for your great reaction, I hope that you managed to get to sleep ok after watching it.
On of the greatest movies of all time. I just love this atmosphere. David Fincher is a genius. Definately not a movie for everyone, but everyone should watch it anyway. :)
Yay, it's Fincher time! I recommend watching another mind-twisting, yet more slowly paced film by him, The Game with Michael Douglas and Sean Penn.
I always felt that knowing what had happened without seeing it happen made it much more powerful because your mind fills in the blanks
Yay finally!!!! I was one of the ones that suggested it. Thanks Natalie 🌟🌟
Love this movie. It's dark and and depressing but so well written and so well made.
New here so I'm not sure if you've seen it, but 'The Game', also directed by Fincher, would be a good one to watch for you channel.
One of my most favorite movies, and to me, this showcases Brad's acting and is one helluva flick! Morgan gives his greatest performance in his incredible career as well. Se7en is THE BEST psychological thriller ever made.
You are the only reason that I watched this again. I saw it years ago and decided that I wouldn’t watch it again. But you’re such an intelligent and interesting person that I couldn’t keep myself from watching along with you.
Thank you for the entertainment.
Stay golden!
No one is ever the same after watching Seven! I watched it with a group of friends in 1996 and we all had nightmares for a month!
No jury would convict him for killing John Doe, but he'll never work in law enforcement ever again. Everything that he defined himself by is gone and in a very real sense he died in that moment as well.
No he became something more. He became an outcast. He became the hero Gotham needs, but not the hero it deserves.
Honestly, one of the best, visceral moments in cinema & excellent work by Brad Pitt.
@@HoshijiroTS336 nope. Mills became the Joker, not Batman. Batman is one, Bruce Wayne. Joker is... a wildcard
@@edwardtuoix What!? 😲 Batman is Bruce Wayne. No way. Oh yea, sure he is. Next thing you'll be telling me that Clark Kent is Superman.
@@HoshijiroTS336 um, no. Superman is Shaquille O'Brien... or is it Conan O'Neal? All those micks look alike to me
For a more “lighter” David Fincher/Brad Pitt film you should definitely check out “The curious case of Benjamin Button” with Brad Pitt and Cate Blanchett. Such a wonderful movie that makes you really think about life and it’s beauty.
This movie is definitely in my top 10 of all time. Love your reaction too!! First time I saw this movie was on my computer with full volume. Sloth scared the crap out of me. Keep your reactions coming!! Just subbed.
I was crying right along with you 🥺 WHATS IN THE BOX! Stuck in my head ever since I seen it when it first came .
This film is so massively disturbing because of the distinct possibility that this could occur today.
A fun side note, or perhaps the releasing of the sin pride by Kevin Spacey is that he refused top billing for Seven to avoid giving away the killer's identity in the opening credits. The producers offered him top billing, but he didn't want to spoil the viewers
So weird, being old it's still odd when you realize there's so many movies younger people haven't seen yet (I know, duh right). Fun to watch people watch the good ones. When you said she was "the one beacon of hope in humanity in the movie" I was surprised that I got a little emotional because I knew what was to come. Saw it in the theater and the reactions were fantastic. Someone actually screamed when they figured out what was in the box. Excellent movie. Watch 8mm, it was around the same time it was written by the same guy. Not as well directed but worth the watch and has a similar vibe. Great reaction.
I dislike 8mm, it's seedy and the movie, opposed to Se7en, seems to revel in it a bit too much, very unpleasant and disturbing.
In the Sloth scene the director didn’t tell the actors that the guy in the bed wasn’t actually dead. They thought it was a prop made for the scene so when he coughs the actors were freaking out for real.
I read somewhere that the reason he could walk into the police station like that was because he was so clean cut & put together; cops didn't know who he was. Taxi driver would take someone like him to the police station no questions asked as well. He knew when Mills and Somerset would be back because he stalked them throughout the entire movie. Such a great performance by Kevin Spacey. You can hear his rage when he's before them and he can't even get their attention enough to turn himself in to them.
This really is one of the best crime drama's of the modern age. And, one of the few movies where the antagonist wins. Overall everything was crafted so disturbingly perfect, its sick to even think if there are anybody out there in the world like John Doe.
"The world is a fine place, and worth fighting for. I agree with the second part" Such a beautiful and sadly true line. It is worth fighting for this world, but it is not a fine place at all.
I'm glad you got to experience this movie, Nat.
Yeeeesss!!! What’s in the box 📦
Sup Natalie, love yo reactions and whoever is doing yo editing shoutout to them too. SUPPORT💯
I have waited so much for you watch this one!!!!! GREAT!!!
That #girlboss moment had me LOLing. As much as I love Nat’s reactions, I LOVE the editing choices on this channel. 😂🤓
The ending of this movie wasn't actually the original ending, interestingly enough. Their first storyboard (which I think you can find online) had Morgan Freeman's character shooting the murderer before Brad Pitt's could, then getting arrested for it. He "retires" and Brad Pitt can still possibly have a life, despite his wife's murder.
You can actually see it. Test audiences insisted that they see Brad Pitt's character kill him. I thought the original ending was much more clever since they made a point to have Morgan Freeman's character mention early in the film that he had never fired his gun in the job and was about to retire.
Of course, now I can't find it online anywhere and doubt that I actually saw it myself, but probably the storyboard and my old brain has convinced me I actually saw that ending.
@@afoolandhiscameras7658 it's bonus content on one of the dvd / blu ray releases
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I love that you really cover everything! 😁
Just found your channel and watched a couple of vids, pretty cool reactions, interacions, etc. I love the fact that they hid that Kevin Spacey was in the movie. Seven is one of my fav movies of all time, truly a masterpiece.
The goriest, most violent movie that hardly has any gore or violence.
i totally agree whit you.....the most violent movie without real violent scenes
This one's a doozy. David Fincher has a really great and pretty dark filmography. He also did Fight Club with Brad Pitt, and many years later they worked again on The Curious Case of Benjamin Button. That's an excellent and fairly sad film. Pitt is fantastic in it.
Yeah, but he also did that fun rom-com Gone Girl.
also the social network, mindhunters on netflix, he was also a huge part of love death robots, panic room and gone girl are great too
Zodiac is my favorite Fincher film. Some people complain it's too slow and long, but I get lost in the brooding atmosphere. As a Bay Area native, I love how 70s era San Francisco is brought to life. Pre-Marvel Robert Downey Jr and Mark Ruffalo, and Jake Gyllenhaal with a great portrayal of obsession. One of the most diligent 'based on true events' movies ever.
@@jackstrawful - I could watch Zodiac anytime. I'm fascinated by crime stories anyhow, but the atmosphere of that movie is really engrossing.
They referenced the ending to this in Borderlands 2. At a point in the game, you’re in a desert area and you start opening boxes and if you open a certain one it has a skull inside. Then the villain calls you and says “OHHH, WHATS IN THE BOX?!?!”
One of my favorite movies ever! Natalie, you must do a poll for sure: What would you do at the end???
This movie was so good that the author was embarrassed by his own writing
umm...What? Care to explain?
@Natalie Gold
If you haven't seen it. Watch Coherence
Id love to see your reaction 😉
I’m so grateful you saw this film Natalie! What I’m curious to know though, is if you recognized the “WHAT’S IN THE BOX?!?!” quote when Mills was screaming it…. There’s been so many pop-culture references to that seen, and I was wondering if you were like… “this is where that was from…?”
Also, now I’m curious to know your thoughts of the new Batman movie after seeing this film. Great channel!!!
You can always partner with a mystery box service as a sponsor, they're always leaving people inquiring on the contents of the package. What a scary twist though right, it's like "AAAH! Kevin spacey's in this movie"
One of those really great movies I will never, ever watch again or ever recommend. I don't know why people think it's great to see horrible things they can't ever unsee as a means of feeling joy. Didn't know what I as getting. Sorry, Nat.
It’s not about…..watching horrible things as a means to experience “joy.” It’s a morality tale. Tragic morality tales have been pillars of great, even important story telling since….well…. forever. This movie at its core pits a bright eyed, new to the city idealistic, optimistic protagonist, against a long in the tooth detective, who knows the city and is a rational, pessimistic protagonist. It’s about confronting the horror’s of the world while still trying to maintain a sense of optimism.
Outside of the story, the direction, the performances, the screenplay, (which are all magnificent) in terms of it being graphic or “horrible,” it isn’t torture porn like the Saw movies. Most of it is left up to the viewers imagination, which is 100 times more effective. It’s the actors response to the crime scene’s that are the most emotional devastating, (lust is a perfect example).
This isn’t a film about horrible things happening for peoples entertainment. It’s a meticulously crafted examination of morality, it’s boundaries, and that even the best of us can be pushed to act outside those moral boundaries.
That’s why 25 years (or so) later people are still absolutely entranced by this amazing film.
Entertainment does not equal joy. Joy is a form of entertainment. For example, I don't feel "joy" through most of Nolan's films, but they're all super entertaining.
Easily one of the greatest movies of all time. Shows/tells you just enough to let your mind do all the twisted work, making it all the more dark.
I’ve seen some really have their stomachs turned by the prostitute murder, the metal imagery it conjures is truly horrific and the guy who plays the part of the forced killer is superb, he truly seems utterly destroyed by the experience.
A girl I was dating was *livid* when I told her I thought this was a good movie. It was the lust murder that got to her. Looking back, I realize part of the reason it bothered her so much was that she was identifying with the sin for which she felt most guilty.
You know you've got a really good horror/trhiller film on your hands when they aren't showing you stuff. Far too many go for the shock factor... which can be pretty damn powerful. But letting your imagination run wild... that sticks with you LONG after the movie is over. Se7en walks that fine line like a tightrope walker. That lust killing is the one that undid me. Show you the weapon and let you figure out what it would have done when used as intended. It's gruesome in a truly disturbing way and brilliant filmmaking at the same time.
@@mycroft16 No picture can be more horrifying than what one's imagination can paint
That's why the horror movies where u never see the ghost work better than most others
@@mycroft16 Absolutely, shocks and jump scares are fun in the moments the frames flash before your eyes, but things like Se7en or Alien where the true horror is left to fester as an image in your mind are exponentially more powerful.
Omgoodness 😳!! Couldn't wait for her reaction to this!
One of my all time favorite movies thanks to the cast. It's like a modern day Jack the Ripper- whodunnit. "He's the funniest guy I've ever met." Says, sooooo much about Pitt's character, and his outcome. A very overlooked quote.
Hey natalie, I think you would love "the witcher", its a fantasy show on netflix - its only 2 seasons so far
its like game of thrones, but more monsters
Fellow Natalie here to say fiiiirst
Great video! Fun to watch your reactions. I think it was raining in every scene except for the last one. A very effective choice...
Finally............you have got round to watching this
i got to see this at the cinema when it was released and it was unlike any film my friends and i had seen at the time.
A real masterpiece of a film from start to finish
Ernest Hemingway once wrote, ‘The world is a fine place and worth fighting for.’
I agree with the second part.
One of my favourite bits of film trivia comes from this film:
The Seven Deadly Sins were famously defined by Dante Alighieri in "Dante's Inferno". In the story Dante goes through the circles of hell and in each of them it rains except for the last circle where the Devil resides.
It rains all the way through Se7en, but when the "Devil" of the film reveals himself, it doesn't rain for the rest of the film.
A note on them never turning the lights on: they're looking at these scenes before the crime techs have been through them, which means they have to preserve the possibility of evidence, and light switches tend to be an extremely valuable source of fingerprints: smooth plastic or metal that's likely to be pressed by a fingertip basically every day. So they can't touch them and have to do their work by torch instead.
I remember recommending this on another video :3 excited to see how it goes
It's so tragic that Kevin Spacey was what he was in real life, because he was a really great actor...just so devastating to have people you once looked up to to be revealed for what they are.