yeah man taking knowledge that you may or may not be able to use in a match is way more problematic than something that makes you stronger and faster silly question dude lol 😂
He’s over exaggerating a bit. Also Mikey as world champion has endless knowledge to give its not just take - he taught Isaac doderlien the new footlock entanglements for gi ( butterfly ashi) which then isaac improved on and has used to win the world championships and become the best footlocker in the gi by a country mile.. that’s just 1 event at 1 gym
Comment was sarcastic, that being said, gym hopping to learn is what many athletes do to learn different styles. To use steroids is cheating if your opponent is not. People get hurt facing opponents on steroids. Think he is weak that he has to. But the fact that people in these comments think gym hopping is worse. Is astounding.
"If he wants to play that game we can play that game. Do you guys know what Mikey does?!?! He strengthens his knowledge by working with multiple teams and coaches. What a bad person right? Anyways steroids are good..."
I just asked my wife how old she thought Gordon Ryan was, and she said 52. I actually like him, but surely taking PEDs makes him look way older than he is.
It’s legal. It’s not cheating. To see the absolute best and surpass human limits this is what people want to see. Best solution is to create two separate leagues.
@@DaverodI remember growing up in the 80’s where steroid use in any sport or competition was frowned upon. I can’t stand how nowadays people accept steroids so easily and push for them to be used in competition..
Because it turns sports into a game of chemical warfare and who can handle the most side effects before dropping dead. Still takes years off their life even if they endure it. Steroid abuse is serious @@Daverod
It’s legal. It’s not cheating. To see the absolute best and surpass human limits this is what people want to see. Best solution is to create two separate leagues.
He Is not attacking you personally, you narcisist. He Is attacking peds use. And you obviously feel called in. He wants a clean sport. Nothing more honorable and right than that!
@@brunobrito9997 what does that mean? So if they ask him question mentioning Gordon he cannot answer?? Does he have a personal problem with Gordon? No Is he attacking him personally as a person? No He Is attacking peds use. And Gordon Is an advocate of peds use and he Is a narcisist. He Is trying tò twist the plot saying that Mikey Is attacking him but it's false. Mikey Is attacking peds use. And he only said that Gordon Is in a position that could use his influence to ask for a clean sport. Mikey wants a clean sport. Let's not twist narrative here.
@@stefanojkd1605 Relax dude, you said he wasn’t attacking Gordon, that is false since he did attacked him in Demetrius Johnson Channel. If he is right or wrong doesn’t matter, but he indeed said things about peds use while using Gordon as example, and you said he didn’t, which is false.
Not Mikey, not the ruotolo Brothers, not Gsp, and others for sure. There are still people who believe in clean sport and its values. Btw any sport that Is taken seriously and considered a sport there Is drug testing. Otherwise Is Just a joke and a cheating drug competition.
You watched the video but missed the whole point, crazy 😂 It's not cheating when it's allowed genius, and when almost everyone else in is openly on PEDs 🤦♂
Came here to point out that you can't be considered a cheater when it's allowed in the rules but I see I'm late to the party 😂 I'm not a Gordon Ryan fan but I do agree with his logic that either it's allowed across the board or banned across the board.... He said he's willing to not do them so I'll take him at his word..... And he is not lying about the people wanting to see the best athletes and the best athletes being on PEDs...... Can't talk about Fighter Health being the priority when these people are quite literally trying to harm the opponent, whether strikes to the head in MMA or breaking a limb or joint in BJJ..... So things that help them heal better would actually be better for the fighter health.... Certain steroids for only strength I can see but things like BC-157 is banned but it's sole ability is for faster muscle recovery and brain reinforcement.... I think that's it's name but I could be wrong, same with peptides..... I think things like that should be allowed for the fighter.... Things like EPO should not.....
If Jiu Jitsu's base fundamental is that a smaller man can beat a bigger man with technique only why couldn't Gordon not do any juice and still win? Are his skills really that great or is he just a juice fraud?
That Jiu Jitsu base fundamental is true when the bigger one doesn’t know Jiu Jitsu, because when both sides does, in an equivalent level, the bigger one will win, we haven’t seen a smaller guy in ADCC win an absolute in a while. When Gordon was off steroids he was beating everybody, until they brought Pena, which was way bigger than him, Pena struggled to beat him but he did, Twice, Gordon bulked up and we saw what happened.
There is no advantage if everyone is doing it. So yes, he would be where he is today. Also, he's one of the few guys that come out and completely admits to taking PEDs.
It’s legal. It’s not cheating. To see the absolute best and surpass human limits this is what people want to see. Best solution is to create two separate leagues.
Nicky Ryan's brother is obviously and gleefully and happily on steroids. He is very well known to have intense physical problems from being on them for so long affecting his career. NOBODY wants to see athletes on Gear.
Funny how much Gordon reminds me of Jon Jones. Can’t deal with criticism at all, and always twists the situation and the words of others to frame himself as a victim. Obsessed with coming across as likeable despite probably being deeply insecure.
It’s legal. It’s not cheating. To see the absolute best and surpass human limits this is what people want to see. Best solution is to create two separate leagues.
If you remove Gordon Ryan, the sport would be JUST fine and exactly where it is today. This dude is so weird... It's just entertaining at this point... Not even mad at it lol.
Even a hater must admit that the Sport gained a lot more spotlight after Danaher Death Squad started to win EBI events, while Gordon wasn’t the only one responsible for it, it was hugely responsible for the popularity of it to where it is today.
@@brunobrito9997 Nothing you said is untrue, and I'm no Gordon hater by any means... I'm simply saying... He's getting weird and wasn't that impactful... Any medium good looking tall guy on steroids with a decent level of jits would have done just fine... I would argue a more honest charismatic not pathological personality would have done much better... Even if 10% less talented.
It’s legal. It’s not cheating. To see the absolute best and surpass human limits this is what people want to see. Best solution is to create two separate leagues.
@kevins320 No, I don't like to see juiced up low frequency idiots muscle each other into submission... I prefer to watch clean athletes perform at their highest ability.
Just correcting: here in Brazil it is not THAT easy to buy steroids... You need a medical prescription, and even for the doctors it is quite complicated to prescribe, because they can't prescribe testosterone or other compounds if you your system is running well, so it is a fragile topic here and the government is making it more dificult (yes, f***king burocrats being burocrats). Anyway, other than that, you can buy from black market, but then it is by your own risk (the same in US I am pretty sure)
You can’t really argue with what he’s saying. He’s 100% on point. It just creates inequality where only rich fighters can benefit from the current system. Problem is he had to take the position of arguing in favour of steroids to make the point and that ends up being the main takeaway for 90% of people.
It isn't a moral code only, it significantly lowers your lifespan. To which I'm sure Gordan would respond "Yeah, well are you willing to die for the sport you love? I am".
Moral high ground? The pot calling the kettle black, Ryan? So, because there is no governing body, PED use is okay? But Ryan takes it further. He states that PED use is justified because it makes you look better! LOL! Wow, I didn’t know fashion was part of the art. Ryan goes on to say this is what people want to see. Really? Uh, I go to sporting events to see skill, not what a guy looks like. Ryan goes on to justify that PED use should be allowed because of the expense for keeping PED’s out of sports. Hey Ryan, it’s called fairness. It certainly appears that if Ryan had his way, PED use should be used in all sports - at all levels. If that’s the case, Ryan, where do you draw the line when it comes to age? You want all high school athletes using PED’s too?
No legit sanctioned company is gonna willing let athletes that are on juice compete. 1 organization needs to buy up all the little BJJ organization and clean them up
Bjj tournaments can't afford steroid testing, he's using that fact to say they're allowed and it's just nonsense. Mikey is trying to elevate the sport and Gordon is too dumb and has too big of an ego to just admit he shouldn't be using them.
Coward? He's put it on the line with all the top and best in the world over and over and over on the highest platforms even when he knew he might underperform because of his illness. Even knowing he'd never hear the end of it from the whole world if he loses.
The UFC was basically built on the shoulders of a 26 year old, 178 Lb Brazilian grappler who wasn't jacked at all. Joyce Gracie's incredibly skill and willpower single handedly changed the face of combat sports in the US. Somebody needs to clue Gordon in. Nobody gives 2 5hits if he's "shredded". Every time I hear Gordon defend his use of PED's, all I hear is a guy who is ok admitting to the world that he couldn't hack it without them.
I don't lnoe what everyone is calling him a fraud or a cheat he is clearly admitting he's on it and saying almost everyone else is ! He doesn't want to lose....he didn't for a long long time.....and now he does like near everyone else ...the rules shud make things more even
Where in Brasil do you get PED over rhe counter? Been there many times and my perception is that you really have to go through a corrupt doctor to get them. How hard it is to find one is another case. I tried to buy antibiotics in smaller pharmacy and thwy wouldn give me without a pescription.
Thats the way here in brazil, you can buy underground gear but you know this is not good product. To have real good quality steroids you have to go to corrupt doctors, who charge you a lot of money for the prescriptions.
You are right. I live in Brazil, no pharmacy I know of would sell anabolics, like you said, antibiotics, codeine, any psychotherapy drugs, only with prescription. And most GPS won't prescribe them, only specialists.
You absolutely do. At peak level, against elite of the elite where the gap between their bjj level is extremely tiny, strength makes the difference. And since everyone assumes everyone else is taking PED, then everybody does as a self realising prophecy. Testing is the only way
Gordon could literally prove he is the best ever by competing natural and I think I would still beat everyone. Unfortunately something got in his head that he had to use peds.
Everyone did the same thing to that first guy in the colosseum to say he wants to use weapons. He just wanted to enhance his chances of surviving and entertaining the crowd 😂
Ppl don't just want to see the best athletes compete, they want to place wagers on the athletes. The rules are in place for the gamblers not forbthe athletes.
Just so weird. PEDs are illegal in the US. He talks like it is cotton candy or something. Why not just use amphetamines for the performance enhancing effects? Why not do heroin so you feel less pain? This argument does not make sense.
I agree with everything Gordon said. All the good players are on juice. Lebron juice, NFL juice, baseball was great when juice was going on. Fighting dont know about that because you could really hurt someone in a fight.
Sounds like a smart man moving on when you cannot learn more from your current location. Does not mean you forgot them. Just a silly cop out to his fake body filled with enhancement drugs.
I don't think he is wrong though, there are a lot of new drugs not tested for and being used by people in the big sports. Other countries are doing what he says about hiring doctors and chemists. That is the reality. There is a famous story about USA vs Russia in the 60's Olympics and the creation of Dianabol. It was a war of who had the best drugs. It hasn't changed much since then. But people pretend that isn't real. What is the main argument against PED use? This applies more to the heavyweight classes. Mikey and the Ruotolo brothers fighting at their natural weight is also commendable. Graig Jones is open about it, he doesn't get much crap but Gordon does. Why is that?
Eh, his point makes sense. Ya'll just hating for hating-sake. Until a governing body is installed and sets the boundaries, then no rules are being broken. I would personally prefer no steroids but you can't blame anyone for using them if they are legal. An edge is an edge, and the argument for pro-steroid leagues is that if all people are on them, then the playing field is equal anyway and you get to see physical freaks. The physical freak aspect is fun to watch, but creates unrealistic standards for up and coming kids into the sport.
well, if you use steroids\PED's its high key hard to respect that. i cant speak for everyone but, if i know that some meatheads are using PED\steroids and are fighting, ill turn the contest off. ill also make sure that my kids understand using is NOT a true athlete move, nor is it a HEALTHY move. defending the PED usage is absolutely outlandish.
Well, then you're not going to like sports or the UFC because they're all on PDS, whether it's for recovery everybody's juice in one way or another cortisone shots painkillers before matches and events🎉 nobody wants to watch Regular People that's boring
@@JacobsNews agree to disagree on literally all of that. You may like watching juice heads. but not everyone (as u cant speak for everyone interested in sports nor another person in general). not to mention ppl are forced to watch them. You must just be an avid gordon ryan fan. and defending something like PEDs no matter the situation is objectively outlandish.
@Rahzarusfilms that's just because you don't know that athletes are allowed to take steroids in sports it's under the TUE rules . It's not your fault that most people don't know anything about the rules of steroids in sports
First pro steroids rant I’ve heard at a ufc event.
Yeah is he with the UFC though? I know he’s grappled at their events so I don’t know. What is he doing there?
Based. Everyone using anyways
@@primitiveorganism9571he was on the commentary table of UFPI9, so they included him in media day
He's not UFC.
@@peterjohnson9291 correct, he is speaking at a UFC event however.
the mental gymnastics here are insane 10/10
😭😭
What did he say that is incorrect?
Not at all, he’s speaking the truth. You just don’t like it
@@Rage_Complex @Felixfrost is low test. He needs PEDs more than anyone.
@@seventyfive1 being on 20 different teams has nothing to do with taking roids and is nothing comparable
Gordon is mad cause he’s always roid raging
And scared of Nicky rod?
He doesnt look mad at all
@@LiarSlayer197 he beat Nicky every time they competed. What are you on about.
so moving gyms is equivalent to using chemicals to make you better stronger faster
Constantly gym hoping is worse than using steroids personally.
yeah man taking knowledge that you may or may not be able to use in a match is way more problematic than something that makes you stronger and faster silly question dude lol 😂
I think you can tell by his face after he said that he knew how ridiculous what he just said sounded
He’s over exaggerating a bit. Also Mikey as world champion has endless knowledge to give its not just take - he taught Isaac doderlien the new footlock entanglements for gi ( butterfly ashi) which then isaac improved on and has used to win the world championships and become the best footlocker in the gi by a country mile.. that’s just 1 event at 1 gym
Comment was sarcastic, that being said, gym hopping to learn is what many athletes do to learn different styles. To use steroids is cheating if your opponent is not. People get hurt facing opponents on steroids. Think he is weak that he has to. But the fact that people in these comments think gym hopping is worse. Is astounding.
"If he wants to play that game we can play that game. Do you guys know what Mikey does?!?! He strengthens his knowledge by working with multiple teams and coaches. What a bad person right? Anyways steroids are good..."
Lmao yea seriously 😂 Still waiting for the point on that one … made him look so incompetent
its called loyalty to your team
@@samuelcampos1411 he has no loyalty.
@@sloter21 so that would be the premise of his argument, but made himself look incompetent trying to convey the point.
@@johnnymomo1you do realise you can be loyal to a team and still travel around 😭 like what
Gordon eats PED’s like it’s Thanksgiving dinner 💊💉
So does every one of his competitors in his weight category
Just levels out the playing field
@@soulsurfer639cry
@@calisyogi naw 😐?
So is every grappler it’s literally okay for them to use so you blame honest guy?
people might not realize this. but mikey and gordon are the same age. they're both around 28 but one looks like he's in his late 30s.
I just asked my wife how old she thought Gordon Ryan was, and she said 52. I actually like him, but surely taking PEDs makes him look way older than he is.
It’s legal. It’s not cheating. To see the absolute best and surpass human limits this is what people want to see. Best solution is to create two separate leagues.
@kevins320 Don't think anyone is saying it's cheating here. Just commenting on the fact that he looks way older than he really is.
bro is advocating for steroids 💀💀
Most juijitsu organizations allow them. Why wouldn’t he?
@@DaverodI remember growing up in the 80’s where steroid use in any sport or competition was frowned upon. I can’t stand how nowadays people accept steroids so easily and push for them to be used in competition..
Not a big fan of the guy but he's dead right about ped use in sports in general.
Because it turns sports into a game of chemical warfare and who can handle the most side effects before dropping dead. Still takes years off their life even if they endure it. Steroid abuse is serious @@Daverod
@@Ash51511 if everyone uses it then is not cheating
This interview gave me an aneurysm. So basically Gordon is triggered by Mikey telling the truth? lol
Mikey is just crying start his own grappling and test there you go no more crying.
@ can you rewrite that? Thanks
It’s legal. It’s not cheating. To see the absolute best and surpass human limits this is what people want to see. Best solution is to create two separate leagues.
He Is not attacking you personally, you narcisist. He Is attacking peds use.
And you obviously feel called in.
He wants a clean sport.
Nothing more honorable and right than that!
Yup, I don't know of any instances where Mickey has ever mentioned his name.
He literally mentioned Gordon and Craig by name
He literally mentioned Gordon by name in Demetrius Johnson RUclips Channel and compared their ages
@@brunobrito9997 what does that mean?
So if they ask him question mentioning Gordon he cannot answer??
Does he have a personal problem with Gordon? No
Is he attacking him personally as a person? No
He Is attacking peds use.
And Gordon Is an advocate of peds use and he Is a narcisist.
He Is trying tò twist the plot saying that Mikey Is attacking him but it's false.
Mikey Is attacking peds use.
And he only said that Gordon Is in a position that could use his influence to ask for a clean sport.
Mikey wants a clean sport.
Let's not twist narrative here.
@@stefanojkd1605 Relax dude, you said he wasn’t attacking Gordon, that is false since he did attacked him in Demetrius Johnson Channel. If he is right or wrong doesn’t matter, but he indeed said things about peds use while using Gordon as example, and you said he didn’t, which is false.
“They’re all on steroids.” - Nick Diaz 2015
Thought that was Nate
Not Mikey, not the ruotolo Brothers, not Gsp, and others for sure.
There are still people who believe in clean sport and its values.
Btw any sport that Is taken seriously and considered a sport there Is drug testing.
Otherwise Is Just a joke and a cheating drug competition.
Dude is so proud to be a cheater, crazy
He's a scumbag, but he's not a cheater.
You watched the video but missed the whole point, crazy 😂 It's not cheating when it's allowed genius, and when almost everyone else in is openly on PEDs 🤦♂
Thank you, I don't know how everyone is not figuring this out@@JustJaiAU
How exactly is a cheater?
Came here to point out that you can't be considered a cheater when it's allowed in the rules but I see I'm late to the party 😂 I'm not a Gordon Ryan fan but I do agree with his logic that either it's allowed across the board or banned across the board.... He said he's willing to not do them so I'll take him at his word..... And he is not lying about the people wanting to see the best athletes and the best athletes being on PEDs...... Can't talk about Fighter Health being the priority when these people are quite literally trying to harm the opponent, whether strikes to the head in MMA or breaking a limb or joint in BJJ..... So things that help them heal better would actually be better for the fighter health.... Certain steroids for only strength I can see but things like BC-157 is banned but it's sole ability is for faster muscle recovery and brain reinforcement.... I think that's it's name but I could be wrong, same with peptides..... I think things like that should be allowed for the fighter.... Things like EPO should not.....
Mikey Musumeci eating up this dudes mind like it's pizza
If Jiu Jitsu's base fundamental is that a smaller man can beat a bigger man with technique only why couldn't Gordon not do any juice and still win? Are his skills really that great or is he just a juice fraud?
he got both: skill and juice
and danaher
Roids are legal in bjj, just look at the record gordon has vs anyone else, you think you could take some roids and be any good?
@@fgc1850 Mikey would tap Gordon
That Jiu Jitsu base fundamental is true when the bigger one doesn’t know Jiu Jitsu, because when both sides does, in an equivalent level, the bigger one will win, we haven’t seen a smaller guy in ADCC win an absolute in a while.
When Gordon was off steroids he was beating everybody, until they brought Pena, which was way bigger than him, Pena struggled to beat him but he did, Twice, Gordon bulked up and we saw what happened.
@@brunobrito9997 Mighty Mouse subbed a dude who was like 250 and a black belt
The most exciting grapplers are not on PED’s… Ruotolos, Mikey, Tackets…etc.
Ruotolos are my favorite
You’re delusional if you think they aren’t on the juice.
Who says they are not?
Those are little guys.
You have just said people like that are so fake.
If you stopped taking peds, would you be where you are today
Probably, only if all the others competitors also stopped their usage.
Well compare his resume with the rest then, roids are legal in bjj, everyone can use it
There is no advantage if everyone is doing it. So yes, he would be where he is today. Also, he's one of the few guys that come out and completely admits to taking PEDs.
Maybe just dont do it Gordon..and see how you stack up. Fraud
but everyone Gordon competes against uses, why wouldn't Gordon use them
Yea and Mickey isnt on PEDs and is still wrecking everyone. So if Gordon is as good as he says he is, beat the roided guys natty. @soulsurfer639
Nicky rod wants to tangle also and he’s scared
Dude everyone in jiu jitsu is using. Literally everyone, people who aren't using aren't winning.
@@LiarSlayer197 Why is he scared? He's beaten him twice. Nicky has lost a lot. Why not rematch him with Felipe or Victor first.
I know the solution, have a PED category so they can compete against others in the PED division
For MMA, Pride was a PED division.... and they were glorious to watch fight
😂
It’s legal. It’s not cheating. To see the absolute best and surpass human limits this is what people want to see. Best solution is to create two separate leagues.
The sound of that airplane means even the Pilot didn't agree with him lol.
He fell asleep😂😂
@@richardgallagher4880 HAHAHA
Nicky Ryan's brother is obviously and gleefully and happily on steroids. He is very well known to have intense physical problems from being on them for so long affecting his career. NOBODY wants to see athletes on Gear.
Gordon calling someone fake is pretty funny
How weird that this guy is worried about someone writing things on the internet about him. This is the world we live in. Virtual creepiness.
He’s talking In a circle .
Mike is the future
So pathetic. Trying to justify cheating because, you know, everyone else is doing it. Stop judging me God damn it.
I dislike Gordon, but the reality is he isn't cheating. Most jiu jitsu comps do no have rules against PED use.
Gordon: I use PEDs because it’s allowed.
Butthurt nattys: HES A CHEATER WAHHHHHHHHH
Answered your own question. They should be illegal across the board.
This just summed up why I dont care about or watch sports much anymore. Some athletes are enhanced and most sports seem rigged now anyway.
Exactly. Its not fun to watch anymore because you dont know truly who the best is.
I want to see skill win. I dont want to see science win.
I just remembered Gordon is best friend with Jon bones 😅😅😅
*fellow customer
Right 💯
Vs Nicky rod and Matt riddle. Dark alley. I’m setting it up
Funny how much Gordon reminds me of Jon Jones. Can’t deal with criticism at all, and always twists the situation and the words of others to frame himself as a victim. Obsessed with coming across as likeable despite probably being deeply insecure.
It’s legal. It’s not cheating. To see the absolute best and surpass human limits this is what people want to see. Best solution is to create two separate leagues.
Taking steroids take away from his wins .
If you remove Gordon Ryan, the sport would be JUST fine and exactly where it is today. This dude is so weird... It's just entertaining at this point... Not even mad at it lol.
Even a hater must admit that the Sport gained a lot more spotlight after Danaher Death Squad started to win EBI events, while Gordon wasn’t the only one responsible for it, it was hugely responsible for the popularity of it to where it is today.
@@brunobrito9997 Nothing you said is untrue, and I'm no Gordon hater by any means... I'm simply saying... He's getting weird and wasn't that impactful... Any medium good looking tall guy on steroids with a decent level of jits would have done just fine... I would argue a more honest charismatic not pathological personality would have done much better... Even if 10% less talented.
@@terrycrawford3164 I see your point mate
It’s legal. It’s not cheating. To see the absolute best and surpass human limits this is what people want to see. Best solution is to create two separate leagues.
@kevins320 No, I don't like to see juiced up low frequency idiots muscle each other into submission... I prefer to watch clean athletes perform at their highest ability.
Just correcting: here in Brazil it is not THAT easy to buy steroids... You need a medical prescription, and even for the doctors it is quite complicated to prescribe, because they can't prescribe testosterone or other compounds if you your system is running well, so it is a fragile topic here and the government is making it more dificult (yes, f***king burocrats being burocrats). Anyway, other than that, you can buy from black market, but then it is by your own risk (the same in US I am pretty sure)
If only all athletes and influencers were this candid, the world would be a better place
It's like Gordon is saying he's on steroids without saying he's on steroids 😂
You can’t really argue with what he’s saying. He’s 100% on point. It just creates inequality where only rich fighters can benefit from the current system. Problem is he had to take the position of arguing in favour of steroids to make the point and that ends up being the main takeaway for 90% of people.
Nice try Diddy
WOW just WOW
I love how his argument against Mike is " yeah but he's been on like every team"
You should be banned from competing
ban him then😂
and you from comenting
@ have you just take your shot? And thinking competing on steroids are just normal
@@Misfitsaimon it is
in every sport
every record in every sport is made by cheaters
Says the dude who has never trained ever, and still watches cartoons
It isn't a moral code only, it significantly lowers your lifespan. To which I'm sure Gordan would respond "Yeah, well are you willing to die for the sport you love? I am".
Moral high ground? The pot calling the kettle black, Ryan? So, because there is no governing body, PED use is okay? But Ryan takes it further. He states that PED use is justified because it makes you look better! LOL! Wow, I didn’t know fashion was part of the art. Ryan goes on to say this is what people want to see. Really? Uh, I go to sporting events to see skill, not what a guy looks like.
Ryan goes on to justify that PED use should be allowed because of the expense for keeping PED’s out of sports. Hey Ryan, it’s called fairness. It certainly appears that if Ryan had his way, PED use should be used in all sports - at all levels. If that’s the case, Ryan, where do you draw the line when it comes to age? You want all high school athletes using PED’s too?
Narcisist and cheating mentality
Very odd rant. I didn't know Mikey was referring to him until now. This is his argument? The best is whoever has the best drugs? Comical.
That's odd considering Mikey literally called him out by name lol, maybe don't just listen to 4 second clips
He never denies taking the juice lol
No legit sanctioned company is gonna willing let athletes that are on juice compete. 1 organization needs to buy up all the little BJJ organization and clean them up
Bjj tournaments can't afford steroid testing, he's using that fact to say they're allowed and it's just nonsense. Mikey is trying to elevate the sport and Gordon is too dumb and has too big of an ego to just admit he shouldn't be using them.
dumb people don't reach the top,people know bjj because of ufc and Gordon ryan
@@rezahosseini7986bjj was known way before gordon lmao
What a coward. Backed into a prideful corner COMPLETELY of his own making.
Coward? He's put it on the line with all the top and best in the world over and over and over on the highest platforms even when he knew he might underperform because of his illness. Even knowing he'd never hear the end of it from the whole world if he loses.
@simpsthreedee3818
I didn't mean that kind of cowardice.
Called Mikey everything but a liar. Tells me everything I need to know about Gordon.
Gordon Ryan and Jon Jones are good friends and i can see why 💊💉
Bro literally described his rivals when he defined stars.
thats the funniest justifcation of steroids in sport ive heard..
Gordons ped use is the only reason his gut is screwed. Yet he promotes the widespread use of them. 😂
Imagine legalize them for everyone.
In a couple of years we will see people with 3 arms competing 😂😂
Jon jones i see you
Everyone is on steroids - Nate Diaz
just say you cheat in mikey wont name you anymore
Not a cheat if its not against the ruleset.
The UFC was basically built on the shoulders of a 26 year old, 178 Lb Brazilian grappler who wasn't jacked at all. Joyce Gracie's incredibly skill and willpower single handedly changed the face of combat sports in the US. Somebody needs to clue Gordon in. Nobody gives 2 5hits if he's "shredded". Every time I hear Gordon defend his use of PED's, all I hear is a guy who is ok admitting to the world that he couldn't hack it without them.
I don't lnoe what everyone is calling him a fraud or a cheat he is clearly admitting he's on it and saying almost everyone else is ! He doesn't want to lose....he didn't for a long long time.....and now he does like near everyone else ...the rules shud make things more even
Where in Brasil do you get PED over rhe counter? Been there many times and my perception is that you really have to go through a corrupt doctor to get them. How hard it is to find one is another case. I tried to buy antibiotics in smaller pharmacy and thwy wouldn give me without a pescription.
Thats the way here in brazil, you can buy underground gear but you know this is not good product. To have real good quality steroids you have to go to corrupt doctors, who charge you a lot of money for the prescriptions.
You are right. I live in Brazil, no pharmacy I know of would sell anabolics, like you said, antibiotics, codeine, any psychotherapy drugs, only with prescription. And most GPS won't prescribe them, only specialists.
BTW whoever he went against were also on steroids so he is not the only one . So i do not think that steroids helped him win so many matches
Like a pro bodybuilder he is jeopardizing his long life expectations
To call Mikey fake....is 💯 idiotic
Mikey Musumeci spoke the true
No roids Mikey smashes Gordon and he knows it
Just no
Don’t blame the athletes, blame the organizations.
NO - blame BOTH.
_OBVIOUSLY._
only one grandpa that
grandpa: leave me alone 🥺🥺🥺😔😔😔
Its easy to not want to switch team as a high level competitor when your coach is Danaher.
The truth is inconvenient
3:54 u shouldn’t have to be juiced to beat the juiced. Change your jiu jitsu.
You absolutely do. At peak level, against elite of the elite where the gap between their bjj level is extremely tiny, strength makes the difference. And since everyone assumes everyone else is taking PED, then everybody does as a self realising prophecy. Testing is the only way
This guy has white guilt
Gordon could literally prove he is the best ever by competing natural and I think I would still beat everyone. Unfortunately something got in his head that he had to use peds.
Is the secret in duck eggs or horse meat? I can never tell with this guy. lol
This is embarrassing 🤦🏽♂️
Everyone did the same thing to that first guy in the colosseum to say he wants to use weapons. He just wanted to enhance his chances of surviving and entertaining the crowd 😂
Lol basically Gordon is complaining that people on PEDs have an unfair advantage over people without PEDs , so you should take PEDs 😂
Would love to see him go against Bo nickal
He already faced Bo in a grappling match...but of course MMA is a different thing
@ again since bo probably a lot better in his bjj game
He leaves teams after he learns what he needs injust chemically enhance my abilities to take advantage of my opponents
Ppl don't just want to see the best athletes compete, they want to place wagers on the athletes. The rules are in place for the gamblers not forbthe athletes.
This is sickening... so again one just have to take them because his mental gymnastics ... this is sad
The thing is, Mikey is winning thanks only to pizza and pasta.
It’s almost like these comments think that the UFC is clean lol
Just so weird. PEDs are illegal in the US. He talks like it is cotton candy or something. Why not just use amphetamines for the performance enhancing effects? Why not do heroin so you feel less pain? This argument does not make sense.
I agree with everything Gordon said. All the good players are on juice. Lebron juice, NFL juice, baseball was great when juice was going on. Fighting dont know about that because you could really hurt someone in a fight.
Bro... Gordan looks pale, is he sick?
Agree with Mikey 💯
How so?
Sounds like a smart man moving on when you cannot learn more from your current location. Does not mean you forgot them. Just a silly cop out to his fake body filled with enhancement drugs.
He’s all over the place in this interview 😢
Great!!
Anyone else with good ears who CANNOT stand that ringing noise? I could barely tolerate the inteview.
Gordon has a very interesting outlook on things
He's not wrong
Not a fan of the butt scooter Mikey but arguing for ped use is shameful
I don't think he is wrong though, there are a lot of new drugs not tested for and being used by people in the big sports. Other countries are doing what he says about hiring doctors and chemists. That is the reality. There is a famous story about USA vs Russia in the 60's Olympics and the creation of Dianabol. It was a war of who had the best drugs. It hasn't changed much since then. But people pretend that isn't real. What is the main argument against PED use?
This applies more to the heavyweight classes. Mikey and the Ruotolo brothers fighting at their natural weight is also commendable. Graig Jones is open about it, he doesn't get much crap but Gordon does. Why is that?
Oldest young guy
He for sure shot some steroids up right after the conference 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
You’re on Steroids brother, Mikey is not fake for changing teams.
Eh, his point makes sense. Ya'll just hating for hating-sake.
Until a governing body is installed and sets the boundaries, then no rules are being broken. I would personally prefer no steroids but you can't blame anyone for using them if they are legal. An edge is an edge, and the argument for pro-steroid leagues is that if all people are on them, then the playing field is equal anyway and you get to see physical freaks. The physical freak aspect is fun to watch, but creates unrealistic standards for up and coming kids into the sport.
Mikey: steroids are bad for the sport
Gordon: why are you attacking me
😂
well, if you use steroids\PED's its high key hard to respect that. i cant speak for everyone but, if i know that some meatheads are using PED\steroids and are fighting, ill turn the contest off. ill also make sure that my kids understand using is NOT a true athlete move, nor is it a HEALTHY move.
defending the PED usage is absolutely outlandish.
Well, then you're not going to like sports or the UFC because they're all on PDS, whether it's for recovery everybody's juice in one way or another cortisone shots painkillers before matches and events🎉 nobody wants to watch Regular People that's boring
@@JacobsNews agree to disagree on literally all of that. You may like watching juice heads. but not everyone (as u cant speak for everyone interested in sports nor another person in general). not to mention ppl are forced to watch them. You must just be an avid gordon ryan fan. and defending something like PEDs no matter the situation is objectively outlandish.
@Rahzarusfilms that's just because you don't know that athletes are allowed to take steroids in sports it's under the TUE rules . It's not your fault that most people don't know anything about the rules of steroids in sports
it’s funny people think that taking steroids makes your grappling IQ better.
What a joke
As Diaz boys said…. Everyone on steroids 😂😂😂😂😂