I’m a motorcycle mechanic for 50 years. The trick to getting the carbs back on after a cleaning is to angle the carb holders and spray them with WD40. Then strap a ratcheting tie down across the carbs and the bottom of the frame. Trust me it works as you will drive yourself nuts trying to push the carbs into the heads!
He is right my family has been in the mechanic business since 79. Imo the worst intake boots were on Yamahas. The viragos and viagras. I hated those things.
So many people ride these like they're V twins, and never really understand the bike. These bikes pull right up to redline, and love doing it. the sweetest spot torque wise is usually between 7 and 8k, that should tell you how it wants to be ridden :D
Great video. The Yamaha sounds awesome and I agree that the VF1100s deserved a more aggressive sound. However the V65 stock would absolutely eat everything else out there of the era. I owned one for several years in the early 90s a 2,000 miles 85 model. Unbelievable power and has to be felt to believe.
To this day it's still a ferocious bike! I did some work to my Yamaha - Pod filters, stage 3 jet kit, clutch and a tune. Made it faster, but still I can feel that the Sabre would easily pull ahead. Especially above 7,000rpm. It's a rocket when you get in it's powerband.
Excellent video! Really good seeing you get more used to being on camera. I can tell you’re much more comfortable in front of the lens than you were in your first video
Thank you! Yes, that's definitely taken some getting used to - talking to a camera. I'm feeling more comfortable and not so rigid anymore. I'm trying to become a better presenter.
When you must take out the carburetors for a proper cleaning and overhaull, you can add the 6th thing you hate about this bike...no big deal, with practice, 6 to 8 hours and a lot of bad words. Greetings from Costa Rica!!!
I've had four of the v65 Sabres and one v65 magna. One Sabre was a 1984(my favorite) and the rest 85's. A proper running example still amazes today. My 84 was my best example and was a very low mileage bike. I am on the search for another now. Great video. 👍
I am in love with the Honda V4. I have a 2001 Magna and it's just so nice. Glad to hear your opinion of the gen 3 motor is "bulletproof". I just crested 5k on the odometer, so I can't wait to ride it forever! A part of me wants a V65 Magna or Sabre, but I need to finish my current GS850 project before I get another to fix up.
I have an '84 Sabre V65..... Bought it about 5 years ago and had to travel to get it, but well worth it !!! The bike is comfortable to me, with crash bars and extra footpegs out front to stretch your legs.... But, man, what a beast !!!!! I love the fact that I have a bike that nobody else in our area has and not just another black Harley... lol... Also, my wife loves riding on this one, as we have the luggage rack/backrest and a trunk to store stuff.
I had 1985 V65, it was an absolute beast, I loved it. I used to do 140+MPH on highways, you're hugging the gas tank so the wind doesn't blow your off, you can only see a small window in front as the sides are blurred, yes ludicrous speed.
My dad had a ton of these, his main gripe was that he thought it needed a slightly longer swingarm to help handling, and get the power down without lifting so much. of all the V45's 65's Manga's and Sabre's he had through the years(a different one every few months), his favorite was one of the later V65's Sabre's for longer trips, he'd rid ethe 45's short rides, and Interceptor for sporty rides. These are definitely going to be collectable bikes soon.
I replaced the original handlebars on my 84, with 1.5" rise bars and greatly improved the seating position. Also pulled the baffles out of the exhaust pipes. I don't remember if after market pipes existed at the time. I think I remember some F1 slip-ons but went the cheap route. It made my ears happy.
I had a 1985 out of the box in 1987. I was in love. It felt like a rocket ship in 6th. Smooth as silk and would growl in 5th like a tiger. It did have you sitting upright, but at 5’9” it was a good fit and on the Highway I would use the back pegs to get horizontal at high speeds. I could duck my face behind the gauges and fly. This bike was sold with a big fairing if you wanted it, but I’ve only seen a few. The fairing was Sabre specific. I paid 2,200 plus my ragged out kz650 trade in. Problems? Yes. The plastic was not the best and the back tail section had to be rigged tight by me. It had a wiring flaw and the bike might go dark if it rained. The cat liked clawing my seat on a regular basis. Can’t tell you how many seats I bought. I tried running it over, but fast cat. Also, the main fuse would pop, so I carried one. The carbs gunked out on me in 2007. I’m not a mechanic, but Reno Honda charged me a fortune to get it running, only to die a few weeks later. Then it sat. The bike had 12 k miles in 2012, but Honda said they would not work on it and I should get rid of it. Incompetent losers and I regret selling it. Funny, I sold it for 2,200.
I bought an '84 V65 Sabre when I was 17 for $2200, and it had 2,000 miles on it. The 1st owner was 5'9" and had trouble with balancing the bike at stops. I'm 6'1", so I had no issues. Still remember running it to a buck 40 on the country roads - it did it so easily. Only got one ticket for 47/30 in the city. Since I worked at a Honda/BMW/Suzuki dealer at the parts counter, I was able to get a good price on the matching black/burgundy/gray Hondaline fairing, and had one of the mechanics in back install it. Only issue I had was the 3-wire regulator plug shorted-out (vibration), so I had to repair the connector. I kept it for 3 years and sold it w/19k miles on it, because I needed a car for my college internship.
What a great review. I'm currently riding a Kawasaki Vulcan 1500, and a Yamaha Stryker 1300, but have my eyes on an '84 V65 Magna. I'm so close to pulling the trigger, but I don't have the room for it. I should sell one of my bikes first. I've owned lots of Hondas in the past including the CB750, and 3 Interceptors, the 1000 being my favorite and this is like an 1100 Interceptor, only more comfy so I KNOW I'd adore it.
I had this bike with the racing fairing. I disagree with all of your dislikes. You don't complain about a 40 year old bike. This bike was the most amazing motorcycle I have ever owned, and I still think about it 40 years later. It was the competition to the fastest accelerating bike in the world at the time - the Yamaha VMAX! HOWEVER! There is one severe dislike I had with this bike. Ready??.... This bike will kill you. One - It is a heavy monster. The bike once slipped on some sand at a stop sign. I came down on me at a stop. It was so heavy that my big toe was shattered while trying to hold it up. Two - Acceleration. The bike accelerates with such power that if you crank the throttle to0 fast, the bike will rip your arms out of their sockets, and you will be in an uncontrolled acceleration, not able to "unthrottle". I once accelerated too quickly with my wife riding behind me and she almost flew off the back of the bike. I quickly bought a padded sissy bar for her. THREE - Top Speed - This bike will "talk to you" and make you go faster than any good judgement you have ever had in your life. I still cannot believe that I used to ride this thing at 140 miles per hour (twice a 70mph speed limit). Why? Because the bike told me to. At that speed, the dotted lines on the road visually turn into one SOLID line, and you overtake cars in the distance in seconds. Brother, I know this bike. I am glad you are experiencing the fun of this bike. HOWEVER, get rid of it soon so you can count yourself as a survivor of this bike.... like me.
I agree with your "dislikes". It certainly is a beast of a machine that's wanting to kill you. You're right about all those things... But there's something about the danger and thrill that's alluring. It's true the bike wants you to go fast. Perhaps it would be wise to separate myself from this bike but I can't yet. It's such an incredible machine and the more time I spend with it, the more I appreciate it.
I know where you are coming from. I had to let it run out of revs only once. you learn to grip throttle full pull is 0 throttle. you need great ab muscle to lean into it up to 5 th
LOL You guys are a bunch of tools. Like Al Bundy lamenting his old high school football glory days. Reality check! The V65 has less rear wheel hp than my 2022 Versys 1000 and weighs about the same. In fact Versys has more power and torque through rev range but tops out at lower rpm. Plenty of power for my needs but not rip your arms out of sockets unless you have little bird arms. By today's standards V65 is nothing special with mediocre handling compared to modern sport touring. The V65 has poor weight distribution on front wheel and one of the reasons the front end likes to lift. It's not the immense power bike in the present day standard.😂 Admittedly owning a piece of history is cool but things change and surely for the better. Parts availability is going to be a challenge. I prefer to not have any more carbs to fiddle with and rider safety aids to help keep you from dying by making stupid mistakes. Plus I have no fears of cams churning into butter. Then there is poor head light illumination and that tail light. Ughhh
I just got my 83 v45 Magna up and running, the engine is a little daunting at first but it really isn't any more complex than a lot of modern bikes. The cam issue seems to have a lot of conflicting information on what is the cause of it all, and why it happens. Dave Dodge makes the best oil kit for the bike from what I read. Mine currently does not have it and is about to turn 20k miles, but I am planning to do it for peace of mind in the future. Good oil and changing it often though is probably the most important thing to do.
For sure, regular oil changes are the simplest way to prolong the cam life. I'm not entirely sure - so take this with a grain of salt, but I think the cam issue was less prevalent in the v45's. Also I do think with more certainty that Dave Dodge oil kit is the way to go. It's what I'm probably going to use later for mine.
I put almost 40k on my V65, until my brother and Bambi had an unplanned meet up. My 65 was everything I hoped it would be, and more. At 143 mph in Nevada, with throttle left, I realized the bike was more manly than I was. It would cruise at 125 without a whimper. And, the power. Right now. You better hold on, you're not joking about that. I'm on my 8th bike, and there's just something about the 65 that I didn't find in any other bike I've owned. The algorithm brought me by, I'm glad it did.
I've owned several 1st gen. V4 Hondas. There are several forums where you can gleam a ton of information from long-time fellow owners. Now as to the cam issues.... The cam hardness wasn't the main problem causing their failure, as Honda used similarly manufactured cams on countless other models without any issues. The problem is with how the cams were oiled and the way the heads were machined. The most common solution to the cam problem is to increase oil flow to the cams. There are several aftermarket mods that reroute additional oil to the heads by using an adapter that bypasses some of the clean oil as it exits the filter and sends it directly to the heads, via 2 steal braided oil lines externally connected to the oil passages on the heads. As far as I'm aware none who has performed such a mod has experienced worn cam issues.
The carbs are a pain to install . Cock the carb holders and spray them with WD40. Then wrap a ratcheting tie down around the top of the carbs and around the lower part of the frame. You will go nuts if you try to push the carbs on otherwise.
I caught myself staring at it again just a minute ago. Haha! How do you like that ST1300? I have a buddy that owns an ST1100 and absolutely loves that bike.
@@da_garage383 I love it. Been riding V4s since 91. Wrecked my daily rider V65 Sabre back in October 2011 when a BDC made a right turn from the left lane. Guess who was in the right lane at the time? Progressive totalled my bike. Took me 10 months to heal. Two weeks after being cleared for full duty I bought a 2000 ST1100. Great bike, but I still had my sights set on a ST1300. Rode the ST1100 for 4 years before I finally picked up a ST1300. Got to admit, I'm getting spoiled with fuel injection.
This was my dream bike when I was about 24 ( just like yours) , I purchased it from a Doctor who always rode them then sold them. I have since purchased another one (maroon) I let them sit for about 5 years , now I'm dealing with carb issues and rust in tank. I just started one today and hope that the additives with work through the carbs. The Maroon one is needing carb work as the gas is simply flowing like a line is broken. It's by far my favorite bike and I wanted to thank you for your video.
I hope that helps clean out the build up so you have a rideable Sabre. Sounds like after sitting for so many years the rubber hoses got brittle and cracked? Anyway, I'm glad you enjoyed my video!
@@michaelha7 You said you started one the other day and hope the additives work through the carbs. I'm agreeing with you - I hope that does the trick so you'll have a rideable Sabre.
I’ve owned 2 V65 magnas and one V65 Sabre. The carbs in and out are terrible, and if you work on them, it’s important to know jetting and needle clip position are different on front and rear banks. So make sure and keep the jets and needles with the carbs they came out of. Loved all the bikes, but the Sabre was my favorite, vey unique.
I started riding Honda's in 1971. I owned an '85 V-65 Sabre like yours for about 10 years, and can relate to most of your views on the bike. currently i have a Honda ST 1100 v-4 and it replaced the Sabre. Two things i would like to add to the negative list is, poor brakes, ( given the speed ability of the bike) and no wind protection, ( yes its a naked bike, i know) so #2 complaint of mine is nit picking. I would suggest doing the oil modification if you wanna keep the bike for a long time. Otherwise, you are correct, the bike has power to spare, and i would add the gearing is perfect too. Something to think about, is yes the bike is a little more difficult to work on than a inline 4, but its the easiest v-4 to work of all the Honda's, so get a manual and take your time. You are young, you got time ! meanwhile, Enjoy, cuz you will never see the likes of this bike ever again, brand new !
Great video!!! Yesterday I found Honda sabre v65 1100cc 1984 for sale. I don't know anything about mileage yet, I'm Polish and bike will stay with me in Europe, but I'm very afraid about access to the parts, and most confusing think for me is those engine issues. So I'm wondering when Honda did improve oil system? Can't find any information about that, and the last thing for me would be starting with repairing instead driving :)
Thank you! I'm not an expert on these bikes but I've heard a few things. I don't know if it's 100% accurate but I'm told the later models (around 84' 85') had the oil system improved. My experience with parts has been good for mechanical parts but bad for cosmetic parts. So hopefully the bike is in good cosmetic shape as well!
So I just bought an 85' vf700 sabre as a beginner bike, bit that's only because it was a steal! Do you have any advice for a beginner with this kind of bike?
Nice, they're fun bikes! I don't really have advice specific to that bike but since you said a beginner bike I'm assuming you haven't ridden before or have ridden very little. I'd say get familiar with your controls and how they feel - each bike is a little different. Get comfortable with slow maneuvers and proper braking to a stop. It's much easier to go fast. Since we aren't racing motorcycles gaining skill at high speeds isn't too important. Riding on public roads and with traffic you'll find most of the time you aren't going very fast. The riding experience is more enjoyable when you become comfortable with low speed maneuvers because with daily life, you'll be doing them often.
Have you seen the new(ish) Sabre? It looks way more like the Magna but is called a Sabre. Weird. Personally, I don't like it. I'd rather go with an original Sabre or Magna.
I bought an 84 in 92 it was wrecked I fixed it I drove it for 98,000 miles and it was invincible. I drove it from Portland OR to boulder Co in one day and my average speed was 107 it did it like it was routine. The best motorcycle I've ever owned. I ran Castrol syntec change the oil regularly adjusted the valves never had a problem with it
would you say the 82' vf750 sabres suffer from the same chocolate cams issue? I'm looking at picking one up but hearing you talk about the camshafts reputation has me worried
Yes they do because they share the same engine design as the V65. Later models are a safer bet than earlier models but the upper oiling and cam issue may apply to all of them. Unfortunately it seems to be hit or miss whether it's a good engine or a bad one. Some owners have reported having zero issues running 100k+ miles on these engines no problems, no cam issues. Other owners report the cam issue occurring as early as 30k miles and needing replaced multiple times through the bikes life. As much as I like these bikes I'd say if you're worried about the cam issue then it would probably be wise to look at other bikes. If I may make a recommendation sticking with Honda - I'd say check out a 3rd or 4th gen VFR 750. It uses a V4 engine just like the VF750 but since the chocolate cams hurt Honda's reputation they decided to over-engineer the VFR's. The result is a bullet proof engine with owners claiming to get over 250k miles with no problems. I really want a 93' VFR. They're fantastic bikes and you can pick them up for around $3K - $5k. When I get one, I'll make a video on it!
Someday, sooner than you think, when your body is starting to fall apart, you will have a whole new appreciation of this bike, at its age. I had an V-65 Sabre ( Blue stripe version) for 10 years, and i did my own valve adjustments, and my cams were fine. But i still did an oil mod, cuz its cheap insurance. But remember, not all of the bikes have bad cams if it was taken care of, although the later years and Sabre's were better in the cam luck, than the Magna version.
To address dislike number one look up the upper cylinder oil kit. It attaches to the engine at the oil filter and feeds oil to the heads. I put one on my 84 V65 Sabre after my cams and rocker arms so there should be no more problems.
My first bike was a v45 sabre loved it but sold it after few yrs for my first HD.sold it to my bud and he wiped it out fortunately he was ok.found a v65 yrs later for 1500$ and got a few seasons out of it b4 the front head went or a valve or whatever im not a mech.but anyway loved those bikes such good memories!
My biggest problem with this bike is that my son wants to take it away from me. I have been looking for him for so long and I am very glad that while I am writing a comment, he is waiting for me in the garage. he can easily kill for disrespect, give joy, and I will always remember how he saved my life 08/09/2020. (Google translation)
I have one for sale near me right now. Super clean with one small dent in tank. 20k mi and asking $2200. Carbs just rebuilt. What are your thoughts? I worry about it being too much bike for me or parts becoming extinct bc of its age and rarity but I agree it's a gorgeous looking bike. It keeps making me come back to it
I think that sounds like a good deal. It's a lot of bike for a good price! I picked mine up for $2,400 at 12k miles. Clean but not completely cosmetically perfect and had recently rebuilt carbs. So yours sounds like a fair price. I haven't had issues with finding mechanical parts, but it has been difficult finding correct body panels and cosmetic parts. I love this bike anyway, it's so much fun.
My buddy and I who both had 85 V65 Sabres, were aware of the camshaft lubrication problem and installed a kit that routed more oil to the heads. Took a few knuckle-scraping hours to do the job. My bike had 20,000 miles on it, to which I added 40,000 more trouble-free miles. But one day on a lonely road in the mountains about 50 miles south of Bluefield, West Virginia, the V65 just quit running. Not a cam problem, but a large blown fuse, which shut down the entire electrical system. This I only learned after hitching a ride to the Greyhound Bus station in Bluefield for a midnight trip back home to North Carolina, where I later had the bike trucked to a Honda dealership. In frustration, I sold the bike shortly thereafter but regretted that decision for years.
@@da_garage383 Yep, that was it, the largest, most essential fuse in the bike. Should have travelled with a spare but never occurred to me, nor would I have likely guessed the problem. Honda mechanic figured it out, but after all the hassle I just sold the bike. Regrettably. Every time I sat on that beast and fired it up, the old NASA expression would come to mind: "Huston, we have ignition." LOL
Bought 2 off these in 1987 ,leftover units still in their crates , in Tulsa OK . Dealer put together and I picked up that afternoon and took them back to NH,paid $3,050.00 for each . had them about 2 yrs unbelievably fast topped out mine at 172mph , wife ran hers to 150mph . stayed planted firm on the high way ,smooth shaft drive and sweet power band. Now 35yrs later I still see them advertised at 3k
Currently it's a good time to buy them up. I picked mine up for $2,400. I think the Sabre is really cool, but I don't know if it'll ever be considered a classic that shoots up in value.
I'm not sure if they make a V65 specific full exhaust, but if you want some great sound check out a 4 into 1 Mac header with a glasspack muffler. Sounds like a little V8! I think it's what I'm going to do on mine.
I have a few V65 Sabres and V65 Magna's. One of my Sabres has the Honda Line fairing. I see yours did to at one time the fuse box and round headlight give it away. I want to remove the fairing on mine and install the rectangle head light not the round one. I've had these bikes since the early 80's.
I bought a new left over 1985 V65 Sabre in 1986. Put on 80K miles, sold it to a guy at work he took it to ~130K miles. before the drive shaft splines stripped. Never cam problems, I never had the carbs out, only problem was an ignition box. Other then that oil, tires, brakes. I believe with todays superior oils, Just use a MA rated oil and you'll have no problems. I moved on to a CBR1100XX after the 65. Even more quick, fast, lighter, better handling.
Great review!! I have a near mint 1984 V65 Magna love it !! Did you change the square headlight out ?? I remember sitting on one at the Honda/Yamaha shop when it was brand new I was 14 In 1984 these bike were my dream machines (1) V65 Magna (2)1985 V Max (3) 1984 V65 Sabre …..Gotta like the 1983-1986 Shadows as well !!No offense to the newer one just like the older ones better …..just my opinion……
Thank you, I'm glad you liked it! The previous owner switched the headlight. I like it, but I think I like the look of the square headlight with the small fairing more, so someday I might switch it back it OE. I agree, I like the older ones much better. I would have loved to have been in your shoes at that time to see those bikes brand new on a show room floor. That sounds amazing.
Love the videos keep them coming….Maybe one day you can take my V65 Magna for a review give both sides about what you like ,and dislike about each one that would be a cool video brother !! Park both bikes next to each other cleaned up !!talk about a blast from the past on 2 of the baddest bikes on the planet 🌎 even still today loved ,and respected by most riders gotta love them both ……
@@rockyarchambeau5820 Thank you, my friend. That's a great idea - I'm going to have to make that video someday. Hopefully sooner than later because I think it would be a lot of fun riding and comparing them both. People would definitely like to see those two monster machines next to each other.
They're both big powerful machines with loads of torque but the Sabre is faster, smoother and more refined. I miss the Yamaha though. It was fun to ride on, had a mean exhaust sound and is a timeless classic motorcycle.
Is there a shop anywhere for these bikes, no one here in southern Illinois that I can find will, I just spent $2000 on a pretty rough V65, I've done some carb cleaning and exhaust stuff but now you got me worried about cams lol
These are such cool machines but that's another downside to them. Because they're getting old and uncommon it's going to be hard to find anyone that knows how to work on them. How many miles do you have on yours? If you're below 20k miles and you don't hear chatter coming from the heads you should be fine.
@@lonewolf6175 Everything that I've read states that people experiencing worn out cams happen between 20k - 30k miles. It sounds bad, but the silver lining is that it shouldn't cause any sort of catastrophic engine failure when it occurs. Do you have any history on the bike? The chocolate cam issue has been known for a very long time so it might be possible that they we're already taken care of. Also does it idle rough when cold, or warm? If the cams are worn it should make more ticking noise when cold. I'm kinda thinking your bike might just need a proper tune up.
I bought a low mileage used Sabre V45 from a Honda dealer in 1986. It was a speed monster too. But it had a terrible wobble from 50 to 65 mph. Not good with the 55 mph National speed limit. I brought it back to the dealer and then went through it thoroughly but couldn't fix it. Needless to say I just rode through the wobble and kept my speed above 65.
Hey mate, why don't you address the "chocolate" cam problem right now? You mentioned larger oil lines and stronger cams, personally I would be right onto it and replacing these items before the inevitable failure you mentioned, great video brother,after watching this a Sabre is definately in my sights.
Hey, thanks for the comment. Looks like I will be addressing the cam issue now. Maybe. She isn't running very well at the moment and I'm not sure what's wrong - might be the chocolate cams. I've torn into it a little bit but haven't pulled the heads off yet. Regaurdless it needs some mainteneance so I might just do that preventative stuff now.
I had a v65 in the 80s. The only thing I disliked was around 120 mph the front end would shake and then at 122 mph it would stop. It was unnerving and I never really got used to that.
Perhaps it was a suspension issue or the front tire? ever so slightly out of balance? I probably shouldn't admit it but I've ridden at that speed and above many times without any shaking or wobbling.
you prob shouldnt have bought a cruiser if you dont like the upright position :D .. how do you find the bike to lean etc at slow speeds .. is it heavy ?
The first time I saw one of these I knew I had to get it. Seating position is an extremely minor concern - preference actually. This seating position is better for most general purposes. For me I don't find any difficulties turning at low speeds and that's probably because I'm used to riding heavy bikes. I don't find it to be any more challenging than other bikes I've ridden.
I’ve never ridden one of these but I’ve ridden a buddy’s early Yamaha V-Max which is similarly “tall” and similarly known to be not so agile in the curves. I’ve owned two 3rd gen Magna VF750’s (an ‘01 and a ‘96) and have put about 4,000 miles under my butt on them. These 3rd gen Magna’s are the ones that double as 10,000 rpm red-line hot-rods on the straights and very nimble handling thru the twisties. The key to the 3rd gen’s better handling in the curves is the lower center of gravity due to a nearly 2 inch lowered seat height from the previous Magna generations. The higher center of gravity on the previous generations is what made those bikes less agile in the cornering department. That two inch lower center of gravity on the later generation Magna is the key to its better handling capabilities and makes all the difference in the world.
Supposedly they were fixed from around 85' and on however I haven't found hard evidence of that. Just people on forums stating later V65's had the cam issue resolved. So, that might be accurate information but I don't know for certain.
Never let a V45 or 65 engine idle. Maintain high oil pressure and flow: look for power before torque. Never ever cruise at less than 4,000rpm and the cams will last forever. Also: have a firm grip with both hands on the bars, dont even think of waving one hand while riding, this would kill you.
the only way to fix the v65 cam issue is to get a set of hard faced cams from mega cycle. the issue with the bikes from the start was the fact that the facing on the cams was not hard enough. honda came out with many service bulletins and special tools that did nothing. the oil mod kit does almost nothing for a v65 but rather more suited for the v45
The look you gave the bike at the end is something all bikers can relate to. And I think it’s a rare thing for someone to look back at their bike and think geez what a piece of crap. Lol.
I almost got a Magna. One was for sale locally when I was looking to buy but it's condition wasn't so good. The Sabre is a little more my style so when I saw a clean one come up for sale, I had to get it.
Awesome video I stole mine old man don't ride anymore his kids already have bikes and he didn't want it sitting around I snagged it up for 300 I had to have it once in a lifetime deal I have been looking for another bike for a while our oldest son has a Honda cbr600rr so I figured why not go with a Honda as well no she's not a cbr600rr but she's just as fun
It's not quite like a modern street bike, but it does just about everything well - Good comfort, handling and power. Plus it's becoming a classic so it's definitely worth hanging on to!
@@MrDjh66 I believe the V45 has somewhere around 80hp which is still a very healthy number! People I've talked to that have ridden and owned the V45 loved it.
I bought one new out of the crate in 1984 and it's the closest thing to sex on two wheels. I'm 6'6 and I changed the seat to fit my body. The bike will do what the speedo show's. I lived my life in the red line, and drove it coast to coast. Kept it 20 years and we parted ways with it going to a new owner.
Sounds similar to the previous owner of my Sabre. He loved the bike and wanted to keep it. He had a lot of memorable rides with it, but his eye sight is going bad. So he finally sold it but was at least happy to sell it someone that would take care of it and make good memories with it. I certainly do love this bike. Great machine.
Your old bike's mufflers were old school aftermarket not stock.. Putting a set of slip ons on that V4 will quickly make it sound like a NASCAR engine, especially if you run titanium. High octane fuel doesn't burn cooler, it burns slower.. unless you are talking about methanol. Also they don't make that much torque, only 65 ft lbs... what helps a lot is they actually have V-tech.
Although I don't think they called it v-tec yet, but yeah I remember that with my magna, just shy of 7000rpms the bike would go from smooth power to nearly ripping your arms off. Best part was that my magna was geared so that every gear after 1st was geared to put you right at 7,000 if you redlined before shifting, so you could hold that peak power all the way through to overdrive and make everyone around you disappear in your mirrors.
Right. It's getting more challenging to find parts. Thankfully so far mechanical parts have mostly been easy to find. The cosmetic parts have been terrible to get. Color matching fenders are almost non-existent.
Mine has over 70,000 miles on it and I have another one that has over 50 so I wouldn't worry about the camshafts on these I think they had it sorted out by the time they made these bikes I think the problem was more on the 82 sabers and 83 the v45s the problem also did not play the really small ones the 500cc models
There was another lad that said the same thing about older models having the cam issue resolved which is great to not have to worry about. Thanks for sharing!
You want a 0-to Oooo s**t acceleration, speed and noise? Grab a 1968-69 2-stroke 3 cyl Kawasaki H1 Mach III 500 or H2 750. A fuel dragster on two wheels. Unfortunately, it wouldn't stop, turn or act anywhere near as well mannered or safe as your Honda. I accidentally popped a wheelie at 70+ when passing a car on the freeway when I first bought it. Scared the hell out of me and the cars nearby. 5,000 to 10,000 in the blink of an eye, shift, back at 5,000 for the next launch. From Wikipedia: The bike had both detractors and enthusiastic fans, who either complained of poor handling and tendency to wheelie, or praised the power, light weight, and tendency to wheelie.[5] For inexperienced riders the two-stroke engine's suddenly increasing power curve, with little response until a rush of power about 5,000 rpm, contributed to this unexpected liftoff of the front wheel, creating "fearsome reputation".[7] The Mach III became known to its critics as "dangerous for inexperienced riders".[1]
Those bikes are absolutely bonkers. The burst of acceleration both scares and thrills me. Like, I know they're dangerous, but I want more. Haha! My dad talks about a buddy of his back in the late 70's with a 2 stroke, 3 cylinder 900 Kawasaki. Do you know about that bike? He doesn't remember what it was called.
@@da_garage383 Not aware of a 900. My 500 was too dangerous for me. I sold it after trying to make a touring bike out of it (which only a dumba** 18 year old would do). It seized up three times on a Yosemite trip in the 100 degree summer. Rattled like old tomato cans, but got me home. That is when I learned the oil injection system was too fragile and prone to clogging. But it was a perfect Saturday night (American Grafitty style) street racer. As long as it was kept in a straight run with plenty of room to bring it to a stop.
I’m a motorcycle mechanic for 50 years. The trick to getting the carbs back on after a cleaning is to angle the carb holders and spray them with WD40. Then strap a ratcheting tie down across the carbs and the bottom of the frame. Trust me it works as you will drive yourself nuts trying to push the carbs into the heads!
Awesome, thanks for the feedback. For this and the comment about the oiling kit.
He is right my family has been in the mechanic business since 79. Imo the worst intake boots were on Yamahas. The viragos and viagras. I hated those things.
Just look how GORGEOUS and timeless the V65 Sabre looks. Its perfection !
So many people ride these like they're V twins, and never really understand the bike. These bikes pull right up to redline, and love doing it. the sweetest spot torque wise is usually between 7 and 8k, that should tell you how it wants to be ridden :D
Great video. The Yamaha sounds awesome and I agree that the VF1100s deserved a more aggressive sound.
However the V65 stock would absolutely eat everything else out there of the era. I owned one for several years in the early 90s a 2,000 miles 85 model.
Unbelievable power and has to be felt to believe.
To this day it's still a ferocious bike! I did some work to my Yamaha - Pod filters, stage 3 jet kit, clutch and a tune. Made it faster, but still I can feel that the Sabre would easily pull ahead. Especially above 7,000rpm. It's a rocket when you get in it's powerband.
Excellent video! Really good seeing you get more used to being on camera. I can tell you’re much more comfortable in front of the lens than you were in your first video
Thank you! Yes, that's definitely taken some getting used to - talking to a camera. I'm feeling more comfortable and not so rigid anymore. I'm trying to become a better presenter.
When you must take out the carburetors for a proper cleaning and overhaull, you can add the 6th thing you hate about this bike...no big deal, with practice, 6 to 8 hours and a lot of bad words. Greetings from Costa Rica!!!
I've had four of the v65 Sabres and one v65 magna. One Sabre was a 1984(my favorite) and the rest 85's. A proper running example still amazes today. My 84 was my best example and was a very low mileage bike. I am on the search for another now. Great video. 👍
Wow, that's quite the collection! Was there anything different about your 84' Sabre compared to the 85's?
@@da_garage383 Not that I remember other than the color.
I am in love with the Honda V4. I have a 2001 Magna and it's just so nice. Glad to hear your opinion of the gen 3 motor is "bulletproof". I just crested 5k on the odometer, so I can't wait to ride it forever! A part of me wants a V65 Magna or Sabre, but I need to finish my current GS850 project before I get another to fix up.
I have an '84 Sabre V65..... Bought it about 5 years ago and had to travel to get it, but well worth it !!! The bike is comfortable to me, with crash bars and extra footpegs out front to stretch your legs.... But, man, what a beast !!!!! I love the fact that I have a bike that nobody else in our area has and not just another black Harley... lol... Also, my wife loves riding on this one, as we have the luggage rack/backrest and a trunk to store stuff.
Excellent observation, m8, congrats on your Ronda, I got 750s, look for v65. Cheers!
I had 1985 V65, it was an absolute beast, I loved it. I used to do 140+MPH on highways, you're hugging the gas tank so the wind doesn't blow your off, you can only see a small window in front as the sides are blurred, yes ludicrous speed.
Your right I would lay on the gas tank with my feet in the passenger pegs pushing myself forward...ha ha...those were the days ☺️
To fix the oilflow issue. Drill out the ends of the oil flow tube to round, not triangle.
My dad had a ton of these, his main gripe was that he thought it needed a slightly longer swingarm to help handling, and get the power down without lifting so much. of all the V45's 65's Manga's and Sabre's he had through the years(a different one every few months), his favorite was one of the later V65's Sabre's for longer trips, he'd rid ethe 45's short rides, and Interceptor for sporty rides. These are definitely going to be collectable bikes soon.
I replaced the original handlebars on my 84, with 1.5" rise bars and greatly improved the seating position. Also pulled the baffles out of the exhaust pipes. I don't remember if after market pipes existed at the time. I think I remember some F1 slip-ons but went the cheap route. It made my ears happy.
I had a 1985 out of the box in 1987. I was in love. It felt like a rocket ship in 6th. Smooth as silk and would growl in 5th like a tiger. It did have you sitting upright, but at 5’9” it was a good fit and on the Highway I would use the back pegs to get horizontal at high speeds. I could duck my face behind the gauges and fly. This bike was sold with a big fairing if you wanted it, but I’ve only seen a few. The fairing was Sabre specific. I paid 2,200 plus my ragged out kz650 trade in. Problems? Yes. The plastic was not the best and the back tail section had to be rigged tight by me. It had a wiring flaw and the bike might go dark if it rained. The cat liked clawing my seat on a regular basis. Can’t tell you how many seats I bought. I tried running it over, but fast cat. Also, the main fuse would pop, so I carried one. The carbs gunked out on me in 2007. I’m not a mechanic, but Reno Honda charged me a fortune to get it running, only to die a few weeks later. Then it sat. The bike had 12 k miles in 2012, but Honda said they would not work on it and I should get rid of it. Incompetent losers and I regret selling it. Funny, I sold it for 2,200.
Hell of a history! Lol the bike could be a movie. You know you can still find these used for a real good price. Of course it’s going to be 2200. 🙃lol
I bought an '84 V65 Sabre when I was 17 for $2200, and it had 2,000 miles on it. The 1st owner was 5'9" and had trouble with balancing the bike at stops. I'm 6'1", so I had no issues. Still remember running it to a buck 40 on the country roads - it did it so easily. Only got one ticket for 47/30 in the city. Since I worked at a Honda/BMW/Suzuki dealer at the parts counter, I was able to get a good price on the matching black/burgundy/gray Hondaline fairing, and had one of the mechanics in back install it. Only issue I had was the 3-wire regulator plug shorted-out (vibration), so I had to repair the connector. I kept it for 3 years and sold it w/19k miles on it, because I needed a car for my college internship.
What a great review. I'm currently riding a Kawasaki Vulcan 1500, and a Yamaha Stryker 1300, but have my eyes on an '84 V65 Magna. I'm so close to pulling the trigger, but I don't have the room for it. I should sell one of my bikes first. I've owned lots of Hondas in the past including the CB750, and 3 Interceptors, the 1000 being my favorite and this is like an 1100 Interceptor, only more comfy so I KNOW I'd adore it.
I had this bike with the racing fairing. I disagree with all of your dislikes. You don't complain about a 40 year old bike. This bike was the most amazing motorcycle I have ever owned, and I still think about it 40 years later. It was the competition to the fastest accelerating bike in the world at the time - the Yamaha VMAX! HOWEVER! There is one severe dislike I had with this bike. Ready??.... This bike will kill you. One - It is a heavy monster. The bike once slipped on some sand at a stop sign. I came down on me at a stop. It was so heavy that my big toe was shattered while trying to hold it up. Two - Acceleration. The bike accelerates with such power that if you crank the throttle to0 fast, the bike will rip your arms out of their sockets, and you will be in an uncontrolled acceleration, not able to "unthrottle". I once accelerated too quickly with my wife riding behind me and she almost flew off the back of the bike. I quickly bought a padded sissy bar for her. THREE - Top Speed - This bike will "talk to you" and make you go faster than any good judgement you have ever had in your life. I still cannot believe that I used to ride this thing at 140 miles per hour (twice a 70mph speed limit). Why? Because the bike told me to. At that speed, the dotted lines on the road visually turn into one SOLID line, and you overtake cars in the distance in seconds. Brother, I know this bike. I am glad you are experiencing the fun of this bike. HOWEVER, get rid of it soon so you can count yourself as a survivor of this bike.... like me.
I agree with your "dislikes". It certainly is a beast of a machine that's wanting to kill you. You're right about all those things... But there's something about the danger and thrill that's alluring. It's true the bike wants you to go fast. Perhaps it would be wise to separate myself from this bike but I can't yet. It's such an incredible machine and the more time I spend with it, the more I appreciate it.
I know where you are coming from. I had to let it run out of revs only once. you learn to grip throttle full pull is 0 throttle. you need great ab muscle to lean into it up to 5 th
LOL You guys are a bunch of tools. Like Al Bundy lamenting his old high school football glory days.
Reality check! The V65 has less rear wheel hp than my 2022 Versys 1000 and weighs about the same. In fact Versys has more power and torque through rev range but tops out at lower rpm. Plenty of power for my needs but not rip your arms out of sockets unless you have little bird arms. By today's standards V65 is nothing special with mediocre handling compared to modern sport touring. The V65 has poor weight distribution on front wheel and one of the reasons the front end likes to lift. It's not the immense power bike in the present day standard.😂
Admittedly owning a piece of history is cool but things change and surely for the better. Parts availability is going to be a challenge. I prefer to not have any more carbs to fiddle with and rider safety aids to help keep you from dying by making stupid mistakes. Plus I have no fears of cams churning into butter. Then there is poor head light illumination and that tail light. Ughhh
I just got my 83 v45 Magna up and running, the engine is a little daunting at first but it really isn't any more complex than a lot of modern bikes. The cam issue seems to have a lot of conflicting information on what is the cause of it all, and why it happens. Dave Dodge makes the best oil kit for the bike from what I read. Mine currently does not have it and is about to turn 20k miles, but I am planning to do it for peace of mind in the future. Good oil and changing it often though is probably the most important thing to do.
For sure, regular oil changes are the simplest way to prolong the cam life. I'm not entirely sure - so take this with a grain of salt, but I think the cam issue was less prevalent in the v45's. Also I do think with more certainty that Dave Dodge oil kit is the way to go. It's what I'm probably going to use later for mine.
Honestly I've found that people that babied the bike had the most problems let her rip Rev her up ask her for the power she has😉
Nicely done vid. Those old V4s were so cool, shame people didn't respect them and left them to rot. Not many nice ones like yours around.
Thank you! It does seem a bit odd that more people don't know about these old V4's. It's a fantastic powerplant even in todays standards.
I put almost 40k on my V65, until my brother and Bambi had an unplanned meet up.
My 65 was everything I hoped it would be, and more. At 143 mph in Nevada, with throttle left, I realized the bike was more manly than I was.
It would cruise at 125 without a whimper.
And, the power. Right now. You better hold on, you're not joking about that.
I'm on my 8th bike, and there's just something about the 65 that I didn't find in any other bike I've owned.
The algorithm brought me by, I'm glad it did.
Thanks for the comment! Yes, the V65 is an astonishing powerplant. You could go fast as hell or just simply cruise for miles.
I've owned several 1st gen. V4 Hondas. There are several forums where you can gleam a ton of information from long-time fellow owners. Now as to the cam issues.... The cam hardness wasn't the main problem causing their failure, as Honda used similarly manufactured cams on countless other models without any issues. The problem is with how the cams were oiled and the way the heads were machined. The most common solution to the cam problem is to increase oil flow to the cams. There are several aftermarket mods that reroute additional oil to the heads by using an adapter that bypasses some of the clean oil as it exits the filter and sends it directly to the heads, via 2 steal braided oil lines externally connected to the oil passages on the heads. As far as I'm aware none who has performed such a mod has experienced worn cam issues.
The carbs are a pain to install . Cock the carb holders and spray them with WD40. Then wrap a ratcheting tie down around the top of the carbs and around the lower part of the frame. You will go nuts if you try to push the carbs on otherwise.
"I turn around and stare at it" 😉
Agreed. Beautiful bike. Still got a few however riding a ST1300 mostly now.
I caught myself staring at it again just a minute ago. Haha! How do you like that ST1300? I have a buddy that owns an ST1100 and absolutely loves that bike.
@@da_garage383 I love it. Been riding V4s since 91. Wrecked my daily rider V65 Sabre back in October 2011 when a BDC made a right turn from the left lane. Guess who was in the right lane at the time? Progressive totalled my bike. Took me 10 months to heal. Two weeks after being cleared for full duty I bought a 2000 ST1100. Great bike, but I still had my sights set on a ST1300. Rode the ST1100 for 4 years before I finally picked up a ST1300. Got to admit, I'm getting spoiled with fuel injection.
This was my dream bike when I was about 24 ( just like yours) , I purchased it from a Doctor who always rode them then sold them. I have since purchased another one (maroon) I let them sit for about 5 years , now I'm dealing with carb issues and rust in tank. I just started one today and hope that the additives with work through the carbs. The Maroon one is needing carb work as the gas is simply flowing like a line is broken. It's by far my favorite bike and I wanted to thank you for your video.
I hope that helps clean out the build up so you have a rideable Sabre. Sounds like after sitting for so many years the rubber hoses got brittle and cracked? Anyway, I'm glad you enjoyed my video!
@@da_garage383 hope what helps clean out the build up? did i miss a reply? thanks again.
@@michaelha7 You said you started one the other day and hope the additives work through the carbs. I'm agreeing with you - I hope that does the trick so you'll have a rideable Sabre.
I’ve owned 2 V65 magnas and one V65 Sabre. The carbs in and out are terrible, and if you work on them, it’s important to know jetting and needle clip position are different on front and rear banks. So make sure and keep the jets and needles with the carbs they came out of.
Loved all the bikes, but the Sabre was my favorite, vey unique.
I started riding Honda's in 1971. I owned an '85 V-65 Sabre like yours for about 10 years, and can relate to most of your views on the bike. currently i have a Honda ST 1100 v-4 and it replaced the Sabre. Two things i would like to add to the negative list is, poor brakes, ( given the speed ability of the bike) and no wind protection, ( yes its a naked bike, i know) so #2 complaint of mine is nit picking. I would suggest doing the oil modification if you wanna keep the bike for a long time. Otherwise, you are correct, the bike has power to spare, and i would add the gearing is perfect too. Something to think about, is yes the bike is a little more difficult to work on than a inline 4, but its the easiest v-4 to work of all the Honda's, so get a manual and take your time. You are young, you got time ! meanwhile, Enjoy, cuz you will never see the likes of this bike ever again, brand new !
They did make a Sabre fairing, but few bought it.
@@joegibson6041 , yeah it was a rare option, compared to newer Honda models.
Great video!!! Yesterday I found Honda sabre v65 1100cc 1984 for sale. I don't know anything about mileage yet, I'm Polish and bike will stay with me in Europe, but I'm very afraid about access to the parts, and most confusing think for me is those engine issues. So I'm wondering when Honda did improve oil system? Can't find any information about that, and the last thing for me would be starting with repairing instead driving :)
Thank you! I'm not an expert on these bikes but I've heard a few things. I don't know if it's 100% accurate but I'm told the later models (around 84' 85') had the oil system improved. My experience with parts has been good for mechanical parts but bad for cosmetic parts. So hopefully the bike is in good cosmetic shape as well!
Youve got a fine specemin there bro. A diamond in the rough. Ride safe 👍
Cool video... I have had two of the V65 Magna and you are correct this is one heck of an engine. 👍👍
Thank you! Yes that V65 is a hoot!
I owned 12 v65 bikes. I never had an engine failure.
So I just bought an 85' vf700 sabre as a beginner bike, bit that's only because it was a steal! Do you have any advice for a beginner with this kind of bike?
Nice, they're fun bikes! I don't really have advice specific to that bike but since you said a beginner bike I'm assuming you haven't ridden before or have ridden very little. I'd say get familiar with your controls and how they feel - each bike is a little different. Get comfortable with slow maneuvers and proper braking to a stop. It's much easier to go fast. Since we aren't racing motorcycles gaining skill at high speeds isn't too important. Riding on public roads and with traffic you'll find most of the time you aren't going very fast. The riding experience is more enjoyable when you become comfortable with low speed maneuvers because with daily life, you'll be doing them often.
I wish they would make a modern version of the magna
Have you seen the new(ish) Sabre? It looks way more like the Magna but is called a Sabre. Weird. Personally, I don't like it. I'd rather go with an original Sabre or Magna.
I bought an 84 in 92 it was wrecked I fixed it I drove it for 98,000 miles and it was invincible. I drove it from Portland OR to boulder Co in one day and my average speed was 107 it did it like it was routine. The best motorcycle I've ever owned. I ran Castrol syntec change the oil regularly adjusted the valves never had a problem with it
would you say the 82' vf750 sabres suffer from the same chocolate cams issue? I'm looking at picking one up but hearing you talk about the camshafts reputation has me worried
Yes they do because they share the same engine design as the V65. Later models are a safer bet than earlier models but the upper oiling and cam issue may apply to all of them. Unfortunately it seems to be hit or miss whether it's a good engine or a bad one. Some owners have reported having zero issues running 100k+ miles on these engines no problems, no cam issues. Other owners report the cam issue occurring as early as 30k miles and needing replaced multiple times through the bikes life. As much as I like these bikes I'd say if you're worried about the cam issue then it would probably be wise to look at other bikes. If I may make a recommendation sticking with Honda - I'd say check out a 3rd or 4th gen VFR 750. It uses a V4 engine just like the VF750 but since the chocolate cams hurt Honda's reputation they decided to over-engineer the VFR's. The result is a bullet proof engine with owners claiming to get over 250k miles with no problems. I really want a 93' VFR. They're fantastic bikes and you can pick them up for around $3K - $5k. When I get one, I'll make a video on it!
Someday, sooner than you think, when your body is starting to fall apart, you will have a whole new appreciation of this bike, at its age. I had an V-65 Sabre ( Blue stripe version) for 10 years, and i did my own valve adjustments, and my cams were fine. But i still did an oil mod, cuz its cheap insurance. But remember, not all of the bikes have bad cams if it was taken care of, although the later years and Sabre's were better in the cam luck, than the Magna version.
To address dislike number one look up the upper cylinder oil kit. It attaches to the engine at the oil filter and feeds oil to the heads. I put one on my 84 V65 Sabre after my cams and rocker arms so there should be no more problems.
My first bike was a v45 sabre loved it but sold it after few yrs for my first HD.sold it to my bud and he wiped it out fortunately he was ok.found a v65 yrs later for 1500$ and got a few seasons out of it b4 the front head went or a valve or whatever im not a mech.but anyway loved those bikes such good memories!
Riding a V65 is an experience that's hard to understand until you actually do it.
Right. The Sabre is like a mix of several different bikes mashed into one. Definitely an experience you just gotta feel.
@@da_garage383 I'm just rocking a 83 V65 Magna.
hang on
My biggest problem with this bike is that my son wants to take it away from me. I have been looking for him for so long and I am very glad that while I am writing a comment, he is waiting for me in the garage. he can easily kill for disrespect, give joy, and I will always remember how he saved my life 08/09/2020. (Google translation)
Great stuff!
Thank you!
I have one for sale near me right now. Super clean with one small dent in tank. 20k mi and asking $2200. Carbs just rebuilt. What are your thoughts? I worry about it being too much bike for me or parts becoming extinct bc of its age and rarity but I agree it's a gorgeous looking bike. It keeps making me come back to it
I think that sounds like a good deal. It's a lot of bike for a good price! I picked mine up for $2,400 at 12k miles. Clean but not completely cosmetically perfect and had recently rebuilt carbs. So yours sounds like a fair price. I haven't had issues with finding mechanical parts, but it has been difficult finding correct body panels and cosmetic parts. I love this bike anyway, it's so much fun.
Add oiling kit runs extra oil lines to head easy to install as well fixes that cam problem I have used them on few of the Honda v4s
My buddy and I who both had 85 V65 Sabres, were aware of the camshaft lubrication problem and installed a kit that routed more oil to the heads. Took a few knuckle-scraping hours to do the job. My bike had 20,000 miles on it, to which I added 40,000 more trouble-free miles. But one day on a lonely road in the mountains about 50 miles south of Bluefield, West Virginia, the V65 just quit running. Not a cam problem, but a large blown fuse, which shut down the entire electrical system. This I only learned after hitching a ride to the Greyhound Bus station in Bluefield for a midnight trip back home to North Carolina, where I later had the bike trucked to a Honda dealership. In frustration, I sold the bike shortly thereafter but regretted that decision for years.
Oh no! So it was just the fuse that went bad?
@@da_garage383 Yep, that was it, the largest, most essential fuse in the bike. Should have travelled with a spare but never occurred to me, nor would I have likely guessed the problem. Honda mechanic figured it out, but after all the hassle I just sold the bike. Regrettably.
Every time I sat on that beast and fired it up, the old NASA expression would come to mind: "Huston, we have ignition." LOL
Thinking of buying one currently. Only 9,500 miles and claims to have an oil mod completed.
If you can buy it, I'd say go for it. Even if it didn't have that mod with such low miles it'll be worry free for years. That mod is a big plus too!
I have one of these bikes. The best thing to do is the oiling mod. Very easy
Can you recommend a tutorial, or is there a anywhere I can find more information on this? Thanks.
Bought 2 off these in 1987 ,leftover units still in their crates , in Tulsa OK . Dealer put together and I picked up that afternoon and took them back to NH,paid $3,050.00 for each . had them about 2 yrs unbelievably fast topped out mine at 172mph , wife ran hers to 150mph . stayed planted firm on the high way ,smooth shaft drive and sweet power band. Now 35yrs later I still see them advertised at 3k
Currently it's a good time to buy them up. I picked mine up for $2,400. I think the Sabre is really cool, but I don't know if it'll ever be considered a classic that shoots up in value.
@@da_garage383 It should be, only made for 2 years.
WHERE CAN I FIND A CARB REBUILD KIT FOR THIS BIKE, I have a 84 saber and can’t find one
There's a lot on eBay
Do you know if kerker makes an exhaust for the saber ?
I'm not sure if they make a V65 specific full exhaust, but if you want some great sound check out a 4 into 1 Mac header with a glasspack muffler. Sounds like a little V8! I think it's what I'm going to do on mine.
Considering a used one for sale - have the 750 - pretty soon I’ll be a carb specialist ❤
Rule #1......Never ever slow down when approaching the camera.
Nobody gets it........
I have a few V65 Sabres and V65 Magna's. One of my Sabres has the Honda Line fairing. I see yours did to at one time the fuse box and round headlight give it away. I want to remove the fairing on mine and install the rectangle head light not the round one. I've had these bikes since the early 80's.
I like the rectangle headlight more as well but I haven't gotten around to swapping it over yet. Someday I'll do that.
I bought a new left over 1985 V65 Sabre in 1986. Put on 80K miles, sold it to a guy at work he took it to ~130K miles. before the drive shaft splines stripped.
Never cam problems, I never had the carbs out, only problem was an ignition box. Other then that oil, tires, brakes.
I believe with todays superior oils, Just use a MA rated oil and you'll have no problems.
I moved on to a CBR1100XX after the 65. Even more quick, fast, lighter, better handling.
As many have stated...the oil mod is your friend. You can always sell it to me if you don't want it. Thanks.
Great review!! I have a near mint 1984 V65 Magna love it !! Did you change the square headlight out ?? I remember sitting on one at the Honda/Yamaha shop when it was brand new I was 14 In 1984 these bike were my dream machines (1) V65 Magna (2)1985 V Max (3) 1984 V65 Sabre …..Gotta like the 1983-1986 Shadows as well !!No offense to the newer one just like the older ones better …..just my opinion……
Thank you, I'm glad you liked it! The previous owner switched the headlight. I like it, but I think I like the look of the square headlight with the small fairing more, so someday I might switch it back it OE. I agree, I like the older ones much better. I would have loved to have been in your shoes at that time to see those bikes brand new on a show room floor. That sounds amazing.
Love the videos keep them coming….Maybe one day you can take my V65 Magna for a review give both sides about what you like ,and dislike about each one that would be a cool video brother !! Park both bikes next to each other cleaned up !!talk about a blast from the past on 2 of the baddest bikes on the planet 🌎 even still today loved ,and respected by most riders gotta love them both ……
@@rockyarchambeau5820 Thank you, my friend. That's a great idea - I'm going to have to make that video someday. Hopefully sooner than later because I think it would be a lot of fun riding and comparing them both. People would definitely like to see those two monster machines next to each other.
I've always liked these. How does it compare to the " excess11"?
They're both big powerful machines with loads of torque but the Sabre is faster, smoother and more refined. I miss the Yamaha though. It was fun to ride on, had a mean exhaust sound and is a timeless classic motorcycle.
Is there a shop anywhere for these bikes, no one here in southern Illinois that I can find will, I just spent $2000 on a pretty rough V65, I've done some carb cleaning and exhaust stuff but now you got me worried about cams lol
These are such cool machines but that's another downside to them. Because they're getting old and uncommon it's going to be hard to find anyone that knows how to work on them. How many miles do you have on yours? If you're below 20k miles and you don't hear chatter coming from the heads you should be fine.
@@da_garage383 It's a 60k machine brother, no chattering or ticking it actually sounds pretty healthy, but she idles kinda rough after a cold start.
@@lonewolf6175 Everything that I've read states that people experiencing worn out cams happen between 20k - 30k miles. It sounds bad, but the silver lining is that it shouldn't cause any sort of catastrophic engine failure when it occurs. Do you have any history on the bike? The chocolate cam issue has been known for a very long time so it might be possible that they we're already taken care of. Also does it idle rough when cold, or warm? If the cams are worn it should make more ticking noise when cold. I'm kinda thinking your bike might just need a proper tune up.
I bought a low mileage used Sabre V45 from a Honda dealer in 1986. It was a speed monster too. But it had a terrible wobble from 50 to 65 mph. Not good with the 55 mph National speed limit. I brought it back to the dealer and then went through it thoroughly but couldn't fix it. Needless to say I just rode through the wobble and kept my speed above 65.
I like that attitude - It's a good way to overcome the wobble. Just go faster!
As far as I know model from 85 has improved oil system and cams to resolve the problems of earlier models.
I haven't heard about that but if it's true, that would be great news!
Do you have a source for this? I'm looking into getting one.
You deserve more subs.
Thank you, I appreciate that. I'm working on it, but it's pretty tough!
Hey mate, why don't you address the "chocolate" cam problem right now? You mentioned larger oil lines and stronger cams, personally I would be right onto it and replacing these items before the inevitable failure you mentioned, great video brother,after watching this a Sabre is definately in my sights.
Hey, thanks for the comment. Looks like I will be addressing the cam issue now. Maybe. She isn't running very well at the moment and I'm not sure what's wrong - might be the chocolate cams. I've torn into it a little bit but haven't pulled the heads off yet. Regaurdless it needs some mainteneance so I might just do that preventative stuff now.
I had a v65 in the 80s. The only thing I disliked was around 120 mph the front end would shake and then at 122 mph it would stop. It was unnerving and I never really got used to that.
Perhaps it was a suspension issue or the front tire? ever so slightly out of balance? I probably shouldn't admit it but I've ridden at that speed and above many times without any shaking or wobbling.
Back in the back in 85 when I went to go look for motorcycles I seen that exact same bike
you prob shouldnt have bought a cruiser if you dont like the upright position :D .. how do you find the bike to lean etc at slow speeds .. is it heavy ?
The first time I saw one of these I knew I had to get it. Seating position is an extremely minor concern - preference actually. This seating position is better for most general purposes. For me I don't find any difficulties turning at low speeds and that's probably because I'm used to riding heavy bikes. I don't find it to be any more challenging than other bikes I've ridden.
I’ve never ridden one of these but I’ve ridden a buddy’s early Yamaha V-Max which is similarly “tall” and similarly known to be not so agile in the curves. I’ve owned two 3rd gen Magna VF750’s (an ‘01 and a ‘96) and have put about 4,000 miles under my butt on them. These 3rd gen Magna’s are the ones that double as 10,000 rpm red-line hot-rods on the straights and very nimble handling thru the twisties. The key to the 3rd gen’s better handling in the curves is the lower center of gravity due to a nearly 2 inch lowered seat height from the previous Magna generations. The higher center of gravity on the previous generations is what made those bikes less agile in the cornering department. That two inch lower center of gravity on the later generation Magna is the key to its better handling capabilities and makes all the difference in the world.
What year were they fixed
Supposedly they were fixed from around 85' and on however I haven't found hard evidence of that. Just people on forums stating later V65's had the cam issue resolved. So, that might be accurate information but I don't know for certain.
Never let a V45 or 65 engine idle. Maintain high oil pressure and flow: look for power before torque. Never ever cruise at less than 4,000rpm and the cams will last forever. Also: have a firm grip with both hands on the bars, dont even think of waving one hand while riding, this would kill you.
the only way to fix the v65 cam issue is to get a set of hard faced cams from mega cycle. the issue with the bikes from the start was the fact that the facing on the cams was not hard enough. honda came out with many service bulletins and special tools that did nothing. the oil mod kit does almost nothing for a v65 but rather more suited for the v45
I have 20k on mine with no problems
"eats the miles, and sips the gas" ahh that felt good to hear
The biggest downside is carburetor, maintaining it with the bad fuel now a days.
The look you gave the bike at the end is something all bikers can relate to. And I think it’s a rare thing for someone to look back at their bike and think geez what a piece of crap. Lol.
Thats the look of should I get back on and ride or go in and see what the wife is pissed off about...lol
I had both a saber and a magna 1985 loved both
I almost got a Magna. One was for sale locally when I was looking to buy but it's condition wasn't so good. The Sabre is a little more my style so when I saw a clean one come up for sale, I had to get it.
@@da_garage383 over the 35 years o have ridden road bikes I have had 17 different bikes.
The saber is still my second favorite next to my Ducati Paso.
Great 👍
the solution to the cam issue is use high ZDDP oil
Red train Bridge, Caldwell? at the start of your video, but ya love that bike v65 hauls ass.
Yes, that's it! The V65 knows how to boogie.
I've dyno tuned a sabre to 118.7 hp to the wheel.
Ok thanks
Awesome video I stole mine old man don't ride anymore his kids already have bikes and he didn't want it sitting around I snagged it up for 300 I had to have it once in a lifetime deal I have been looking for another bike for a while our oldest son has a Honda cbr600rr so I figured why not go with a Honda as well no she's not a cbr600rr but she's just as fun
It's not quite like a modern street bike, but it does just about everything well - Good comfort, handling and power. Plus it's becoming a classic so it's definitely worth hanging on to!
Как я хочу себе такой байк!) У нас в Беларуси 1350 $ один такой продаётся, а купить не могу, для нас это большие деньги!!!
Do you live in Belarus? Over here in the US that sounds cheap, but I don't know what the exchange rate is.
Been looking to get a V45 don’t care much about power want the water cooling and 6 speed maybe sell my 78 750 four Ss
@@MrDjh66 I believe the V45 has somewhere around 80hp which is still a very healthy number! People I've talked to that have ridden and owned the V45 loved it.
@@da_garage383 yes that’s more then enough I had a couple V maxes
I bought one new out of the crate in 1984 and it's the closest thing to sex on two wheels. I'm 6'6 and I changed the seat to fit my body. The bike will do what the speedo show's. I lived my life in the red line, and drove it coast to coast. Kept it 20 years and we parted ways with it going to a new owner.
Sounds similar to the previous owner of my Sabre. He loved the bike and wanted to keep it. He had a lot of memorable rides with it, but his eye sight is going bad. So he finally sold it but was at least happy to sell it someone that would take care of it and make good memories with it. I certainly do love this bike. Great machine.
Your old bike's mufflers were old school aftermarket not stock.. Putting a set of slip ons on that V4 will quickly make it sound like a NASCAR engine, especially if you run titanium. High octane fuel doesn't burn cooler, it burns slower.. unless you are talking about methanol. Also they don't make that much torque, only 65 ft lbs... what helps a lot is they actually have V-tech.
Although I don't think they called it v-tec yet, but yeah I remember that with my magna, just shy of 7000rpms the bike would go from smooth power to nearly ripping your arms off. Best part was that my magna was geared so that every gear after 1st was geared to put you right at 7,000 if you redlined before shifting, so you could hold that peak power all the way through to overdrive and make everyone around you disappear in your mirrors.
The bike is tuned to make max hp and torque with that pipe. After market pipes decrease power. Dyno proven.
Как же я о нем мечтаю!!! :)
Someday, my friend.
Switched to ZRX1200 for wife then I had 954 Fireblade and Z1000 Ninja
954 Fireblade is one of my dream bikes. I don't know when I'll be able to get one but that'll probably be the next bike purchase.
1 sucky thing about those old bikes is..90% of all Replacment Parts r no longer available...all have been Discontinued!!!
Right. It's getting more challenging to find parts. Thankfully so far mechanical parts have mostly been easy to find. The cosmetic parts have been terrible to get. Color matching fenders are almost non-existent.
Partzilla, or Ebay
The 750 motor had the shit cams. The v65 had different cams from a different batch of cam castings.
Uh. Move stear forward and lean forward..
Mine has over 70,000 miles on it and I have another one that has over 50 so I wouldn't worry about the camshafts on these I think they had it sorted out by the time they made these bikes I think the problem was more on the 82 sabers and 83 the v45s the problem also did not play the really small ones the 500cc models
I'm not sure about the interceptor because they used the v45 motor to build the 1000 interceptor motor instead of using the 1100cc motor
There was another lad that said the same thing about older models having the cam issue resolved which is great to not have to worry about. Thanks for sharing!
Honda copied their indy motor design for this motor. And a six speed trans. All other v fours of this period had a 5 speed.
Dril à little hole foursome more muscle sound
You want a 0-to Oooo s**t acceleration, speed and noise? Grab a 1968-69 2-stroke 3 cyl Kawasaki H1 Mach III 500 or H2 750. A fuel dragster on two wheels. Unfortunately, it wouldn't stop, turn or act anywhere near as well mannered or safe as your Honda. I accidentally popped a wheelie at 70+ when passing a car on the freeway when I first bought it. Scared the hell out of me and the cars nearby. 5,000 to 10,000 in the blink of an eye, shift, back at 5,000 for the next launch.
From Wikipedia: The bike had both detractors and enthusiastic fans, who either complained of poor handling and tendency to wheelie, or praised the power, light weight, and tendency to wheelie.[5] For inexperienced riders the two-stroke engine's suddenly increasing power curve, with little response until a rush of power about 5,000 rpm, contributed to this unexpected liftoff of the front wheel, creating "fearsome reputation".[7] The Mach III became known to its critics as "dangerous for inexperienced riders".[1]
Those bikes are absolutely bonkers. The burst of acceleration both scares and thrills me. Like, I know they're dangerous, but I want more. Haha! My dad talks about a buddy of his back in the late 70's with a 2 stroke, 3 cylinder 900 Kawasaki. Do you know about that bike? He doesn't remember what it was called.
@@da_garage383 Not aware of a 900. My 500 was too dangerous for me. I sold it after trying to make a touring bike out of it (which only a dumba** 18 year old would do). It seized up three times on a Yosemite trip in the 100 degree summer. Rattled like old tomato cans, but got me home. That is when I learned the oil injection system was too fragile and prone to clogging.
But it was a perfect Saturday night (American Grafitty style) street racer. As long as it was kept in a straight run with plenty of room to bring it to a stop.
@@da_garage383 It was called the widowmaker......
No gloves, tee-shirt? Ok buddy...
Yup
He's not your buddy friend