Wong Shun Leung: The King of Talking Hands 講手王
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- Опубликовано: 31 янв 2015
- The first in it's kind, a feature documentary based solely on the life of a Great Grandmaster Wong Shun Leung. spoken in his own worlds with recollections of the famous martial artist Bruce Lee and Kung Fu legends Leung Jan and Ip Man.
Exclusive, never before seen footage of WSL
Including interviews from his son Johnathan Wong and his fellow classmate Tong Jo Chi [ Ronald Tong] ]
Directed & Produced by Wang Zhi Peng (in cooperation with Chinese State Television)
Edited & Translated by Jai Harman
Special thanks go to:
Jonathan Wong [ Wong Shun Leung's Eldest Son ]
Tong Jo Chi [ Student of Ip Man and junior classmate to WSL ]
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For those who don't get what "Talking Hands" means: In Cantonese it translated as "Let the hands do the talking" which means "sparring". Wong is good at "free-style sparring" with different styles(not necessarily limited in Chinese Kung Fu), thus he was named "The King of Sparring".
Thank you for the explanation. I was waiting for the clip showing his hands talk.
There is no useless or best style. It's all about the right teacher, the right student and the right mental approach. I really respect master Wong, he was such a selfless person. I had the honor to see Master Phillip Bayer myself. Master Wan from Beijing also impresses me a lot.
So basically the reason why Bruce Lee and Jai Harman are such good fighters is because of their lineage both trace back to WSL Wing Chun. I agree, traditional Wing Chun needed to be reformed for the late 20th century. If you look at most good Wing Chun fighters, they are either modified or JKD inspired fighters with a strong WC foundation.
In my opinion that is the true essence to complement Wing Chun and make it shine these days.
Jai brother... You did a very good job!!!
Loved watching this short but very good video. Thank you so much :)
Nice job producing this documentary. I loved it!
Thanks for sharing! Have an awesome day!
Really Enjoyed watching this video !
Awesome. Simply awesome.
Thanks for sharing.
I'm proud to say I'm a 3rd generation fighter of Wing Chun from him, being taught by a sifu who was taught by him
+Eren Nova Tk Read this post and watch the videos. This is how real Wing Chun ought to be in combat. articientwingchun.blogspot.com/2016/01/is-articient-wing-chun-real-deal-check.html
Hi
read my explanation above it's a total garbage
@@beckware l can see any thing
What about Gary lam
i like wong shun leung because he is good kung fu master!!!!!!
Very interesting. Well done.
Shared on our Ving Tsun Facebook page
No mention of Nino Bernado, David Peterson (or dare I say, Clive potter)?
Ahhh, interests...
elenderoner David who? he only trained with wong sifu in school holidays and was supposed to train under barry lee and did not
Very good, Very accurate, great man.
What's the name of the song in the opening of this video, please?
Anyone knows the name of the song at start/end of the video?
where we can find it ?
Wing Chun is not a "style." It is an art that helps you find your style.
Well said
No, it’s only skill.
Thank you for education...
Vs jiu-jitsu or Thai boxing..?
where does Ho Kam Ming fit in all of this?
Interesting documentary, but no mention of Wu Ming Jeet.
Yen Xiao Qing(嚴少强) are not the student of Wong Shun Leung (黄淳樑)
As I understand it, this is the best student of ip man who can apply in a real battle Wing Chun at the highest quality,
I hope that he and the son of ip man pose the same Heritage👍
And It turns out that he is a teacher Bruce Lee,
From unofficial sources ip man refused to teach Bruce Lee at first From what I understand because of the arrogance But after a while the relationship changed.
todo los vídeos son excente
nice stuff!
Yim Siu Keung(嚴少强)is not a student of Wong Shun Leung
This great master was once the Wing Chun teacher of legend Bruce Lee 🙏💐💙
grandmaster Moy Yat was not even mentioned, why not? he was one of the first and longest students of Grandmaster Yip
Because the video is about wong his best student
kann man die docu auf dvd bestellen?
Sie brauchen die DVD nicht zu kaufen, es gerade aus dem RUclips-Video zu erfahren
I see some familiar faces around 14.30. I see moi fa wing chun. great respect to all.
why do they call him the talking hand?
Great wc. How ever any one can do this in a few lesson. All they doing is changing the angle .just so ever slightly. Either to the write or left or up and down or in a circle motion.
Did he ever fight the Chow Gar Tong Long Sifu in HK ?
Yes, according to my memories he did, he fought the above mentioned style boxing(朱家螳螂)in his young days, he gain no advantage and actually very unpleasant, he even met an fatal defeat in a competition with Tae Kwon do, a savage kick broke his rib bone and was rushed to hospital, very annoyed, he is eager for another fight, I can even remember he had a street fight with a Karate instructor, both drunkard, he knocked the guy fully unconscious,
Well, no one ever wins, as do all sports and athletes, start from beginning they all comes a long, hard way.
As do the Title implies, he challenged numerous sort of martial artists, and for this he is"famous".
maybe i missed it but YIPman is his peer and not teacher right? so since dr. leung (ling) ting learn from YIPman, so that makes wong shun leung and dr ling ting peers too?
Wong Sheung Leung was the elder Kung fu brother of Leung Ting.
P.s Wing Chun is a Fighting System you have to learn for many many hours a day, it's not a fighting style what you will learn in a few months.
Its complexity and understanding are of high level, you have to train hard for it, before you will understand it.
Many hours a day and unable to learn in a few months' time? Does this even make sense to you? Let's recreate the condition of the ancient times whereby wars were frequently happening. Let's imagine you are a new soldier who's going to be enlisted to the military to fight the enemies. Your enemies are learning Ju Jitsu, Karate, Boxing, Muay Thai and other styles of Chinese martial arts; your side is learning the current mainstream Wing Chun. The enemies are training their soldiers and they will attack your side within 3 to 6 months' time. Are you trying to tell the entire world that you are going to tell the enemies to postpone the attack to few years later? Is this statement of yours regarding Wing Chun realistic or unrealistic? If it wouldn't apply in the ancient times, it won't apply now too. You guys are simply doing Wing Chun because of propaganda, not because you have seen anyone using it effectively or realistically. Therefore, something must be scientifically wrong with the instruction globally.
Sorry, i couldn't let this go, are you really blind?
I said many hours!!!!!!!!, not years!!!!!!! are you really so blind to sit so much behind your computer?
Let me explain more simple for you.
You train 2 days a week.
1 day you train for 2 hours.
so two days are 4 hours, you still follow me?
I train 8 hours a day.
For 5 days.
That is 40 hours a week.
Result, i will kick your ass to the Moon.
Find the real masters in wing-chun dumbass, you will only feel it and be convinced
if you train with them, i don't give a damn about your mainstream wing-chun and what you see on you tube.
I'm talking about realmasters and people who really trained there ass off,you get it now?or are you still blind and keep posting dumb answers, or maybe you kick on that, go into politics then, i think they will like you there.
Greetings from Holland
***** - You can't train your natural reflexes in a short time. Robert is right. It seems, that you have no clue about the wing chun system and what it's meant for (not for competetion, not for war, just self defence) . and it seems, that you think it would be not very effective, which is totally bullshit.
Desperadio Wrong. We have records of training up someone in Wing Chun within 2 hours plus to spar with someone who was trained in other martial arts for many years. Your mainstream Wing Chun could train someone for decades yet the trainees still could not spar realistically. How do you explain this? Something has to be wrong with the instructions globally, right? Hope that you are using your basic thinking skill. :)
***** - I even don't know what you mean with the word mainstream wing chun and for some other onesided views it is hard to take you serious. Wing Chun is a style which develops and there exists many different styles worldwide, so there are not such things like global instructions. The sparring, as competetion like in boxing, is not part of the training. Just lat sao and chi sao for developing reflexes, combining techniques... and when you master this, you can go on with free fightig. In the origin wc system there are no competetion elements scheduled (it's also not sports, it's an art) so I can't see the point in comparing it with other sport fighting styles. And it is neurologically impossible to learn wc in 2 hours. This is bullshits finest. You really should practise it, instead of posting some theoretical nonsense in the internet ;)
beautiful :-)
THE ONE'S WHO GIVE DISLIKE TO THIS KIND OF VIDEOS DOESN'T UNDERSTAND NOTHING ABOUT THIS STYLE TO NOT MENTION THAT THEY PROOF TO BE TOTAL IGNORANTS IN MATER OF MARCIAL ARTS
* Gary Lam, Ng Chun Hong?
嚴少强唔.係黄師傅徒弟，佢係跟李桓昌，之後佢跟李反目。請上傳者更正！
can wong shun leung defeat k1 and ufc fighters?
He had this one fight with a 2m russian boxer called giko
Martial arts & Music the Russian boxer was said too be 240 lbs that was during the time the Russians were bullying the Chinese with intimidation, Wong Shun Leung finished the fight in 3 punches and said too be a real fighter during that time, that just goes too show how deadly Ip Man was as a human
I'm thankful to Sifu Brian Edwards... I've been in Wing Chun since1986 I started training 5 days a week 4hrs a day for 4yrs... The more I trained....the less I fought. My entire ( hood) nature changed. I'm now a Pastor loving Gods people... Which is all people... I often wonder... How good Jesus would have been in Wing Chun.. What an example of peace... Thanks for letting me share..
Good pastor ! Can you transfer your spirit of Wingchun training to Christian discipleship training onto your sheep?
@@yymjyyobjka1302 We are living epistles.. I believe that everyone's book is different... And varies in many ways...
Sorry guys, a really stupid question. What's the difference between ving tsun and Wing chun? I'm a beginner and starting very late.
+MegaLochgelly One is the modified (ving tsun) and the other, the complete traditional. You see, the modified is missing key elements that make it work properly. These elements are proper footwork (the circle inside the triangle), proper way to close the distance, using initial contact and an ANGLED step to the outside of the attacking arm with a body rotation square (as per one of the ten concepts) and the TEN CONCEPTS, which not only dictate proper response, but give the system it's flexibility (ALL TEN MUST BE USED AT ONCE OR THE SYSTEM IS WEAKENED). WSL was taught the modified system, but was extremely smart. He realized that the system was lacking in the proper footwork and the proper way to close the distance, which is wing chun's strong point. So he develop a way to do that. He uses a saying, Loi Lau Hoi Sung, Lat Sau Jik. This translates to the following edict:
Loi Lau- This means to "engage the enemy, stay with them and form a bridge with the attack, intercepting the path it takes."
Hoi Sung- This means to "take advantage of their errors, following their mass of center when they withdraw, attacking the opponent without worries."
Lat Sau Jik- This means when the hands are released, ATTACK DIRECTLY WITHOUT HESITATION! (Very important!). All this information is in the book by Master Allen Gibson called Beginning Wing Chun.
This edict is the basis for his system and overcomes one of the flaws of modified wing chun, which is closing the distance properly.
So Wing Chun is better or ving tsun?
Wing chun. The traditional is complete, with the proper footwork, proper way to close the distance, and the ten concepts. If you have to do modified, then look for the Wong Shun Leung system. It is almost as good, but is still missing proper footwork and the ten concepts. I would suggest you do some background checks if you decide to go to a wing chun school to see if they do realistic training, sparring with other schools and also other wing chun schools, have grappling, weapons and multiple opponent training, which completes the training.
The true story was, Wong Shun Leung changed the spelling to VT because of the mockery being made at the time from different schools, calling it " Toilet Gung-Fu (WC)
So who was a better fighter Bruce lee or WSL?
Great question, but it's similar in a way to asking about Cus D'Amato and Tyson. The better fighter isn't always the one doing the fighting. Without Cus D'Amato, Tyson would just have brute strength and anger. Without Wong Shun Leung, Bruce Lee would be a scrappy little teenager without any direction for his mischievous behavior.
Jai Harman so who was a better. fightet? WSL did not look as strong fast as bruce..he looked very soft ..
Bruce Lee had probably less than a tenth of the fights of WSL. He was charismatic and very athletic but ultimately was a relative novice in the system. There is far too much Bruce Lee fetishizing that goes on like he's some martial arts Jesus
With due respect Most Masters instill confidence in their students not necessarily great fighting skills,. One issues is that Wing mostly train withing themselfs and this limits the persecption of attack. Wing Chun .well I would say . .this works best only when you can street fight well first then is best for defense ( I trained WC for 4 years about 4 hours a week. W.C . . . it all looks good choreographed but in reality it is different and most people use weapons now days & U never know what some is going to pull out, so it is better to practice non violent escape methods.
In some respects, I agree. However, in my view, it is what we want to make out of the art we practise. If we subscribe to WC being a "concepts" based martial arts, then it is not an issue to cross train with other martial arts to see how we can adapt to the current trend of "fighting". I don't deny that the current training regime of chi sau or forms has their limitations, but I do think that they lay the foundations of what WC is. The rest, is up to the practitioner.
my parens would like to learn wing chun and tai chi!!!!!!
We have a disclosure course of Wing Chun on Udemy, search for Smart Research Wing Chun or Wing Chun Kuen Awakening on Google.
im confused now, this guy taught bruce lee or ip man?
Bruce Lee. Ip Man was his teacher
Wong Shun Leung is Ip Man's best student.
When Bruce joined Ip Man, Ip Man was already quite old and his health wasn't the best.
So Ip Man got Wong Shun Leung to tutor Bruce Lee.
So if Master Ip Man was martial father to Bruce, Wong Shun Leung is Bruce's Martial Big Brother.
每家每派都有其專長主要是看你如何能發揮沒實戰就只是武學誰在每日都練就是工夫
Я переведу : "У каждой семьи есть своя специализация. Главным образом увидеть, как можно играть без боя. Это просто боевые искусства."
Hi I was trained by Dave Petersen he was trained by Wong shun Leung
Missed out Gary Lam
There's always going to be someone missed out. Too many to cover
The historical consensus about a southern shaolin existing as a fact? I dont think so. By the time the Manchus came to power, the shaolin fighting force in Henan province was gone. What challenge did they pose, nevermind a "southern" one? It seems more likely that the "heaven and earth" societies of the time co-opted the Shaolin name and fame for their own anti-manchu purposes. There were Buddhist temples in the south but it doesnt seem like they had a paramilitary component of soldier monks like Shaolin. They didnt cite any sources on this video. I cite professor meir shahar's the shaolin monastery.
Wan kam leung is my sifu
im not sure that's how wing chun started. didn't she survive when all the other masters died while they were trying to make a style based on economy of movement after losing masters to fatigue in battle?
this is cool Jai wong sifu would be pissed off at the behaviour of his Aussie students , some of them any way
13:16 还以为那真的是李小龙
I learn for 15 in this style. Then I have a roll with another wing chun person.and was easly defeated. Then he told me its internal wing chun. So I'm a little confused. I thought wong shung lung was the best. Then why was i not tought the internal wing chun. So doze anyone no about this. Be well appreciated
OMG, the Ip Man movies were cool, but hardly happened.
Biased, but very good material and well presented nevertheless. Thank you for sharing.
What I found shocked me & interesting bc I always seen Stephen Chow somehow he know martial arts as it seen in his moves but I did not heard of what martial he has learning or learnt. Now I know :)
Wingchun is complex and not for the masses.
Chu Shong Tin was miles better than all of the rest.
I no his real good. But I was told this is external wing chun. Not internal.
Many Chinese and nothing didactic interest, only Chinese tale
學問 8:58
...not the same as "education" or "educated"
Each successful block of an attack would disturb the opponent. Many continuous successful blocks would be many disturbances. This should (would) cause imbalance in the opponent. That gives the wing chun user an advantage. If the user is fast enough, the practice of wing chun as blocking method can disperse arrows and spears, not only an attacker's punches and kicks.
JKD jeet kun do is to intercept, or block (intercept fist way). Unless one is the instigator of a fight, it would be best and logical to block any attacks and find the right moment to counterattack should a counterattack be necessary.
would love to see this tested against MMA.
try the SBA wing chun channel. The only wc-channel where they fight, and not the usual "we are to deadly to demonstrate"-garbage. They dont claim to be "the best", they fight for it. I found them by accident after spending months laughing at wing chun video`s and the charlatans that claim to know it, then these guys showed up - first time I respected Wing Chun at all. (SBA = Shaolin boxing association).
Go to Dan insansto schools been doing that for years
Wing Chun is unique
Can someone clarify something. - Steven Seagal keeps announcing that he was taught by Ip Man himself and that he is one of the 7 people in the world that
is allowed to teach Wing Chung and that Ip Man assigned him the title of Grand Master of Wing Chung. He mentioned this to several News Station interviews & a few others.
Can someone clarify this for me. Was he even around Ip Man at all ?? Did he even know Ip Man at all ?
Ip man never taught a westerner ,and Steven was in Japan training
9:43
Chi ne se. 拆腻死。。。。发音很好笑。
Do you know the king of talking perth🤣
I dont want to be a smarta..., but i dont get it why ppl still write the name as "Wong Shun Leung" in 2021.
This was the way the name was written 50 or 100 years ago, but not today anymore.
Its either in kantonese Wong Shun-leung or Wong Shunleung, or in mandarin Huang Chunliang.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wong_Shun-leung
The Yale romanization has been overtaken by Hanyu Pinyin, which is more evolved and better understandable for western people.
In chinese and korean the names basically consist of 3 single symbols, and they are written together without a space between them. If you translate them word to word it would be:
WongShunLeung
But this is not common in the west. But even Wong Shun Leung can be confusing since many ppl with think Shun is a middle name (like John Fitzgerald Kennedy), and the given name would only by Leung.
Wong Shun-leung or Huang Chunliang shows clearly the 2 names Shun/Chun and Leung/Liang belong together which they do.
如果你不想听起来个笨蛋,学习中文汉字你会写他的名字。黃淳樑。 更多人知道用他的香港本地人的广东话的名
@@jaiharman1 Hi. I used Google translator and i hope the translation was correct. :-D
No, you misunderstood my point. I know the cantonese writing is right because WSL came from Hong Kong where the people speak cantonese.
My point was the writing of his given name "Shun Leung" is not up to date.
I give you an example:
A) Wong Shun Leung
B) Wong Shun-leung
C) Wong Shunleung
In B and C it is easy to see the two names of his given name, Shun and Leung, belong together.
While in A many western people can be confused. I know you in China dont have middle names, but we in the West do.
- Wong Shun Leung
- John Fitzgerald Kennedy
If a Westerner reads this, he most likely will think "Shun" is a middle name, and only "Leung" is his given name.
But if the name is written as "Shun-leung" (with hyphen) or "Shunleung", its clear "Shun" is not a middle name, and "Leung" is not a given name, and the two names belong together.
That was my point.
Best regards
Steven Seagal tried to eat this video
I AM FROM HONG KONG 🇭🇰🇭🇰🇭🇰🇭🇰🇭🇰 我来自香港.
HSBCHONGKONG HOGUN X2
anyone who thinkgs he is the king isnt familiar with tsui tseung tin
+eyewishwalrus There were four kings in the Ip Man era. Chu Shong Tin is called the King of Siu Nim Tao; Wong Shun Leung is called the King of Talking Hand. "Talking hand" means "asking for a fight". Wong Shun Leung liked to go to other martial arts schools to challenge their Sifu s. Chu Shong Tin is known for his thorough understanding of the entire Wing Chun fighting system which originates from the first form Siu Nim Tao.
yeah i knowthat but the one who has developed real true be like water power with the weakest fram is chu shong tin. watch his videos the others were forcing strength more
+eyewishwalrus Not totally true. Wing Chun is both soft and hard. Before any contact, you need to be relaxed like water. Once there is any contact, you need to apply force. Of course, you don't apply blind force. You need to apply wise force using your reflects. What do we mean by "wise" force? Wise force is based on simple physics principles of center of gravity, torque and force and biological principles of joint and muscle movements.
yeah no shit but the one who demonstrates the most power who you would think has the least with the most true impressive demonstrations that dont rely on speed is chu shong tin
+eyewishwalrus You can call him "King of Talking Shit" instead. LOL
Double leg and its over
Although he is famous of talking hands but when he first joined a ring of combat inTaiwan, he was kicked down by a Local fighter and sent to hospital, this fact disappointed Bruce and made him find the true form for real fight, not Wingchun anymore. In fact, when I was young there were different styles of Wingchun in Hong Kong, not only Yip Man style,
And that's where jkd and wsl ving tsun was born. Both are very simple and effective.
About joining the ring. It was the first time wing chun was tested in a ring. Yeah Bruce was disappointed, but used wing chun in a boxing match in his school. Bruce used Tan da and jik Chung chuie to win. His Kung Fu brother Hawkins Cheung used pak da but got disqualified. So yeah Bruce studied that fight and found what happened. But Bruce still feared Wong
You know very little truth about both Wong Shun Lueng or Bruce Lee.
Do you know how long Bruce Lee was a student of Yip Man ?
No you clearly do not.
Do you know who were the two senior students who trained Bruce Lee.
Bruce Lee spoke very highly of Wong for a very good reason.
You dont know that either
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I want to fight with you!
Is he Wong jackman?
It’s a shame that with the thousands of wing chun people around the world not one is willing to be the next talking hands and prove themselves like Wong did.The only talking these wing chun guys do today is on RUclips against their inferior students pretending to be a fighter.
fernando linton there are a lot of good masters but most of them live in Hong Kong and Taiwan and are old but skilled and teaching real skilled students
Qing !!!
Ugh....Listening to this debate is ridiculous. First of all we have no idea of who existed even if there are records. A lot of these people kept them selves out of records I mean what would you even consider a record something written down in the 1800s LOL? Ridiculousness five elders you want to believe in the five elders because someone wrote that down but you can't believe and the other thing because no one wrote that down. Ridiculous. I've trained with all those sorts of people out there and there are so many stories and so many secrets A lot of these people were teaching modified stuff to their own people, the Chinese and records are purposely kept vague. This is not Nazi Germany LOL which gave up all of the actions and same with Cuba LOL, "person took a shit at 4:30 PM while it was raining and there was a cardinal in the tree on June 13, 1924"....lol
WC is made up of a lot of arts because all of those guys were friends and everybody was looking for a system that wouldn't take 30 years to master and learn how to handle yourself because people were dropping dead. All of these people were aiming toward the same goal. To mention CLF is kind of a fart. Because that's like 3 million forms and low stances and absolutely really no influence. WC is closest with it's very straightforward honestly the whole group of Fukien Style kung fu, and often a lot of Hakka Kuen as well... Which encompasses the previous and actually has influenced it and that goes all the way back to Mongolian guards. The biggest relatives and you're confusing CLF with something like Jow Gar. GG is actually a close relative even though the forms are complex and may look northern lights CLF which is Southern and looks northern, when they fight they fight very much like WC and all the rest of those things. Believe it or not the WC guys they all cross trained a lot of the other arts like say of Wudang. Especially and even though it's northern, Hsing-i. The footwork of course is performed differently but the way they think and the way they fight is very similar. As well, we know there are 1 million forms of WC and if you don't know that you're clueless. From Sum Nung, tube infinite. Shaolin versions northern versions whatever the hell you want to say. The closest relatives to WC are the Fukien and Hakka arts.
White Eyebrow, Chu gar, jk tong long "Southern mantis", Leung Ying, Fukien White crane, Jow Gar, Hung gar, Fu Jow pai, Five animals systems, and on and on. And obviously WC may have very similar motions and ideas of vectors and strategy and how they move with root, And the feeling of the arms, and legs, but WC is the only one that really takes it a different direction kind of and really is like a skeleton that can be turned into anything. It is much more of the scientific approach that is kind of an empty shell and if the student has intentions are only to just fight ...he won't get very far.
The funny thing is WC, with a decent teacher and an average student with in six months they are handling themselves very well in real situations LOL I know for a fact because I've seen it during the Mariel boatlift lol. But it is so much deeper and it is such a Taoist and Zen Buddhist....Confucian as well. WC provides for the thinker, a tremendous seed that is planted that allows the practitioner to develop into this beautiful tree that is shaped in a very particular and personal manner but still has the same roots :-) Look all of this talk is ridiculous everybody knows what martial arts is about watching these films and looking at history I mean it's a waste of time. The way you're going to find out the real deal and so on is by training very hard and lucky enough to have a good teacher, traveling and you will learn secrets as they are exposed. WC is a very reticent form. I have to say studying all of those are it's above my first and favorite being WC, there are a lot of people that do WC like shit. They just want to be able to move their arms around really fast and be able to do chi sao All day and play tag game. Movement, root, finding your center, your breath everything ....:those things are so fundamental to this art and if they are not learned very well you're not going to do well. You're not going to do well anywhere but especially not in WC. Watching documentaries and things like that in talking about whether or not a Buddhist mistress existed or not is like entry-level childish or early freshman time study of the beginning of WC. It doesn't matter you just get a general idea and the stories told however is told you that's it.
Don't read this crap, practice! Slowly and with the correct intention.
wow, such fantasy
Well DodoPhe there are some things going on you seem not to be knowing anything about !!! TRUST ME !!! Now way call me names ??? I am not doing that to people !!!
Looks like other styles like Kung fu, where it’s only designed to fight other practitioners who know the drills and stand still with no resistance while you chain punch them 20 times. That’s why it looks great in the movies, because it’s like a dance where both parties no the steps. This style against MMA would be the equivalent of a ball room dancer trying to dance with Hip hop dancer. Which is what a real fight is like, when your opponent is unpredictable.
Come on, man, that is TOTALLY inaccurate! There was no such person as Ng Mui or Wing Chun. There are NO records of their existence. Wing chun was made by the five elders of the Shaolin temple and consists of White eyebrow, white crane, hung gar, choy li fut and Shaolin. Do your homework! Great video, very informative.
Yes, he was a great master and someone who actually understand the inner workings of wing chun. And to be fair, there was no Ng Mui or Wing Chun. There are no records of them ever existing.
I too have heard from respected Wing Chun practitioner/historian Robert Chu that there was no Ng Mui or Yim Wing Chun and the style was certainly not developed from watching one, lone animal battle. I think this whole 'womanly' art that only uses techniques and no strength is a marketing ploy, the same malarky that the Gracie fanatics say about their God, Helio Gracie.
Right, that was just a rouse, to keep the Manchurian government off the trail of the Shaolin temple, where they trained and developed wing chun. It was designed by the five elders, and include the best of white crane, white eyebrow, choy li fut, hung gar and shaolin. Each elder added the best of his system, and all extraneous movements were taken out to make the system more efficient, effective, and it also cut the time it took to master in half. No, that part is correct. We don't use strength, but deflection, footwork, and the ten concepts, which not only dictate proper response, but give the system it's flexibility and take out all flaws that are in other systems.
What is CLF? Traditional wing chun is a complete system, including stand up, grappling, anti-take down techniques, locks and throws, weapons and even multiple opponent and pressure point training. Bruce Lee only knew 2/3rds of the modified system, so he didn't know the whole system.
Yes, it is a complete system, although it isn't taught that way in many modified schools. And it is composed of five systems, Choy li fut, hung gar, white crane, white eyebrow and shaolin, from the five elders of the Shaolin Temple.
Dancing
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Lol yeah maybe bruse Lee taught him
the king of perth🤣
Documentary or propaganda of myth and folklore? If the Wing Chun that they were doing was indeed efficient, the result would have been repeatable. But if we look at the current result of Wing Chun, how often do we see Wing Chun practitioners doing clumsy and unrealistic martial art? And how often do we see them being defeated by non-Wing Chun practitioners? Analyze things before you believe in them.
Ugh... it's this guy again...
If you spend as much time looking up the people you talk about and actual training as you do talking on youtube, you'd be enlightened by now.
MCBosmans Hope you aren't here to worship Wing Chun propaganda.
i love how you are judging a style on "practitioners". of course they're clumsy, they are in fact practitioners. it's not just you the entire world is guilty of this. it's like saying this third grader doesn't know half of what it takes to be a good brain surgeon. well no crap! he is a third grader.
another point, seems to me most if not all martial combat systems feel and say their's is the best, most evolved, or efficient. when the truth is it's in the application not the style. just saying
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No, I am here to adress your apparant anti-Wing Chun propaganda :) I'm not really in the business of worshipping stuff.
MCBosmans You got it wrong then. The propaganda is from the mainstream Wing Chun; not us. If you aren't supporting the worship thing, you ought to look at the scientific fact of physics and body mechanics rather than blindly siding them. You are siding the wrong side, dude.
All these imaginary masters getting one-punch ko'ed by amateur MMA fighers in China
Those are fake masters not real ones
A very nice story however, to this day no wing chung or kung fu fighters have survived long in MMA fighting. I don't know if it is because the contenders are not proficient enough, or these systems just can't hold up in real fighting competition. I really don't know.....................................I'm just saying.
Check Alan Orr and San Dao wing chun
OK.....thank you.
@@SlingbladeJim you're welcome also check videos where wing chun fought in lei tai matches
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@@SlingbladeJim I hope after watching the videos recommended to you, I hope you will start thinking that it's all in the practitioner, and the system is just nothing
Wing Chun is just for fun, you cannot protect youself in a fight, unless you have a knife, axe, gun, bazooka, sword or a machete..
ping pong - Joking, huh?
Yeah - bazooka
A rubbish, crap, trash ping pong falling on the ground !
That story is such a lie!
Boxers can easily knock out Kung Fu masters, regardless of styles; e.g., Wing Chun, Tai Chi, or anything charactered as "Chinese". Here is why. These Kung Fu are traditional martial arts designed and developed for ancient battle fields with spears, swords, and shields, not for bare hand fighting. Since Manchu emperors of Qing Dynasty forbid average people to own and operate weapons, Kung Fu is then developed as an alternative way to exercise of the weapon-based martial arts without using weapons. As a comparison, modern martial arts are designed and developed purely for bare hands fighting. Kung Fu is not as useful as boxing in bare hands fighting, just like Jeep cannot perform as well on paved roads, regardless how beast it is like when off-roading.
I heard his fights were boreing and there was never a clear winner..he's the king of lame hands.