I have a swamp runner 18 hp vanguard on 1652 boat and I am getting 18 up river and 24 down with 9 1/2" prop by myself with 300 lbs of gear if I have another person I'm hitting 16 up river and 19 down with 9" prop
If you haven't done a video about it yet please do a breakdown on the motor. How you came up with the setup. Was it all one unit? Did you have to make anything?
Im with you bud. Ive been told but not sure how accurate it is but that model/size can run up to a 9? I believe thats what i was told. But dont hold it to me. Ide like to know larger sizes such as max size and max speed its capable of.
Sounds like the 7.5 is getting you the best performance of the three. 15mph is pretty darn good. I only get 25mph on my boat with a 25hp motor. It's plenty fast enough for me though.
I got 15 a few days before this with the 6.5 w/o 60lb pete in the boat. Pete knocked that prop back to 12 mph. So w/o Pete and the 7.5 prop I should get 17or 18.....maybe a new video is in order.
Here is the video on my Jon Boat ruclips.net/video/4J3gfn37SPY/видео.html as to hauling it I just put it in the bed of my truck. I would rather do that than a trailer as I dont have to worry about a trailer and I can get my truck into places better w/o a trailer. thanks for watching, Mack
A tach might be nice They are not expensive off ebay That governed honda might have still more umph I would prop it up till I could see a slight loss of rpm then go down a size if not two :)
@@MackinNC1 You neither want to overwind or lug a engine. I personally can not tell by ear Besides If a engine has a proper governor it should not overwind even if no prop at all.
@@MackinNC1 I respect honda The most popular engines in the world are honda. The honda super cub motorcycle for instance , Having over 100 million having been sold. That is more vehicles than anyone the world over Toro I do not respect and I see no happiness in their future Toro builds a electric 48 inch stand on mower now . I has a msrp of 34,000 us dollars I once stayed in a holliday inn with a fat girl and a big bathtub I am really lucky to have survived
theres also different style props.. not just size.. theres differnt pitches you can get.. Or ie: hi speed props. theres hi-power props. and then the "black painted reguler props" mud-skipper sells are best for all around imho) I got a twister with a tuned up clone, flywheel,cam, gov delete, bigger jet in carb, degree key on flywheel, 22lb valv springs.. best i can get not matter the prop, pitch in water with my 10ft 30"? wide old starcraft.. is about 19mph.. skip too like 11- mins in? youll see the porp difffernces.. i talk about.. since your running a true longtail, a hi-speedprop mite work better for you.. ruclips.net/video/I1Mvr4iTDyE/видео.htmlsi=zRJSJwgGMZ6Q2ft2 theres a point of no return with the props,power, and place were the prop is in the water.. The water itself, ie: different currents, temps, seem too effect stuff.. The hi speed #0-#1, which is like a 6.5"-7.5" but its a aggressive pitch and bigger fatter ears'.. so it may only be 6-7'' total outside dia.. but the ear's and pitch mite be 5" themselves.. Try the hi-speed props for solo runs, the 6.5-" hi-power for more weight.. the plain 7"' black props for 2 ppl, or unknon weight and water types.. I run the rivers too, so its always different.. Oh yea a good flowing aftermarket header-exhaust, and intake, mild cam, flywheels, is all you really need with these Hondas/212s.. I wouldn't go crazy with a real hot cam, stroker kits etc.. Because by time you do that, its reving out too 7k, and billet or not they will blow enventually.. Mild cam, billet flywheel + 2-3* timing key, stiffer valve springs, bigger jet in stock carb. #38?. Exhaust and more air in.. gettm so they cruise nice at 4500rpm-5krpm... and keep fresh oil, magnetic plug and theyll last a while.... aftert that.. id recommend just going up too a 10-15hp setup.. too get thatbit more of torque too spin 8-910" props.. but on a lill boat you mite be at the limit of whieght.. Believe it or not.. I got better top speed o na wider 34" flat bottom, with the rite prop, then again, i got a twister horntail, so my prop is not out in the back of the wake, or behind the wake.. so theres that point of no return i get with my setup..
So it doesn't point down in the water and push the nose of the boat down. Prop shaft has to clear the transom(back of boat). More efficient and protects the prop when running in the shallows. Also, that is a horizontal-shaft engine, like a tiller or go-cart engine, and has to run in an upright position to prevent oil from hitting the crankshaft, oil leaking into cylinders(fouling plugs) or carburetor(clogging air journals), etc.
The rpm's sounded like they stayed up on the 7" like it should. Good video
Great video. I’m gonna have to change my prop before the season.
Thanks for watching. I will have (hopefully) something knew on this out fit late winter early spring. watch out for a faster mudmotor.
I have a swamp runner 18 hp vanguard on 1652 boat and I am getting 18 up river and 24 down with 9 1/2" prop by myself with 300 lbs of gear if I have another person I'm hitting 16 up river and 19 down with 9" prop
Buckhorn, Cape fear!!!! We are headed that way tomorrow!!
If you haven't done a video about it yet please do a breakdown on the motor. How you came up with the setup. Was it all one unit? Did you have to make anything?
Nice job on the video! I'd be interested to see the next size up.
Thanks for watching! Mack
Im with you bud. Ive been told but not sure how accurate it is but that model/size can run up to a 9? I believe thats what i was told. But dont hold it to me. Ide like to know larger sizes such as max size and max speed its capable of.
Sounds like the 7.5 is getting you the best performance of the three. 15mph is pretty darn good. I only get 25mph on my boat with a 25hp motor. It's plenty fast enough for me though.
I got 15 a few days before this with the 6.5 w/o 60lb pete in the boat. Pete knocked that prop back to 12 mph. So w/o Pete and the 7.5 prop I should get 17or 18.....maybe a new video is in order.
Do you have a vid on your truck/Jon boat setup I’d like to see that, if not can you explain how you haul your gear and specs on it
Here is the video on my Jon Boat ruclips.net/video/4J3gfn37SPY/видео.html as to hauling it I just put it in the bed of my truck. I would rather do that than a trailer as I dont have to worry about a trailer and I can get my truck into places better w/o a trailer. thanks for watching, Mack
A tach might be nice
They are not expensive off ebay
That governed honda might have still more umph
I would prop it up till I could see a slight loss of rpm then go down a size if not two :)
I have. One and it is running as much as I want it to . Too much and you shorten the life of it.
@@MackinNC1 You neither want to overwind or lug a engine. I personally can not tell by ear Besides If a engine has a proper governor it should not overwind even if no prop at all.
@@frankartieta4887 true, I run the biggest power equipment store for toro and Honda in the state and this motor right now is perfect.
@@MackinNC1 I respect honda The most popular engines in the world are honda. The honda super cub motorcycle for instance , Having over 100 million having been sold. That is more vehicles than anyone the world over
Toro I do not respect and I see no happiness in their future
Toro builds a electric 48 inch stand on mower now . I has a msrp of 34,000 us dollars I once stayed in a holliday inn with a fat girl and a big bathtub
I am really lucky to have survived
theres also different style props.. not just size.. theres differnt pitches you can get.. Or ie: hi speed props. theres hi-power props.
and then the "black painted reguler props" mud-skipper sells are best for all around imho)
I got a twister with a tuned up clone, flywheel,cam, gov delete, bigger jet in carb, degree key on flywheel, 22lb valv springs..
best i can get not matter the prop, pitch in water with my 10ft 30"? wide old starcraft.. is about 19mph..
skip too like 11- mins in? youll see the porp difffernces.. i talk about.. since your running a true longtail, a hi-speedprop mite work better for you..
ruclips.net/video/I1Mvr4iTDyE/видео.htmlsi=zRJSJwgGMZ6Q2ft2
theres a point of no return with the props,power, and place were the prop is in the water.. The water itself, ie: different currents, temps, seem too effect stuff..
The hi speed #0-#1, which is like a 6.5"-7.5" but its a aggressive pitch and bigger fatter ears'.. so it may only be 6-7'' total outside dia.. but the ear's and pitch mite be 5" themselves.. Try the hi-speed props for solo runs, the 6.5-" hi-power for more weight.. the plain 7"' black props for 2 ppl, or unknon weight and water types.. I run the rivers too, so its always different.. Oh yea a good flowing aftermarket header-exhaust, and intake, mild cam, flywheels, is all you really need with these Hondas/212s..
I wouldn't go crazy with a real hot cam, stroker kits etc.. Because by time you do that, its reving out too 7k, and billet or not they will blow enventually.. Mild cam, billet flywheel + 2-3* timing key, stiffer valve springs, bigger jet in stock carb. #38?. Exhaust and more air in.. gettm so they cruise nice at 4500rpm-5krpm... and keep fresh oil, magnetic plug and theyll last a while.... aftert that.. id recommend just going up too a 10-15hp setup.. too get thatbit more of torque too spin 8-910" props.. but on a lill boat you mite be at the limit of whieght..
Believe it or not.. I got better top speed o na wider 34" flat bottom, with the rite prop, then again, i got a twister horntail, so my prop is not out in the back of the wake, or behind the wake.. so theres that point of no return i get with my setup..
Looks like rocky mount reservoir
Cape Fear River above Buckhorn.
Have you tried a 6.5-7 inch prop with more pitch?
I have not.
I haved try,6inch ,it ok,but 7inch better more..
If 7inch compare between 7.5 better more
How is the turning radius on it
about like any Longtail.
Why does the shaft have to be so long?
So it doesn't point down in the water and push the nose of the boat down. Prop shaft has to clear the transom(back of boat). More efficient and protects the prop when running in the shallows. Also, that is a horizontal-shaft engine, like a tiller or go-cart engine, and has to run in an upright position to prevent oil from hitting the crankshaft, oil leaking into cylinders(fouling plugs) or carburetor(clogging air journals), etc.
@@6.5mm_is_the_best_mm Thanks for that...........I figured it might have been that way to keep the swamp mud off the operators back LOL
that is what she said.
@@6.5mm_is_the_best_mm being so long also lets it pop out of the water easier when it hits an object.