Northwest Orient DC-10 Takeoff DTW - Live ATC
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- Опубликовано: 10 июн 2011
- Filmed in spring 1989 at Detroit Metro Airport DTW with ATC communications / Metro Tower. N155US still wearing Northwest Orient titles operating as flight NW 42 to Boston Logan. At the end is another DC-10: Landing what is now runway 22L formally 21R.
Just found out about this clip. This is me! I worked DTW tower from 85-04. Retired with 40 years.
You know that plane has made it around the world ALOT. Spotless! What a work horse for Northwest!
I miss the DC-10. It has always been my favorite passenger aircraft. I was lucky enough to fly on one coming back from my deployment to Iraq in 2010.
Northwest Orient DC-10-40 in classic livery, with that badass buzzsaw engine sound - it doesn't get any better. Thanks for posting this.
what a wonderful year 1989 was, wish I could just rewind my life
I remember flying on a Northwest Orient DC-10 from JFK to Stockholm, Sweden back in 1987. Even though the DC-10 may have had a troubled history, I still consider it as a classic airliner. It's always fun to hear ATC in these videos too. Good job!
never Had a Troubled History at North west
If I ever win the lottery, I'm going to make a DC-10 my HOME. :) The -40 was a great airplane. Nice memory.
a great airline and a great airplane
You did this just right with the air traffic controllers....when the NWA DC-10 made its takeoff, you lowered the volume of the controllers so we could hear this tri-motor takeoff. And best of all, you didn't have any annoying background music either. Thanks for posting!
Yes, GREAT video, AND great soundtrack!
You know, I've heard TONS of people badmouthing
the DC-10 and the MD-11.
But, NEVER a pilot!
Yes, I'm biased. Worked on the MD-11 line, for a year
and a half, gearing the production line up. Then,
Mickey D's laid me and about 50 thousand of my
best friends.
Airplanes were AWESOME, the company and UAW,
"sheet" heads.
steve
@@steveskouson9620 I agree. Back then, because we had no Internet and real time news, when word got out of the few DC-10 accidents, people got so paranoid of the aircraft and it was sensationalized. But after the weakest link was found on the air frame and was subsequently fixed, people already gave the DC-10 a stigma that would last its entire life in service. So unfortunate because according to pilots, it was a joy to fly. To this day, FedEx still uses her albeit with upgraded cockpit goodies, which shows how strong and capable she has always been. I don't know the story about the MD-11 and why her production run didn't last as long, but I just considered her a limo version of the Mad Dog 10.
Sweet video. I love the old birds. I miss Northwest Airline. There was just something different about them. I suppose that they are one of the few airlines that have never let me down. Never once a lost bag, missing flight, diverted flights, nothing. And at one point in my career I was getting more airtime than some pilots! No shit, I was flying sometimes 20 flights a week. I had enough miles saved up that I flew first class to Hawaii once a year.
+Six String Löve I concur, a great video, back in time. I too, miss Northwest Airlines (NW/NWA) prior to it being absorbed (and merged with) into Delta Airlines. NW/NWA was mis-managed by previous CEO's in competitive airline industry. In general, they were on time or ahead of schedule for arrivals to destinations and were good w/ not losing luggage or damaging it, unlike other competing legacy carriers. Morale in company deteriorated prior to merger, as I recall. I do miss older legacy jet aircraft: DC-9's and DC-10s, albeit they were big jet fuel hogs. It would be nice if a new Northwest Airlines comes about or materializes sometime in the future. Not too likely tho.
Wow. That sounded really cool and neat.
@@neomorpheus2494 hopefully if it does come back, it will be competitive :) .... I'm guessing it would start off small like the current Eastern Airlines.
I still go to Detroit metro and watch a DC-10 freight plane take off..it is awesome.
That's nice....
Thanks for capturing and uploading this gem.
Thanks for the journey back in time. Excellent video!
Great vid! Takes me back in time! I flew on a Northwest Orient DC-10 back in 1987 to Stockholm, Sweden from JFK. Thank you!
Great capture, thanks!
loved the dc 10 flew on a few back in the 70s national airlines
I read recently on airliners that the last DC-10 in commercial service will be retired at the end of the year. it is in the middle east somewhere. DC-10 are beautiful and powerful! they had that typical 70's exuberant looks!
I always thought that northwest Orient is a much cooler name than just Northwest.
DC-10 GOLD!! Great video!
Love this video! Thanks
Actually I was born in the 21C but I do miss those jets. Ive never seen DC-10 jets but I do feel fake nostalgia.
My first air travel experience was on that plane in 83
Best sounding plane ever.
I love this livery especially on this airplane
I did manage to fly Northwest DC-10
LAX DTW 1987 with an aborted takeoff !!
The first plane I ever flew on! Glasgow to Boston in 1992. :-)
I recently retired as a Purser from Northwest/Delta, and yes...we were considered the official airline of Scotland. How I miss those days.
Love these good days
Awesome, thank you for sharing
Just revisited this clip after a while. GREAT stuff every time. lol
The DC-10 in this video has the best Northwest livery every. Why they ever changed it, I can't understand...
This type of vid alone is what makes me say GOD BLESS RUclips!
great video :)
When I was in the U.S.Army, I was lucky to have flown on: TWA 707&727, Continental 727, NorthWest 747, 727, & DC-10-30, PSA MD-80
I think that if we all could vote and McDonnel Douglas use brand new plane parts, we can have back and fly on gorgeous and powerful DC10s.
Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful.
Love the ex-Republic MD-82 sneaking into the frame at 0:40. :)
At 1:28 the greatest sound ever made by man starts up and it goes right through you, makes your stomach quiver.
I remember those days. I live near DTW, and flown a lot through there, and in the Spring of 1989, I came home from the military. I have ridden in a DC-10 before. I was stationed in Hawaii up till 1989, and remember a bunch of Northwest Orient 747's at Honolulu Int Arpt. When I did fly on the DC-10, I did not know about the crashes, but at the same time, while aboard, I felt strangely uncomfortable on that thing.
Could've been the sound of the #3 engine that you weren't used to. I flew on an AA DC-10 from San Diego to Chicago back in '93 and was so excited to be on that mammoth. Soon after takeoff, as we were reaching the mountains, the turbulence got so bad that I knew it was going to be my last day on earth. I'm sure I left fingertip indentations on my armrests. Lol Well, as luck would have it, I made it back home safe and sound at O'Hare on that beautiful Silverbird.
All these heavies flying short domestic routes. Those were the days!!! I remember flying a National Airlines 747 from JFK to MIA as a kid in 1972.
Beautiful site
The Best Ailines in the World
ATC like a boss
Don't forget about the cockpit technology. The MD-80 had an early-generation glass cockpit, while the DC-9s used traditional analogue instruments.
Nice video
Wow nice video :)
@jjouney oh wow, WOW! Now I cannot wait to see that!!!
i miss this plane she was a wonderful old girl
@Starboard76 Indeed I do! I will post it soon
The JT9D engines for sure
One thing I hate about modern air travel is today's planes aren't as distinguished as they once were. Back then, you could look at a plane from 5 miles away and know it's a 747, DC10, L1011, 707, or 727. Nowadays, unless you're savvy, you don't know whether it's an A350 or B787, A330 or B767, A321 or B757.
freakin beautiful
loved it :-)
-40. Love it!
One of my favorites! I might be wrong, but I'm fairly certain that was Detroit Metropolitan Airport it took off from since, again correct me if I am wrong, Detroit was a Northwest hub. What airport did it land at?
+Niklas Enblom Same airpot. Both clips here were taken at Detroit Metro in the spring of 1989
@AccessAir I know that. Hence the "[Irony!]" tag. From that angle though, the two are kind of hard to tell apart without counting windows or taking a closer look at the engine nacelles.
We used to have a radio that we listened to flights with at DTW and I used to take my kids and we would watch planes land about 30 to 40 feet above our heads. Detroit Metro deemed it unsafe and blocked off the area to spectators. We did this back in the 1990's.
That was a popular spot to park and watch airplanes fly overhead and land. It was closed off after 9/11.
@AccessAir yes I do. I will post that and other vintage clips in the coming weeks.
Started with NWA in 89' and flew this aircraft several times from Sea....
Excellent footage...please tell me you've got a Northwest 'Orient' 747 in the stash there somewhere!
Even though they're being retired from passenger service, FedEx and other cargo carriers will still operate them for several more years. The USAF plans to continue operating its KC-10s for another 30 years.
@WhateverMcCoy Thats actually a former RC DC9-50.....
DTW FTW. This airport is getting more traffic each month !!
"Heavy refers to passenger Laden"??? Why do people comment without a clue?? It relates to the potential wake Turbulence an aircraft may leave behind as an advisory to other aircraft to maintain adequate separation. Heavy was used because it was heavies such as 747, DC10 and Tristar that produced these vortices, however due to wing design aircraft such as the 757 now have to call Heavy due to Turbulence risk to other aircraft.
Hmmm. Ok I just thought it was relegated to large aircraft. DC-9's and such weren't called 'heavy.'
Rare.
What's that DC-9 livery before the DC-10 takes off? I've never seen that - plain white with a red tail and just "Northwest" titles. Was that a transition livery? A half-repainted Republic plane or something?
Most likely a new acquisition from another airline that NW hadn't finished painting. I believe it was around that time when Northwest was dropping the "Orient" from their livery. Sad time because for me, it will always be Northwest Orient. That's the name of the airline when I was growing up and it still is my favorite.
Read the description. Filmed in 1989
This NWA liveri s RAW and Badass!
Dc10_40 with prat n Whitney engines
There are still some airports that will allow you to film, although certainly less than before.
sweet!
@AccessAir Oops, my Bad the DC9-50 is 133.5 feet long, the DC9-40 is 125.5......
DC-10-40
the days when you could get near the fence without being called a terrorist
@tonyde52 EXACTLY!
I agree about the last livery though...it was bad enough to almost make me feel sick.
Do you have any footage of Mesaba/NW Airlink F-27s???
They changed their livery to the red and grey "Bowling Shoe" livery in 1989 and changed their name to Northwest Airlines following a merger with Republic Airlines.
Heavy refers to an aircrafts gross weight being more than 400,000 pounds if I am not mistaken!I could be wrong though,its been a while for me!!!
Spent some time sideways in one of these.....wish I could've made it to the right front which I was awarded....just a little shy I fell......STILL KNOWING NO FAULT OF MY OWN!
Heavy is >255,000lb, so it includes all widebodies, Concorde, 707, and some 757's.
And the Airbus A380 gets its own designation: Superheavy
This has got to be 20 -25 year old video footage.
They ran the hell out of their planes!
2017 . . . not a single death in commercial air travel. It's scary to look back at that DC-10 and think how truly unsafe air travel potentially was 30 years ago.
Most crashes/accidents of the dc-10 was from human error. only 1 of the instances was the fault of the plane.
@@shaddydeevy9811 Right, human error assisted by an inferior aircraft. Airplanes today can takeoff, navigate 5,000 miles and land on their own. The pilots are practically just there in case something goes wrong.
Mcdonnell douglas issued a service bulletin to Turkish Airlines to fix the cargo door issues, and they were not, that's why the turkish airlines dc-10 crashed. Had they been done, no accident
would have occurred. American 191
was the fault of the airline, with the maintenance crews taking shortcuts which damaged the engine pylon. United 232 was due to a manufacturing defect of the cf6 engine, and could have happened with any other plane.
DTW-BOS is rather short hop for a DC-10. Was this flight continuing to London or Amsterdam?
If not, positioning the aircraft to an international or coast-to-coast route. I remember flying a Northwest Orient 747 from DTW to JFK nearly empty but they were positioning the aircraft to fly to Stockholm from JFK that evening.
@AccessAir DC-9, MD-82, what's the difference? [Irony!]
Well, there are two possibilies:
1. You go to Bangladesh and reserve a flight in a civil DC-10 operated by Biman Bangladesh
2. You go to the Air Force and ask how much it will cost to fly for a short time in a KC-10 aircraft.
why is there are a northwest orient dc10 and a northwest dc9 ?
edit I just saw the description
DC-10-40 had not made it to the paint shop yet, they dropped the "ORIENT" IN "89. I was painting there DC-9's in Everett, Washington at that time.
That is a DC-10-40. THey are practically non-existent today. The only PW-powered version of the DC-10.
@WhateverMcCoy About 22 feet shorter and the DC9-50 (125 feet long) has less powerful smaller engines than the MD-82 (147 feet long)...Thats the difference..
I though the dc-10 had only two main gear legs, and the ms-11 had three... what's the deal with that how did they work?
This is probably a DC-10-30. The DC-10-10 had two main gear. The rest had 3.
geterdonein01 It's a DC-10-40, Northwest was the only early operator (JAL followed after); you can recognize them by the slightly bulbous shape of the #2 engine air intake, typical of the P&W engines (MD11 adopted it for their air-hungrier engines, both P&W and GE). You're correct (mostly) on the landing gears, series 10 and 15, plus a few 40Ds for Japanese high density domestic traffic had only the two main gears. All the 30s and the rest of the 40s had the triple unit.
sobelou Good to know! Thanks for the info!
"Northwest Orient (gong) Airlines."
"We Give You Half The World"
Loved NWA but I swear they had the drrrrtiest planes.
I agree! This livery was god awful. They should have cleaned and polished the bare metal, extended the lower blue cheatline to the nose and put the NWO logo on the tail. I didn't care for the red jackets the female flight attendants wore, either. This airline was so bare bones, like being at the post office. As far as international airlines of the day, TWA and Pan Am were far superior in service and pizzazz.
what does "heavy" mean in ATC lingo? and was that Northwest Orient the predecessor to what was later Northwest Airlines?
Heavy means passenger laden. "Orient" was just a change in name. NWA started out as Northwest Airways and went through several name changes before finally ending up as Northwest Airlines after acquiring North Central Airlines and merging with Republic Airlines in the late 80's.
Daniel Barnes
"Heavy refers to passenger Laden"??? Why do people comment without a clue?? It relates to the potential wake Turbulence an aircraft may leave behind as an advisory to other aircraft to maintain adequate separation. Heavy was used because it was heavies such as 747, DC10 and Tristar that produced these vortices, however due to wing design aircraft such as the 757 now have to call Heavy due to Turbulence risk to other aircraft.
Heavy refers to wide body aircraft (like B747 or A340/80). It does make difference when handling inbound and outbound air traffic as heavy/powerful planes leave stronger and longer vortexes. Longer time separations are needed between these planes.
winni223 A380s have special denomination : "super".
Actually "heavy" means passenger laden, not empty.
DC10 40 NORTHWEST, JAPAN AIRLINES, AEROFLOT ONLY THEY HAD DC10 40S
Actually, I prefer the 1968 livery. At least on the 727s.
GE engine roar
This livery looks aweful! THe last NWA livery was the best-looking one, especially on those 742s.
That ATC controller sure is BUSY!!
No, I wasn't very busy. This was just average traffic at DTW
@chicagoman58 agreed. the last "nwa" livery was dreadful.
Anyone know why they dropped “Orient” from their title after they merged with Republic?
The terms "Occident" (west) and "Orient" (east) have become archaic. The legal name of the company was always Northwest Airlines, Inc. They added "Orient" for branding and marketing purposes after the company was awarded routes to the Orient after WWII. They merely wanted to capitalize on and bring attention to their new routes. Once the domestic routes of Republic came into the picture in 1986, the company felt the need to drop the "Orient" tag which was unfortunate but apparently necessary.
@@ez8546 Interesting!! Mahalo 🤙🏽 for the reply! Aloha 🤙🏽
I liked NWA, but it didn't make any difference what livery NW planes were, I swear they were the durrrrtiest of all the airlines. 8(
why the third engine?
Because it looks cool?
JMMT7022801 LOL
Annsdf Boylen
dc-10-40s are bit quiet