You are saying exactly yhe damr thing as my coach, Colleen Cosgrove who taught @ PPRINCDTIN RAQUET CLUB, PRINCETON, NJ. she called it the "BALLSIDE SYSTEM. Thank you Meike!!
Doubles is a team sport like basketball. The objective to isolate one opponent and double team them by hitting a shot that will allow your partner to cut off and intercept the return and hit a placement to win the point. As an old high school tennis coach I have watched a lot of doubles players playing singles with two players on each side of the net. Also like other team sports you have to slide towards the side with the ball to cover your zone. Each partner should be constantly adjusting to ball locations during the point. Often one partner will stand in a fixed position and just keep turning their head from baseline to baseline watching their partner and opponent have a singles rally. Doubles is difficult because it requires a great variety of tennis skills to implement effective tactics. This requires practice and lots of drills. In every sport that I have played we practiced what to do in common situations. Doubles players need to practice situational tennis as well as skill development. Just some observations from an old coach and doubles player.
This was a really comprehensive overview about common doubles mistakes that I'm guilty of doing. I'll definitely try to stand back at net a little bit more while my partner is serving. Thanks for the great video!
I never learned this when I was a junior and now at 43 I watched this video and got all these tips and I completely can dominate the net. This is such a good instruction for anyone who wants to really understand how to play doubles. And when you know this stuff, the other team doesn’t have any idea how you’re able to do it, they just think you’re a net monster. This is great stuff.
This video deserves more views and more likes! If you want to play doubles better, come back time to time and re-evaluate yourself to see how much you have followed her points.
Whoa! I just learned a tonne about doubles. The camera angles while explaining were so helpful. This is high-level instruction from a high-level player with great tennis IQ. Wow, this was amazing. Thanks!
I’m just a 3.5 maybe on the cusp of 4.0. I’ve been more and more of a fan of starting a step back so I can get that forward momentum at net (even on returns). I find it also helps with my split step because I force myself to take that step and split right before opponent hits the ball. Instead of starting flat footed.
well, 3/4 position on the box might look nice. in fact most of the volleys contact points will be below the net line, which mean that each volley would have clear the net first. which means each is going low to high, not high to low
awesome video! I usually play singles and am just starting to get into double and been feeling a little lost, especially at the net. this is exactly what I needed. Very clear, easy to implement technical pointers. Going to level up my doubles game!
Thank you for being so clear. I am so amazed that the average doubles player does not see such a basic issue. A lot of points are lost because of wrong positions
Hallo, als ein ganz alter Fan von Dir (noch aus der aktiven Zeit...;-)) kann ich nur sagen: ALLERHÖCHSTEN RESPEKT. Die "essentials" für den klassischen "Club Level Player" toll runtergebrochen, mit einem Augenzwinkern erklärt (kultig: "They are world class"...;-)) und super Kameraführung. Richtig, richtig gut. Authentisch und praktiker-mäßig ohne diese häufig bei anderen zu sehende "Überheblichkeit" und das "Sendungsbewußtsein". Eher so ein "On court with Meike for some real hitting!". Geil. Weiter so.
Very nice to teach to us mere mortals too many videos give advice for greatly advanced players not those of us at the club level,well done and explaiapned.
Seems to be basic introductory information but winning involves using the brain and making adjustments. For example, fully agree that server's partner should not normally hug alley, but how close partner starts out to the net should depend on quality of server's serving and how good returner is. If partner's serve is a lolly-pop second serve and you are too far from net but still in box then you may get topspin returns at your feet and may then even want to play way back. Have to be flexible and adjust to your partner's serve and also read opponents. Or, to the other extreme, if you have the reflexes with a good serving partner, you can be tight to net like pros. Sometimes Australian is a good call and mixing it up may throw off opponents. Don't be rigid.
I actually disagree about standing that far back when partner is serving, unless you're very quick you're gonna be hitting alot of low volleys and the court actually looks bigger when you that far back A few steps forward is about right to me
Also I think it depends on the opponents. I think if you are getting passed down the middle a lot or lobbed a lot when your opponent is receiving , you should play back 2/3 and on service line if you are getting lobbed. If you are too far back 2/3 of the way seems like a lot -- you can get passed down the line on both returning and receiving
@@MeikeBabelTennis I have saved it as a favourite and will revisit it once a week until all of these tips become my learned behaviour!! Not saying I do all 10 poorly, but some great tips on how to improve!!
I am about 4.0 in age of middle 40s, I took less unnecessary lobs and loose down the speed of first serve a bit, it help saving energy and win more games. This is a very helpful especailly when I face weaker opponents I can clearly observate their position to made pool timing judgement. I think this is one of the best videos of double tennis I will deliver to my player partners. Many Thanks coach !
Good and important points for doubles. Regarding front to back positioning of the doubles team, I think the staggered formation makes a lot of sense. When both players are at net, the player on the same side of the ball is around 4-6 feet closer to the net than the player cross court from the ball. This gives much better protection against the lob and makes it harder to pass the team through the middle. This is described in the wonderful doubles book, The Art of Doubles, by Pat Blaskower.
Thank you very much for these basic strategical insights and explanations. They will not only help me to make better adjustments on my own doubles play, but also help to analyse weaknesses of my opponents. I enjoy that theoretical content and prefer it a lot over pure technical issues in my current state of development. Thank you for you effort, Meike!
With poaching what if your opponent is pulled out wide and off balance stretching for the ball on a good shot from your partner. Should you stay and cover the line or poach? You said to not try to go down the line if you have a good net player and your in trouble at the baseline on the run, so wouldn't that be a good time to poach?
Terrific video! I've been actively studying how to play doubles for several years and this summarizes pretty much everything I've learned. My one question would be if you're playing on the duece side and the ball is hit between the partners, who should take the ball. I was always taught to let the forehand player take the middle shot when both players are up. I took a lesson from a pro but he wanted me to take the middle of the court shots on my backhand. I've never felt comfortable with doing that and when playing, still let the forehand player take the ball. I asked another coach about that and he said that if you're the stronger player, yes, use your backhand on the shot. I play recreational tennis these days at 74 and tend to not try and dominate having started playing at 15 and generally play better than most at my age. Should I go ahead and take the middle shots with my backhand or allow my partner to use his forehand even if they are not as good as I am?
I saw again your video and I noted that the partner of the guy serving is standing too far back in your system. The thing is that from this position is very difficult to poach when the ball comes cross. I need two more steps to get this ball. Most coaches will indeed say that you have to stay in the middle of the box. Yes, you are inviting the opponent to try to lob, but this is not easy if the serve is good. If my partner has a weak service, I can even decide to go to the baseline instead of standing at the net, going to the net at the first best opportunity. There is another problem. If I stand too far back the opponent can play a short topspin, forcing me to play a difficult low volley, and I am already on a lot of pressure. Thanks for the video!
Great instruction (as usual). Question: I am a 4.0 who plays doubles exclusively. When I am returning serve, I sometimes get confused on ball place meant when both opponents are at , or are rushing, the net, and I am returning from the baseline.what are my options in this scenario. Thank you!
Thank you for this video! Very helpful. I am assuming this advice equally applies to juniors (U12, U14) as well. My son tends to stay back at the baseline and as a result suffered against better net players. Do you have drills to get comfortable with transitioning to net and poaching? Thanks
At our level, 3.5, 4, if i stay 3 quarters from the net i get a lot of difficult balls coming fast under the net as they have little clearance from the net.
As the returner's partner, I am still trying to master the rapid focus switching of line judge, quick glance at partner's shot, goalkeeper, net monster dance. After the ball has passed the net person, you appear to plant closer to the net. Why not the same 3/4ths position as the server's partner?
Great question! Once the ball goes by my opposite net player, I'm coming in a bit closer because I feel I have more time to read my opposite baseline player and can be a lot more aggressive. I did play closer up on my partner's serve when I played but for rec players I recommend the deeper position for mentioned reasons. At lower levels (I like to say levels of newer players :-), often times the serve is not quite as much of a weapon to set the net player up as it obviously is for higher players. The 3/4th position allows me to move up into a split step without then being too close to net as I would be if I started halfway and then move up. Does that make sense?
I was with ya for a minute - however I have to translate all of this to lefty! LOL! Great tips though...my partners keep telling me to move so I won't get hit when I'm standing in middle of service box!
I am rated 5.0 by USTA currently transitioning from single to double and most of my matches is against 4 to 5 rating players, I found difficultly to beat against the 5.0 unless I am very aggressive at the net. I think your tips will help for next match. Thanks
The problem with these (yours and from other coaches) videos is the variety of "consumers" . We can be new players, new double players, intermediate players, old players and so on. Some strategic tips can be good for one segment but not for others. I am 69 yo but still moving well and with good reflexes. I begun to play five years and half ago, playing doubles ocasionally and my experience says one different thing about net positioning. I play +65 and the average opponents have not the skills you assume, mainly lobs and volleys. As some coaches say, tennis (and other sports) is a game of percentages. The most of times I am one meter from the net and I make much more winners here than two or three meters behind. It is quite easy to understand why. As I am so close to the net I am able to put the balls at right and left with angles impossible to counteract (I am not a skilled player). Every meter behind, the volley is more difficult and the angle is bigger, so more possibilities the opponent to respond. As you say at the video, the opponents can make a lob over a guy so close the net but almost 90%, at my country and at this age segment, make balloons which is a quite different thing from a lob and in this case It it quite easy to my partner to get there and return these slow balls. I am giving my experience but I sinceresly believe that this will work with the most of players of my age. The most of other mistakes you mention make sense to me. Thks
Great stuff. Welcome to YT. Do you think some of the advice may vary by skill level. Most rec players belly up to the net because they are expecting to swat down easy ball with a frying pan grip. Poaching from the 3/4 position takes some advance anticipation and reaction times.
Yes, you are absolutely right that a lot of newer players stay close so they get the easy put away. Actually just saw that yesterday again :-) But they're getting beaten more often with easy lobs than they win points so I'd like to think that by moving back they won't limit themselves as much. And hopefully be motivated to go out and work on those things! And with your input you just gave my an idea for another video :-) I need to show the movement better. Thank you Jawad!
You mentioned all the points that I am trying to improve in my team. By the way, I am 59 and I went through all kind of concepts in tennis concerning forehand, beginning in 1979 with something close to a continental grip. Your video on the topic (Alcaraz) is great! I never had a powerful forehand. Since I began to adopt a kind of next gen forehand I experienced an incredible increase in speed and spin. Perhaps it is less the result of the new technique, but more the attitude to really put everything into the forehand. The Swiss player Marc Rosset used this kind of forehand to win gold in single in the Olympics 1992.
@@MeikeBabelTennis How long you have been doing the training videos? I've been playing 8 years and your instruction is superior, and have viewed over 1000 Training videos, What state are you in? Southwest Florida Regards Jess
On the pro tour the net player in the servers side takes one huge step to get very very close to the net once the server serves a good serve. That's how they create ridiculous angles at net. Jack sock is famous for it. But of course they move back warda quickly I they don't poach the ball
Yes, the pros are doing all kinds of things that rec players just can't do. I can't do a ton of the things anymore I used to be able so you have to adjust.
Good lesson Mieke just have to say one thing , we are not just mere mortals maybe we weren’t lucky enough to have a rich parent or a parent coach when we were young . Thanks for your help though I really like your way of coaching also your backhand is wonderful 😊
@@MeikeBabelTennis Dn't you worry going to work my way through your videos. I play a mix. Play for the bottom mens team in my club and we were talking about how we need to improve our doubles, video has been shared around group.
Great tips, unfortunately where I play social doubles, it doesn't matter where my partner stands because the minute I serve or return the ball, he or she is going to start back pedalling up to at least three feet behind the baseline. And I am a serve and volley player by instinct LOL
11. Volleyer looking back to, perhaps psychically, aid their partners groundstroke or approach. Usually not psychic enough to predict that ball in the face though. Focus on the movements of the nearest threat opponent, their reactions will tell more about the quality of a partner's stroke.
Thank you for making such a great video Coach. I have seen club players almost get their heads taken off because they are way too close to the net. Great job Coach on saving lives 😊
Mistake #1: opponent standing as adviced here will get all the return balls on his feet, second his volley return will be very difficult because of low hitspot and a net that is relatively far away, third problem is if the serve is not very big the returner can easy pass the net player at the tramline.
Great tips for club players but I also do would add that top doubles guru Louis Cayer has many other ways of avoiding doubles strategic mistakes? He encourages Jamie Murray to be right on top of the net when being servers partner. There’s also so many other strategies to adopt when you’re at the net you can be reactive, anticipate or have planned volleys. Great video and opens up interest and discussion!
Who takes the Middle (detailed version): ruclips.net/video/r-B6hsNg8Ps/видео.html
You are saying exactly yhe damr thing as my coach, Colleen Cosgrove who taught @ PPRINCDTIN RAQUET CLUB, PRINCETON, NJ. she called it the "BALLSIDE SYSTEM. Thank you Meike!!
Doubles is a team sport like basketball. The objective to isolate one opponent and double team them by hitting a shot that will allow your partner to cut off and intercept the return and hit a placement to win the point. As an old high school tennis coach I have watched a lot of doubles players playing singles with two players on each side of the net. Also like other team sports you have to slide towards the side with the ball to cover your zone. Each partner should be constantly adjusting to ball locations during the point. Often one partner will stand in a fixed position and just keep turning their head from baseline to baseline watching their partner and opponent have a singles rally. Doubles is difficult because it requires a great variety of tennis skills to implement effective tactics. This requires practice and lots of drills. In every sport that I have played we practiced what to do in common situations. Doubles players need to practice situational tennis as well as skill development. Just some observations from an old coach and doubles player.
This was a really comprehensive overview about common doubles mistakes that I'm guilty of doing. I'll definitely try to stand back at net a little bit more while my partner is serving. Thanks for the great video!
Awesome! Glad you found it helpful!
I never learned this when I was a junior and now at 43 I watched this video and got all these tips and I completely can dominate the net. This is such a good instruction for anyone who wants to really understand how to play doubles. And when you know this stuff, the other team doesn’t have any idea how you’re able to do it, they just think you’re a net monster. This is great stuff.
That is such great feedback! That's exactly why I make my videos.
This video deserves more views and more likes! If you want to play doubles better, come back time to time and re-evaluate yourself to see how much you have followed her points.
Thank you for your kind words!
Whoa! I just learned a tonne about doubles. The camera angles while explaining were so helpful. This is high-level instruction from a high-level player with great tennis IQ. Wow, this was amazing. Thanks!
Thank you so much for your kind words!
I always watch this video before a doubles match. Playing in one hour. Thank you
Great to hear!
I’m just a 3.5 maybe on the cusp of 4.0. I’ve been more and more of a fan of starting a step back so I can get that forward momentum at net (even on returns). I find it also helps with my split step because I force myself to take that step and split right before opponent hits the ball. Instead of starting flat footed.
That is exactly what the deeper position is meant to do. I should have made that clearer but you absolutely nailed it!
well, 3/4 position on the box might look nice. in fact most of the volleys contact points will be below the net line, which mean that each volley would have clear the net first. which means each is going low to high, not high to low
1st mistake is my partner 🤣🤣
Hugging the net and not helping me defend 😢
awesome video! I usually play singles and am just starting to get into double and been feeling a little lost, especially at the net. this is exactly what I needed. Very clear, easy to implement technical pointers. Going to level up my doubles game!
Glad I could help!
Thank you for being so clear. I am so amazed that the average doubles player does not see such a basic issue. A lot of points are lost because of wrong positions
You're right. Even at the highest level you see wrong positioning.
Hallo, als ein ganz alter Fan von Dir (noch aus der aktiven Zeit...;-)) kann ich nur sagen: ALLERHÖCHSTEN RESPEKT. Die "essentials" für den klassischen "Club Level Player" toll runtergebrochen, mit einem Augenzwinkern erklärt (kultig: "They are world class"...;-)) und super Kameraführung. Richtig, richtig gut. Authentisch und praktiker-mäßig ohne diese häufig bei anderen zu sehende "Überheblichkeit" und das "Sendungsbewußtsein". Eher so ein "On court with Meike for some real hitting!". Geil. Weiter so.
Dankeschön!!! Genau darauf bin ich aus. Dass jedermann und -Frau den Inhalt benutzen kann.
Great doubles tips! Ha ha ... "a lot of players poach on anything that's yellow and is flying".
You've seen them :-)
I kinda feel guilty lobbing people when they are close to the net but YOU’RE RIGHT! They INVITED me to lob them. Thanks for the absolution.
Death by lobbing (if done right :-)
Very nice to teach to us mere mortals too many videos give advice for greatly advanced players not those of us at the club level,well done and explaiapned.
I started making videos for the clients I teach (mostly between 3.0-4.5) for exactly that reason: not enough for the club players out there.
Seems to be basic introductory information but winning involves using the brain and making adjustments. For example, fully agree that server's partner should not normally hug alley, but how close partner starts out to the net should depend on quality of server's serving and how good returner is. If partner's serve is a lolly-pop second serve and you are too far from net but still in box then you may get topspin returns at your feet and may then even want to play way back. Have to be flexible and adjust to your partner's serve and also read opponents. Or, to the other extreme, if you have the reflexes with a good serving partner, you can be tight to net like pros. Sometimes Australian is a good call and mixing it up may throw off opponents. Don't be rigid.
I do poach everything that is yellow and flying, and end up at the net 🤣
Maybe I saw you playing before I made this video :-)))))
I actually disagree about standing that far back when partner is serving, unless you're very quick you're gonna be hitting alot of low volleys and the court actually looks bigger when you that far back
A few steps forward is about right to me
Also I think it depends on the opponents. I think if you are getting passed down the middle a lot or lobbed a lot when your opponent is receiving , you should play back 2/3 and on service line if you are getting lobbed. If you are too far back 2/3 of the way seems like a lot -- you can get passed down the line on both returning and receiving
@@micheleriedel6463 agree 100%
A really great and useful video, a lot of common sense ideas and tips here, thank you for pulling this together and sharing, greatly apprecaited!
Thank you, glad you find it helpful!
@@MeikeBabelTennis I have saved it as a favourite and will revisit it once a week until all of these tips become my learned behaviour!! Not saying I do all 10 poorly, but some great tips on how to improve!!
Truly amazing stuff Infact Meike am falling in love with you.Fantastic stuff.😀
I am about 4.0 in age of middle 40s, I took less unnecessary lobs and loose down the speed of first serve a bit, it help saving energy and win more games. This is a very helpful especailly when I face weaker opponents I can clearly observate their position to made pool timing judgement. I think this is one of the best videos of double tennis I will deliver to my player partners. Many Thanks coach !
Thank you for sharing
Thanks! I feel really lucky to have found this video.
That video taught me more than I learned playing years at a club! I've subscribed, hope to see more of this content. Thanks so much
Thank you!
"pacman move" :D You are right of course
When I use that expression with kids some of them don’t know what Pac-Man was!
Good and important points for doubles. Regarding front to back positioning of the doubles team, I think the staggered formation makes a lot of sense. When both players are at net, the player on the same side of the ball is around 4-6 feet closer to the net than the player cross court from the ball. This gives much better protection against the lob and makes it harder to pass the team through the middle. This is described in the wonderful doubles book, The Art of Doubles, by Pat Blaskower.
Great book!
excellent tips here will watch later in full great content as always meike!
Thank you! Feel free to share with your friends :-)
Excellent stuff!
Super helpful coaching with a really good understanding of what doubles game is going on the court. Thank you 👍
Thank you! Feel free to recommend my channel to your tennis friends
Thanks for your teaching. I really need to improve my skills in the volleyball catch
Very useful tips, thx! BTW where is 'the center of the half'?
Can you give me the time stamp so I can answer your question?
Avoid these 10 most common mistakes in doubles.I'll show you how to fix them in this video!
when you standing at 3/4 you will get most retunrs at your feet
Love yours passion about tennis,Thank You!
Thank you for watching!
Thank you very much for these basic strategical insights and explanations.
They will not only help me to make better adjustments on my own doubles play, but also help to analyse weaknesses of my opponents. I enjoy that theoretical content and prefer it a lot over pure technical issues in my current state of development.
Thank you for you effort, Meike!
Great to hear! And yes, smart thinking to use it to analyze your opponents. I'll be doing more doubles content, too.
With poaching what if your opponent is pulled out wide and off balance stretching for the ball on a good shot from your partner. Should you stay and cover the line or poach? You said to not try to go down the line if you have a good net player and your in trouble at the baseline on the run, so wouldn't that be a good time to poach?
Yes, it can be a good time to move if you don't go too early and give it away. Too easy then to pull the ball down the line behind you
Terrific video! I've been actively studying how to play doubles for several years and this summarizes pretty much everything I've learned. My one question would be if you're playing on the duece side and the ball is hit between the partners, who should take the ball. I was always taught to let the forehand player take the middle shot when both players are up. I took a lesson from a pro but he wanted me to take the middle of the court shots on my backhand. I've never felt comfortable with doing that and when playing, still let the forehand player take the ball. I asked another coach about that and he said that if you're the stronger player, yes, use your backhand on the shot. I play recreational tennis these days at 74 and tend to not try and dominate having started playing at 15 and generally play better than most at my age. Should I go ahead and take the middle shots with my backhand or allow my partner to use his forehand even if they are not as good as I am?
Colleen Cosgrove @ the Princeton Raquet Club taught me what you are showing. She calls it the BALLSIDE SYSTEM
Lots of different names for smart playing :-)
I saw again your video and I noted that the partner of the guy serving is standing too far back in your system. The thing is that from this position is very difficult to poach when the ball comes cross. I need two more steps to get this ball. Most coaches will indeed say that you have to stay in the middle of the box.
Yes, you are inviting the opponent to try to lob, but this is not easy if the serve is good. If my partner has a weak service, I can even decide to go to the baseline instead of standing at the net, going to the net at the first best opportunity.
There is another problem. If I stand too far back the opponent can play a short topspin, forcing me to play a difficult low volley, and I am already on a lot of pressure.
Thanks for the video!
Great instruction (as usual). Question: I am a 4.0 who plays doubles exclusively. When I am returning serve, I sometimes get confused on ball place meant when both opponents are at , or are rushing, the net, and I am returning from the baseline.what are my options in this scenario. Thank you!
Sounds like the server is playing serve and volley. Either try to get the ball down to the server's feet or lob over the net man.
Thank you for this video! Very helpful. I am assuming this advice equally applies to juniors (U12, U14) as well. My son tends to stay back at the baseline and as a result suffered against better net players. Do you have drills to get comfortable with transitioning to net and poaching? Thanks
Make volleys a regular part of practice. Check out 12:30 Explanation for "Feed and attack" here ruclips.net/video/RxBqbS3pzyk/видео.html
At our level, 3.5, 4, if i stay 3 quarters from the net i get a lot of difficult balls coming fast under the net as they have little clearance from the net.
Thanks for all the tips, will try and put them into practice.
As the returner's partner, I am still trying to master the rapid focus switching of line judge, quick glance at partner's shot, goalkeeper, net monster dance. After the ball has passed the net person, you appear to plant closer to the net. Why not the same 3/4ths position as the server's partner?
Great question! Once the ball goes by my opposite net player, I'm coming in a bit closer because I feel I have more time to read my opposite baseline player and can be a lot more aggressive. I did play closer up on my partner's serve when I played but for rec players I recommend the deeper position for mentioned reasons. At lower levels (I like to say levels of newer players :-), often times the serve is not quite as much of a weapon to set the net player up as it obviously is for higher players. The 3/4th position allows me to move up into a split step without then being too close to net as I would be if I started halfway and then move up. Does that make sense?
I was with ya for a minute - however I have to translate all of this to lefty! LOL! Great tips though...my partners keep telling me to move so I won't get hit when I'm standing in middle of service box!
Yes, I know. You lefties always have the shorter straw. I will try to remember to give more info for lefties as well!
@@MeikeBabelTennis It's ok - still great content and tips! Thank you!
Great stuff.At 5:29 you don't come to poaching spot you advise on point 1. (You're way closer to the net) I'm confused.
Let's assume I was further back and moved forward. This was just for the video and not realistic match play.
There are still coaches teaching players to guard the alley, leaving the middle wide open. 😂
Came across this today.. Awesome! Thank you!
On the deuce side I like to stand closer to the middle line for serve so I can aim for the T to bring the return to my partner
Awesome coaching. I would pay money to hear more of this excellent coaching....super stuff.
I'm sure that at some point I have some specialty courses for purchase ;-)
The sound is horrible
Feel free to donate some money on my "Thanks" button for a better mic :-)
I am rated 5.0 by USTA currently transitioning from single to double and most of my matches is against 4 to 5 rating players, I found difficultly to beat against the 5.0 unless I am very aggressive at the net. I think your tips will help for next match. Thanks
Great, let me know how it went!
Really good info.
Glad it was helpful!
10 is too many to remember. Could you add a written summary?
I’ll send this to my doubles partner, I’m tired of covering his lobs.
Excellent!
What is the great introductory to doubles game, really like this video.
Thank you! More to come!
Loved it. Excited that I found your channel. Great instruction, you made it easy to learn. Thanks so much.
Awesome! I'm glad you're here! Feel free to recommend my channel to your tennis friends!
This is a GREAT video! Good explanations of the "why." Cheers!
Glad it was helpful!
Great video!
Thank you!
The problem with these (yours and from other coaches) videos is the variety of "consumers" . We can be new players, new double players, intermediate players, old players and so on. Some strategic tips can be good for one segment but not for others.
I am 69 yo but still moving well and with good reflexes. I begun to play five years and half ago, playing doubles ocasionally and my experience says one different thing about net positioning. I play +65 and the average opponents have not the skills you assume, mainly lobs and volleys. As some coaches say, tennis (and other sports) is a game of percentages.
The most of times I am one meter from the net and I make much more winners here than two or three meters behind. It is quite easy to understand why. As I am so close to the net I am able to put the balls at right and left with angles impossible to counteract (I am not a skilled player). Every meter behind, the volley is more difficult and the angle is bigger, so more possibilities the opponent to respond.
As you say at the video, the opponents can make a lob over a guy so close the net but almost 90%, at my country and at this age segment, make balloons which is a quite different thing from a lob and in this case It it quite easy to my partner to get there and return these slow balls.
I am giving my experience but I sinceresly believe that this will work with the most of players of my age. The most of other mistakes you mention make sense to me. Thks
You're right, not every single thing will apply to everyone. And then it's smart that you're throwing out what doesn't work for you.
I think most of pro players are really standing close to the net, because it is a much more aggressive position to be in.
Great advises for doubles playing! Thank you!!
Glad it was helpful!
Great stuff. Welcome to YT. Do you think some of the advice may vary by skill level. Most rec players belly up to the net because they are expecting to swat down easy ball with a frying pan grip. Poaching from the 3/4 position takes some advance anticipation and reaction times.
Yes, you are absolutely right that a lot of newer players stay close so they get the easy put away. Actually just saw that yesterday again :-) But they're getting beaten more often with easy lobs than they win points so I'd like to think that by moving back they won't limit themselves as much. And hopefully be motivated to go out and work on those things! And with your input you just gave my an idea for another video :-) I need to show the movement better. Thank you Jawad!
Yes, learning how volly the ball from no mans land, actually, look up volly training techniques. Looking at using the racket as a weapon,,
Really precise and logical explenations and coaching advice /
I appreciate that! Thank you for your support.
I do fear getting slapped in the head at the net by the server lol 😂
If that happens, do change your position (or partner :-)))
Wow this is a great lesson for me^^ Thank you for help
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What exactly does down the line mean?
You mentioned all the points that I am trying to improve in my team.
By the way, I am 59 and I went through all kind of concepts in tennis concerning forehand, beginning in 1979 with something close to a continental grip. Your video on the topic (Alcaraz) is great! I never had a powerful forehand. Since I began to adopt a kind of next gen forehand I experienced an incredible increase in speed and spin. Perhaps it is less the result of the new technique, but more the attitude to really put everything into the forehand. The Swiss player Marc Rosset used this kind of forehand to win gold in single in the Olympics 1992.
Yes, he was one of the "younger" ones back then. Great serve as well!
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How long you have been doing the training videos?
I've been playing 8 years and your instruction is superior, and have viewed over 1000
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Really terrific content, as usual! Thank you, Meike!
Thanks Kris!
Omg! Weekly Drill Clinics for 2 years and didn't grasp this. Thank You!
Come to denver for some of my doubles immersion camps I’m planning :)
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Love it. Great strategy & great tips. Thank you very much
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On the pro tour the net player in the servers side takes one huge step to get very very close to the net once the server serves a good serve. That's how they create ridiculous angles at net. Jack sock is famous for it. But of course they move back warda quickly I they don't poach the ball
Yes, the pros are doing all kinds of things that rec players just can't do. I can't do a ton of the things anymore I used to be able so you have to adjust.
Very good tips. Well done. Thanks.
Thanks
Great stuff- practical and comprehensible
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Excellent video. Thank you.
You are welcome!
Good lesson Mieke just have to say one thing , we are not just mere mortals maybe we weren’t lucky enough to have a rich parent or a parent coach when we were young .
Thanks for your help though I really like your way of coaching also your backhand is wonderful 😊
Brilliant tips, so well explained and filled in lots of gaps about my doubles knowledge, thank you.
Thank you! Did you check out my latest video: 10 most common mistakes in singles? Or do you just play doubles?
@@MeikeBabelTennis Dn't you worry going to work my way through your videos. I play a mix. Play for the bottom mens team in my club and we were talking about how we need to improve our doubles, video has been shared around group.
Great tips, unfortunately where I play social doubles, it doesn't matter where my partner stands because the minute I serve or return the ball, he or she is going to start back pedalling up to at least three feet behind the baseline. And I am a serve and volley player by instinct LOL
11. Volleyer looking back to, perhaps psychically, aid their partners groundstroke or approach. Usually not psychic enough to predict that ball in the face though. Focus on the movements of the nearest threat opponent, their reactions will tell more about the quality of a partner's stroke.
subbed. this is amazing!
One of the best I’ve seen. Thank you!!!
You are so welcome!
Thank you for making such a great video Coach. I have seen club players almost get their heads taken off because they are way too close to the net. Great job Coach on saving lives 😊
Mistake #1: opponent standing as adviced here will get all the return balls on his feet, second his volley return will be very difficult because of low hitspot and a net that is relatively far away, third problem is if the serve is not very big the returner can easy pass the net player at the tramline.
Very good advise for all doubles situations
Thank you! Feel free to share the video with your tennis partners :-)
I recommed doing the drills with four players instead of two
yes, that would make more sense, but I had a hard time finding one volunteer :-)
@@MeikeBabelTennis : congrats, excellent videos!!!
Awesome lesson!
Hands down the most concise and clearest illustration on proper movement inside the court especially as a netter. THANK YOU!
What a great video!
This is a top level doubles lesson (at least for us club players) that you’re just posting for free. Thanks and good luck with the channel!
Great video! Really educational!
Glad it was helpful! Feel free to recommend it to your tennis friends!
Thanks excellent 😊
Wow. This is so good. Thank you.
Glad you like it!
“Pac man move” LOL
did you mean returns have gotten so successful ??
Both serves and returns have gotten so much better since I played.
Excellent, excellent, excellent instruction, master Meike.Thanks.
Good tips😊
👍🏽👍🏾 Gracias
Great tips 👍
Thank you! I'm just getting started out and every click and nice comment (and subscribe :-) is great!
Thank you for a very helpful, easy to understand video.
Love you
One of the best tennis doubles content I’ve ever seen!
Great tips for club players but I also do would add that top doubles guru Louis Cayer has many other ways of avoiding doubles strategic mistakes?
He encourages Jamie Murray to be right on top of the net when being servers partner.
There’s also so many other strategies to adopt when you’re at the net you can be reactive, anticipate or have planned volleys.
Great video and opens up interest and discussion!
True, Jamie is on top of the net but he also has unreal reflexes and experience.
Got a doubles tournament coming up so I am sending this to my partner right now!! lol
Awesome! Let me know how it went!