From your experience, is there any difference in how a candidate should approach negotiations in the US vs. Europe? I have the impression that there is not much room for negotiations in Europe, whereas in the US, because people get a startup package, you can at least negotiate that one.
For faculty positions there is a lot to negotiate in Europe. But it depends a lot on the country. In Germany, for example, lab space, scientific personnel, technical staff, start-up cash, recurring annual payments, office space are all part of the negotiation....the list is very long, and in my experience way longer than in the US. But I think in some other countries in Europe, where my experience is more limited, there are fewer items on this list, for example in the UK. In terms of postdoc positions, it depends very much on the type of position.
@@mrillig Thank you so much for the reply. I am now in the job market, and navigating these particular topics is very hard. I really appreciate the support through the videos, and I am very much looking forward to the one topic you proposed about why you should take your first offer (I hope I remember the title well)
Thank you for the video! Can I ask a follow-up question for the part you discussed at the end of your video - the gray area? I interviewed for an AP position in the US. At the end of the interview, they ask me to provide an equipment list. I was reserved because of the reason you mentioned - I don't want to act against my application for being an expensive hiring. I asked if this was an offer. They were like we need to know first and reach an agreement before we can make you an offer. But once we make you an offer, we know it is going to work for both sides. I also need a spouse hiring, which is in addition to the equipment list. What would you suggest to do in this case? Many thanks again!
For many positions it is pretty standard that the search committee wants to know what you would need to be successful, and this comes up during the interview. A detailed list comes typically later, depending on the country and institution. But during the interview you should know what bigger equipment you will need to have or have access to, for example. And in order to have a good answer it is good to inquire what the general range is for offers. During the interview nobody makes an offer, this happens afterwards, when the committee has had a chance to discuss all applicants, and in many cases once the list of candidates has moved through several other layers of admin (like in Germany). Spousal hire I would firmly place in the negotiation phase, since this is family matters and they have no business to come up during the interview.
From your experience, is there any difference in how a candidate should approach negotiations in the US vs. Europe? I have the impression that there is not much room for negotiations in Europe, whereas in the US, because people get a startup package, you can at least negotiate that one.
For faculty positions there is a lot to negotiate in Europe. But it depends a lot on the country. In Germany, for example, lab space, scientific personnel, technical staff, start-up cash, recurring annual payments, office space are all part of the negotiation....the list is very long, and in my experience way longer than in the US. But I think in some other countries in Europe, where my experience is more limited, there are fewer items on this list, for example in the UK.
In terms of postdoc positions, it depends very much on the type of position.
@@mrillig Thank you so much for the reply. I am now in the job market, and navigating these particular topics is very hard. I really appreciate the support through the videos, and I am very much looking forward to the one topic you proposed about why you should take your first offer (I hope I remember the title well)
@@lucianachavez9539That video is coming out next Wednesday.... 😁
Thank you for the video! Can I ask a follow-up question for the part you discussed at the end of your video - the gray area? I interviewed for an AP position in the US. At the end of the interview, they ask me to provide an equipment list. I was reserved because of the reason you mentioned - I don't want to act against my application for being an expensive hiring. I asked if this was an offer. They were like we need to know first and reach an agreement before we can make you an offer. But once we make you an offer, we know it is going to work for both sides. I also need a spouse hiring, which is in addition to the equipment list. What would you suggest to do in this case? Many thanks again!
For many positions it is pretty standard that the search committee wants to know what you would need to be successful, and this comes up during the interview. A detailed list comes typically later, depending on the country and institution. But during the interview you should know what bigger equipment you will need to have or have access to, for example. And in order to have a good answer it is good to inquire what the general range is for offers.
During the interview nobody makes an offer, this happens afterwards, when the committee has had a chance to discuss all applicants, and in many cases once the list of candidates has moved through several other layers of admin (like in Germany).
Spousal hire I would firmly place in the negotiation phase, since this is family matters and they have no business to come up during the interview.
Thank you for the information. Are you able to provide advice on a specific scenario? Thanks
Thanks!
No, I can't provide advice in individual cases; sorry.
Very helpful and informative. Thank you for illustrating so clearly the differences between interview and negotiation.
Thank you! glad you found it useful.