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The Untold Story | Gordon Ryan | Straight Outta The Lair Podcast Ep33
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- Опубликовано: 22 дек 2022
- On this episode of Straight Outta The Lair I talk with, The King, Gordon Ryan. He is considered the greatest no gi, Brazilian jiu-jitsu competitor to ever live. We talk about the medical issues that almost ended his career, the parallels with my own experience, and the link they have to mental health. It was a real privilege to speak with this humble champion just days before his competition. I hope you enjoy it.
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I'm a BJJ guy, and I only follow bodybuilding passively, but I have to say Flex, you're a very good interviewer, and I never knew that. Definitely earned a sub from me. Keep up the good work, Sir.
Another great interview Flex with Gordon. Glad you were able to finally find the right specialist to properly diagnose and treat you Gordon. Physical health, mental health, and the proper mindset can never be discussed enough. Thanks guys! 💪🏼
Your world Lesley. Thank you 🎉
Gordans a super interesting guy. The way he trains both bjj & free weights etc, eats and sets himself up to be the best and successful on and off the mats is fascinating. Love hearing guys like him tell their stories. Flex & Gordan collabs need to keep happening!
Gordon is a beast his mentality to be number 1 is a reminder of my mindset on my path to the best. Many more collabs to come 💯
@@FlexLewisStraightOuttaTheLair yeah I find your story/back ground and his both fascinating how many similarities there are even though it's two totally different sports. Being number 1 and remaining number 1 crosses over. Hope to hear and see more collabs with you and him! Merry Christmas and happy New Year, hope you and your family have a great holiday weekend! Cheers Brotha!
note: when he says the top Dr figured it out by testing him for "myotoxins" he means "mycotoxins" - just fyi in case anyone's seeking answers for their own health struggles. (myotoxins=in snake venom / mycotoxins=toxins from certain fungi that f- you up)
Great info thanks 👍
Damn, I really thought he had in snake poison. Much thanks
Thank you
That’s his northeast accent
@@johntracy9753 Could be for sure...I'm from that area & we're stingy with syllables sometimes lol. But, both being uncommon words in everyday speech they're so easily mixed up. I commented just in case it'd help someone wanting to look into it for their own health issues etc
Gordon is the definition of excellence
You forgot "douche" also
@@Becky_Honkington i dont think someone who backs up their confidence is a douche. I know people who have met gordon personally and say he's alright.
true. ... but taking antibiotics for recurring staff for so long is stupid a.f. its mental to not use better soap or figure out how to protect yourself better. but the mind it takes to still keep going with such an illness is just ... excellence.
Of steroid homosexual
100% agree regardless of the haters! 83% sub rate tying Rodger Gracie and 90+ wins with only 17 that weren’t subs. Not only those unbelievable stats, but he then calls how he’s going to beat the guy and gives it to the announcer before to read afterwards. That’s a savage right there. I’d say definitely the definition of excellence.
I watch all of Gordon’s interviews but this is the best so far. So relaxed and he’s given time to talk.
Gordon is the GOAT in BJJ and grappling arts. A living legends that we all can learn from. He's young and did a lot and earned a lot which people envy and get jealous over. I respect Gordon and Flex for their dedication to their chosen craft and art. Hope Gordon continues in competition and helping to expand the art of BJJ even more. God bless you both and many returns
I've also dealt with my fair share stomach problems, and to hear two people that are very very accomplished also deal with these issues and succeed makes me feel a lot better and gives me motivation. Thank you for sharing your experiences, great episode!
I'm a MASSIVE sports fan, all around.
I always appreciate the very best a sport has to offer and Gordon is just that.
He's truly is LIGHT-YEARS away from the competition.
💯💯💯
First episode of this I’ve ever listened to. Really impressed by Flex and his interview style. Great podcast.
As someone who’s battled with Ulcerative Colitis/IBS to the point where I was shitting blood 12-15x a day, it’s inspiring to know that these two champions have battled similar issues and made it through ✊🏼 God bless ❤️
It's from his steroid abuse. Do your research
@@Becky_Honkington is that why GSP and Brock Lesnar also had similar issues?
Gordon THANK YOU for talking about the link between gut health and mental health. This is something that isn’t discussed enough. I’m on the autism spectrum and have found that when I don’t care for the health of my vagus nerve, everything falls apart. Many people on the autism spectrum have gut issues because of the disorder of their vagus nerve. If we can reorient the conversation about mental health to include gut health, it will help so much. Thank you for talking about this important issue
Please tell me more! I have pancreas and gullbladder issues that are beating up my vagus nerve. I need help
Had the same story with my stomach problems, it was super difficult to find a doctor that could actually help
I hope this info might be relayed to Gordon somehow, but I’m a student in psychology and I’ve recently been researching and experimenting with neurotransmitter precursors and amino acids. Fluctuations in my brain chemistry through experimenting has sometimes given me extreme nausea. I read a paper recently which stated that serotonin released into the gut faster than it can be digested may also cause extreme nausea. It would definitely be worthwhile looking at any meds supplements etc you are taking that might be causing neurotransmitter fluctuations and/or even blood pressure changes like caffeine or 5htp for example. Otherwise these fluctuations might be happening naturally as a maladaptive biological response to stress (training/competing). Also high serotonin levels would make you feel less hungry due its ability to increase satiety. Maybe that fungal infection is causing neurotransmitter fluctuations
This was a great podcast to listen to. Thanks for this episode Flex.
The best to ever do it the king Gordon!!!
awesome episode!
I could relate, Antibiotics after a car accident in a 3rd world country really fucked up my gut microbiome, quitting smoking and drinking and changing diet is helping but it’s still a struggle. Great interview 🙌🏾
Man I've been dealing w stomach issues for a while too (nowhere as severe) but I got a lot of the same symptoms he talks about and it is definitely a shitty feeling. Thank god in my case fixing my diet seemed to fix it but makes me respect gordon so much more
there is a thin line between confidence and arrogance… everyone gets humbled one day
I have had all the same stomach problems for a long time, I went to all the doctors, took all the medications, nothing worked. After 10 years of doctors telling me they couldn't figure it out and just give me bogus diagnosis, I decided to stop seeing doctors all together and only tried natural remedies. Honestly the two things that worked for me was swallowing raw garlic every other night, just about 2 to 3 cloves of raw garlic and sometimes during the day. Also swallowing unprocessed coconut oil. Both kill all the bad viruses, bacteria and fungus in the stomach and intestines. You should stick with natural because these medications will only make you worse and actually make more stomach problems. Even though all my gut illnesses are gone, from all those years of medication, there is physical damage to my stomach/intestine lining so my digestion is not perfect but it's manageable. Also very important. Cut the sugar down, sugar feeds all bad bacterias , fungus and viruses. Basically you want to starve them and burn them out with the raw garlic cloves. And never take any medications. Doctors only make money from procedures and medicine. They cant make money on garlic and coconut oil and anything natural so they will never mention it.
Two legends shooting the breeze great video and the gym session too
Excellent interview!
🤜🏻🤛🏻
Statistics don’t lie! Gordon Ryan is the No Gi GOAT 🐐- I know people who’ve met him and he’s the nicest guy in the world - Flex, this was my favourite interview that you’ve done bro, excellent and insightful questions
Ive met gord, at adcc 2022, where every athlete left except him and he stayed 3h to sign and take pics lol. Gord is fkn awesome and nice in person
@@BJJANDMTG that’s awesome man, we were there as well but could never seem to catch up to him - osss
Excited for this one, two awesome dudes!
Like when he emphasizes that his supreme confidence wasn't a "fake it til u make it" thing; he gradually built it up through obsessive training, never satisfied with his skill set no matter the success. But I'd distinguish between that and the fact that for years GR seemed to have a knack for expressing/exuding confidence so effectively at competitions (via body language etc). You could argue that they're two sides of the same coin, but across competitive sports there's always competitors who excel more than others at the "mental game" before/after/during competition...and they're def not always the most skilled. When an athlete IS super dominant at both the mental & physical games - Michael Jordan, for one - it's a rare pleasure to take in as a fan. i think GR's in that rare group past couple yrs, but the question is can he keep it up long enough to make his legacy enduring legend.
I went septic with Staph infection at 14 from a ingrown toenail. I was on a family vacation in PA. I woke up with a narley infected toenail. But we we’re all going to a theme park that day so as a kid you just fight through it.
By that night I had the worst hip pain I’ve ever felt in my life. At this point I’ve already broken over 8 bones and that didn’t hold a candle to this pain. So my mother brought me to the nearest hospital. I had a 105 temp crying my eyes out in pain. The hospital never drew blood. They kept thinking I had a injury from the roller coasters at the theme park. They literally did nothing for three days but give me shots of morphine in my ass.
Finally on the third day my mom told them to transfer me to another hospital. I don’t remember any of this on that final day. All I remember was waking up out of surgery on my hip in Pittsburgh children’s hospital. They figured it out right away and went in and flushed out the Staph infection but from it sitting in there for 3 days it destroyed my hip. My leg quit growing from age 14. So once I left the hospital to fly back home they put me on oral antibiotics and the infection came back so I had another surgery at 15 back home in Florida.
After that surgery they ran a pic line to my heart and I was on IV antibiotics for 3 months. Walked on crutches for 2 years they didn’t want to replace my hip so young but the doctor said go as long as you can until you can. I made it to 30 when I had a total hip replacement. I’ll be 40 in 2 days.
But the moral to this story is I’ve had mystery illnesses pretty much this whole time. I get sick really easy. I’m just now learning it’s gut related from all that trauma on top of so much heavy antibiotics but all these doctors around me can’t figure it out. My lymph nodes are constantly swollen, bad sinus infections, mucus build up, nausea, anxiety, it’s outta hand. Unfortunately these doctors only know how to treat the symptoms which is more antibiotic use for them to fill out. Instead of getting to the root cause. I don’t have the money to hire these top of the line doctors. Unfortunately it’s a lot of suffering but it’s really nice to hear Gordon talk about it to where I know I’m not crazy I bet I’m dealing with something extremely similar. I remember I was tested for 3 different types of mold toxicity like 7 years ago I came back positive with 2 of them. But that doctors protocol didn’t work.
I know there’s hope I just have to find the right doctor that can get to the root of the problem!
Darko velcek look him up
Came across this because of Gordon and know absolutely nothing about weight lifting, but Flex seems like a really cool guy.
Great interview 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Flex você é um cara muito humilde,e é por isso que merece ser abençoado por Deus!!!
What a great podcast!
Awesome interview
I really like the approach flex is doing here in speaking with non BB/gym-specific related athletes. Great interview as I find Gordon rather interesting.
Gordon Ryan, please try Turkey Tail Mushrooms. You can get them as a pill or extract. I’d recommend the extract from Host Defense. It could really be a game changer. 🤞🏼🙏🏼
Same thing here was on antibiotics every week due to skin infections, and eating right now isn't the same. Been 6 months free they gave me a low stomach acid pill which helps out a ton but the nausea remains the same.
Careful with antacids. They have their own longterm risks. Get to the root cause of the issue if possible.
I haven't been on them since 5 months ago along with the NSAIDS it has definitely created some problem though. Slowly but surely my appetites comming back he is so right about eating 2 eggs and feeling full for the rest of the day when you train hard.
2 Monsters !!! 💪
The first topic blew my mind I’m currently going though simulator things acid reflux Nausea Had to change diet only eat fish lacto free Mille, eggs can’t put weigh on at all ,docs ain’t got a clue I’m 32 10st 6 was 13,7st when a was 17 This was really helpful Thanks guys! Merry Xmas 🎄
Would love more Jiu jitsu interviews. Subscribed.
Damn antibiotics caused me to get c diff and the UC. Brutal.
For a person with social anxiety, this was surprisingly helpful 56:27. I'm not being ironic. Gordon's confidence is infectous and inspiring.
Speak for yourself, thats awful to just tell people suffering from anxiety to shut up and deal with it. Shit like that is why so many men feel like they cant talk about their problems and end up ruining their lives with addiction problems or killing themselves. Actually a horribly toxic mindset and I cant believe you would try to encourage that. Real men talk about their problems and use them as a way to lift others up, not shit on them.
The thing is. You can fix anxiety, but most are to afraid and to ingrained in their coping mechanisms to change anything.
Nobody can deal with this for you, you have to do it yourself.
People get tired of having to cope with the fallout and collateral damage these coping mechanisms put people around them through.
It doesn't matter how you deal with it, but you and only you can.
So instead of whining about how terrible anxiety is, why not just deal with it?
Not everyone can be helped. That is just a terrible fact of life
@@Karanar I’m not saying not to deal with anxiety. I’m saying telling men not talk about it is absolutely fucked and is the reason men kill themselves at such a higher rate than women. Shut the fuck up and gtfo with your toxic ass mind set. Edit: you’ve clearly never had someone close to you kill themselves. I just wish they had told me they were struggling.
What a great interview!
Knock knock
Gordon: who's there
UFC: we are UFC and we want to talk about contract
Gordon: sure
Knock knock
UFC : Please open the door, that's my friend USADA
Gordon: I earn more than UFC fighters , please take your friend first and leave
stomah ulcers stopped me from competing. I would've loved to have faced gordon. I got the chance to face lachlan years ago as a blue belt i believe. I started 09, blue belt 10, purple belt 12 and in 14/15 i got a stomach ulcer, poor diet and sex apparently when i spoke to a specialist. SAme thing took me 6-8 months nothing worked, lost 10KG couldnt' train and finally the one specialist gave me some advice, with a lot and i mean a lot of effort i could feel healthy for 6 months at a time I got the point I could train maybe once a week and spend 2 weeks recovering to avoid the pain.
I'm glad ive found ArmWrestling to stay competitive, but my life is still controlled by my stomach pain.
Flex and Gordon! Awesome
I love Gordon
Thumbnail should be the new Grindr logo
I'm dying laughing, this was great
😂😂😂😂
Great stuff Flex!!!! Awesome episode!
The fact that Gordon is 6’2 at 260 is crazy💀
When you are skilled, talk trash, and you are smart, sky is the limit. Great intery
That's 1 intelligent, stone cold killer 💯%
Really enjoyed this 👍
My stomach is messed up since I moved to the US from Germany too.
gut issues - definitely go to Gabrielle Lyon... She is an expert and she can help out
Gordon Ryan: "GSP doesn't have a mean bone in his body." Try telling that to Josh Koscheck!🤣
imagine destroying best BJJ guys in the world with this horrible disease, i got stomach pain on my right side for years, after so many tests it`s still unanswered and it kills my mood to do normal daily stuff let alone training and competing
Theres a connection in the body called the gut brain axis. There's a DIRECT link between stomach issues and the brain. Look it up.
Gordon being your anxiety is bad , yes the Vagus Nerve which stem from the brain , to the heart , and stomach , you can get anxiety from stomach issues , they are VERY related
Gordon Ryan is awesome! I First Got to know who he was when he had matches against Bo Nickel, and then Pat Downey and I didn't like him. Lol thenl I got to know what he was about. The guy Is the best In the world and has really revolutionized his sport. Much respect!
Does anybody know this gastro doctor Gordon is talking about ?
Great podcast!
Did doctor say this was stemming from hygiene? Wondering if training no-gi causing you to pick up infections from all the sweat from bodies or mats not being clean. Also wonder if there is any comparison health wise between gi and no gi.
the antibiotics for staph are totally differant than the antibiotics for gut stuff. The gut antibiotics are commonly accidently prescribed for the skin ones.
Outstanding conversation gentleman 🤙
Thank you 🎉
Great podcast
kinda blows ur mind: how recently our health care science started really acknowledging gut flora as a serious factor in overall health. Granted, there was always plenty of study on diet/nutrition but it wasn't until 21st century that mainstream medical science accepted that gut flora can have a huge impact on issues as disparate as whole-body inflammation/immune response, even mental health! Since there's a whole universe of different microbe types - good, bad, and somewhere in between - it'll be a LONG time before we get a fair handle on it. Of course that doesn't stop people from making bank off of selling products with all kinds of claims in the meantime
Gordon Breaks records like no ones business including most consecutive days on antibiotics 😅
The GOAT is in the house
Also did food taste normal until you got ready to swallow it like changes taste at the back of your tongue I'm really struggling with this
I really need to know did you all have any type of pain around your stomach pantline man I've been going through some for last year and it sounds a lot like what you guys are talkin about I mean like exactly
How do you gain weight and muscle with constant stomach issues and nausea? The bland diet described here is NOT calorie dense which means you have to eat a larger volume of it, but how's that possible with such nausea? 🤔
Milk these days has all the probiotics killed from pasteurization, which is causing a lot of stomach weakness in people. God put the prebiotics in their for a reason. Working towards getting a cow because my stomach rarely feels good and I feel the mental health side Gord was talking about. Makes me lazy, but this vid has me feeling like working out so much thanks !!!
omg this looks like mi! medics cant find the problem! its crazy how he go to competition like this
Aloe vera,not the skin aloe vera, but the edible kind. Cinnamon also works for digestion. Stay away from tablets
Flex is a really good interviewer. Doesn't interrupt and let the person talk. That took Joe Rogan 5 plus years to Master, Flex has done it almost instantly. Props Flex. Keep doing what you do
Gordon is the man
Dope content!
Enjoyed this one Flex and really interesting to see how much you's actually have in common 🤣. Now we wait for your jiu-jitsu journey to start 👀
A great chat. Good chemistry. As a physician who has applied the holistic and psychological arts to my practice, I really feel your suffering.
There is a lot of stress that athletes like yourselves accumulate, some of this is physical, but each holds an internal, deeper sub conscious imprint too. Getting to grips with physical symptoms is always about addressing both.
Struggling with chronic pain myself and unable to compete with myself let alone others currently, but will find a way. However, medical acupuncture, hypnosis and psycho physical recovery is the way.
Pm me if you would like some tips, tricks and help.
Hey guys, anyone knows the name of the stomach doctor that actually fixed his issue? Sorry I missed it. I think he said something like dr. Rahbar
one appointment costs close to 1500$. Its crazy
Paul Saladino MD would be good to talk to.
UFC Fight Pass needs to take over the rights for filming ADCC from Flograppling. As soon as they do that, I will make the switch.
Do steroids play a part of the stomach problem they discussed in the start? Any former users went through same experience after injecting hormones in their body?
Steroids? He's an all natural athlete.
hey it's that guy the reporter was swooning over
HOLY FUCK. I’ve been dealing with very similar gut issues for over a year. Constant nausea, bad bowel movements, gas, burping, horrible mental effects (acute episodes of extreme feelings of dread, and chronic embattled feeling where life is a constant struggle). Never had mental problems in the past. Only recently has the nausea and mentality gotten a little better. I don’t have $100k to spend on that doctor though, so I just hope things get better through my diet and probiotics regimen. I’ve learned nobody gives a fuck about your health except you (of course! but I didn’t fully understand that).
Perhaps you have gullbladder/bile issues
do you smoke a lot of weed?
Can the use of steroids cause these same stomach issues?
Has anyone considered that STEROIDS could be what is screwing up your guts?
I started BJJ in 2014 and have mad respect for him but I have this doubt in my head. Gordon, ( i now u read every coment) Would you be able to beat Roger Gracie?
Rogers awesome but Gordon would kill him
No Gi Gordon wins,Prime Rodger wins in the Gi is about right
@@kerrywilliams8030 Old Jiujitsu vs fancy leglocks (vinnie magalhães, Pena 2x) ... Versus Roger Gracie who beat 13 gold champion & young Marcos Buchecha!
4:00 if u have his problems
Check ur cervical spine atlas, and check if ur vagus nerve is pinched by ur cervical…
Trust me
i wanna see gordan vs fowler
반지는 그 순간 빛을 내지만 행복은 사라진 뒤에야 빛을 내느니라.
His mindset....its everything...average guy cant train 7 days a week 3 times a day....now do that with stomach problems...thats someone on a different level.....period
Hey Gordon, im one of your biggest fans. Love watching your matches over and over.
But lets get real, u 20 yrs ahead??
Clearly the last NickyRod fight showed that to be untrue.
He was in fact closer to sub than u.
Interesting Welsh Accent. I almost thought he was a White Jamaican based on his accent.
Podcasts need to include timestamps in 2022
Holding off until 2023 to see if it’s still fashionable, then I might.
@@FlexLewisStraightOuttaTheLair Retention will increase. Algo likes it
Noted!!! 🤜🏻🤛🏻
27 !!!
Bro I spend an hour or more in the bathroom every day but I’m getting high not throwing up lol maybe I’ll use that excuse to my family that I’m throwing up
Gordon please tell you that you tried probiotics? They work for me big time
Massive amounts of Tren causes stomach issues
all in the food we eat.
Gordon wants to look like Luke Thomas so bad.
Flex has a man crush