WHY DID THEY BUFF THIS CHARACTER?!?!
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“How do you want to die?”
We are at the peak of Larry’s villain arc
it took a while..but we got there
no this is incineroar
Incineroar makes even the strongest of souls drunk with the sheer power of dealing 60% in one move
Incin brings out the heel in everyone
Larry a couple months ago: Great moveset, bad character, needs buffs/rework
Larry now: WHY DID THEY BUFF INCINEROAR?!
whatever gets the clicks and views, I guess!! lol
Saying what a character needs to be viable and actually wanting them are two different things
FUN LARRY FACT: At the smash 4 tournament 2GGC: Greninja Saga, Larry beat Tweek 3-0
thank you silvesta. your facts and other comments are always a treat to read and make me smile :)
@@winterlogical Aww, and reading that put a smile on my face! :) Wishing you a wintery and logical day my dude ☃️
The only thing holding Incin back is speed. If he had even Sora speed he'd shoot up the tier list
ive always found that careful dashdancing is enough to make up for the lack of mobility. Getting that spacing right opens you up to a grab or dtilt or weak nair etc
As an Incineroar main I hardly notice the speed since im usually in the air anyway but that recovery man :(
I think speed matters less than people think, like it's obviously a downside, but for both incin and kirby I feel they're so strong up close that their speed usually doesn't matter on a small stage
@@bawbehh the kirby match up is pain
@@Whorlando kirby is hard for other rushdowns since kirby plays the close up game so much better than most others, he just doesn't have the speed to get there
Probably just me but I love Incin. He’s the only character in the game where I have fun and can maybe play competitively. He’s fun, satisfying, and rewarding to play. Actually has quick tilts and powerful ariels, that side b is great, and even his down B is solid for opponent reads. His recovery and speed are a big issue but if he was just a bit fast, oh man..
He's such a fun character to play as
Well trust me, the moment you try to play him competitively is when you’ll stop having fun. Not saying you should drop him. Play him if that’s what you like. Just saying he’s bottom tier for a reason
There’s a reason why he’s my main. He’s just fun incarnate
He's incredibly cool, he has some amazing properties but damn that movement speed really fucks him
He’s super cool, keep playin him
7:46 dude that did 73% and almost killed at 3
Just Incin things
"there are a few ways we can do this and the choice is yours..."
Wait is this a Boondocks reference?
Booty Warrior
"i don't know what to do... 'cause you're just mashing through everything..."
says a day-one sora player...
What does Incin for me is not only how the character plays, full of mind games, predictions and reads
But also the fact that after almost every move you hear Incin yell or roar or make a sound
It's so expresive and I love it
"What move is it guys?" *shows f1 of jumpsquat*
No wonder they all got it wrong.
"He is currently doing an attack"
Wasn't helping either
We were lied to
0:11 when Incin has the exact face that says “how do you want to die”
it's like the third time they buff him but every time the only thing they buff is his power or damage when the only thing he needs is a little more speed T-T
I started playing Incineroar a few weeks ago and he's been super fun. He's gone from being a character I didn't want in the game to one that I always enjoy playing as.
Yeah he's got great buttons. If they just gave him a bit more mobility instead of doubling down on power, he'd have a way better matchup spread.
*Jelani after dying below 40%:* that’s broken!
*Larry:* well yes, but actually yes
9:24 If you hold b or press b repeatedly, Sora's side b homes in on the opponent. You want to tap b when you first activate side b and then only use your analog stick to choose the next angle(s) you want to travel at, without pressing b again or holding it for longer than when you initially tap it.
This dude has johns for days lmao
Incineroar is kind of a wildcard. Sometimes he effortlessly dominates, but sometimes you get completely shut out with him, and it feels like there's no in-between.
This game changed me from hating incineroar to absolutely loving him. The damage, the specials, hell even the mini taunts he does after every attack is glorious. Decidueye might be my favorite alolan starter but incineroar could be in my top 10 Pokémon list depending on the mood.
8:46 Has Incin always had drift when Revenge goes off? I don't think I've ever seen that before, it's an interesting recovery tacic
I am not sure, although I have mained him for a while. I believe he always drifts a bit when countering successfully in the air which gets amplified if you already moved in the direction before countering.
I think that only happens if you activate the counter on the 1st frame it comes out. Advanced tech
Wondered the same thing. Can't say I've ever seen that. Would be nice to figure out though.
If you revenge an attack on the first 1 or 2 frames of the counter’s activation, you get a big dash like that. It only works in the air. I was hoping they would make that window bigger so he could use that as a consistent approach option or a recovery tool.
@@battleboy6360 Good to know
As an incineroar player this pleases me greatly
How to beat Inciniroar
1. Zoning. He has to come to you anyways.
2. Edge guarding and ledge trapping. With Sora you'll want to put him in awkward situations with moves that send at a bad angle. Forward tilt 1 and down smash are great for this.
3. Watch for situations where you might end up trading hits. You will not win those trades majority of the time.
How do you zone inciniroar with Revenge?
@@gr8645 Just keep zoning and wait for an opportunity to grab.
Incin loses all his revenge-stacks when thrown
Hands down Larry is my favorite smash tuber. I can feel the reality of him.
Sadly, the only way to beat Incineroar is to camp
Larry is 100% Smash clickbait, and I love it.
Why did they buff him?
Uh… Because he was severely underperforming.
I play incineroar and I agree. He is a lot better than people think he is. I have him very high in elite and win a ton of matchups that he has no business winnning. And my friend who is way better than me and we’re constantly surprised how good he is considering Gamow bad he’s supposed to be.
That being said, if a zoner knows and understands the matchup, incineroar has a rough day.
"How do you wanna die?"
LMFAO
9:04 what in the hell is that ungodly deep metalic sound?
Man I love when you play Jelani I laugh so much 😂
up thow is my favorite finisher
subscribed when you said Incineroar is better than most people think :D
7:44: side b did 73 % and almost killed directly lol
One thing I never knew about until recently was that if you grab and throw incineror while he has revenge he losses it which is kind of dumb if you think about it
Definitely not dumb. A mechanic like that needs counterplay when a revenged Incineroar can do like 50 damage or kill you stupid early
@@kalecraft8906 yes it does need counterplay but should it be off of something he can’t even shield
Oh damn had no idea! Thanks for the tip!
That pokemon is so tough! I wish I knew that sooner!
@@shrimp258 lol I don't know what that's supposed to mean. So what if he can't shield it? Grabbing is so much worse in Ultimate than it's ever been in any smash game.
7:45 but on a real note what is this monstrocity?
He needs to use Sora's projectiles more, he barely used them.
They’re all fairly telegraphed and Incineroar can just absorbs them with Down-B.
@@MerryBlind good point! I think blizzaga would be the most useful against Incineroar.
@@IcebergSSBU Yeah probably
@@IcebergSSBU only when Incineroar is off stage. If he's not, then this get's revenged aswell, or even worse, he will use that as am opening to close the gap, maybe even grab you with side-b if ur not careful and are in range for that
Incinaroar is a character who's 100% ported from Smash 4, he gots all the down throw combos and slower methodical speed of 4
Your Saltyness amuses me. 😈
I’m thinking the whole time “ahhh he really should use Sora’s a bit more counter against this character…it’s really good against him if you can read the spacing of his moves.”
and then the one time he uses the counter it missed the swing. And they were like “man they need to buff Sora’s counter…” I’m just like *internally screaming* because Sora’s counter is actually pretty broken when it lands…
respectful ending
He said I am fucking running hahaha
We should all know mentality is everything in Smash. No matter how “unviable” a character can seem, never forget that all it takes is one player to push the meta to change minds. Heck, there’s some people wondering if Byleth is actually high tier. #BeYourself
The videos with the two of you are so good! I hope Zenyou visits again soon too.
Thanks for reminding me to buff pikachu, Larry lurr
Con incineroar cuando vez que tu oponente tiene intención de golpear 2 veces seguidas, tenes la opción de utilizar el especial abajo 2 veces seguidas
If Incineroar was faster, he’d be top tier. I WOULD BET MONEY ON THAT
Incineroar salt feeds my soul! Give me moaaaarrrrr
I love Larry
Call me bias but Larry / Jumpsteady streams make the best content 😂😂😂
Smash players: 'This character is kinda bad'
Smash players when that character gets buffed: 'WHY DID THEY BUFF THIS CHARACTER?!'
This is literally happening with puff
incineroar has in my opinion some of the best normals in the game but is cursed with being slow as hell
Because characters that are slow or have bad recovery rank low unless the things they have in compensation actually make up for it.
"Incineroar is just better Bowser" -some Bowser main at my weekly after getting 3 stocked
*Mashes N-air combo. Immediately gets punished.*
You are mashing!
7:44 73% in 1 attack. Incineroar is for big brain players who maximize efficiency.
Sora lost cuz he didn’t have type advantage. Steel, electric, ice and fire does little to nothing to incineroar. And intimidate ability was the biggest factor.
tbh
up-b and down-smash was already strong enough lmao
it's so weird how they decided to just do damage buffs
up-air didn't need a damage increase
@Peter Pappas
🤨
THAT BOY GOT A NOGGIN
Literally the only bad thing about incin is his speed. He has very good frame data and damage and kill confirms
That dude is spittin'.
Fuck Incineroar.
Your Incineroar is frightening!
"He's the first person to complain about Incineroar"
Hahahaha, no.
This dumbass character has been on my hitlist ever since he's been announced for Smash. Not only do I not understand why this thing deserves to be in Smash, it also feels even more bitter because there's no more Fighter Passes to make up the "Bro there's enough space for everyone just chill" excuse. Straight up if Incineroar, Byleth and Min Min didn't exist we could have characters people actually asked for.
Denzel? Like the one from Game Night?
Fellow yugioh head in here?
Imo. If we have Incine a speed buff, he'd be pretty generic like another smash character. So I think they should MASSIVELY buff grab range and side B range. That way he'll he a true grappler.
Alolan whip with more range would be busted
God please no
The buff I always wanted for incin is not even to buff his ground movement but just his air speed
I love seeing my big fire boy out in the wild
He needs to spam projectiles with sora
Incineroar Agenda
😋
fighting against a better player who plays incineroar is one of the worst pains.
i jus wish u could cancel the up b down spike, i think thats the only thing holding him back from being solo viable
Larry Lurr
they buffed my main!^^
Because he needs it and i swear you said the same
Found a sora combo that can kill a lot of characters at incredibly low percents if they don't have a good horizontal recovery down throw/tilt 3 hit combo and thundara then snipe em off stage with a freeze
The only "combo" is the dthrow 3 hit tilt. The rest is edge guarding and assuming your opponent dropped his controller midset (or mindlessly burned double jump)
Incin is great he has a good moveset he just has big flaws to make him competitive
I love incineroar
The way my friend plays this matchup as Sora is he spams projectiles and then either rolls away or down-Bs when you try to close the gap and punish, or if he thinks you'll throw side-B to catch one of those options then he'll just throw out an Fsmash
Ya I love when an already polarizing matchup becomes more polarizing. Like I love it when my opponent picks little Mac, Incin or Luigi and then platform camp them so much fun, they complain then I say blame your character it's your characters fault, I play Sephiroth, I'm very cool
Larry tell me how to 2 frame you are ungodly with the 2 frames on every character you play
Ungodly... so you mean he’s bad? If you mean he’s good with it, wouldn’t you say “godly”? I’m not tryna be a grammar nazi but I’m just- I’m confused I don’t know man
Also gimping
Incin definitely beats sora
The fella playing Sora is complaining about Incineroar. Yikes
8:22 it’s gotta be up b right
Edit: Fuck
lets b real larry, yo boy is garbo
Idk why they buff him tbh
Because incin deserves to be high tier
Buff Incineroar's movement speed! >:)
As the only cat in the game he deserves to be top tier! Buff Incineroar!!!
Mfw LarryLurr uploads
Incin would be chrom tier if he was fast.
I main Ridley, but my pocket Incineroar is far more hype
Lol if you haven’t complained about inceniroar you probably haven’t played a good one. Plays very simple but effective.
On the other hand I love Sora and main him but i don’t see him being that good. Maybe bottom half of high tier
😂
The furry wrestler rises.
I agree with the title, he was already stupidly broken, he didn't need to be buffed. He actually needed nerfs, tbh. I hate this character.
Because I politely asked
"i think he is the first person to have complained about Incineroar"
LOL I can assure he certainly isn't: i play ult with a friend a lot (on average 15-25h/week) and he absolutely hates fighting Incineroar lmao
This dude so passively insulting lmao
“I don’t know what to do cuz youre like mashing”
*loses*
“Sora is the type of character that has to optimize (nothing like yours 🥴)”
😂
incineroar is better Ganon
"Why did they buff this character?"
Most likely because he was bottom tier, and still is, 4 patches later. The buffs he got this patch were laughable compared to what he got in 8.0.0, where the grab buffs he got actually mattered. I like his Up B damage buff but isn't enough compared to what he really needed
In my opinion, Incineroar could use the following buffs to make him more viable, potentially an actual threat:
- Initial dash speed 1.76 -> 1.8, Run speed 1.18 -> 1.25. The buff to initial dash speed is more important than run speed, but having more of it helps. Despite the change, Incineroar will still have the slowest run speed in the game.
- Up Tilt 9% -> 10% and total time 34 -> 32, just to make this move more useful because while not bad, it is one of the least used moves in his kit.
- Increased knockback scaling and/or decreased landing lag on Forward Air. It should either kill 10% earlier or have its landing lag decreased from 14 -> 12, making it -7 on shield. I'm fine with either or but this move could use a buff.
- Down Air startup 16 -> 15, this one isn't very necessary, but Ganondorf basically has the same Down Air as Incineroar, but it does more damage, is safer on shield, and kills earlier. Making it slightly faster would be a good way to differentiate the two moves, but isn't as important because it already is a good move.
I could have went on, but I think some increase to his ground speed would immensly help to the character - that said, I like Incineroar's design of being a slower character but having ways to make up for it in other areas, and using a move like Revenge to deal with zoning or for countering your opponent in disadvantage or off reads.
Having Revenge grant you a speed buff would be a hilarious way to fix his speed problem as well, but I understand a powered-up Incin is already stressful enough to deal with, so I don't know if I would want to go too far.
1st
Bruh recover lower
This game has a bloated roster of one dimensional characters that get boring fast. They traded balance for that novelty.