Thanks for this history. I came across this while looking into the de Braose family in Wales, leading on from researching Llewellyn the Great, and the Mortimer family. I became fascinated while housesitting in Eardisley which is pretty much in the middle of the Welsh Marches.
Wow. Lived in Upper Beeding when I was a boy. Spent a lot of hours at Bramber Castle. Always been interested in it's history. That was the best most comprehensive presentation on the subject I've ever seen. - A Brit in Colorado.
Wow! I was aware that the 1st Baron de Braose (died 1291) had a son named Peter, but when William's son the 2nd Baron died, the lordship went extinct without a male descendant. I assumed that the 1st Baron's sons only had daughters. Is this the case?
@@SussexYank No Peter had a son, also called Peter who married Joan de Percy. They had a daughter called Beatrix who married Sir High Shirley. I'm not sure why the Lordship went extinct.
@@Poppygirl64 - Most English lordships operate according to male primogeniture, meaning that their titles can only pass to legitimate male descendants. If a lord had no legitimate sons, and there were no living legitimate male descendants in an earlier generation, then the title would become extinct. As I mentioned in the video, there were distant male cousins of the 2nd Baron Braose who could have inherited the barony, but probably because they weren't known, it didn't happen. On the other hand, they would have to be able to prove their right to the lordship, and given the state of recordkeeping in those days, this may have been problematic. Your Peter who married Joan de Percy could have inherited the barony if he had outlived the 2nd baron. But if that Peter hadn't had sons, the barony would have become extinct at that point.
@@SussexYank they had a daughter Beatrice but I'll have to look at my records to see if there were sons. I have a feeling they only had the one daughter.
Another superbly presented potted history lesson! Very interesting and so well researched, thank you. Since moving near Arundel some few years ago I have been trying to track the history and understand the lineage of the Dukes of Norfolk, I only wish someone had taken the same amount of time and effort that you clearly have to present a clear and concise documentary on Arundel history.
My genealogy research brought me here. William de Braose 1st Lord of Bramber is my 21 great grandfather. My records state he was born sometime in 1049 in Brienze, Normandy, France. It has been wonderful seeing the castle ruins and learning some of the history behind the man. Thank you. I do hope you write a book about all you have learned. I would certainly buy it. 🌹
Very interesting, i enjoy all your videos truly remarkable. I have a question that you may be able to answer, when did Steyning fail to become a navigatable port ? and the river Adur retain its present coarse through Bramber etc
Thank you! It didn't happen overnight, unlike what happened to New Romney in Kent (in 1287 due to a violent storm in that case). At the time the Normans took over management of things here in England, the process of silting up past the point of usability was already under way. Already in the 1070s there were disputes between William 1 de Braose and the owners of Steyning's port facilities about his digging channels to the castle, which they were afraid would further reduce the usable water flow up the Tanyard Stream leading to the docks. I haven't yet discovered exactly when it was recognized that Steyning was no longer a usable port, but it seems to have occurred sometime during the 1300s. The Adur's main stream at Bramber back in 1066 was not the same one as it is today. The only remnant of the old main stream is the "drain" or "sewer" which passes under The Street at about where St. Mary's House sits. This was where de Braose sited his own dock, along with a tollhouse to charge boats for further passage to Steyning -- something that Fecamp Abbey in France (who owned the rights to portage at Steyning) were not pleased about! This dispute wasn't resolved (in Fecamp's favour) until 1086.
Apparently William I Braose was my 27th great grandfather. The whole Braose story is fascinating. It would make a good movie but there is no clear 'good guy' when King John was around. Anyway it's great to see this much detail.
By 1066 England was called England, the 'Angles' actually called themselves and their language 'Englisc ', with the final C pronounced as SH. Angles is direct later (mis)translation of the Latin 'Angli'.
This Sir John de Braose, Sr., Lord of Stinton Is my direct 20 great grandfather. Male line all the way. So doesn't seem correct that he had no continuing heir. A few generations after this Sir John, the family name slowly morphed to Brewer. And stayed Brewer till now. Thanks for making this video, I was just looking for something like this after discovering the De Braose was my ancient family name. :)
Super! You would be a strong contender for Baron Braose, then! I based my thought on the line dying out on what little information was available. Glad to hear that I was wrong about your family line!
Love it! But I am the living arm of the hands. Which is the meaning of the “Ruß” tribal name. Though the B was added to those whom were quote “blasphemous” or “bastards” according to the errant ways of the usurpent church of the day. Wordplay was a pastime of the ottoman and well now history is full of such silly mysteries. Here’s a really good one for ya: Translate “the Scottish” in French to mandarin. Then add the (j’) initially to form j’Écossais. “The Scottish”. Now swap the double s for an eszett ß. Now it says “Jacob” the suffix/sussex of (-ais) means “ace” and is pronounced “ice” or “eyes” to which like any good celtic clue gives a second and third meaning. Scots are an “echo” of “sais” in that they the exiled sons of el, ra and isis. Said together backwards one gets Israel for which J’Écoß changed his name after wrestling the big guy or the big “them” (to be Angelicanly pc) They also are the bloodline of the Licinius or L’Iceni from sais then Meroë and so on. All of which as a historian you would understand to be blasphemous to our core. The specific branch of (B)ruce family from Bramber uses brewes for the women and Brose/braose/bruz/etc for the men. It’s a matrilineal line of Amorites so much as the “Jews” call females “Jewesses” and men any number of other lesser strict naming variations. See the ones who called William a bastard were the ones imposing primogeniture on the native world. The ancient world is matrilineal and this matters to us who need no velvet robed pedophiles to tell us who is legit or not. Primogeniture takes its roots in desert cultures and slaver societies where literally one man would father an entire village or breeding camp. This is wacky (MIC) Military industrial complex crap to us with heart and soul of the wild. So William cared not and decided to screw up the whole church organization by implementing name confusion. Since names were for taxes and we tax-freemen had such luxuries as wordplay. I can even show you who William Wallace is if you want? The Beatles reference the key to this mystery in the song about the walrus…. The key is the L-R switch ups needed to go between mongol ing-lish and Norman (B)Ritish. That and a polyglot understanding of 3 tongues that once spoke in “Egypt”(which is centered in Siam fyi) S-N switches specifically for this one. So the name “Wale” becomes “Ware” and the sußex/sussex/suffix of -ace becomes -esse and in turn becomes “-enne” like the belly button lol So, good Sir, without further adew : William Warenne. And you won’t need the second r since you haven’t been in Roman prison where they cut your tongue out and screw up the next thousand years of translating Babel from half-tongues and swollen mouths. Hmmm.. strange how all the languages that got punished by Assyria/Rome always end up with boxes of extra letters in their words. Hold your tongue and say Moroccan/Mexican/Mohican/moccasin/maximian/Mycenaean/mcGregor etc… Oh and if you wanna find Augusts missing eagles, read the Ogham swirlies on the rams of Meroë. With love! I hope you enjoy a little crazy with your puzzles! Keep up the great work friend!
@@gailbracy3813 lol I know I’m a weirdo! And just yesterday I located what I think is a sacred Mycenaean warrior burial. The tomb may have been washed away as they were cut into creek banks but my intuition literally led me to a section of creek only dried enough to expose the bottom for a month a year, and I swear to sweet molasses I uncovered a head shaped face stone roughly carved out of agate stone. I didn’t know Mycenaean seal stones were out of agate but googled it and it was lol I swear I’m guided by ancestral voices. Not dark crazy like save the world crazy. Im going back this morning to decide what to do with the find. Respect over gain is my heart. I may just bury it further rather than move it at all. Something about it though is becoming “my precious” lol Cheers to being ghetto Indiana Jones! It’s the little things in life that are most sacred. Thanks for the wowsa. I like inspiring awe in any spell I get. With Love
Very interesting! Maybe you should write that book on it. Thanks for sharing 😁
Thanks very much! And the book is in progress!
Thanks for the encouragement -- and the book is now "live"! See my video announcing the book, which includes a shoutout to you guys!
Thanks for this history. I came across this while looking into the de Braose family in Wales, leading on from researching Llewellyn the Great, and the Mortimer family. I became fascinated while housesitting in Eardisley which is pretty much in the middle of the Welsh Marches.
Wow. Lived in Upper Beeding when I was a boy. Spent a lot of hours at Bramber Castle. Always been interested in it's history. That was the best most comprehensive presentation on the subject I've ever seen. - A Brit in Colorado.
Very complicated and very interesting :)
William 1st Baron de Braose is my 20th grt grandfather but after him we go to his son Peter. Thank you for this!!!
Wow! I was aware that the 1st Baron de Braose (died 1291) had a son named Peter, but when William's son the 2nd Baron died, the lordship went extinct without a male descendant. I assumed that the 1st Baron's sons only had daughters. Is this the case?
@@SussexYank No Peter had a son, also called Peter who married Joan de Percy. They had a daughter called Beatrix who married Sir High Shirley. I'm not sure why the Lordship went extinct.
@@Poppygirl64 - Most English lordships operate according to male primogeniture, meaning that their titles can only pass to legitimate male descendants. If a lord had no legitimate sons, and there were no living legitimate male descendants in an earlier generation, then the title would become extinct.
As I mentioned in the video, there were distant male cousins of the 2nd Baron Braose who could have inherited the barony, but probably because they weren't known, it didn't happen. On the other hand, they would have to be able to prove their right to the lordship, and given the state of recordkeeping in those days, this may have been problematic.
Your Peter who married Joan de Percy could have inherited the barony if he had outlived the 2nd baron. But if that Peter hadn't had sons, the barony would have become extinct at that point.
@@SussexYank they had a daughter Beatrice but I'll have to look at my records to see if there were sons. I have a feeling they only had the one daughter.
We're related!
Another superbly presented potted history lesson! Very interesting and so well researched, thank you. Since moving near Arundel some few years ago I have been trying to track the history and understand the lineage of the Dukes of Norfolk, I only wish someone had taken the same amount of time and effort that you clearly have to present a clear and concise documentary on Arundel history.
Thanks! I dug through the Norfolk dukedom quite a ways in order to make sure I was being accurate, and that is one complicated line of succession!
This is by far my favourite channel on RUclips
My genealogy research brought me here. William de Braose 1st Lord of Bramber is my 21 great grandfather. My records state he was born sometime in 1049 in Brienze, Normandy, France. It has been wonderful seeing the castle ruins and learning some of the history behind the man. Thank you. I do hope you write a book about all you have learned. I would certainly buy it. 🌹
In fact, I did write the book, and it's available on Amazon! 😃 See my video about the book:
ruclips.net/video/TcN0mB03wws/видео.html
Very interesting, i enjoy all your videos truly remarkable. I have a question that you may be able to answer, when did Steyning fail to become a navigatable port ? and the river Adur retain its present coarse through Bramber etc
Thank you! It didn't happen overnight, unlike what happened to New Romney in Kent (in 1287 due to a violent storm in that case). At the time the Normans took over management of things here in England, the process of silting up past the point of usability was already under way. Already in the 1070s there were disputes between William 1 de Braose and the owners of Steyning's port facilities about his digging channels to the castle, which they were afraid would further reduce the usable water flow up the Tanyard Stream leading to the docks.
I haven't yet discovered exactly when it was recognized that Steyning was no longer a usable port, but it seems to have occurred sometime during the 1300s.
The Adur's main stream at Bramber back in 1066 was not the same one as it is today. The only remnant of the old main stream is the "drain" or "sewer" which passes under The Street at about where St. Mary's House sits. This was where de Braose sited his own dock, along with a tollhouse to charge boats for further passage to Steyning -- something that Fecamp Abbey in France (who owned the rights to portage at Steyning) were not pleased about! This dispute wasn't resolved (in Fecamp's favour) until 1086.
Apparently William I Braose was my 27th great grandfather. The whole Braose story is fascinating. It would make a good movie but there is no clear 'good guy' when King John was around. Anyway it's great to see this much detail.
Same here my last name is Brewer
Same
By 1066 England was called England, the 'Angles' actually called themselves and their language 'Englisc ', with the final C pronounced as SH. Angles is direct later (mis)translation of the Latin 'Angli'.
This Sir John de Braose, Sr., Lord of Stinton
Is my direct 20 great grandfather. Male line all the way.
So doesn't seem correct that he had no continuing heir.
A few generations after this Sir John, the family name slowly morphed to Brewer. And stayed Brewer till now.
Thanks for making this video, I was just looking for something like this after discovering the De Braose was my ancient family name. :)
Super! You would be a strong contender for Baron Braose, then! I based my thought on the line dying out on what little information was available. Glad to hear that I was wrong about your family line!
Love it! But I am the living arm of the hands. Which is the meaning of the “Ruß” tribal name.
Though the B was added to those whom were quote “blasphemous” or “bastards” according to the errant ways of the usurpent church of the day.
Wordplay was a pastime of the ottoman and well now history is full of such silly mysteries.
Here’s a really good one for ya:
Translate “the Scottish” in French to mandarin. Then add the (j’) initially to form j’Écossais. “The Scottish”.
Now swap the double s for an eszett ß.
Now it says “Jacob” the suffix/sussex of (-ais) means “ace” and is pronounced “ice” or “eyes” to which like any good celtic clue gives a second and third meaning.
Scots are an “echo” of “sais” in that they the exiled sons of el, ra and isis. Said together backwards one gets Israel for which J’Écoß changed his name after wrestling the big guy or the big “them” (to be Angelicanly pc)
They also are the bloodline of the Licinius or L’Iceni from sais then Meroë and so on.
All of which as a historian you would understand to be blasphemous to our core.
The specific branch of (B)ruce family from Bramber uses brewes for the women and Brose/braose/bruz/etc for the men. It’s a matrilineal line of Amorites so much as the “Jews” call females “Jewesses” and men any number of other lesser strict naming variations.
See the ones who called William a bastard were the ones imposing primogeniture on the native world.
The ancient world is matrilineal and this matters to us who need no velvet robed pedophiles to tell us who is legit or not. Primogeniture takes its roots in desert cultures and slaver societies where literally one man would father an entire village or breeding camp.
This is wacky (MIC) Military industrial complex crap to us with heart and soul of the wild.
So William cared not and decided to screw up the whole church organization by implementing name confusion.
Since names were for taxes and we tax-freemen had such luxuries as wordplay.
I can even show you who William Wallace is if you want?
The Beatles reference the key to this mystery in the song about the walrus….
The key is the L-R switch ups needed to go between mongol ing-lish and Norman (B)Ritish.
That and a polyglot understanding of 3 tongues that once spoke in “Egypt”(which is centered in Siam fyi)
S-N switches specifically for this one.
So the name “Wale” becomes “Ware” and the sußex/sussex/suffix of -ace becomes -esse and in turn becomes “-enne” like the belly button lol
So, good Sir, without further adew :
William Warenne.
And you won’t need the second r since you haven’t been in Roman prison where they cut your tongue out and screw up the next thousand years of translating Babel from half-tongues and swollen mouths.
Hmmm.. strange how all the languages that got punished by Assyria/Rome always end up with boxes of extra letters in their words.
Hold your tongue and say Moroccan/Mexican/Mohican/moccasin/maximian/Mycenaean/mcGregor etc…
Oh and if you wanna find Augusts missing eagles, read the Ogham swirlies on the rams of Meroë.
With love! I hope you enjoy a little crazy with your puzzles!
Keep up the great work friend!
Just wowsa
@@gailbracy3813 lol I know I’m a weirdo! And just yesterday I located what I think is a sacred Mycenaean warrior burial. The tomb may have been washed away as they were cut into creek banks but my intuition literally led me to a section of creek only dried enough to expose the bottom for a month a year, and I swear to sweet molasses I uncovered a head shaped face stone roughly carved out of agate stone. I didn’t know Mycenaean seal stones were out of agate but googled it and it was lol I swear I’m guided by ancestral voices. Not dark crazy like save the world crazy. Im going back this morning to decide what to do with the find. Respect over gain is my heart. I may just bury it further rather than move it at all. Something about it though is becoming “my precious” lol
Cheers to being ghetto Indiana Jones! It’s the little things in life that are most sacred. Thanks for the wowsa. I like inspiring awe in any spell I get.
With Love
Didn't King John try to destroy the House of de Braose 4:10
Oh yes. Skip ahead to 14:34 where I talk about it.
@@SussexYank why thank you 👍👍👍