Sonic Frontiers Is Mid

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  • Опубликовано: 20 ноя 2022
  • UH OH, I EXPRESSED MY OPINION! D:
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    Music used in order:
    Conkers Bad Fur day - Windy co.
    Sonic Lost World - Juice Archipelago
    The Legend Of Zelda Breath Of The Wild - Riding (day)
    Sonic Unleashed - Apotos (day)
    Sonic Frontiers - Ares Island theme
    Sonic Frontiers - Fishing with big
    Sonic Unleashed - Spagonia (day)
    Sonic Forces - Luminous forest
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  • @Adrian-hj7ih
    @Adrian-hj7ih Год назад +1069

    I think the best part for me is seeing people being more constructive about the game's problems than just shiting on it, it's cool to see that people liked it and want to see things going foward.

    • @Adrian-hj7ih
      @Adrian-hj7ih Год назад +4

      @Tax Evasion / OG Agent 4 Sonic Origins?

    • @imdraculaspet9550
      @imdraculaspet9550 Год назад +26

      Unless you're dunkey snsmsnsnsn

    • @bubbleeater7192
      @bubbleeater7192 Год назад +1

      @@Adrian-hj7ih I'm sorry what did he say? The comment got yeeted and deleted

    • @Adrian-hj7ih
      @Adrian-hj7ih Год назад +1

      @@bubbleeater7192 Oh I don't remember but he mentioned the previous Sonic game released this year

    • @Adrian-hj7ih
      @Adrian-hj7ih Год назад +4

      @Tax Evasion / OG Agent 4 Ok now I get, fans were right to shit on this one LOL. Sega should handle their IP in the same way Nintendo handles Mario(for the most part...) and Sonic Frontiers apparently breaks this cycle of rushed games.

  • @wardenwiththedrip6893
    @wardenwiththedrip6893 Год назад +1819

    A half decent sonic title is like the messia's second coming for us sonic fans. So i am very happy.

    • @neaosmt1562
      @neaosmt1562 Год назад +38

      This is very true this is one of the few times we get a w

    • @majingamin
      @majingamin Год назад +9

      L

    • @apersoniguess_
      @apersoniguess_ Год назад +20

      @@majingamin ok

    • @77wolfblade
      @77wolfblade Год назад +19

      I thought Sonic Mania was a good game.

    • @Sydney_Angelyt
      @Sydney_Angelyt Год назад +10

      @@77wolfblade that's the only good game since 2011-2012

  • @Fabled_Adventure_Girl_Kanna
    @Fabled_Adventure_Girl_Kanna Год назад +1001

    Honestly Sonic Frontiers feels more of a "landing on their feet" so they can start to make something better. Especially evident by the way they bring up so many pre-colors stuff and fleshing out character personalities that they used to have. Frontiers is good enough, positive experience 7/10 (because I enjoyed cyber space a bit more and didn't mind the story being kinda weak)

    • @macjohniezuhaeus316
      @macjohniezuhaeus316 Год назад +47

      Yeah I feel like the whole games goal was to do three things
      1. Make a good game play style that MOSTLY everyone likes (it doesn't have to be the best thing ever it just has to work) so they can later work on it and improve
      2. Show people coming to the Sonic series from the movies and new audiences that "hey look at all these things we can do in this game you might wan't to stay here"
      3. Clear up the Sonic lore. Maybe its so the stories can get better, maybe it so something like Ken Penders dosen't happen again.

    • @vingadivo8707
      @vingadivo8707 Год назад +17

      Yeah man this is going to be a "step on the right direction" Just like pokemon Arceus right? Oh wait scarlet and violet sucks because these huge companies never learn.

    • @genyakozlov1316
      @genyakozlov1316 Год назад +4

      @@vingadivo8707 Please tell me you aren't one of the people who was defending Cyberpunk 2077 at launch. That game is not seen as a "travesty" now despite bricking consoles, so why does Pokemon?

    • @vingadivo8707
      @vingadivo8707 Год назад +6

      @@genyakozlov1316 cyberpunk release was thrash and fixing it over a year later does not make it scamming players okay, Just because cyberpunk also did it doesn't make pokemon's bullshit any better. Also you're on some high level cope if you think gamefreak is gonna fix even 30% of the bugs, they are probably already chrunching to release the next rushed game.

    • @bizzledrizzle_
      @bizzledrizzle_ Год назад +11

      Sonic Team would have loved to do better on this game but sega didn’t give ‘em the time or the budget to do so

  • @dummyfrompvz3131
    @dummyfrompvz3131 Год назад +624

    He went fast, I consider that a step in the right direction

    • @brickabang
      @brickabang Год назад +5

      Not the right direction when accidentally hitting a bounce pad.

    • @decas5505
      @decas5505 Год назад +16

      You mean the game is playable? 10/10 game

    • @veronicabermudez4802
      @veronicabermudez4802 Год назад

      a quick one at that

    • @stellarknight04
      @stellarknight04 Год назад

      But shouldn't games advance forward???

    • @pafoneto1275
      @pafoneto1275 Год назад

      Smartest sonic fan:

  • @imunoriginalokay4400
    @imunoriginalokay4400 Год назад +385

    But then sonic said, "this is my new frontier" 10/10 writing 🔥

    • @giddyspiderboy
      @giddyspiderboy Год назад +55

      Remember when sonic frontiered? That was the moment in sonic frontiers

    • @bigboykenob2244
      @bigboykenob2244 Год назад +16

      Then sonic said “its frontiering time” and frontiered all over the enemies

    • @bigboykenob2244
      @bigboykenob2244 Год назад +11

      Then sonic said “its frontiering time” and frontiered all over the enemies

    • @nottoofast
      @nottoofast Год назад +8

      My favorite moment of the game was when Sonic said "Consider this your bad Frontiers!"

    • @The_MikeM
      @The_MikeM Год назад +3

      Bravo Vince

  • @loganharris7801
    @loganharris7801 Год назад +395

    My biggest nitpick is the world design. There's so many random structures with no rhyme or reason other than for sonic to traverse them. They look unnatural, like their placement was an afterthought to the environment. It feels especially dumb after I've played masterpieces like BOTW and Metroid Dread, which both can really make the world feel alive and cohesive.

    • @-originalLemon-
      @-originalLemon- Год назад +3

      Sonic 1 and sonic 2 were the best

    • @derple8524
      @derple8524 Год назад +42

      It's similar like FNAF Security Breach where the developers made the map first thinking it looked cool but last minute said, "OH SHIT, WE FORGOT TO MAKE THE GAME!!!" so that's why nothing feel cohesive in both these games cause instead of making stuff for the character to do, they made a pretty map

    • @ReelSucks
      @ReelSucks Год назад +11

      tbh i felt like they addressed that in one of the dialogues, saying that the land looked unnatural and lonely

    • @technicolormischief-maker5683
      @technicolormischief-maker5683 Год назад +7

      The hyperrealistic art design is a problem, but the placement of the grind rails and other such structures should stay in my opinion. Maybe a little more cohesive, but I like that the world wears its gaminess on its sleeve in a sea of immersion-first open world titles and think future Sonic games should lean further into that.
      That said, I didn’t play the game myself, so maybe you can take that opinion with a grain of salt. The friends I watched finish the game seem to agree with me though.

    • @Ampharosite
      @Ampharosite Год назад +6

      In what world is BOTW a masterpiece?

  • @exotic1405
    @exotic1405 Год назад +471

    The sonic franchise is like the guy who puts all his skill points in charisma

    • @bubbleeater7192
      @bubbleeater7192 Год назад +51

      Can't do anything but somehow smoothtalk my way out of a shit game for the 50th time, SOMEHOW.

    • @Eldoofus
      @Eldoofus Год назад +27

      I feel ashamed of never reaching that conclusion as a fan of the series.

    • @rustedcrabtm6438
      @rustedcrabtm6438 Год назад +8

      Unlike reigen arataka who also did that but had 10x as many skill points

    • @elisabethsun7059
      @elisabethsun7059 Год назад +1

      @@Eldoofus same-

    • @Squigga2
      @Squigga2 11 месяцев назад +1

      You Sonic fans put the bar too low,I mean balan wonderworld had the same gimmick yet it was hated(for great and obvious reasons)by almost everyone,it was just a sonic game without the speed lol

  • @BiggiecheeseAKAgod
    @BiggiecheeseAKAgod Год назад +377

    A sonic game that doesn't completely suck ass is honestly a win in my opinion.

    • @layonyatsu7203
      @layonyatsu7203 Год назад +39

      kinda sad but it's better than nothing

    • @2011-X
      @2011-X Год назад +15

      and sonic finally uses hes eyebrows for emotions after a decade at this point

    • @wishbushwashbosh6443
      @wishbushwashbosh6443 Год назад +10

      So is lost world a W for you?

    • @kha0ticdud3
      @kha0ticdud3 Год назад +1

      @@2011-X sonic has eyebrows?

    • @victorvirgili4447
      @victorvirgili4447 Год назад

      @@wishbushwashbosh64431-If you’re talking about the gacha Touhou game it’s called Lost Word
      2-Touhou had been nothing but bangers until then so not a W

  • @potatoboy6094
    @potatoboy6094 Год назад +52

    I think it’s very funny how everybody basically says the same thing, that the game is playable and decently alright, not great not terrible, and this by default turns it into the best 3D sonic game in the last 10 years

    • @NiceuRiceu
      @NiceuRiceu Год назад +11

      Considering Generations came out in 2011, this is unironically true

    • @sla_2023
      @sla_2023 Год назад +6

      It's terrible bro, just accept.

    • @apersoniguess_
      @apersoniguess_ Год назад +6

      @@sla_2023 it’s really not

  • @rift3068
    @rift3068 Год назад +161

    Say what you will about sonic, but he is the most tenacious video game mascot. After 2 decades of all of his games being either complete flops or mediocre, he’s still going strong

    • @wishbushwashbosh6443
      @wishbushwashbosh6443 Год назад +39

      He really shouldn’t say ALL of his games. The adventure games, advance trilogy, rush games, colors, generations, and mania were all generally well received critically. Even this game is getting general positive results critically. And I doubt that you’re talking about financially.

    • @gamercentral2417
      @gamercentral2417 Год назад +9

      “Mediocre”
      - average sonic “fan” who basically just hates on al the games

    • @ferretappreciator
      @ferretappreciator Год назад +16

      @@gamercentral2417 cry about it

    • @gamercentral2417
      @gamercentral2417 Год назад +6

      @@ferretappreciator no

    • @CaptainF123
      @CaptainF123 Год назад +7

      Classic fanboy over here.

  • @alphetti4348
    @alphetti4348 Год назад +38

    Honestly wished they made the grind rails actually fit in their environment, like they did with the adventure titles

    • @alphetti4348
      @alphetti4348 Год назад +13

      Honestly this game didn’t have style

    • @dodsonboys
      @dodsonboys Год назад +19

      It's like a test map for a fangame

    • @alphetti4348
      @alphetti4348 Год назад +3

      @@dodsonboys ONG

  • @AAAGamesMaster
    @AAAGamesMaster Год назад +195

    Imagine calling Sonic Adventure 2 "mid" and putting Lost World above Black Knight

    • @imagery5425
      @imagery5425 Год назад +19

      Imagine being correct. Couldn’t be me (I like SA2)

    • @gwufff
      @gwufff Год назад +15

      Black knight had banger music like any sonic game but uh.. yeaaaa...

    • @pokapoka3686
      @pokapoka3686 Год назад +29

      @@imagery5425 ngl I think sonic adventure 2 is overrated…. Sonics stages range from amazing (city escape, metal harbor), to okay (that pyramid one), and then actual trash (crazy gadget). However, the biggest issue in the games- it’s everyone else’s stages. Shadows stages are alright, tails’s sucks, knuckle’s sucks, eggman’s suck, rouge’s sucks, and it’s annoying that the dark side story gameplay is just a reskin of the hero side ones which seems really lazy (the game was rushed so I can’t blame the devs too much, but still).

    • @imagery5425
      @imagery5425 Год назад +1

      @@pokapoka3686 I openly admitted that I was in the wrong with that one. So yes, I DO know that the game is trash. I just like it anyway.

    • @pokapoka3686
      @pokapoka3686 Год назад +7

      @@imagery5425 Ik, I’m just saying I think it’s overrated… but yeah I like it too as well despite its very glaring flaws lol 😃

  • @TheAtomicDoggo
    @TheAtomicDoggo Год назад +136

    i was looking through some of the cutscenes and all I was thinking was "this should've been a TV show or movie"

    • @henrykado
      @henrykado Год назад +7

      what does that even mean?
      like are you saying it shouldnt have a story or is it just a random observation

    • @micaelpt801
      @micaelpt801 Год назад +1

      glad to always see a comment from my boy TheAtomicDoggo

    • @TheAtomicDoggo
      @TheAtomicDoggo Год назад +28

      ​@@henrykado im saying that from *what i`ve seen*, the writing and production for the cutscenes had more love put into it than the game itself

    • @TheAtomicDoggo
      @TheAtomicDoggo Год назад +2

      @@micaelpt801 yoo micael pt

    • @henrykado
      @henrykado Год назад +1

      @@TheAtomicDoggo that makes more sense yeah

  • @srcoeiu6100
    @srcoeiu6100 Год назад +22

    Gonna try my best to not throw a fit over Foekoe calling all the good games bad fr

  • @Luigi0909
    @Luigi0909 Год назад +48

    " Sonic frontiers is mid " that's the best thing I've heard about a sonic game in so long

  • @unremainings
    @unremainings Год назад +46

    Gotta admit the Hedgehog's music can be bangers sometimes.

    • @theminecraft2516
      @theminecraft2516 Год назад +38

      All the time

    • @decas5505
      @decas5505 Год назад +26

      Sonic games has always the best music even if the game is completely poo

    • @imagery5425
      @imagery5425 Год назад +1

      @@decas5505 forces, eraser, lost world, boom, and chronicles are calling.

    • @tigerguyTDS
      @tigerguyTDS Год назад +14

      @@imagery5425 still they had good ost

    • @invisisolation
      @invisisolation Год назад +18

      @@tigerguyTDS Mostly not really, but I disagree with him on Forces and Lost World. Forces had some great tracks but bad instrumentation for a portion of them, but the rest were still really good. Lost World's music might be a bit mid at times but still a lot of good stuff.

  • @KaiaBrodbecker
    @KaiaBrodbecker Год назад +92

    It's pretty jank, but so far so good. Hope Sonic Team keeps improving on what they have.

    • @tdenzel101
      @tdenzel101 Год назад +1

      it's up to Sega not sonic team.

    • @Ezpeezy309
      @Ezpeezy309 Год назад +6

      Sega manages the game but sonic team makes them

    • @mikoaj5002
      @mikoaj5002 Год назад

      Literally me

  • @deltadove741
    @deltadove741 Год назад +71

    Man I really enjoy Frontiers, Only now going online and I seeing all of these "Massive Issues" and everything. People Like Dunkey make the game look intentionally awful to try and shit on it because it gets more views but atleast Foekoe gave it a fair chance and somewhat fair review.

    • @wishbushwashbosh6443
      @wishbushwashbosh6443 Год назад +33

      I don’t mind Dunkey’s video because I found it funny and it’s supposed to be purely humorous. I don’t like the amount of sheep thinking the game is bad just because of the video.

    • @verdantorange
      @verdantorange Год назад +3

      @@wishbushwashbosh6443 "sheep" LMAO

    • @wishbushwashbosh6443
      @wishbushwashbosh6443 Год назад +5

      @@verdantorange Ok then, what are they?

    • @verdantorange
      @verdantorange Год назад +1

      @@wishbushwashbosh6443 ??? people who are influenced by creators they enjoy

    • @wishbushwashbosh6443
      @wishbushwashbosh6443 Год назад +7

      @@verdantorange so sheep.

  • @molluskcant6355
    @molluskcant6355 Год назад +25

    The grind rail courses make this games world look like a halo reach forge map.

  • @vitaleriof
    @vitaleriof Год назад +37

    even for how janky frontiers feels at times, i'm glad we can agree scarlet and violet got hit way harder in the jank department some mf look like they are permatly stuck at 5 fps

    • @maxweqill1435
      @maxweqill1435 Год назад +1

      I’m glad that Sonic Team at least tried and put effort into making Sonic Frontiers. Can’t say the same for Pokémon Scarlet and Violet.

  • @SirPembertonS.Crevalius
    @SirPembertonS.Crevalius Год назад +65

    It looks fine for a sonic game, especially compared to other sonic games as you say, but I can't justify it's $60 price tag from what I've seen and heard about it.

    • @0bashie
      @0bashie Год назад +12

      60 dolans for a tech demo, we live in a time in history

    • @Volejr
      @Volejr Год назад +24

      @@0bashie its not a "tech demo" its an actual nearly 10 hour game or more and in like your country its probably like the cost of 3 bread loafs

    • @0bashie
      @0bashie Год назад +12

      ​@@Volejr in my country it costs 182 cheapest bread loafs.
      60 USD = 2194 UAH
      1 loaf = ~12 UAH
      additionally, it really is kind of a tech demo. it looks like a straight up roblox game where you go on park rides, walmart land-style. ridiculous

    • @Aigle662frileux
      @Aigle662frileux Год назад +21

      @@0bashie TeCh DeMO 🤡

    • @0bashie
      @0bashie Год назад +5

      @@Aigle662frileux yea don't even explain yourself, chuck a clown emoji and you're done, no defense needed

  • @Herman61Real
    @Herman61Real Год назад +84

    truly one of the sonic games ever made

    • @idontknowhowtonamemyself7414
      @idontknowhowtonamemyself7414 Год назад +20

      I liked the part where Sonic says "Its Sonicing time" and soniced all over the place

    • @exotic1405
      @exotic1405 Год назад +8

      I liked the part where sonic was blue

    • @GimOA
      @GimOA Год назад +4

      you guys nissing out, he's a literal blue hedgehog that walks with only two legs!!

    • @thefastcommenter7774
      @thefastcommenter7774 Год назад

      Truly a overused meme of all time

    • @Neoniq41
      @Neoniq41 6 месяцев назад

      Loved the part when Sonic said "at last, we've discovered ALL of the Frontiers" truly and emotional moment.

  • @aubrynobicop6924
    @aubrynobicop6924 Год назад +11

    Would you believe me if I said that sonic team had to beg for the extra development time.

    • @Shi.f.t
      @Shi.f.t Год назад

      maybe

    • @apersoniguess_
      @apersoniguess_ Год назад +5

      SEGA putting their all into making sure Sonic Team gets as little time as possible to actually make games

  • @terrarianender
    @terrarianender Год назад +18

    The only Sonic game I ever played and really enjoyed was Mania. Even though I'm not a big fan of Sonic games I'm still hoping that he'll have an amazing 3D game one day.
    As a side note, I'm impressed that nearly every Foekoe video finds a way to dunk on an unrelated game with a less than ten second clip or meme.

    • @seematahir5970
      @seematahir5970 Год назад +7

      It's cool if you personally don't enjoy any 3D Sonic games but many of them are well-received (Generations, Colors, the Adventure games, etc.) I dont think it's fair to say none of them are amazing

    • @zackclark7968
      @zackclark7968 Год назад +10

      the "amazing 3d game" already came out. hop on generations lil bro

  • @Wither645
    @Wither645 Год назад +45

    My man really called the Adventure games and Unleashed mid while he called Black Knight "an atrocity" like my brother in christ Black Knight is (at least for me) not that awful
    Edit: having said that, i still respect his opinion even if i disagree, hating on someone just because of a different opinion on a game is dumb

    • @GimOA
      @GimOA Год назад +9

      Sonic with guns is hilarious tho 🤣

    • @imagery5425
      @imagery5425 Год назад +8

      Black knight needs more credit, Sonic with a sword is sick.

    • @sackydzNG
      @sackydzNG Год назад +8

      Not everyone can appreciate genuine masterpieces, and that’s okay (I guess)

    • @aTristicionAXA
      @aTristicionAXA Год назад +13

      Because they are mid once you play actually good games from consistently good franchises

    • @FlamingFoxProd
      @FlamingFoxProd Год назад +5

      I've been playing BK recently, and it's... honestly awesome. The gameplay isn't perfect, it can certainly get tedious at times - but everything else about the game is incredible.
      The sword combat, while jank at times, is very fun and fast paced.
      The music is incredible, it has some true underrated gems.
      The aesthetics are wonderful and well-grounded, rather impressive for the Wii too.
      And the writing? Genuinely the best Sonic has been written before Frontiers came along. It was the last truly good Sonic story and it perfectly showed off who the character is.

  • @Subby_Fee
    @Subby_Fee Год назад +29

    -Puts SA 1, 2 and Unleashed on mid.
    -Puts Lost World there as well.
    My man, the only game there that arguably deserved the title "mid" is Heroes, other 3 are really good and Lost World is really bad.

    • @fooxylol
      @fooxylol Год назад +22

      I can understand sa 1 kinda sorta, but 2 and unleashed? Those were peak.
      But le internet opinion so I'm not pressed that much.

    • @ryantrusty8933
      @ryantrusty8933 Год назад +8

      @@fooxylol sa1 is better than sa2

    • @Xross420
      @Xross420 Год назад +4

      @@ryantrusty8933 Now idk about that-

    • @posstwo
      @posstwo Год назад +7

      @@ryantrusty8933 Only in terms of level design and gameplay imo. The story, visuals, characters and Chao Garden are way better in SA2.

    • @Aggron_Ghost1221
      @Aggron_Ghost1221 Год назад +7

      Unleashed is peak gaming

  • @nightmarefredbeer1455
    @nightmarefredbeer1455 Год назад +19

    Sonic fans: shit on Forces because of "game playing itself" thing.
    Frontiers: does the same thing, but in open world
    Sonic fans: Perfection

  • @metagross6897
    @metagross6897 Год назад +7

    This title: exists
    The toxic part of the sonic community : we were once bad but now we are worse

  • @saifee7899
    @saifee7899 Год назад +11

    I just wish the boss fights in this game were more about being quick and moving around (like the ones in hyperlight drifter)

  • @seematahir5970
    @seematahir5970 Год назад +4

    I feel like the reason people dunk on 3D Sonic so much is because his games are not nearly as approachable as other platformers. There exist no other games that quite like the 3D Sonic titles, and when people get thrown off by the more serious stories and admitted lack of polish, they start looking for ways to devalue them as much as possible. We've gotten to the point where the supposed "atrocities" of Sonic consist of Sonic 06 and Shadow the Hedgehog --which feel like beating a dead horse--and 3 spinoff games, one of which is decent. Games like the Adventure games are considered "mid at best", and Generations and Colors are conveniently always ignored. And now that he's finally starting to break the mold and innovate, people are quick to provide destructive criticism.
    People aren't looking to Sonic with a genuine critical eye anymore. They just want him to fail and to mock him because his issues are more glaring, but no more prevalent, than other series. I have to stress that no game franchise is above slip-ups. Crash Bandicoot has tons of awful spin-offs. Hell, even Mario has had unpolished and frustrating games. I would gladly play Shadow the Hedgehog or Sonic Unleashed before I ever replayed Sunshine.
    I'm honestly just fucking tired of people saying Sonic is inconsistent and bad when he really isn't. He's had issues and I'll never argue he's a triple A game series or anything, but his games provide something that can't be found anywhere else in the sphere of gaming, and I'll always be grateful for them for that.

  • @kontofmonte3464
    @kontofmonte3464 Год назад +23

    For me bosses are an important part of a game, when I saw the bosses in this game i was blasted away by how good the ost implements them. Although I won't be playing the game the bosses were my favourite part
    And by the bosses i don't mean the mini bosses i love the main bosses waaaay more

  • @personperson5964
    @personperson5964 Год назад +21

    Seeing sonic fans reaction to genshin winning an award is some of the funniest shit I've seen in a while

    • @eyesofdeathperception6730
      @eyesofdeathperception6730 Год назад

      Ikr?

    • @ILikeMakeBelieveUnironically
      @ILikeMakeBelieveUnironically Год назад +1

      tbh the whole conflict is

    • @pusney1864
      @pusney1864 Год назад +24

      The entire mid vs mid fight was quite enjoyable

    • @Paulnurburg78
      @Paulnurburg78 Год назад +1

      Agreed both stupid dumb dumb fanbases being a bunch of babies over an award is fucking hillarious

    • @ILikeMakeBelieveUnironically
      @ILikeMakeBelieveUnironically Год назад

      @@Paulnurburg78 yeah, once i saw a genshin kid on a facebook group make a post throwing around random fancy-sounding insults to everyone on the other side with no explaination
      Chuckled a bit

  • @foulbeans9693
    @foulbeans9693 Год назад +7

    That looked more like a sandbox than an actual open world game.

  • @vizthex
    @vizthex Год назад +4

    i've also never been into Sonic, but the main problem with the games is that running fast isn't a fun game mechanic unless you design the game around that (like speedrunning games similar to Neon White and Cyberhook), but none of his games are designed around that - they're just platformers where you move way too fast.
    and as you said in the video, the level design still feels like a dev build with all the floating structures and whatnot. Collect-a-thons are designed around precise and methodical movement, but Sonic can't really do that so it ends up not working.
    i kinda liked the werehog levels in Unleashed because of the slower pace, letting me actually function and look for the collectibles and whatnot (though i played it on PSNow years ago, so i'd kinda handicapped myself lmao). I don't know why Sega hasn't leaned into his speed more and made something like Neon White - that would be peak Sonic imo.

  • @SunshowerHeathcliffBeliever
    @SunshowerHeathcliffBeliever Год назад +39

    I found the cyberspace levels to be really fun, actually.
    The speed and flow of it usually feels really satisfying to master, getting S rank in time is a great feeling.

    • @daniman0114
      @daniman0114 Год назад

      I tried my hardest to like them but I just couldn’t, the gameplay is plucked straight from forces and the level designs are from generations and unleashed, which means that traversing through the levels never felt quite right for me.

    • @venezuela547
      @venezuela547 Год назад

      I got the S rank on every stage, Its very fun.

    • @kenjiisparxx
      @kenjiisparxx Год назад

      The cyberspace overhaul mod makes the stages bearable and actually FUN. The default controls make me want to play Forces again tbh.

  • @stoopitnamls
    @stoopitnamls Год назад +7

    0:19 Sa2 is mid guys, its over.

  • @NotSoGenesiz
    @NotSoGenesiz Год назад +7

    this game makes me really hopeful for the next sonic game, imagine, we get to see the best aspects of this game but refined even more

  • @1111Lusor
    @1111Lusor Год назад +5

    While most of the problems usally are exagerated in the impact they have in the experience... the popping is really problematic in the open zone. And while in the normal progression it would have little impact, when getting all the 100% memory tokens the problem of not seeing the connected part of the course or rails is real.
    All being said a fair review, I don't agree with a lot, but what I expected based on your tastes and preferences in other reviews.

  • @jamassexd4134
    @jamassexd4134 Год назад +20

    Honey, new foekoe fart joke just dropped.

  • @BenjaDoesGames
    @BenjaDoesGames Год назад +6

    I really enjoyed frontiers and loved everything about it (minus pop-ins and a few glitches), but i see you have an opinion and i respect that. Have a good day.

  • @WigWoo1
    @WigWoo1 Год назад +3

    Sonic adventure 1&2 is all time best Sonic game hands down. I really don't know how you can call those games mid
    They were the ONLY good 3D Sonic games

    • @mikoaj5002
      @mikoaj5002 Год назад

      Hehe yes. Were

    • @DarkPanda558
      @DarkPanda558 Год назад +4

      You say “were” inclining that past Adventure 1 & 2 the games were better? They’re a bunch of good 3D Sonic games, people like to forget that though

    • @Kooky95
      @Kooky95 11 месяцев назад +1

      And yea, sa2 isn’t mid.
      It’s trash

  • @R.E.S
    @R.E.S Год назад +2

    Foekoe you are a really good, editor, RUclipsr and game reviewer. You inspire me a lot.

  • @bakerboy8821
    @bakerboy8821 Год назад +4

    I spent 6 hrs yesterday playing this game, completing the first area. After the giganto boss, I gotta go back

  • @xXAngel2DSXx
    @xXAngel2DSXx Год назад +2

    (2:48) This is something I can agree with Fok sense I understand the game is open world (while others call it “open zone”) these random sonic objects sprinkled around the game makes sonic frontiers look like a testing ground for controls rather then something a part of the map. Take Unleashed for example it’s hub world is a great representation of sonic world objects like springs, dash pads, and rails fit in so well and doesn’t feel like a lazy add on. In certain hubs they are even themed in sonic levels to fit the aesthetic of the level and makes it feel so much better and give you the feel of sonic running across the world. Frontiers is more on the mid side with random springs and dash pads thrown in there for no reason and calling it “ancient ruins”.

  • @zag1797
    @zag1797 Год назад +5

    i cannot believe Foe would share his opinion im unsubbing :pensive::pensive::pensive::pensive::pensive:

  • @smugbowkid9919
    @smugbowkid9919 Год назад +5

    They say “don’t settle for less,” but when “less” is the only thing you’ll ever get…

  • @erik1694
    @erik1694 Год назад +5

    Sonic games are known for the rewarding S ranks and replayable stages. For Frontiers the Cyberspace levels are not as replayable as other sonic games but you still have the satisfaction of learning the level design and Sonic's movement to get to the goal as fast as possible. I'm a big fan of the boost formula and i think the BEST implementation of this formula is in Sonic Rush Adventure for the DS, I'm not even joking. Getting the S rank is so cool and rewarding and is also required to progress into the story, and is the perfect introduction on how to properly enjoy Sonic games in general. You should give it a try!

    • @digito9650
      @digito9650 Год назад +1

      *cough cough* 1-2

    • @erik1694
      @erik1694 Год назад

      @@digito9650 even better then 1-2

    • @helpihavebats6392
      @helpihavebats6392 Год назад

      I mean i think it could be fun to get S ranks if it was hard to achieve but for the exception of 1-2 its just handed to ya.
      Like i wanna learn to optimize the level layouts but the lack of challenge provides no incentive to do so

    • @erik1694
      @erik1694 Год назад +1

      @@helpihavebats6392 If you want that kind of game i recommend Sonic Rush Adventure.

    • @helpihavebats6392
      @helpihavebats6392 Год назад

      @@erik1694 yo thanks for reminding me of that game that was the good stuff

  • @astro408
    @astro408 Год назад +26

    I cannot believe Foekoe expressed his opinion

    • @nix3l_
      @nix3l_ Год назад +4

      how dare he

    • @exotic1405
      @exotic1405 Год назад

      Skin his face off with a fishhook

  • @srcoeiu6100
    @srcoeiu6100 Год назад +33

    I see a lot of people calling it mid or just not awful but tbh i felt it's pretty good, just with a lot of problems and way more room for improvement

  • @ProbablyAdson
    @ProbablyAdson Год назад +10

    6/10 best game sonic team has put out in decades

    • @theminecraft2516
      @theminecraft2516 Год назад +6

      Best game they put out in decade (Generations)

    • @greysoncrowe5196
      @greysoncrowe5196 Год назад +3

      @@theminecraft2516 generations was a decade ago

    • @theminecraft2516
      @theminecraft2516 Год назад +3

      @@greysoncrowe5196 that’s what I just said

    • @iv0453
      @iv0453 Год назад

      @@theminecraft2516 Mania?

    • @Neoniq41
      @Neoniq41 6 месяцев назад

      @@iv0453 Not made by Sonic Team

  • @watto6491
    @watto6491 Год назад +2

    Thanks for giving us your opinion on the sonic series

  • @siginarayanan464
    @siginarayanan464 Год назад

    Foekoe, what is your opinion about the new bendy game, bendy, and the dark revival?
    yesterday i was watching sheeprampage talk about it. I was wondering why u have did any videos on it yet

  • @nicaaro
    @nicaaro Год назад +4

    All the grindrail sections look like I made them in Disney infinity when I was 11

  • @Arzinist
    @Arzinist Год назад +8

    An alright game is a masterpiece in the eyes of a sonic fan (we have like 3 actually good games)

    • @pulse27
      @pulse27 Год назад +2

      it depends on your tastes. i enjoy most sonic games, even forces is pretty fun for me.

    • @greysoncrowe5196
      @greysoncrowe5196 Год назад +1

      From what I've heard: Frontiers, Adventure 1 & 2, and Generations are really good (10-7/10).
      Unleashed, Colors, and Heroes are mid (about 6-5/10).
      06, Lost World, Boom, and Forces are awful.

    • @pulse27
      @pulse27 Год назад

      @@greysoncrowe5196 i've heard unleashed praised, lost world being called ok, frontiers being praised for being mid, colors being hated on for no reason, and people hating on sa2. the fanbase has weird opinions.

    • @greysoncrowe5196
      @greysoncrowe5196 Год назад

      @@pulse27 I'm just going off of the general consensus. Everyone has their own opinions.

    • @pulse27
      @pulse27 Год назад

      @@greysoncrowe5196 i mean, colors was pretty well recieved.

  • @mr_hacks2552
    @mr_hacks2552 Год назад +1

    actually tho like whats the name of that music at the end that shit was banging hard

  • @DALLORGON
    @DALLORGON Год назад +2

    i couldnt agree more with you. finally and i mean finally i beat the game today, played on and off since launch but never got around to beating it. Wanted to make a review myself but you just summed up literally every problem that i had and I commend you for doing so. Great video well done

  • @ricomannen2502
    @ricomannen2502 Год назад +6

    All I wanted to hear was that, at least this game is better than scarlet and violet, THANK YOU Foekoe for making my day

  • @bing_crystal4831
    @bing_crystal4831 Год назад +4

    I like to give the game the benefit of the doubt it’s all the glitches and boring moments by remembering that this game is still basically brand new, but yeah. I feel like the cutscenes and character interactions are probably the highlight of the game so far imo. At least the Sonic games are slowly getting better.

  • @borderline-passible
    @borderline-passible Год назад +5

    tbh as a sonic fan im satisfied with an "ok" rating backed up with some good evidance

    • @wishbushwashbosh6443
      @wishbushwashbosh6443 Год назад

      Well the general reception of this game has been that it’s pretty good which should be better than just OK.

  • @Blackdiamond2
    @Blackdiamond2 Год назад +2

    the grind rails just placed randomly throughout the sky reminds me of those 1-block random squiggles of obsidian on 2b2t

  • @TheMotionHero
    @TheMotionHero Год назад +9

    Bro, I don’t know why it actually hurt to see Sonic and the Black Knight and Secret Rings alongside Boom at the very beginning, like there’s no way those games remotely close because unlike boom, you can at least have fun with the other two 😂

  • @JESSYOW
    @JESSYOW Год назад +6

    tfw it opens up with how rough 3D sonic has had it

  • @theoriginalstarwalker1653
    @theoriginalstarwalker1653 Год назад +2

    1:34 I literally live for these small details

  • @somedude725
    @somedude725 Год назад +1

    Maybe they might add a difficulty options which would probably help with the boss fights

  • @Vintagesonic1
    @Vintagesonic1 Год назад +3

    0:18 Ayo, there's no way this man put some of the most goated Sonic games of all time like SA1, Heroes and Unleashed in the "mid" category.

    • @Kooky95
      @Kooky95 11 месяцев назад

      It’s true.

  • @TheAlphaandOmega252
    @TheAlphaandOmega252 Год назад +4

    Don't care if you say Sonic is mid, as long as I'm having fun on frontiers then I'm good

  • @N00N01
    @N00N01 Год назад +1

    Tbh a wierd railing in the air feels less wierder than the courses he ran before

  • @stolenalt
    @stolenalt Год назад +4

    Well duh. Any sane and non-stubborn being out there would either say Sonic Frontiers is good, alright or mid. People gotta be more grateful and also more judgemental cause that's exactly what a good sonic game is, "Alright!"

  • @Miguelius256
    @Miguelius256 Год назад +5

    you know what? the more I think about it, I wish this game could have been better. I'm not blaming the game for being bad and I have my boredom, instead I enjoyed it. I loved running around trying to figure out to get the chaos emeralds and, even if the story wasn't top notch, I loved the new character. I just hoped there could've been more depth to everything generally and make the game more interesting. For example, more love to the map instead of grind rail roller coasters and improvements in the cyberstage's physics, challenges, variety and level design. (But ok, it's a kids' game, we need those puzzles to be simple level 1 thin ice from the iconic club penguin).
    good video tho. 👍

    • @Miguelius256
      @Miguelius256 Год назад

      There are already dumps of cut content if anybody is curious.

    • @greysoncrowe5196
      @greysoncrowe5196 Год назад

      Everyone else is saying that too, the game is not bad by any means, just could use more.

    • @Miguelius256
      @Miguelius256 Год назад

      @@greysoncrowe5196 I can see that is becoming common sense

  • @banette0819
    @banette0819 Год назад +4

    Honestly, if somebody showed me Sonic frontiers' map I would straight up just say that it's from zelda breath of the wild.

  • @BlindSpectet
    @BlindSpectet Год назад +1

    Yoooo foekoe upload!!

  • @Mikey-tc3xi
    @Mikey-tc3xi Год назад +2

    Now do scarlet and violet, I think it's good even with its faults, but I would like to see your opinion

  • @ILikeMakeBelieveUnironically
    @ILikeMakeBelieveUnironically Год назад +4

    Hey, thanks for being the first guy in a while to give a bad review of a Sonic game that doesn't just have problems that can be summed up by "i'm bad at the game". Really haven't seen theese often.

  • @lordstarlin
    @lordstarlin Год назад +4

    feels like one of the most honest reviews straight

  • @Zadamanim
    @Zadamanim Год назад +2

    I havent used the auto combo skill but I think it might be making him just use random skills all the time? I don't know why they put that in the game at all.

  • @PolyChromeTV
    @PolyChromeTV Год назад +1

    Legit tho... what are those pulley rope things called?!

  • @pacmanfan3488
    @pacmanfan3488 Год назад +3

    Ehh i don't really agree with you saying Sonic adventure 1 2 and heroes were mid but oh well everyone has their tastes

  • @kneftwuppo
    @kneftwuppo Год назад +3

    great video! sums up my thoughts pretty well. (also for the record adventure 1 and 2 are masterpieces when you look past the problems brought about by age)

    • @ghartuckt663
      @ghartuckt663 Год назад +1

      Thats not really a good argument, you can look past the problems on any bad game and call it good, you can ignore the problems but they are still there.

    • @kneftwuppo
      @kneftwuppo Год назад +2

      @@ghartuckt663 thats true but i mean to say that certain problems the game has aren't their fault like for instance halo combat evolved having confusing level design is acceptable because not many people had really done 3d games yet

    • @cradodragmire1563
      @cradodragmire1563 Год назад

      @@ghartuckt663 No like problems that are caused by age not development.
      Thats most of the issues.
      There are issues that are actually mistakes but most for Adventure are just age.

    • @snakey888
      @snakey888 Год назад

      Nah, too many design issues.

    • @kneftwuppo
      @kneftwuppo Год назад

      @@snakey888 the majority of issues reguarding the adventure games are a cause of the industry as a whole not knowing better at the time that they were made. This doesn't mean they're not flaws it just means that they are acceptable ones.

  • @deftwhistle
    @deftwhistle Год назад

    Ok I need to know what that game in the down part was at the start it looks nice

  • @dunkboyxd6618
    @dunkboyxd6618 Год назад

    We’re you playing on easy mode or hard mode? I think hard mode makes you actually press a sequence of buttons to do special moves

  • @yamandoesstuff9755
    @yamandoesstuff9755 Год назад +3

    It's more of a "Oh shit we made something good after a decade" moment for sega. They know it's not great and we know its not great but it's good for now as they kinda got out their little limbo.
    If i would rate it i would rate it a 7/10
    The story is good imo but weak at times.
    Cyberspace felt a bit more fun to me but i can understand where you're coming from. Very annoying and clunky at times (seriously this game needs a hotfix).
    Also the rails floating is because they're "not supposed to be there" but... it still looks awkward.
    Overall good for now and i like it. Good to see something good come out of sonic in after a long time.

  • @Lev-Wave
    @Lev-Wave Год назад +6

    This game really seem like something that was made with a lesser budget compared to the previous sonic games like generations and unleashed at least in the visual department

    • @Arzinist
      @Arzinist Год назад +14

      Yeah, this game actually had a really small team (like 60 people) so you're sort of right

    • @exotic1405
      @exotic1405 Год назад +3

      @@Arzinist 60 ppl on a AAA game???????

    • @Arzinist
      @Arzinist Год назад +2

      @@exotic1405 yup

    • @exotic1405
      @exotic1405 Год назад +1

      @@Arzinist dang

    • @ninlaw9810
      @ninlaw9810 Год назад +3

      @@Arzinist sega needs to hire more people after this

  • @tremonstergaming2490
    @tremonstergaming2490 Год назад

    I was waiting for this with such anticipation you’d think I was waiting for a video game from my favorite company to drop

  • @superstitiousstealth4404
    @superstitiousstealth4404 Год назад +2

    imagine foekoe made a scarlet and violet video 😳😳

  • @adummy9664
    @adummy9664 Год назад +3

    I really don't get why people lose it when larger popular RUclipsrs show the flaws of this game when it's so clear from any sort of gameplay footage that this is "7/10 open world" the game.
    Like there's nothing wrong with enjoying it but people shouldn't make it out to be more than it is and shouldn't get mad when someone else doesn't share their opinion. (*COUGH* People hating on Dunkey for disliking the game. *COUGH*)

  • @CTGReviews
    @CTGReviews Год назад +5

    “Extremely mid”
    *proceeds to show both Sonic Adventure games and Unleashed*

    • @games_on_phone89
      @games_on_phone89 Год назад

      adventure 1 IS mid

    • @CTGReviews
      @CTGReviews Год назад

      @@games_on_phone89 then why is your profile from one of its cutscenes

    • @games_on_phone89
      @games_on_phone89 Год назад

      @@CTGReviews because it's a meme, the whole bit of my account is that it's a shitpost account

    • @theshark4715
      @theshark4715 Год назад +3

      @CharlieDoesRoblox since the cutscenes are so goofy and bad that they are classified as memes

    • @CTGReviews
      @CTGReviews Год назад

      @@games_on_phone89 so you don’t think it’s mid?

  • @Stickestpt2
    @Stickestpt2 Год назад

    whats your opinion on the 16 bit games?

  • @MonkeyManTL
    @MonkeyManTL Год назад +2

    Personally, I thought the game was amazing but that’s mostly because we haven’t had a good sonic game in a while, I liked all of that islands except chaos island that was when it got real repetitive

  • @mayonnaise3959
    @mayonnaise3959 Год назад +4

    Literally the halo infinite of the sonic franchise(halo infinite at launch that is not now)

  • @os9077
    @os9077 Год назад +5

    Sonic Frontiers is the best Sonic gams in my opinion and its a really good game, the game is not mid the game is a masterpiece that that even outsold gow ragnarok

    • @os9077
      @os9077 Год назад

      @SaltyAndGreasy 3 million sales for Sonic its like 20 million

    • @Nathan-rb3qp
      @Nathan-rb3qp Год назад

      @@os9077 Oh you're making a joke about the 7 is like a 10 to us mentally.

    • @os9077
      @os9077 Год назад

      @@Nathan-rb3qp ye but we are sonic fans bro

  • @TailsHub7
    @TailsHub7 9 месяцев назад +2

    i dont see how adventure 2, unleashed, or adventure 1 is mid but i respect your opinion

  • @moongirl-d9h
    @moongirl-d9h Год назад

    you know the little jump rope missions? you can just skip them. holding parry in the air allows sonic to stay in the air infinitely so you dont have to even play

  • @yamaspajamaz7718
    @yamaspajamaz7718 Год назад +3

    i think THE BEST thing that sonic frontiers can do rn is to fix its clonky movement, pop in and lag and the game will be much BETTER

  • @qwertyiuwg4uwtwthn
    @qwertyiuwg4uwtwthn Год назад +4

    Im having Post-Game clarity with frontiers
    Its pretty mediocre

  • @theophilecaceres5855
    @theophilecaceres5855 Год назад +1

    6:58 This is literally more sus than the hydraulic press vs baby joke ayoooo foekoe...

  • @VintageJeffGAYmin
    @VintageJeffGAYmin Год назад +5

    uh oh he pissed off so many sanic fans

  • @sportyzmech2104
    @sportyzmech2104 Год назад +9

    Remember guys:
    When your videogame franchise is running out of ideas or doing terrible
    Make it go open-world

    • @bfhhzgefr685
      @bfhhzgefr685 Год назад +8

      Weak joke sonic frontier is not open world like botw or other it's open zone

    • @mementomori1553
      @mementomori1553 Год назад +2

      sometimes it works well like breath and the wild and sometimes it works horrendously like sonic frontiers and pokemon scarlet and violet

  • @InferiorWhaleburg
    @InferiorWhaleburg Год назад +3

    I remember saying that this game was BOTW 6 years after BOTW, and it's worse. Then some sonic fan getting insanely angry about it and saying something along the lines of "Sonic is WAY better then BOTW"
    He's wrong.

  • @moistsponge9227
    @moistsponge9227 Год назад +1

    I thought it was a step up, they wanted to be more ambitious and experimental with sonic and i enjoyed it. Apart from the ending. And the latter half of the story was a bit... anticlimactic. I didn't have any pop in problems on pc? at least not to the extent where parts of the level were unloaded as you show here. Perhaps it's exclusive to consoles? or i just didnt notice, i couldn't say

  • @PythorPlayz9
    @PythorPlayz9 Год назад +2

    I remember the old title used to be called sonic fartiers 😂