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if you talk to victor at Boulder City and say: 'I don't like being followed, robot.' Victor will say: 'Now-now, it ain't my fault that Dorothy and the Tin Man happened to be on the same yellow-striped road, is it?'.
@@nvRanger I'd recommend watching Return To Oz then. You'd be surprised how many parallels there are with F3 specifically and the theme of childhood vs. Adult world. The Nome King is President Eden in various ways, even down to the AI aspect that you'll see. Both Fallout and WoO take on the challenge of presenting America in fantastical terms. So it's only natural that parallels would emerge. There's a lot of potential for a multihour deep dive on the books and the games, but I don't have the time or equipment atm.
I was thinking about getting the books. Got a big brothers Grimm collection I’m reading thru now. I had no idea Return to Oz existed. I’ll check it out
@@nvRanger luckly you're conveniently "knocked out" (from being shot in the head) when he does that-- "how knows what doc Mitchell does to you" when victor brings you to him
@@nvRanger I got a PS4 specifically to play The Last of Us, Witcher 3 and Bloodborne. It took me awhile get into FromSoftware games but once it finally clicked it's made other action games feel much less satisfying and much less difficult. Bloodborne is very fast, very bloody and very weird.
I have two close friends who swear by fromsoft games. I’ve tried dark souls and Elden ring, just never clicked but I never gave it enough time I guess. Hoping Sony allows bloodbourne to come to steam some day
Ed-e could be Toto, a figure from the protagonist past life (Kansas and the divide) which leads the protagonist into a rabbit hole (Lonesome Road, and The land of Oz) while being a sturdy and loyal companion
God that intro was spell-binding, absolutely brilliant way to rethink this game and it's narrative path, gave me shivers the entire time! Well done man!
I cant help imagine for the raiders to be minding there buiness only to be attack by someone armed with black riot ranger armour, survivalist rifle while whistling "we off to see the wizard" to themself while doing warcrimes
In all these years of playing the game and thinking about it, I never even made a correlation as yours. It's a well spotted paralelism and obviously well presented thanks to your effort, thanks man
Saw this and had an instant, "Oh? Oh..." moment as thoughts raced through my head of characters and connections. Glad to say, some were the same and others were different. A great video and an amazing parallel drawn!
Yea it's so similar it seems intentional but fallout terminals have often depicted green text or image- thinking the OG Fallout character presets (which look almost exactly like House on his monitor)
my mom loves the wizard of oz, never played new vegas i love new vegas, never seen the wizard of oz we watched this video together and it was genuinely a very great bonding moment thank you so much brother
Beautiful video, incredibly well written and edited, and a great choice of music. Keep putting out stuff like this and this channel will go to the moon.
Contrary to popular belief, The Land of Oz is a real place in the world of WoZ, it isn’t an apart of dream because Dorothy was isekaied into The Land of Oz. Dorothy thinking it was a dream was probably just the magic inside her trying to protect her psyche from realising what she actually experienced.
I always had a deep respect to Mr. House. He build this place, he defended it from atomic fire, he rebuilds it, he controls it. It is truly his grand work. A Beacon, A jewel in a desert. Not legion, those foolish Rome followers could keep it running, not NCR who wants to capture it for its own needs, Not a Yes-Man and the Courier, without any experience could run such complex place. Only Him. Thats why I side with him, and follow his, not orders, but tasks? As his right hand I’d do anything to keep Vegas running ;D especially when I can benefit the only “luxury” this desert saved from pre war times. That’s a dream scenario for a person who was born after atomic blast and was struggling to survive in the desert. And now, when you found your Home, you’ll do anything to protect it. Ha :D
I often feel similar, so I definitely don't totally disagree. There's just something about his attempt to transcend to in a god like figure while he holds that last bastion of hope to be concerning. He has too much leverage if he gets his way. Then do his true colors come out? He's probably the most powerful and capable Fallout figure if you do his ending to the fullest, and that's saying something.
@@nkdmstar I'll hopefully get a mod list out soon, too many to list here. New Vegas Reloaded, Desert Natural Weathers, Wasteland Arsenal Project, and Drags various NPC overhauls to name some presented often, here.
I agree that it has many parallels with OZ and till you said it I didn't think of OZ once while playing. I don't know lit too well but I feel the hero journey has been tweaked to fit so many stories that it maybe the direct reference could have been some work that OZ had used when that book was written. To me it felt like a Greek myth were House sent you out to do a trial of hercules or the journey home of the odyssey specially when you try to cut straight north you are blown south on some grand quest(forget the deathclaws those damn cazadors were the organic fence)
Great idea there, I love Greek myth and those two stories especially so. I am sure their are parallels but there are some direct references in Fallout games to Oz, so I think some of what I mentioned is somewhat intentional. Here's a quote from the wiki on OWB: "In Old World Blues, Dr. Mobius refers to a group of murderers who were looking for a heart, a brain, and courage or a spine, which they had all along."
I have first thought this when first play new vegas an met house for the first time with his big tv screen an security bots at either sides, though the KING is the real wizard of oz vegas, (as the B movie Six String Samurai) a hidden gem of a movie of those who havent heard of it- from the late 90s
I think Veronica fits the role of the lion more than arcade, her main conflict is one of self identity within the brotherhood, and Veronica has much more of a character arc imo
fair enough, i love the comparison. I agree that Veronica is much more fleshed out but in fairness her quest ties into the BoS questline, the Followers barely have a questline. I think Arcade's past with a nearly destroyed group is much like the Lion in Oz. Society is done with them, moved on. The Lion cannot act like a Lion in this world and Arcade cannot act like Enclave (his parents) in this world. This need to change without a guide or role model paralizes them both. No one around them is like them, no one can understand their problems. Veronica is surrounded by people like her, she's the one who wants to enact change.
I suppose it too low hanging fruit to make the cut but regarding the Tin-Man parallel, Boone's job, functionally, is to just stand in one spot and not move just like the Tin-Man is discovered to be doing. No rust metaphors required to make it fit lol
Holy Moley! The moment I saw the thumbnail I thought "damn... that's interesting... let's check this out", and oh boy did it not disappoint me! First reaction is that "yeah I guess there are some parallels between Mr. House and Oz" but the moment the first montage hit me it was cemented. The montage was a fantastic juxtaposition of Mr. H and Oz, really striking, and the editing further on forward was great. I don't think the parallels you put forward are a stretch, although maybe not fully intended or at least not meant to be too strong, you really brought out these in a manner that made them believable. I will have to check out the rest of the channel, because if this is any proof, then the rest must be also good. Lastly, what are the mods you're using? Maybe I'll find it on the rest of the channel but I'd appreciate if you did provide it here. Also I appreciate the listing of music used (not that I particularly care about any in the video but it always annoys me when I hear something good and the uploader doesn't provide a list. Props to you for including it!).
Really glad you enjoyed, I love the break down of your reaction. It’s a joy to read. I’ll be honest I think this is one of my better videos, I knew I was gonna be at risk with copyright using Oz footage so I just disabled monetization and used all the music I’d like. I don’t wanna trash my own stuff but I’m definitely a work in progress. My previous videos show that. In terms of mods I’ll work on a list soon. There are hundreds and I’m busy wrapping up college. New Vegas Reloaded, Desert Natural Weathers, WAP, and Drags various NPC overhauls are some heavily relevant to this videos footage
@@nvRanger I'm going to cut it straight with you bro, I haven't played the first two games in their entirety, but the writing I have seen is superior to anything that Bethesda came out with. New Vegas is Really a completely different game from fallout 3. I'm 45, and after having played both on PlayStation 3, and only on PlayStation 3, the contrast is stark. Todd Howard, and his hand-picked cronies at ZeniMax, is a pretender to the throne that former Interplay employees at Obsidian deserve to claim. They're Trash. If New Vegas had been given the time it needed, it would further cement its place in the franchise history. I sincerely appreciate the time and effort put into this excellent video. You deserve at least 10 times the subscribers you have. Meeting you have earned my subscription!
Pre-watch prediction: In order of when you meet them, Cass is the scarecrow, because she wants to think up a revenge scheme for her caravan (kinda lame but the best I could do), Boone is the tin man because he lost his heart the night his wife died and he needs to find a new meaning to life, and Veronica is the lion because she needs to find the courage to either confront her family or cut ties and walk away. I look forward to seeing how wildly off-base I am lol I got Boone right!
Awesome, love that you did a pre watch prediction. Spot on with Boone and I like where your head is at for Veronica. I’ve heard others go in a similar direction.
This is such an interesting take on the story of both fnv and Woz. I've seen countless people disect this game but none have done it quite like this. Also the use of Lana del rey's "Paris, Texas" is super cool, I love her songs and it's great to see two interest collide. This is an amazing video. Excuse the glaze
Wait which is the sample from Lana? I actually like some of her music a lot but none of this was directly from her, all the songs are listed in the desc, i'm curious. Aside from that, really appreciate the kind words, glaze or not. Worked hard on this one so it means a lot.
@@nvRanger Oh my bad, it's actually a video about Fallout 4 by Oxhorn, haha 😂 The title of the video is "How the Story of Fallout 4 Resembles The Wizard of Oz" Maybe The Wizard of Oz represents more things? 🤔
The author of the wizard of oz wrote it as a free Masonic allegory. Dorothy is representative of “The Fool” in Taro. Beginning on the journey of self enlightenment.
interesting, I don't know much about free mason ideas. Just about nothing to be honest, but I did see this is a common theory when looking it up. I'm going to read the Oz books at some point
I think you can decide which character they represent. I just chose th three that sit best in my head, but I think there are parallels between all of them. Veronica could be the Lion as she struggles to find the courage to stand up and make change in the BoS. Lily is the Scarecrow with her mind scrambled and deluded, despite being very capable. Cass is the Tin Man, rough hard exterior, acts like she doesn't care, but eventually she ends up wanting to take down the some of the most corrupt organizations in the NCR. Rex/Ed-e make me think of Toto, but Rex also needs a brain... Scarecrow
Caesar literally calls Mr House a wizard, I thought this was obvious to everyone. There's Wizard of Oz references in Fallout 2. So obviously someones a fan.
I don’t think it’s obvious to everyone. Very old movie many people understand the cultural references to but have not seen in a long time or ever. Most of my viewers are 18-35 y/o dudes, guessing there’s not the most musical lovers in that demo, especially musicals from 1939
Once again I’d like to point out. NV is the same story as KoTOR II. Nothing more. Obsidian has been trying to tell it in every game they’ve made but came up short and had to rush production so they try again with each game to make the story make sense.
I have heard good things about KoTor 2 but that it also suffers from being unfinished and having a lot of cut content like New Vegas. I'll need to check it out, I haven't heard anyone say they are 1:1 games before.
@@nvRanger it's nearly a 1:1 The courier = the exile, darth sion = Ulysses, etc. Legion are the Sith being ominous and creeping into the Republic territory. And everything revolved around the player character, a la most RPGs, but almost the same way in KoTOR II.
Ulysses isn’t even the in the base New Vegas game though and New Vegas is not NCR territory, they’re in the process of annexation. They were fighting the BoS and made a pact with House (the current owner). Idk if the Republic is in the same situation
Hmmm, but Oz is fantasy and New Vegas is a post post-apocalyptic sci-fi. They are much different than say, Blade Runner and Cyberpunk. I don’t get your point
@@Chedring Who are you talking to? What am I coping with? You're on the video, upset. This is your coping with that, I am helping you through the process it seems.
psst... yo dawg... word to the wise... the old title and thumbnail were better. >w> I put this in my Watch Later when it still had the old title / thumbnail. That was what grabbed my attention. I actually got a little confused when I saw it was changed. I was like, "Is this the Wizard of Oz video?" I know you probably changed them for business reasons. But the old one was better. "A fantasy movie" is so vague. Specifically comparing it to the Wizard of Oz was a pretty strong hook. Idk why the algorithm didn't totally sweep you up immediately with a title like that. But I do think it was better. Maybe it just wasn't time yet.
I appreciate the input and I also like (the idea at least) of the original thumbnail more but since changing them the video has recovered in the more relevant metrics. I don’t want to change that. Might not be because of the title/thumbnail change but the timing aligns Not exactly a business decision, this video isn’t monetized, I just worked on it a while and want it to keep in a healthy direction. Sorry for the alterations *ps, I ended up changing the title back. thought about it more and agreed*
I have read that Josh Sawyer says they don't but how tf do they not know about the NCR? The Legion? New Canaan? How is the courier delivering packages in NCR and not know who the NCR is without suffering from some level of amnesia? It's probably just up to the player to decide.
@nvRanger how does the character remember the singer from reno, his kid in another state, his package delivery escapades from the divide, his time running in the big circle, and other facts about the NCR such as who president Tandi is?
I don’t know, neither of us can explain these rhetorical questions because there are holes in either direction. It is up to the player to choose that dialogue, but the Courier has all those dialogue options you mentioned but you can also ask “who is the NCR?” It’s meant to be flexible, not make perfect linear sense.
@nvRanger The metacontextual reason is that the devs had to write dialogue for new players. Saying the Courier has amnesia is like choosing a cannon ending. It's a possibility if the player chooses so, but there's no real way of proving anything since there's stuff that contradicts everything.
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@@boltlinked happy days ( :
if you talk to victor at Boulder City and say: 'I don't like being followed, robot.'
Victor will say: 'Now-now, it ain't my fault that Dorothy and the Tin Man happened to be on the same yellow-striped road, is it?'.
now way, that's awesome. Need to check that out in game, I'm sure I have heard it before and forgot
@@nvRanger it was in Novac, IIRC.
@@Basil_Dropper thanks
"Oh ED-E, I don't think we're in Primm anymore."
I like how in OWB you become the Tin Man, The Cowardly Lion and The Scarecrow all at the same time
great point, such a good dlc. i could walk around lobotomized listening to OWB jazz all day
“We don’t have to dream that we’re important, because we already are.”-Mr. House
That is such a killer line. His writing and voice acting is crazy
Odo from Deep Space 9. Chef Louis from the Little Mermaid
I'm glad someone with editing skills also noticed.
Kind of you to say. Hopefully I hit the right points
@@nvRanger I'd recommend watching Return To Oz then. You'd be surprised how many parallels there are with F3 specifically and the theme of childhood vs. Adult world. The Nome King is President Eden in various ways, even down to the AI aspect that you'll see.
Both Fallout and WoO take on the challenge of presenting America in fantastical terms. So it's only natural that parallels would emerge. There's a lot of potential for a multihour deep dive on the books and the games, but I don't have the time or equipment atm.
I was thinking about getting the books. Got a big brothers Grimm collection I’m reading thru now.
I had no idea Return to Oz existed. I’ll check it out
"Please assume the position" - Fisto
pretty sure Doc Mitchell says that during the colonoscopy quest but I could be mistaken
@@nvRanger luckly you're conveniently "knocked out" (from being shot in the head) when he does that--
"how knows what doc Mitchell does to you" when victor brings you to him
I swear people will never stop finding new ways to look at both Bloodborne and Fallout: New Vegas, two of my favorite games of all time.
I gotta check out bloodbourne but I’m on pc. Heard so many good things about
@@nvRanger I got a PS4 specifically to play The Last of Us, Witcher 3 and Bloodborne. It took me awhile get into FromSoftware games but once it finally clicked it's made other action games feel much less satisfying and much less difficult. Bloodborne is very fast, very bloody and very weird.
I have two close friends who swear by fromsoft games. I’ve tried dark souls and Elden ring, just never clicked but I never gave it enough time I guess.
Hoping Sony allows bloodbourne to come to steam some day
Ed-e could be Toto, a figure from the protagonist past life (Kansas and the divide) which leads the protagonist into a rabbit hole (Lonesome Road, and The land of Oz) while being a sturdy and loyal companion
Love that, missed that comparison
God that intro was spell-binding, absolutely brilliant way to rethink this game and it's narrative path, gave me shivers the entire time! Well done man!
Thanks a lot, very kind of you to say 🙏
we're off to see the wizard! the wonderful wizard of vegas!
doesn't quite have the same ring to it 😂
The wonderful Wizard of New Vegas, Alternate Reality Howard Hughes
Yea or Perhaps Walt Disney in this case
I cant help imagine for the raiders to be minding there buiness only to be attack by someone armed with black riot ranger armour, survivalist rifle while whistling "we off to see the wizard" to themself while doing warcrimes
In all these years of playing the game and thinking about it, I never even made a correlation as yours. It's a well spotted paralelism and obviously well presented thanks to your effort, thanks man
Love to read it, thanks for the kind words. Glad you enjoyed 🙏
Saw this and had an instant, "Oh? Oh..." moment as thoughts raced through my head of characters and connections. Glad to say, some were the same and others were different. A great video and an amazing parallel drawn!
i love to hear that, I had a very similar reaction as I thought of this video and then rewatched a movie I had seen about a 100 times as a kid. Thanks
I feel like the green glow used by Mr. House’s mainframe was always meant to evoke the Wizard of Oz
Yea it's so similar it seems intentional but fallout terminals have often depicted green text or image- thinking the OG Fallout character presets (which look almost exactly like House on his monitor)
They DO make a direct allusion to the Wizard of Oz in Old World Blues...
Absolutely, there may even be more direct references in dialogue and I have heard Fallout 2 makes ref but cannot confirm
Intending to boot up ttw and check after the video, but isn't House's room literally behind a curtain?
@@sacrosanct23 I thought it was too! but I didn’t see one
my mom loves the wizard of oz, never played new vegas
i love new vegas, never seen the wizard of oz
we watched this video together and it was genuinely a very great bonding moment thank you so much brother
One of the coolest comments I have ever read, so thank you as well. Glad you enjoyed
This was an amazing video, start to finish. congrats on 10k bro
this one took a minute, really happy you enjoyed it. Thanks for saying!
I’m big fan of people play ground creepy!
it is also a central theme in Old World Blues, just for the Courier themselves. So it makes perfect sense to expand it to the wider game.
right I was considering which to break down and maybe i'll come back to OWB but I felt the base game was more gripping to compare with
Beautiful video, incredibly well written and edited, and a great choice of music. Keep putting out stuff like this and this channel will go to the moon.
Thanks a lot 🙏
Contrary to popular belief, The Land of Oz is a real place in the world of WoZ, it isn’t an apart of dream because Dorothy was isekaied into The Land of Oz. Dorothy thinking it was a dream was probably just the magic inside her trying to protect her psyche from realising what she actually experienced.
What is WoZ?
@@Basil_Dropper Wizard of Oz! Sorry, my brain gets abbreviations confused easily.
clicked cause i haven't seen a full video on this topic that i found interesting, instantly subbed cause of that intro man. amazing editing
Really appreciate the kind words. Glad you enjoyed 🙏
Hands down the best lore video on NV I've ever seen. So well laid out I cannot believe I hadn't seen it earlier.
So kind of you say, I’m glad it resonated with you 🙏
I always had a deep respect to Mr. House. He build this place, he defended it from atomic fire, he rebuilds it, he controls it. It is truly his grand work. A Beacon, A jewel in a desert. Not legion, those foolish Rome followers could keep it running, not NCR who wants to capture it for its own needs, Not a Yes-Man and the Courier, without any experience could run such complex place. Only Him. Thats why I side with him, and follow his, not orders, but tasks? As his right hand I’d do anything to keep Vegas running ;D especially when I can benefit the only “luxury” this desert saved from pre war times. That’s a dream scenario for a person who was born after atomic blast and was struggling to survive in the desert. And now, when you found your Home, you’ll do anything to protect it. Ha :D
I often feel similar, so I definitely don't totally disagree. There's just something about his attempt to transcend to in a god like figure while he holds that last bastion of hope to be concerning. He has too much leverage if he gets his way. Then do his true colors come out?
He's probably the most powerful and capable Fallout figure if you do his ending to the fullest, and that's saying something.
When you're in Vegas, Cassidy might comment "Place feels like the Sorcerer of Oz sometimes"
Family guy....? Heh, maybe he didn't forget about us OG fans...
Who are you people? ♥️
Solid video, keep up the good work.
Appreciated 🙏
This is one of my favorite video essays about New Vegas I have ever seen. Well done!
Hell ya, glad you enjoyed. Thanks for the kind words
I FORGOT TO MENTION Raul & Scarecrow both pack heat w their revolvers! 🔫
🙌 Thanks for 10k Subs
What mods do you use?
@@nkdmstar I'll hopefully get a mod list out soon, too many to list here.
New Vegas Reloaded, Desert Natural Weathers, Wasteland Arsenal Project, and Drags various NPC overhauls to name some presented often, here.
@@nvRanger bless you
Amazing video man I hope it gets more views you put a lot of work into jt
Hope so too, thanks. I appreciate the 10k it has tho, hopefully it’ll have a long shelf life in the YT algorithm
Damn this was very well done Bravo.👏
Thanks, I appreciate the kind words a lot
A truly magnificent entry to the Fallout New Vegas video essay ecosystem
Thanks for the kind words 🙏
This really tickled my Peter!
Glad I could deliver 🙏thank you
This is fucking incredible. Wish people made more content like this for New Vegas.
Really glad you enjoyed it, thank you 🙏
I agree that it has many parallels with OZ and till you said it I didn't think of OZ once while playing. I don't know lit too well but I feel the hero journey has been tweaked to fit so many stories that it maybe the direct reference could have been some work that OZ had used when that book was written. To me it felt like a Greek myth were House sent you out to do a trial of hercules or the journey home of the odyssey specially when you try to cut straight north you are blown south on some grand quest(forget the deathclaws those damn cazadors were the organic fence)
Great idea there, I love Greek myth and those two stories especially so. I am sure their are parallels but there are some direct references in Fallout games to Oz, so I think some of what I mentioned is somewhat intentional.
Here's a quote from the wiki on OWB: "In Old World Blues, Dr. Mobius refers to a group of murderers who were looking for a heart, a brain, and courage or a spine, which they had all along."
I have first thought this when first play new vegas an met house for the first time with his big tv screen an security bots at either sides, though the KING is the real wizard of oz vegas, (as the B movie Six String Samurai) a hidden gem of a movie of those who havent heard of it- from the late 90s
but then... WHO IS PACER!? is Rex Toto, or Ed-e?
The music choices were so good
thanks!
you had me at big hologram head. great take.
lol, thanks 🙏
Dark side of the new Vegas?
Old World Blues is also the Wizard of Oz. Very funny they did it twice.
Absolutely, nearly inseparable.
Your intro was fabulous, wonderful writing!!! ❤
Appreciate the kind words 🙏
I remember thinking this game was the Wizard of Oz the second I got a brain, a heart and a spine in Old World Blues.
for sure, they got very direct with the reference there. Few others throughout OWB and the base game.
Never seen the big man so pissed before. Voice actor is incredible! Rip to a real one
It’s amazing game design as well. You can continue to push his buttons until he explodes like this. Doesn’t just happen from 1 choice
New Vegas will never die
I hope not, Viva New Vegas 🎊
Just here for the algorithm, congratulations on your success bro
Appreciated all the same, thank you 🙏
Finally, more content like “WonkaPiercer”. Things being compared to things never gets old.
I love comparing. I think I heard recently it’s a very effective learning tool 🧠
I’m not familiar with WonkaPiercer
@@nvRanger the video on how Snowpiercer is a direct sequel to Willy Wonka.
@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 ahhh yes I'm familiar
Bruh now i think about it new Vegas Really is just a wizard of oz game
The Wizard of Oz RPG we didn’t know we had
This video is super good dude I wasn’t expecting it to hit the notes it did 🫡
awesome of you to say, happy it delivered.
That was amazing
Glad you like it, thanks 🙏
Really well made video
appreciate that
You have a huggable voice.
I really enjoyed this one! A pleasant surprise.
Glad you enjoyed it, idea came outta the blue
I think Veronica fits the role of the lion more than arcade, her main conflict is one of self identity within the brotherhood, and Veronica has much more of a character arc imo
fair enough, i love the comparison. I agree that Veronica is much more fleshed out but in fairness her quest ties into the BoS questline, the Followers barely have a questline.
I think Arcade's past with a nearly destroyed group is much like the Lion in Oz. Society is done with them, moved on. The Lion cannot act like a Lion in this world and Arcade cannot act like Enclave (his parents) in this world.
This need to change without a guide or role model paralizes them both. No one around them is like them, no one can understand their problems. Veronica is surrounded by people like her, she's the one who wants to enact change.
Great comparison, spot on
Glad ya think so, thanks
Couldn’t agree more with this parallel video!
Glad it delivered!
Mr House gave me the platinum drip
lmao i can't tell if you mean clothes or... another drip 0_0
@@nvRanger 💀💀💀
House gave me the platinum chip.
Benny gave me the platinum *_drip._*
I have thought this for as long as I have played this game.
once you start to notice it a bit it becomes more and more apparent
I suppose it too low hanging fruit to make the cut but regarding the Tin-Man parallel, Boone's job, functionally, is to just stand in one spot and not move just like the Tin-Man is discovered to be doing. No rust metaphors required to make it fit lol
No I don’t think it’s low hanging fruit, that’s just a great point, didn’t consider it at all.
Holy Moley!
The moment I saw the thumbnail I thought "damn... that's interesting... let's check this out", and oh boy did it not disappoint me!
First reaction is that "yeah I guess there are some parallels between Mr. House and Oz" but the moment the first montage hit me it was cemented. The montage was a fantastic juxtaposition of Mr. H and Oz, really striking, and the editing further on forward was great.
I don't think the parallels you put forward are a stretch, although maybe not fully intended or at least not meant to be too strong, you really brought out these in a manner that made them believable.
I will have to check out the rest of the channel, because if this is any proof, then the rest must be also good.
Lastly, what are the mods you're using? Maybe I'll find it on the rest of the channel but I'd appreciate if you did provide it here. Also I appreciate the listing of music used (not that I particularly care about any in the video but it always annoys me when I hear something good and the uploader doesn't provide a list. Props to you for including it!).
Really glad you enjoyed, I love the break down of your reaction. It’s a joy to read.
I’ll be honest I think this is one of my better videos, I knew I was gonna be at risk with copyright using Oz footage so I just disabled monetization and used all the music I’d like. I don’t wanna trash my own stuff but I’m definitely a work in progress. My previous videos show that.
In terms of mods I’ll work on a list soon. There are hundreds and I’m busy wrapping up college. New Vegas Reloaded, Desert Natural Weathers, WAP, and Drags various NPC overhauls are some heavily relevant to this videos footage
I came back to this video
mostly because I watched Dune 2 and realized a lot of parallels between the plots of Dune and Half Life 2
fascinating, I haven't played Half Life unfortunately and I have only seen Dune 1 and read a bit of the book. Surprising to hear there are parallels
Fascinating idea! I wonder how intentional this was
There are in-game references. Victoria directly references it and the OWB dlc also takes inspiration from
Everything parallels the wizard of oz.
Hmmm 🧐
New Vegas is so solid in every regard that the fallout franchise has no right to claim it. It's that good.
Man I want this series back on track asap. So disappointed in its state rn. Honestly, I think games like 76 shouldn’t be claiming Fallout
@@nvRanger I'm going to cut it straight with you bro, I haven't played the first two games in their entirety, but the writing I have seen is superior to anything that Bethesda came out with.
New Vegas is Really a completely different game from fallout 3. I'm 45, and after having played both on PlayStation 3, and only on PlayStation 3, the contrast is stark.
Todd Howard, and his hand-picked cronies at ZeniMax, is a pretender to the throne that former Interplay employees at Obsidian deserve to claim. They're Trash.
If New Vegas had been given the time it needed, it would further cement its place in the franchise history. I sincerely appreciate the time and effort put into this excellent video. You deserve at least 10 times the subscribers you have. Meeting you have earned my subscription!
Pre-watch prediction: In order of when you meet them, Cass is the scarecrow, because she wants to think up a revenge scheme for her caravan (kinda lame but the best I could do), Boone is the tin man because he lost his heart the night his wife died and he needs to find a new meaning to life, and Veronica is the lion because she needs to find the courage to either confront her family or cut ties and walk away. I look forward to seeing how wildly off-base I am lol
I got Boone right!
Awesome, love that you did a pre watch prediction. Spot on with Boone and I like where your head is at for Veronica. I’ve heard others go in a similar direction.
This is such an interesting take on the story of both fnv and Woz. I've seen countless people disect this game but none have done it quite like this. Also the use of Lana del rey's "Paris, Texas" is super cool, I love her songs and it's great to see two interest collide. This is an amazing video. Excuse the glaze
Wait which is the sample from Lana? I actually like some of her music a lot but none of this was directly from her, all the songs are listed in the desc, i'm curious.
Aside from that, really appreciate the kind words, glaze or not. Worked hard on this one so it means a lot.
@@nvRanger Nvm, Lana sampled SYML's song. Didn't know that when I wrote the comment. If you look at Lana's song it says "featuring. SYML"
@@nicovaldez905 I was gonna guess that one, beautiful song. I'll have to check out her version
Why does Arcade look like that 😭 @2:45
You think that looks worse than the base game 😱?
Famtastic video!!
thanks for saying!
Very good intro
glad you liked it, thanks
The house always wins
unless the mailman is busy
You should have made this video on Outerworlds my dude.
No surprise obsidian did this twice.
i dont like outerworlds as much as nv and I dont know it as well either. I played it once or twice through, recall being disappointed
The NCR is spineless, the legion is heartless, and yes man is brainless. And house is skinless because after 200 years he really needs some lotion.
The comparisons are truly endless 🧴
This video blew my mind it really is inspired by Oz!!
Another reason Vegas is the best game ❤
Awesome to read, glad it landed 🙏
Dope intro
Dope
I always play caravan with ringo 8:15
Don’t you lie !
You're lying.
The second video about FNV and Wizard of Oz lol
WHERES THE FIRST?!
@@nvRanger Oh my bad, it's actually a video about Fallout 4 by Oxhorn, haha 😂
The title of the video is "How the Story of Fallout 4 Resembles The Wizard of Oz"
Maybe The Wizard of Oz represents more things? 🤔
Oh I mentioned that video at the end of this one
The author of the wizard of oz wrote it as a free Masonic allegory. Dorothy is representative of “The Fool” in Taro. Beginning on the journey of self enlightenment.
interesting, I don't know much about free mason ideas. Just about nothing to be honest, but I did see this is a common theory when looking it up. I'm going to read the Oz books at some point
I have been playing fallout NV a long time but never thought or saw the game in this way i think im might sub 🤔
cool to hear, hope you enjoyed the video
@@nvRanger I did
Dope title
Dope
It seems so obvious when you say it like that… Subbed.
glad i got the message across, thanks
@@nvRanger I love it when a video essay makes something so clear right up top and the rest is just gravy. Really great job.
Well done. New Sub.
Greatly appreciated 🙏
Could we get a mod list? I really like how your game appears 😊
hopefully include one in the next video description
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Fantastic
Thank you 🙏
Dope vid
I like how I passed the 3 checks in your 3 comments, dope title, intro, vid 👍
This was great. I'd love to see Josh Sawyer react to this video
😅I’d melt into a puddle. Thank you, glad you like it
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Hm, what about Cass, Lily, Veronica and Rex?
I think you can decide which character they represent. I just chose th three that sit best in my head, but I think there are parallels between all of them.
Veronica could be the Lion as she struggles to find the courage to stand up and make change in the BoS.
Lily is the Scarecrow with her mind scrambled and deluded, despite being very capable.
Cass is the Tin Man, rough hard exterior, acts like she doesn't care, but eventually she ends up wanting to take down the some of the most corrupt organizations in the NCR.
Rex/Ed-e make me think of Toto, but Rex also needs a brain... Scarecrow
What is the modlist? Good video.
Thanks, don’t have a mod list currently but I’ve covered a lot of them in recent videos, links in descriptions.
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Also premium rush
I've never seen that movie. Its similar to New Vegas?
What mods are you running?
Quite a bit, recent videos have covered many. New Vegas Reloaded, WAP, and Desert Natural Weathers are a few big ones
OH MY GOD FAMILY GUY!!!!!
holy canoli
Secretly?
well its not a wizard of oz game, I know you're IQ is higher than the views on this video. Sorry for insulting your intelligence
@nvRanger bro, it's just a joke, calm down
Here I was, enjoying the video for a minute...
@@zanthe_ don't prod and be rude then play victim, sad sight. All i did was make a "joke" back by your standards
Is Yes Man the good witch?
That’s a hard one. Maybe Sunny Smiles or Doc Mitch
Caesar literally calls Mr House a wizard, I thought this was obvious to everyone. There's Wizard of Oz references in Fallout 2. So obviously someones a fan.
I don’t think it’s obvious to everyone. Very old movie many people understand the cultural references to but have not seen in a long time or ever.
Most of my viewers are 18-35 y/o dudes, guessing there’s not the most musical lovers in that demo, especially musicals from 1939
Mod list 😁?
Soon hopefully 🤞
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Once again I’d like to point out. NV is the same story as KoTOR II. Nothing more. Obsidian has been trying to tell it in every game they’ve made but came up short and had to rush production so they try again with each game to make the story make sense.
I have heard good things about KoTor 2 but that it also suffers from being unfinished and having a lot of cut content like New Vegas. I'll need to check it out, I haven't heard anyone say they are 1:1 games before.
@@nvRanger it's nearly a 1:1 The courier = the exile, darth sion = Ulysses, etc. Legion are the Sith being ominous and creeping into the Republic territory. And everything revolved around the player character, a la most RPGs, but almost the same way in KoTOR II.
Ulysses isn’t even the in the base New Vegas game though and New Vegas is not NCR territory, they’re in the process of annexation. They were fighting the BoS and made a pact with House (the current owner). Idk if the Republic is in the same situation
@@nvRanger the base game is incomplete without the DLC and patches so...
Zardoz
Lardoz
way too surface level of a connection, its like comparing literally any sci fi movie to a sci fi video game
Hmmm, but Oz is fantasy and New Vegas is a post post-apocalyptic sci-fi. They are much different than say, Blade Runner and Cyberpunk.
I don’t get your point
Is it really a secret when it was blatantly obvious and the devs confirmed it not even a year after the game dropped?
I guess it was no secret to you Holmes 🕵️
@@nvRanger really living in a pandemic of white guys making endless video essays...
@@Chedring the algorithm feeds you what you watch, donkey.
Beg for more attention, help me up this vids engagement more. Lord knows it needs the help.
@@nvRanger Sounds like cope on your part. Limp and sad. lmao.
@@Chedring Who are you talking to? What am I coping with? You're on the video, upset. This is your coping with that, I am helping you through the process it seems.
I LOVE FNV
ME TOO
psst... yo dawg... word to the wise... the old title and thumbnail were better. >w> I put this in my Watch Later when it still had the old title / thumbnail. That was what grabbed my attention. I actually got a little confused when I saw it was changed.
I was like, "Is this the Wizard of Oz video?"
I know you probably changed them for business reasons. But the old one was better. "A fantasy movie" is so vague. Specifically comparing it to the Wizard of Oz was a pretty strong hook. Idk why the algorithm didn't totally sweep you up immediately with a title like that. But I do think it was better. Maybe it just wasn't time yet.
I appreciate the input and I also like (the idea at least) of the original thumbnail more but since changing them the video has recovered in the more relevant metrics.
I don’t want to change that. Might not be because of the title/thumbnail change but the timing aligns
Not exactly a business decision, this video isn’t monetized, I just worked on it a while and want it to keep in a healthy direction. Sorry for the alterations
*ps, I ended up changing the title back. thought about it more and agreed*
The Courier doesn't have amnesia.
Stop perpetuating such LIES.
I have read that Josh Sawyer says they don't but how tf do they not know about the NCR? The Legion? New Canaan?
How is the courier delivering packages in NCR and not know who the NCR is without suffering from some level of amnesia? It's probably just up to the player to decide.
@nvRanger how does the character remember the singer from reno, his kid in another state, his package delivery escapades from the divide, his time running in the big circle, and other facts about the NCR such as who president Tandi is?
I don’t know, neither of us can explain these rhetorical questions because there are holes in either direction.
It is up to the player to choose that dialogue, but the Courier has all those dialogue options you mentioned but you can also ask “who is the NCR?”
It’s meant to be flexible, not make perfect linear sense.
@nvRanger The metacontextual reason is that the devs had to write dialogue for new players. Saying the Courier has amnesia is like choosing a cannon ending. It's a possibility if the player chooses so, but there's no real way of proving anything since there's stuff that contradicts everything.
@@nvRanger Besides that. Fantastic video.
You've got a real knack for storytelling.