I agree with Brandon! I'm a small content creator and the effect YT Shorts has had on WHOLE COUNTRIES attention span is an actual epidemic. I'm not being hyperbolic in the slightest!
@@SpaceMonkeyBoi it's when you leave RUclips after watching shorts, then the shorts open up again next time you open YT. I always go to the home tab before exiting YT.
I think MatPat said it best (paraphrasing), Shorts is a passive experience. TikTok is a passive experience. RUclips itself, however, is an active experience. Having shorts and long form videos on the same platform is not beneficial to the ecosystem of RUclips. The experience on TikTok is content based rather than personality based like RUclips. When you say "I love TikTok", you don't generally have any creators in mind unlike RUclips. (Personally, I'm so chronically on it that I do lmao). To be honest, my personal opinion is split up RUclips to separate apps. RUclips, RUclips TV, RUclips Shorts, RUclips Analytics, RUclips Kids, everything a separate app and/or have it as options to send you over to that app within the others. Or even tap the RUclips logo and allow us to seamlessly switch versions within the app. Kind of like how when you log into Netflix and you choose whose account you want to use. I personally don't care for Shorts myself. It's the same content from TikTok just 2-3 months behind, like Instagram Reels lol
I ❤RUclips shorts and it's a great fit for my channel. 99% of my videos are YT shorts. One of my latest RUclips shorts I uploaded 8 days ago, has 17.8 million views. My subscriber count increased by 130k subscribers and my revenue is up, way up.
Really? Your content looks perfect for long-form to me. Your numbers are very good don't get me wrong but shorts pay so little I'm surprised you are making good money from them.
The respondents to your survey are mostly budding content creators, of whom the majority have not had any luck with shorts. I’m trying to build long form content, but I still use shorts to maintain growth.😉😉
It's because shorts are too short. You end up wanting to hear more about the topic in the end, but if you do click on the link in the description, it drives you into a 2 hour long kinda boring podcast. 😬
Another awesome video and yes agree I prefer longform video rather than shorts. Most of my subscribers come from longform video. Love 🥰 the video and love 💕 Channel Makers.
I don't do Shorts but for most people, it seems like their Shorts should be used to promote current content (or products you sell). Chasing creating viral Shorts for pennies on the dollar is a futile effort.
I also noticed an interesting thing about myself as a viewer: if a long-form creator starts to procrastinate creating long videos and doing shorts instead of it - my loyalty drops because for me it’s the same if he does nothing at all. I’d say it’s better to do 1 long video instead of 10 shorts in that case
Shortform videos might help a new channel find an audience as a funnel to long form. Or for an established channel offering courses to get more eyes from shorts over to long form and to their course offers. These are generally for educational channel shorts, not entertainment shorts. It might hook people to their long form for educational channels. You need a balance of both.
Im the yt shorts king, 2023 shorts creator of the year in the 2 genres Mine went down for 2 months, niw they are slapping again, and paying double more than what they uaed to, just had my best day on yt yesterday clearing over $500 in 1 day. Yall r just doing it wro g and everybody is saying they dont pay.... yeah right. They pay way better than long form. Yall give up then, i will keep slapping
@@homesteadknowhow about 20 mins tops edited, takes me 2 days to edit a long form that makes less money, but I wouldn't have a solid community w out long form and lives
I hate shorts for multiple reasons, one of them being Vertical Videos. RUclips needs to spin off Shorts into its own thing. I can’t search for anything without having to sift through 100s of stupid shorts.
Actually I'm experimenting with Shorts on my own channel to see if there's a chance to get new subscribers while I still working on a new long-form video. It's pretty new to me after I made vertical videos on TikTok and Instagram Reels with a relative number of views, but the retention says otherwise.
I post every Sunday AM, alternating a short and a long form. The shorts being snippets of my long content. So far the shorts has helped by just simply putting my content in front of more eyes driving some new subscribers to my channel.
Most YT users like long from contents. they would also watch shorts. But it really disturb the flow of watching and learning anything on RUclips. Short from contents are mostly noisy. With so much high-quality long form contents out there, why I have to stick to the shorts? And from the creators angle, shorts blocks the growth of my channel. I have created shorts a month ago. After removing all of them, my channel grow far better.❤.
One problem I have noticed is creators chasing shorts trends that don't appeal to their core audience. Since I started trying to target my shorts to match my long form, I have seen better response on my long form, and good subscriber gain for every vide
I’m micro channel and make shorts because they work for me by sending people to my channel. However in future I will concentrate on making more long form videos because I get impressions on them slowly and continuously while shorts reach stops in few hours
I simply don't like the Shorts format for most content. Most of the shorts I see are horizontal vids cut down to vertical, which makes them hard to see. Worse, a lot of that content loses the setup and/or payoff that you could get into a long-form vid. Sure, if you're recording on your phone, go ahead and make a short. But I only ever watch on PC, so I'm probably not going to watch vertical anyhow.
I don't like watching shorts or any other vertical video and I don't make them. I don't care if shorts will help my channel or not. I don't make content I wouldn't want to watch.
I hate to say it but I am one of them. But when I see my fellow car enthusiasts shorts I change my mind but I don't look at them unless I see something but I just don't go out of my way to look at them.
Problem with shorts is you HAVE make shorts to even become youtube partners and to get monetized. As it requres millions of shorts watch time. So even if your channel is for long form, you have to do shorts. Super dumb.
@@ChannelMakers but it literally has two bars to fulfill one being 4000 public watch hours, and 10M public shorts views. It doesn't specify that it's one or the other, so presuming you need to fulfill both. Which is youtube forcing shorts onto creators because they want shorts to be successful. Like sure you can probably get monetized by some external company or mcn, but to do it within youtube, seems like they're kind of forcing it.
@@CallMeGameGirl No, it is definitely either or. I can see how that looks misleading if you're only looking at the progress bars. Here is some documentation on it from RUclips: support.google.com/youtube/answer/72851?hl=en
I agree with Brandon! I'm a small content creator and the effect YT Shorts has had on WHOLE COUNTRIES attention span is an actual epidemic. I'm not being hyperbolic in the slightest!
The worst thing is that they play automatically as you open the app.
I saw 1000 shorts, I don't remember a single creator.
This right here. They are shoving shorts down every viewer's throat
I have the app too, I have never experienced this. Could you tell me more?
@@SpaceMonkeyBoi it's when you leave RUclips after watching shorts, then the shorts open up again next time you open YT. I always go to the home tab before exiting YT.
I think MatPat said it best (paraphrasing), Shorts is a passive experience. TikTok is a passive experience. RUclips itself, however, is an active experience. Having shorts and long form videos on the same platform is not beneficial to the ecosystem of RUclips. The experience on TikTok is content based rather than personality based like RUclips. When you say "I love TikTok", you don't generally have any creators in mind unlike RUclips. (Personally, I'm so chronically on it that I do lmao). To be honest, my personal opinion is split up RUclips to separate apps. RUclips, RUclips TV, RUclips Shorts, RUclips Analytics, RUclips Kids, everything a separate app and/or have it as options to send you over to that app within the others. Or even tap the RUclips logo and allow us to seamlessly switch versions within the app. Kind of like how when you log into Netflix and you choose whose account you want to use. I personally don't care for Shorts myself. It's the same content from TikTok just 2-3 months behind, like Instagram Reels lol
I love your opinion. I totally agree with it.
I ❤RUclips shorts and it's a great fit for my channel. 99% of my videos are YT shorts. One of my latest RUclips shorts I uploaded 8 days ago, has 17.8 million views. My subscriber count increased by 130k subscribers and my revenue is up, way up.
Really? Your content looks perfect for long-form to me. Your numbers are very good don't get me wrong but shorts pay so little I'm surprised you are making good money from them.
The respondents to your survey are mostly budding content creators, of whom the majority have not had any luck with shorts. I’m trying to build long form content, but I still use shorts to maintain growth.😉😉
It's because shorts are too short. You end up wanting to hear more about the topic in the end, but if you do click on the link in the description, it drives you into a 2 hour long kinda boring podcast. 😬
A lot of the YT shorts seems to be stolen content and they repost it with that annoying computer voice.
Another awesome video and yes agree I prefer longform video rather than shorts. Most of my subscribers come from longform video. Love 🥰 the video and love 💕 Channel Makers.
I don't do Shorts but for most people, it seems like their Shorts should be used to promote current content (or products you sell). Chasing creating viral Shorts for pennies on the dollar is a futile effort.
I also noticed an interesting thing about myself as a viewer: if a long-form creator starts to procrastinate creating long videos and doing shorts instead of it - my loyalty drops because for me it’s the same if he does nothing at all. I’d say it’s better to do 1 long video instead of 10 shorts in that case
I just love long form content :)
Shortform videos might help a new channel find an audience as a funnel to long form. Or for an established channel offering courses to get more eyes from shorts over to long form and to their course offers. These are generally for educational channel shorts, not entertainment shorts. It might hook people to their long form for educational channels. You need a balance of both.
Im the yt shorts king, 2023 shorts creator of the year in the 2 genres
Mine went down for 2 months, niw they are slapping again, and paying double more than what they uaed to, just had my best day on yt yesterday clearing over $500 in 1 day. Yall r just doing it wro g and everybody is saying they dont pay.... yeah right. They pay way better than long form. Yall give up then, i will keep slapping
How much do you put into each short?
@@homesteadknowhow about 20 mins tops edited, takes me 2 days to edit a long form that makes less money, but I wouldn't have a solid community w out long form and lives
2 Facts: 1. RUclips Short Content is BS and Clickbait. 2. We have Tiktok and Insta for Shorts as they have an advanced Algo for that.
For example Insta Reels serve me 80% the content i want to see, YT Shorts maybe 5%
I hate shorts for multiple reasons, one of them being Vertical Videos. RUclips needs to spin off Shorts into its own thing. I can’t search for anything without having to sift through 100s of stupid shorts.
If you provide a quick lesson in a short form, those that like it, might bring people to their long form channel.
As a viewer, I prefer to find channels to subscribe to by browsing/watching shorts.
Actually I'm experimenting with Shorts on my own channel to see if there's a chance to get new subscribers while I still working on a new long-form video.
It's pretty new to me after I made vertical videos on TikTok and Instagram Reels with a relative number of views, but the retention says otherwise.
I hate watching them but love making them
And i dont like Nate
I post every Sunday AM, alternating a short and a long form. The shorts being snippets of my long content. So far the shorts has helped by just simply putting my content in front of more eyes driving some new subscribers to my channel.
Most YT users like long from contents. they would also watch shorts. But it really disturb the flow of watching and learning anything on RUclips. Short from contents are mostly noisy. With so much high-quality long form contents out there, why I have to stick to the shorts?
And from the creators angle, shorts blocks the growth of my channel. I have created shorts a month ago. After removing all of them, my channel grow far better.❤.
One problem I have noticed is creators chasing shorts trends that don't appeal to their core audience. Since I started trying to target my shorts to match my long form, I have seen better response on my long form, and good subscriber gain for every vide
I get more views from shorts
I get more reactions from shorts
I get more comments from shorts
and im not yet monetized FTS!
As the late, great Paul Harvey would say, we used to come to RUclips for "the rest of the story."
That's an interesting filing cabinet there eh?
😂😂😂
I wish I could save shorts . I like to watch the shorts from certain content creators.
I’m micro channel and make shorts because they work for me by sending people to my channel. However in future I will concentrate on making more long form videos because I get impressions on them slowly and continuously while shorts reach stops in few hours
RUclips shorts don't fill the need that they should. If they want to fix them, they need to bring back video responses.
Love it ❤❤❤
I simply don't like the Shorts format for most content. Most of the shorts I see are horizontal vids cut down to vertical, which makes them hard to see. Worse, a lot of that content loses the setup and/or payoff that you could get into a long-form vid.
Sure, if you're recording on your phone, go ahead and make a short. But I only ever watch on PC, so I'm probably not going to watch vertical anyhow.
I don't like watching shorts or any other vertical video and I don't make them. I don't care if shorts will help my channel or not. I don't make content I wouldn't want to watch.
I hate to say it but I am one of them. But when I see my fellow car enthusiasts shorts I change my mind but I don't look at them unless I see something but I just don't go out of my way to look at them.
Problem with shorts is you HAVE make shorts to even become youtube partners and to get monetized. As it requres millions of shorts watch time. So even if your channel is for long form, you have to do shorts. Super dumb.
We've monetized lots of channels without shorts and a lot of our members in P24 have too. Really, don't make yourself do them if you don't want to!
@@ChannelMakers but it literally has two bars to fulfill one being 4000 public watch hours, and 10M public shorts views. It doesn't specify that it's one or the other, so presuming you need to fulfill both. Which is youtube forcing shorts onto creators because they want shorts to be successful. Like sure you can probably get monetized by some external company or mcn, but to do it within youtube, seems like they're kind of forcing it.
@@CallMeGameGirl No, it is definitely either or. I can see how that looks misleading if you're only looking at the progress bars. Here is some documentation on it from RUclips: support.google.com/youtube/answer/72851?hl=en
Enjoy making shorts but don’t like watching them
Hate ‘em. Hate making them. Short Attention Span Theater that adds nothing to the life of the viewer but encourages addiction.
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