Try this cool HARMONY technique

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  • Опубликовано: 4 ноя 2021
  • Try this harmony technique to make your score or song sound more interesting. Its really popular in film and games scores - but why should they have all the fun? Why not use it in your song writing as well. Join composer Guy Michelmore as he shows you the technique and then writes a short piece.
    We’re featuring VSL's Synchron-ised Special Edition libraries in this real-time scoring demonstration so check that out as well!
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Комментарии • 297

  • @SuperstarPecanbar
    @SuperstarPecanbar 2 года назад +67

    I'm so happy to be able to live in a world where someone like you creates videos and shares information so generously. Thank you, mr Michelmore!

  • @raymondspagnuolo8222
    @raymondspagnuolo8222 2 года назад +1

    Guy, there are so many wonderful comments made below that I can only echo with a hardy "You can say that gain!" Thanks so much for posting!

  • @Alfred_E_Newman
    @Alfred_E_Newman 2 года назад +63

    Watching you is the most fun I've ever had with my pants still on. I am and have been a Rock/metal Guitarist all of my adult life. Now at the ripe old age of 68 I am getting interested in Orchestral sounds to play my guitar against. I have no formal training of any kind, but with the Kontakt libraries you suggest and with a fairly inexpensive keyboard, I have learned so much from you and watching your workflow that I am reasonably confident I will be able to make music that I never dreamed I would be able to do. Thank you so very much for your videos. They have been very helpful.

    • @martynroach182
      @martynroach182 2 года назад +1

      Exactly the same, at 68! I recommend you look at The Orchestra Complete, its fantastic, I've written some orchestra stuff, following Guy's teachings, and I also signed up for his How To Write Music, which I also recommend. Good luck!

    • @Alfred_E_Newman
      @Alfred_E_Newman 2 года назад +1

      @@martynroach182 Thanks for the reply, nice to know that there's another old rocker out there doing the same stuff. I have The Orchestra and Horns of Hell as well that makes some great sounds. I'll look into the course.

    • @humbertoj.montalvo4723
      @humbertoj.montalvo4723 2 года назад +2

      Listen 👂 to Robi Draco Rosa Ricky Martin producer. Listen to this two English CDS Songbirds & Roosters, Mad Love. Plus songs like Brujería, Delirios, Vértigo & Madre Tierra. Or his old band called "Maggie's Dream".

    • @b3owu1f
      @b3owu1f 2 года назад

      Check out Spitfire Audio sounds.. they have amazing libraries!

    • @mattphillips833
      @mattphillips833 2 года назад +6

      Have you tried watching these videos with your pants off? Highly recommend.

  • @mirrorengine
    @mirrorengine 2 года назад +34

    love to watch this stuff uncut, seeing every decision that goes into it

  • @alexkarpenter2306
    @alexkarpenter2306 2 года назад +35

    The beginning of this video is the most Guy Michelmore's beginning one can imagine. Amazing! :)

    • @thevoidanswerswithjazz2215
      @thevoidanswerswithjazz2215 2 года назад +4

      Have you seen the one where he gets a new keyboard and jumps into the pool with it👀👀👀

    • @alexkarpenter2306
      @alexkarpenter2306 2 года назад +2

      @@thevoidanswerswithjazz2215 no, but sounds intriguing and pretty realistic for Guy
      Thanks, I have to watch this :)

    • @OneMinuteAge
      @OneMinuteAge 2 года назад +3

      Absolutely true even if there was no relevant training content, it would be so fantastic to watch Guys videos!!!!!!! 😊

    • @DarkSideofSynth
      @DarkSideofSynth 2 года назад

      Alternative title: crazy composer scares little children in the play area where he's supposed NOT to be ;)

    • @DarkSideofSynth
      @DarkSideofSynth 2 года назад

      @@thevoidanswerswithjazz2215 That's still unbeatable to me. I know he can surprise us, though...

  • @NgaTaeOfficial
    @NgaTaeOfficial 2 года назад +14

    As the brass began to come in towards the end I heard Sir Ian McKellen: “ We must keep this course west of the mountains for forty days…”

  • @GregStarr-QRM
    @GregStarr-QRM 2 года назад +4

    This is great. Neo Riemannian Harmony - had a professor state that harmony is a result of counterpoint. At a deep level this is true.

  • @steveharesign8324
    @steveharesign8324 2 года назад +2

    33 minutes. I feel as though I've just been plugged into the matrix and force fed all the good stuff. Wonderful, Sir. So very much appreciated here.

  • @BlueTransAm83
    @BlueTransAm83 2 года назад +1

    Not boring. The figuring it out part (uncut) is the coolest part. No one else lets us into. And it makes it make more sense in a sense.

    • @BlueTransAm83
      @BlueTransAm83 2 года назад

      It’s crazy though. Cause a year ago. Everything I though was basic strait up. And then you start watching movie score stuff. Modal vids. And it can be second nature after a bit. You learn the slide thing. But then the (almost like key switches) your ear will just pull you to the switch. And slide there. Just months ago non of this would of made sense. Then like (boom) a second world is opened to you. That you thought was, “no I’d never go there.” But it’s not as crazy hard as you thought. If that makes sense.

  • @erikhiser6600
    @erikhiser6600 2 года назад +17

    For everyone who thinks the term "Neo-Reimanian Theory" is mystical or imposing....He just summed up the guts of it in about 1 minute with a 20 minute practical application of the techniques. Everything else would be formal names for the slides he is discussing and then the elaborations needed for academic analysis.
    Great demo as always Guy, the fun you have leaves a big smile on my face.

  • @clayman55
    @clayman55 2 года назад +38

    There's so much wonder and mystery in this piece! Hearing it conjures so many images and storylines! Love this piece and all your videos. I'm not a musician, but work in film, and seeing the magic that music brings to a piece puts a smile in my face every time!

  • @lawrencevenrose
    @lawrencevenrose 2 года назад +1

    I can't stop watching his videos, I love him already

  • @trevfisher
    @trevfisher 2 года назад +2

    The wonderful thing about this sort of post is that takes me a few hours to get through them, in a good way. This is because I stop watching to play for a couple of hours with each idea as it's revealed and that's just too much fun.
    Thanks Guy.
    Or as we say in Bangkok ขอบคุณมาก.

  • @counterpoint1014
    @counterpoint1014 Год назад +2

    I love your choice of words to describe the harmonic slide: emotional indeterminacy. It's atrociously difficult to describe theory concepts with words. When I hear "emotional indeterminacy," I feel adequately displaced. It summons accuracy. Very nice.

  • @StephSancia
    @StephSancia 2 года назад +2

    0:06 "nervous glance to the left at concerned bystanders" 😂 ... thanks for all the down to earth tutorials, appreciated, with Sunny Saturday greets back to the Homelands ✌️

  • @chrissavage5298
    @chrissavage5298 2 года назад +24

    These kind of chord progressions are where I live. I try to write more upbeat songs and it always ends up like this.
    Probably from growing up loving film scores before anything else.

    • @possible-realities
      @possible-realities 2 года назад

      What I wonder is, once you have decided to go firmly outside the diatonic territory, what do you use to guide you to decide which will be the third chord after e.g. Cm - B?

  • @MrCovers101
    @MrCovers101 2 года назад +8

    Thank you so much for this video! I honestly have used this for years, have been aware of it being very popular in the cinematic world but never knew the technique's name!

  • @joelwybrew
    @joelwybrew 2 года назад +16

    Guy, let me give it to you straight.
    You're so good at writing music and being entertaining and informative all at once that I think I just might die.
    Good DAY sir!

  • @electron7373
    @electron7373 Год назад +1

    That sounds amazing ! I feel like I'm about to embark on a strange journey to some magical place where anything could happen.

  • @Synthpeter
    @Synthpeter 2 года назад +10

    Got instant "Depeche Mode - Enjoy the Silence" vibe from the Cm -> B slide. Two last chords in the chorus. Beautiful. Same key even. (And yes, I'm quite a bit of a DM fan :P )

  • @andycordy5190
    @andycordy5190 2 года назад +1

    There was that rogue note that you scoffed at (10'38"?) and dismissed and moved on. It was the point at which the harmony lit up for me and I would have diverted that way. I have learned so much here. Thank you, Guy.

  • @thevoidanswerswithjazz2215
    @thevoidanswerswithjazz2215 2 года назад +4

    I loved discovering this chord stuff as a kid just by sitting on the floor at my grandma's house playing with a casio

    • @Nordischsound
      @Nordischsound 2 года назад +1

      We share the same memorys, it could be a yamaha but I think it was a casio as well

  • @dustintheblacklight
    @dustintheblacklight 2 года назад +1

    In 20 minutes you did what it would take me 2 all days. VERY nice!

  • @GS-uy4xo
    @GS-uy4xo 2 года назад +1

    Love building textures and letting them suggest possible directions.

  • @ChristopheTornieri
    @ChristopheTornieri 2 года назад +2

    Nice one! I agree the VSL woodwinds in the special edition are stunning. Especially the clarinet. I can play it for hours.

  • @swessels
    @swessels 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for sharing this little creation of orchestral music. I'm learning by watching and trying to repeat what I see you do.

  • @jorgenavonecomposer
    @jorgenavonecomposer 2 года назад +2

    It´s great! We need more techinques like this! Big small resources for composing, which only provides the experience. Thanks for that.

  • @retromograph3893
    @retromograph3893 Год назад

    Great vid, shows the importance of orchestration, the harmonic idea itself is extremely simple, it’s the orchestration that makes it cool.

  • @davidrobbins4857
    @davidrobbins4857 21 день назад

    Those strings at nine minutes in sound like Bernard Herrmann, I love that.

  • @orderd29
    @orderd29 2 года назад +1

    So many memories evoked from playing 'Tomb Raider' on the PS1. It also explains the creepiness of the 'Nightmare on Elm Street' theme.
    It's always a pleasure to see your videos and expand my knowledge.

  • @helenlynch3333
    @helenlynch3333 2 года назад

    Absolutely gorgeous stuff, Guy!! Loving the incredibly bright celeste sound, too. Listening to this whilst doing late night admin has really helped.

  • @EveningStars0110
    @EveningStars0110 2 года назад

    I'm learning more from you than some of the paid courses I've bought.

  • @cuhurun
    @cuhurun 2 года назад

    Pure dreamscape, Guy. Thank you for sharing yet another amazing voyage and lesson into the realms of sound.

  • @nickmack1976
    @nickmack1976 2 года назад +3

    Inspired once again for a weekend of composing - thanks Guy! The only slight disappointment was the lack of fireworks illuminating the night sky on your final play through! :)

  • @ArjanSchaeffer
    @ArjanSchaeffer 2 года назад

    This piece is just amazing. Felt a tingle in my spine with the bass coming in there. Would be great to hear in a movie theatre. Inspirational

  • @rty1955
    @rty1955 2 года назад

    Hey Guy. I have no idea what you talk about, but I am amazed by the way your mind works! The way you assemble a piece of music out of thin air is nothing short of brilliant!
    I am always amazed at how composers/arrangers can her things in thier head and commit them to a wonderful audible experience.
    Your energy & enthusiasm shines!
    Thank you for being you!

  • @samuelhaines617
    @samuelhaines617 2 года назад

    Delightfully fun as ever, Guy! Cheers!

  • @deepspacemusicofficial9671
    @deepspacemusicofficial9671 2 года назад

    Please keep making more videos like this to make music theory more fun and interesting at the same time easy to digest . Thanks Guy.

  • @nealegordon
    @nealegordon 2 года назад

    Thanks Guy! Demonstrating these composition techniques is brilliant for us beginners out there! Very kind of you!

  • @matiascavalieri918
    @matiascavalieri918 2 года назад

    Guy did a survey asking for our favorite content in the channel and this video has three of my most beloved topics: harmony tips, live composing illustrating them and a sample library review! I've been related to music for a long time and it's been a year and a half since I'm scoring for audiobooks. I've learn trully a lot with these videos and the connection with Guy's channel it's been sort of magical. I'm working on Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde right now (we do mostly classics), guess what kind of harmonies I've been working on? Thank you a lot!

  • @scottlarock7924
    @scottlarock7924 2 года назад

    Thanks for the reminder! At about 8 minutes in the video, you reminded me to watch the city of lost children movie again.

  • @jimrogers7425
    @jimrogers7425 2 года назад

    Guy, your instructive videos like this are very inspiring! Thank you for this as it helps me see how a certain emotional atmosphere is evoked!! Cheers!!!

  • @zedxxx9
    @zedxxx9 2 года назад

    A delight as usual, and informative. Thank you!

  • @anthonyschultz6801
    @anthonyschultz6801 2 года назад +1

    Great work!! You're EXTREMELY talented!! Thanks for the inspiration!! Cheers from New Orleans!

  • @bastblobs
    @bastblobs 2 года назад

    Always a pleasure to watch your videos Guy :)

  • @hunter8980
    @hunter8980 2 года назад

    This is a once in lifetime opportunity to see you producing the ORIGINAL music masterpiece! Great EXPERIENCE! The final PRODUCTION speaks about your obsession to producing the ORIGINAL MUSIC. I have no words to describe this moment. Thank YOU so much!
    Suggestion: I am seeing the blurry images of your studio and you in this video. I am using Alienware with RTX 3080. You may use 4K settings instead of 1080P. RUclips allow you to go up to 2160 p HD. Please watch Color Grading videos by "Darren Mostyn" and check settings. I am talking about the same video settings for your future videos.

  • @shuggyboy1
    @shuggyboy1 2 года назад +1

    brilliant, love yer vids, great energy, keep them coming. :-)

  • @peteskyrunner4845
    @peteskyrunner4845 2 года назад

    I've only just watched up to 10:39, and already I feel like I'm in an imaginary fantasy world. You're a great composer and a great teacher.

  • @charlesgaskell5899
    @charlesgaskell5899 2 года назад +2

    Impressive you fit inside the slide. Respect!

  • @chizzulwinduh1941
    @chizzulwinduh1941 Год назад

    great stuff guy! That initial chord change at the beginning of the video - very Shine On You Crazy Diamond.

  • @academyofrock
    @academyofrock 2 года назад

    Fantastic - thank you Guy

  • @ArtmanBass
    @ArtmanBass 2 года назад

    Thanks for the introduction to the Slide! Impressive composition.

  • @arielcascallares
    @arielcascallares 2 года назад

    I mentally can't get tired of coming back to your channel Guy. Thanks for all your wisdom!

  • @jamescalvey5273
    @jamescalvey5273 2 года назад

    Awesome video, very informative and interesting and love the midi keyboard on screen so I can follow the lesson and what your playing... Very cool feature!

  • @DThompson55
    @DThompson55 2 года назад

    I've enjoyed this magnificently. Thank you for sharing!

  • @ronricherson6685
    @ronricherson6685 2 года назад

    Fun watching you put this together. The Hollies "He ain't heavy, he's my brother" used this device. I heard it as a kid and went, "What was that?" I wish more songs used it.

  • @joederbyshire_
    @joederbyshire_ 2 года назад

    yayyy new guy video to watch on my break

  • @VelocityRecordingStudio
    @VelocityRecordingStudio 2 года назад +1

    Yupp I’m totally doing this!!! 🔥🙌🔥🔥🙌 it reminds me of the type of tension you feel when you drop the maj4th to a minor 4th. 🔥🙌🔥🙌🔥🔥

  • @georgegarside5131
    @georgegarside5131 2 года назад

    many thanks as always another excellent video something else for me to try out, i am still using VSL opus 1 and 2 brought many years ago still very good look forward to your next video all the best

  • @martijnvanbeek4387
    @martijnvanbeek4387 2 года назад

    Great info on sliding chords. Love them! So moody.

  • @charliethegreat
    @charliethegreat 2 года назад

    Yes you should definitely go for the concortiiiino sustaaaaaaiin! 🤌🤌🤌

  • @poorlydrawn872
    @poorlydrawn872 2 года назад

    I love seeing the process

  • @anthonynelson1699
    @anthonynelson1699 2 года назад

    As a metal guitarist, I in a way know this kind of musical language intuitively. Thanks to cutting my teeth on bands like Opeth, who willfully abuse and ignore the keys they play in, moving around the root and the chord extension whilst keeping certain notes the same is kind of second nature to me. It's so cool to have somebody actually explain to me what I'm actually doing!

  • @soorism8023
    @soorism8023 2 года назад

    I learn so much from you... You're always so inspiring...Thank you

  • @garymason4203
    @garymason4203 2 года назад

    This was very interesting and great to watch. I also think it's good to see such a natural performance even though some mistakes where made. Very enjoyable to watch. Thanks

  • @leonardosales526
    @leonardosales526 2 года назад

    it sounds incredible! a little masterpiece!

  • @nicolasflamel6518
    @nicolasflamel6518 2 года назад

    I just played around with these slides on my vibraphone; I love it! Brilliant vehicle for improvisations....

  • @IanWaugh
    @IanWaugh 2 года назад +2

    Hey Guy - Wonderful (as usual)! You will now be responsible for a flurry of YT pieces sliding all over the place 😀 and media composers will have to think of a new device to make them stand out... 😱 Yes, I'm definitely going to use it! More like this please 👍

  • @GamingNostalgiaRemastered
    @GamingNostalgiaRemastered 2 года назад

    Love your video's. Keep up the good work.

  • @vachila643
    @vachila643 2 года назад

    I got fully invested once I saw him sliding down that little slide
    "JUST LIKE ME"🤣🤣❤️

  • @OliverAmberg
    @OliverAmberg 2 года назад

    Educational and entertaining. As usual. Thank you Guy

  • @logjamstomper1280
    @logjamstomper1280 2 года назад

    I always learn something from you Guy. Thanks

  • @edrage8679
    @edrage8679 2 года назад +8

    I think about Philip Glass music by listen to those progressions.

  • @signaturemusicservices
    @signaturemusicservices 2 года назад

    Thanks Guy very nicely done 🎶👍

  • @pzazzcreativemedia7205
    @pzazzcreativemedia7205 2 года назад

    perfect example of how this is used in the series 'Tales from the Loop' on amazon prime.. I never watch your videos without learning something, excellent again

  • @realthing2158
    @realthing2158 2 года назад

    Enchanting sounds!

  • @josejuanllopisdura2757
    @josejuanllopisdura2757 2 года назад

    Thank you very much for all your teachings
    I love when you like you by fitting what you are looking for

  • @user-mh3ld4cy7r
    @user-mh3ld4cy7r 16 дней назад

    5:27 piano part
    12:30 flute part
    14:38 cello part
    26:00 slide

  • @nothingbutsoundofficial
    @nothingbutsoundofficial 2 года назад

    Really good explanations and beautiful music, mate!

  • @LaurinaHawks
    @LaurinaHawks 2 года назад +1

    Actually I worked with slides since ages, not knowing, that this is an existing "technique". I just did it because it sounds cool. But thank you for this, which is encouraing me to keep it.

  • @Pravdaband
    @Pravdaband 2 года назад

    This Gave me inspiration and ideas to work on. Thank you

  • @imsoundtrack
    @imsoundtrack 2 года назад

    James Horner also used to do this all the time...i remember when i heard this chord change for the first time i was so confused..
    In -Titanic- movie the moment when the two crew ship members were watching jack and rose kissing and they were laughing and saying jokes and then they see the iceberg...Horner did that chord change in that scene.. exactly when they see the iceberg...!!!!
    Couldnt understan if it was a -happy- or a -sad- chord ..
    i was so confused!!!
    also i was 10 years old and knew nothing about music theory but this chord change was so differnet to my ears and i never forgot it!!!

  • @keblorb
    @keblorb 2 года назад +1

    Learning Neo-Riemannian harmony in theory in college right now, it is so much more relevant to a lot of the classical music I listened to that I wasn't quite able to understand using tradition harmony (bruckner, wagner etc)

    • @ThinkSpaceEducation
      @ThinkSpaceEducation  2 года назад +1

      Be careful of the neo riemennian stuff which somehow makes stuff more complicated than it needs to be. I was talking to a friend who is a wonderful wonderful composer and he was disdainful and pointed me at the opening of tristan and isolde which is indeed a work of genius

  • @eddiehall7982
    @eddiehall7982 Месяц назад

    Thank you!

  • @dudleyspikeclarke1355
    @dudleyspikeclarke1355 2 года назад

    Great video as always Guy, and also a big thank you for your shout out to Tokyo, my current home.

  • @asweendure.8891
    @asweendure.8891 Год назад

    You did your thing w/ that intro mate.

  • @vickykaushik8764
    @vickykaushik8764 2 года назад +2

    A really great use of this Slide from Cm to B can be seen( heard) in Mission Impossible Fallout's 'A storm is coming' theme. BTW Lorne Balfe killed it 🔥👌🏻. Really good. In fact it's almost like a secondary Motif in the movie, you hear it throughout the whole theme album.

  • @slesher84
    @slesher84 2 года назад

    great weather for November!

  • @torontocpl
    @torontocpl Год назад

    Great video Guy..
    Definitely will be adding slides into my music
    Cheers from HudsonBay 🇨🇦

  • @joeharrisoncomposer
    @joeharrisoncomposer 2 года назад

    Love the beard, mate! Great video as always.

  • @FLH3official
    @FLH3official 2 года назад

    It's always good to put a proper and serious name on things you use to do instinctively. 😊

  • @marcusc.nordin5624
    @marcusc.nordin5624 2 года назад

    Have used that a lot and never knew it was called a slide. Thanks Guy! :)

  • @brianhudson7058
    @brianhudson7058 2 года назад

    Entertainingly educational, you are probably the best music teacher ever, and Im so old Im not teachable, but Ive learned this

  • @BlueTransAm83
    @BlueTransAm83 2 года назад

    God, I went from a idiot who knew basic keys and structure 6 months ago. To (just as I bought a PC $$$$$ and DAW) I land on his vids. And just blown away and a few others. Thus started studying modal theory and film scores and stuff. It’s like restarting everything I knew only 6 or 5 months ago.

  • @andycordy5190
    @andycordy5190 2 года назад

    Ooooh oooh! Very exciting way of generating ideas. I love the self deprecating humour.
    As you started into the first arps, I was reminded of something from early Pink Floyd but the "Edward Scissorhands" or "Nightmare before Christmas" feel soon took you off elsewhere.

  • @sound.silence
    @sound.silence 2 года назад

    "Do I want to QuAnTiZe?!?!!?" LOL. Some of us truly feel your pain Guy!

  • @Mkshoffmeister
    @Mkshoffmeister 2 года назад

    Guy in best form, i enjoyed the slide ;)

  • @pjdahmen
    @pjdahmen 2 года назад

    thank you for the great and awesome tutorial

  • @roqueavellaneda
    @roqueavellaneda 2 года назад

    Hi Guy, black metal and gothic bands use this device in almost every song, it's so dark. Cheers!

  • @nakedtreemedia-socialmedia933
    @nakedtreemedia-socialmedia933 2 года назад

    I have a Edward ScissorsHands vibe going in my mind. Great work.