Can this NEW Attack Helicopter Defeat China's Anti Air?
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- The Bell 360 Invictus is part of the US Army Aviation's Future Vertical Lift program. They've been trying to replace the OH-58 Kiowa helicopter for years. The Commanche RAH-66 failed to deliver in 2004 due to its 20mm autocannon being inaccurate and its engine not having enough power. But the lessons learned there are being applied to the 360 Invictus. Will its new fly by wire low maintenance be enough to make it the infantry's go to "over the shoulder" close air support system? Or will it go by the wayside as another failed 7 billion dollar defense program?
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What do you think of Army Aviation's NEW attack helicopter? Is it realistic to be forward deployed with infantry?
CORRECTION:
-fly by wire invented was in 1957
Thank to viewer 'Irradiated Monkey' for catching that!
Mate I hate to be that one person but please do your research on 3:33. The British Short SC.1 made its first flight on April 2nd 1957 and its fly-by-wire control system was an integral part of it. I have massive respect and please don't take it the wrong way, I'm just pointing it out to let you know. Keep it up👍
Are you shure it is 40 METER radious ?
@@CloneCaptainHowzer thanks for catching that , I mixed up the dates, I've added the correction to the pinned comment
Lmfao ,I am having that EXACT same issue as described ,in the south seas of China...In CoN:ww3.
I can't get helicopter support there because all the base are too far away and these don't land in the field...
@@leonardbajzelj5411 lol I definitely mis read the fact sheet and brain farted that one , its 4 m
I was a Marine platoon commander in Vietnam 1968-69. The NVA had some serious AA weapons that they dragged down from the North over muddy dirt roads and trails. It was impressive how tenacious they were. During the Tet Offensive, they even managed to bring down SAM's which caught the US by surprise and changed CAS tactics.
I learned many lessons that year. One of the more important is to never underestimate the enemy's ability to surprise you and hit you hard when you least expected (e.g., the Tet Offensive caught everyone off guard and the NVA/Viet Cong came damn close to achieving their objective.
Personally, I'd like to see more emphasis on making everything as stealth/difficult to detect. I read recently that Russia has developed an new material for their uniforms to dramatically reduces a person's IR signature. Our close in helicopters need a lot more stealth and built-in defenses against missiles, jamming, etc.
I can relate to your comment about trouble getting a resupply of AA batteries. In Vietnam, my platoon had one 1st generation starlight scope. It couldn't be used 80% of the time because their special batteries were rarely in the supply chain.
You'd laugh at some of the stone age technologies we had back then. One was the seismic intrusion device. It was a receiver (requiring batteries) and 6 sensors identified by 1, 2, or 3 and 4,5 and 6 dots on top. The idea was in an ambush, you put 3 sensors along both sides of a trail. Theoretically, as the enemy walked down the trail, they would set off the first sensor with one beep on the receiver. As they got closer, they'd set off the second sensor with gave 2 beeps in the receiver. And then they would set off the nearest sensor with 3 beeps. The problem was that the artillery were firing H&I all night setting off all the sensors at once plus critters coming down the trail would set them off as well.
I'm 75 now. I've been impressed with the high speed, low drag equipment the soldiers and Marines were using in the Middle East; including the Men in Black sunglasses. By comparison, in Vietnam we looked more like survivors from the Bataan death march with our mostly WW II and Korean War equipment. Our uniforms would literally rot off. Due to terrain, weather, and enemy; resupply was a roll of the dice and so one C-Ration had to last 2-3 days. Water was from wherever we could find it. Throw in 3-4 purification tables and ignore the smell and you were good to go. Some C-Rations were marked 1945 though most were made in the 1950's.
Anyway, I enjoy your commentary. Might be interesting to occasionally do a "then and now" comparison. It will make you feel a lot better about what you had and what is coming.
Love to hear what you experienced while being there. Respect to you sir
Thank you for your service!
The most ingenious weapon I saw in the museum was the pinwheel mine: hang on trees, lay on possible landing grounds, helo's downward wind would spin the pinwheel to detonate an upward charge.
I salute you sir. From the Netherlands 🌷, T.
this was such a good read thank you so much!
Video Idea: Talk about how the military evolved throughout the war in Afghanistan like how weapons were added and phased out like the mk12 and how body armor changed.
He did one video that might talk on some of your points: ruclips.net/video/3uZZPY6CoDw/видео.html
I made the same suggestion to him a few videos ago. I want to see how stuff evolved starting with the war on terror. I'd like to see when stuff went to trials then actually implemented etc. I believe he said he was worried people might not be as interested in the longer videos but I know I would be. And based on your likes you got a lot of others would like to see it as well.
Yeah how the entire military acquisition programs and doctrines ended up geared into COIN as the focus producing useless assets like MRAP that has no value against near peer or peer levels adversary and how the infantry cowed and cradled to be a mere Air assets tripwire instead of real ground fighting forces that fight their way out.
Love the mk12
The loss of the Kiowa foreshadowed the loss in Afganinistan due to expense. If the chopper can be deployed in a year or two great. If not it will become another Joint Strike Commanchee pork Contract.
"How realistic is it for soldiers to maintain this at forward operating bases?" I just took one peek at the engine and figured that the sales guy just meant reloading ammo and filling it with fuel when he said maintenance.
Nothing to be done with a turbine engine but check the oil. Anything major and they have to come of whatever air frame they are mounted on. They have been very reliable for decades now.
@@traviseggl3794 If you think a manned rotary wing aircraft can be maintained with the infantry and away from maintenance teams and equipment... then you know nothing about aviation. It's impossible to make any helicopter that reliable. I say this as an Army airframe aviator for over a decade.
Also it's not just about the turbine. There's airframe, hydraulics, power train, avionics, weapon systems and crew chief crap. They can't magically leap to not needing large maintenance crews and that salesman is full of shit and blowing smoke up our asses.
@@Thickcurves I am a commercial pilot. I also said anything major with the engine. Replacing a fuel control unit, or any subsystems in the engine compartment are not what I would consider major. I never said it didn't need a crew to maintain it. I guess I should know better than to make a simple blanket statement on the internet.
There's a difference between repairable and maintainable.
Imagine if you needed a specialist tool that the manufacturer only sells to certified mechanics just to replace your sparkplugs and you can only use sparkplugs made by said manufacturer and also after you've installed them the cars needs to be verified using computer software the manufacturer also only sells to it's certified shops.
That's how most military equipment is these days (it seems)
Probably won't be the case for this helicopter
The key here is to make the engine easy to swap out and transport. Ideally, you could transport the engine and the engine mechanic in one chopper like this.
Then they take the bad engine back to depot and fix it under more ideal conditions. You don't care at that point, because you already have the new engine in the chopper.
Make it so you can swap engines in under 4 hours and the soldiers will love you. A chopper flies in, lands next to the stranded one, the mechanic gets out, grabs the new engine, and installs it. Then they strap the old engine to the rescue chopper and fly away. I suppose you'd need some kind of stealth saddle bag for the engine.
The idea that this thing could launch drones and keep them on a leash with AI, and also possibly use data links to transmit targeting info to heavy hitters is pretty impressive. This thing is truly next gen.
I'm honestly surprised no military has taken this idea and run with it. Especially integrated with something like the Soviet-era Mi-24 Hind. A rotorcraft that has the potential to lift in a squad or two of infantry, idle on site to provide limited fire support, and also act as an integrated drone launcher and forward recon station ticks a lot of boxes. Drone technology these days is compact and relatively cheap, and the Soviets use of the Hind in Afghanistan showed that it was incredibly good at what it was initially designed to do - even despite being able to be countered by Stingers.
if it works
As a former Army Attack Helicopter pilot let me be the first to say the emperor has NO clothes. All these new “manned” platforms look really cool - I would LOVE to fly them……BUT it makes far more sense and is FAR more efficient to use UAVs to do this job going forward. Without a man in the system the aircraft can be made lighter and far more disposable. UAVs can remain on station for DAYS instead of hours. Lose a UAV……… “ oh well” - lose a manned aircraft much worse. An aircraft without a human inside can out G anything with a human in it - think about it.
Unless you can field UAVs with the capabilities to scan 250 degrees = like you can with a platform like the OH-58 or the OH-6, you aren't going to get the same capabilities to acquire and ID enemies that you have with manned aircraft.
@@waynemorgan8727
They have 360 degree scan capability - had it for awhile, just look at that Google earth street view camera.
@@savagecub But they only have it one direction at a time, don't they?
I think the concept here is for it to be interchangeable. Consider the evac of a high profile target or the need for human eyes in the sky. Or maybe even a cyberattack which renders UAV links temporary useless. In war its always good to have options.
Absolutely, and a UAV can be superior in every respect and be a fraction of the cost at the same time. A pilot can be very expensive to train and lose besides.
Lowkey looks like an expansive and over powered vehicle that rock star games would add to GTA online.
It's like the akula
Don't give them more ideas for stealth helis.
Still will suck when compared to the Oppressor Mk2
Dont give them any fucking ideas.
@@Aljam10000 Akula is based on the Comanche prototype.
I won't believe this helicopter is real until it shows up in BF2042
ask you shall receive, the black hawk replacement part of Future Vertical Lift program is in BF2042 haha
@@Taskandpurpose Looking forward to your video on the Future Magical Hovercraft program soon
Or GTA V
That is not futuristically accurate don't expect it
I have a good news.......
So, my concerns began when you mentioned that it could be controlled remotely. How vulnerable is this to cyberattack or jamming? One thing that is guaranteed in any near-peer/peer conflict is a contested cyberspace.
Also, how easy are its signals to track and can the radio give away the position of troops? Is it vulnerable to an EMP type weapon or Heavy Rain? How much intel is logged if the enemy captures a downed one?
Soooooo many war generals ignore the importance of intel via cyber warfare acquisition these days.
It almost certainly won't be. Hollywood movies vastly over estimates the ease of hacking. The fact is if you use strong passwords and white-listing, you effectively can't be hacked. Jamming really isn't much of an issue either. Modern flight computers can pretty do everything except decide what to shoot at. It's also very possible that phased array radios will get much better at distinguishing jamming from the command signals based on baring and location.
The real danger is (as always) that the mission commanders get dumb and lazy. Instructing it to 'just come straight home if you get jammed' is something the helicopter could do, but it also tells a smart enemy exactly where 'home' is. Similarly instruction to 'just find and destroy the jammer' would inevitably lead to jammers being put on top of schools and hospitals.
in my mind, the real concern is not tracking (modern encryption is ridiculously good) but rather that if you can see where signals are going to and from, or at least just where they're coming from, is going to be the greater threat to soldiers. Cyber warfare will probably have much more to do with espionage, sabotage, and disrupting supply lines, than affecting specific individual battles.
Modern systems are unhackable, unjammable and untraceable.
The craft use satellite communications and the antennas are configured so that only signals from above are receivable. The directionality of a phased array is so strong that no radio on earth is strong enough to overwhelm the receivers.
Think of it like someone trying to blind you by shining a flashlight at the back of your head. That's what a jammer has to do in this case.
In the same way tracking the signal is like trying to see the location of a base by looking for a laser pointer in clean dust free air.
As anticarrrot said hacking is overblown by hollywood. A modern encryption cannot be brute forced it would take longer than the age of the universe.
Most intrusions nowadays come from two places.
People not being secure with information and secure workplace practices.
Adjacency attacks where an intruder is allowed onto the same network and then uses flaws in computer hardware design to gain remote access.
Both of these are non factors. The first because the keys to access the encrypted systems are not know by the operators. Instead they are stored on physical devices and those keys expire long before an operator could get one out, get access to the device and then use the key.
Even then no external sight will be allowed to connect because its not on the whitelist. Unrecognized computers are simply not allowed in.
There are other measures to protect the white list ect ect.
Yes hacking is a threat that should be taken seriously and these measures along with others I haven't mentioned are the response that ensures it just can't be done without any attempt being recognized before it becomes a problem.
The thing I remember most about the Commanche program was watching the documentary on it and an engineer came out with a small canvas bag full of tools (11 I think) and said that this was all that was need to do every mechanical task on the bird. To this day I am pissed as hell knowing designers can make things to be repaired by hand tools and choose not too, as well as making each generation more complicated requiring more tools.
Yes, just look at what John Deere has done to the farmers. Can you imagine waiting on a factory rep to come out and repair your combine while the crops are just waiting to get hailed on?
but as to your point, yes, it can be done. Things don't have to be more difficult.
No need to be pissed. That engineer was full of shit.
you don't like change do you?
@@mmoarchives2542 He's saying that with all the advancements in materials science and manufacturing; it should actually be _easier than ever to repair things_
We now have the capability to reduce jet engines down to a couple dozen parts, let alone tractors. It's that they're doing it intentionally to make more money.
My Father-in-Law flew the LOACH in Vietnam. He loved that airframe and didn't care for the OH-58 Kiowa (unarmed version) and the Huey that he flew until his retirement in 92. He probably would have loved this aircraft.
The OH-58A had the same engine as the OH-6A, but wasn't as quick or agile. I suspect it was because of the difference in the rotor systems. Also, the OH-58 was engine-temperature-limited, while the OH-6A was transmission-torque-limited.
I think Sikorsky's Raider X still has the edge to win. It's rotor system is better suited to high speeds, operating in narrow spaces, and providing lifts in high altitudes and high temperatures.
Is that the one with the tail rotor that pushes? That seems like a better and probably faster system than a side mounted rotor.
@Marc Michaud Raider X is Recon replacement, Defiant is Blackhawk replacement.
Bell with Invictus is betting on developing the least expensive alternative that meets all requirements. On the other hand Sikorsky's Raider X exceeds some requirements and likely will be more expensive. Bell figures that under a restrictive budget environment, a less expensive option is more likely to be selected and less likely to be canceled.
The strength that this has over the coaxial system is that it's cheaper to build and maintain which means more could be put into service. This is also looks to be more capable in the offensive role. So a scout attack/support (really more of a support than attack) aircraft.
The raider and defiant (with its second variant) and their competition each have their strong suits. The raider seems like a better replacement to the kiowa, but it doesn't fill in the niche of a light and affordable gunship as well as the invictus does and I would say that's quite important. I say that because not only would it be more capable of supporting but also be more lenient on what missions it could go on which means it could be called on more. To back up this claim just look at what the Marine Corps uses, a modernized cobra, which is a light gunship (it just doesn't have any stealth tech).
The defiant and valor have something going too. The valor is faster and has longer range but the Defiant has the ability to do heavier roles of what it plans to replace and introduce something the U.S has never really had. 1 being a heavy gunship (like the KA-52). 2 a heavy transport helicopter with offensive capabilities (the well known hind).
I'm saying, use them all. The competition (Russia and China) will and do see the benefits of using dedicated aircraft, and a world superpower can and should use them. Multi role is better suited for secondary powers.
@@midgetman4206 the whole Joint Strike Fighter program (F-35 Lightning II) was to create a multi-role system (which ultimately they had to make 3 different versions of for their intended roles). But if you look back at most major programs in recent decades, the DOD wants a jack of all trades, and not a dedicated, single role platform. So, the multi-role capabilities of this helo is probably exactly what the DOD is looking for (without looking at the specific requirements), rather than a dedicated helo for scouting, another one for close air support, and another one to act as a gun-ship…
I guarantee it's not going to be nearly as low maintenance as they think and it probably won't be "FOB operable" until at LEAST 10 years after it initially enters service
The M530F is a proven and low maintenance system. I'd rather see that aircraft developed further.
I disagree you won't "know" until it gets into the LRIP - 2 phase. LRIP 3 will be where the rubber meets the road.
@@theimmortal4718 Same here bro! I think Cayuse helo it's better for recon, it's small and can move fast between buildings and has some weapons to fire.
Bell actually has a very good track record with low maintenance, high reliability helicopters. Look at the UH-1 series and the Cobra and its decedents.
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Yes. And it's rotors are very quiet. You can't hear them until they're practically right on you.
The thing about the drones is that they wouldn't necessarily have to be controlled by the helicopter pilots and could be remotely controlled different pilots almost anywhere in the world.
Would they have the same situational awareness as the pilots that are physically present?
@@onlyplaysveigar7241 Better because they will be controlled by a computer algorithm and which does not worry about it's own safety.
Well Transmission can be a problem.
With Helikopter its not as bad as with Jets but still to consider
@sgfhk321 lol troll
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The Comanche was ahead of it's time just like the Cheyenne was. I feel both could've been huge assets to the Allied forces on the ground or behind enemy lines.
The Cheyenne was killed by the Chair Force...
As I understand it, the problem was twofold: 1. The Army kept adding new requirements and 2. the technology of the time wasn't up to the tasks required. Sure was a pretty bird, though.
Quick question. Civilian here. What was wrong with the Comanche?
@@pbinnj3250 It was expensive, high maintenance for man hours/cost, had significant programming errors and tech/weapon issues that would take years to fix, and was basically aiming to fill the boots of the Apache which the air force didn't think it needs. But it was one hell of a prototype. If the issues were ironed out, it would still be insanely expensive to build/maintain but the capabilities and lethality increase would be terrifying.
I think maintaining air superiority is probably the best method to win a near peer war. We need to keep that at any cost.
Everybody talking logistics and I'm just glad is doesn't look stupid.
Look up the Bell/McDonnell-Douglas LHX it is based on. Basically a Stealth Cobra if you boil it down.
Looking tacticool is the only thing that matters.
Butter Bars study logistics, Cool Guys study tactics 👌
No it can't replace Apache but it can supplement it when needed. It's a cheaper and modernised Comanche like how f35 is to f22. Better take sb1 defiant minimize it and make it the armed recon helicopter. That's what invictus competition is. Let's hope cappy makes a video on it.
@coolguyhentaisenpai that's why I like the raider-x better they have open architecture which means certain parts could be switched out easier once better technology is available
yes it looks like they want the apache and scout helicopter to work together like how the Bradley and the Abrams work together
It's designed for an different role like the F-35 are designed for a different role then the F-22!
@@Taskandpurpose FLRAA intended to replace Apache with attack variant
@@Taskandpurpose That's exactly what the OH-58D and AH-64 did, and before that the OH-6 and the AH-1. This is not a new concept by any stretch. Next time you do a video on Army aviation go to the aviators. Warrant Officers are not commissioned officers but are treated and saluted as such. They report to the officers in charge and if they are in a platoon they are under the platoon leader unless there is no 2LT, then they can become the platoon leader for logistics but they can't issue kill orders. I was a 68D10N2 which is now 16D(?) after the aviation MOSs were turned into combat arms MOSs. A lot of the stuff you talk about makes it clear that you have no idea that you're talking about when it comes to aircraft in general and Army Aviation in particular.
I was a Warrant Officer and I loved it. I was Intel, but people would assume I was whatever specialty according to where I happened to be. Airfield? Pilot. Hospital? Physician's Assistant.
Being out in the woods? Bigfoot
Mess hall? Culinary Technician.
@Drew Peacock
Bigfoots, Warrant Officers and Loch Ness Monsters are all rare and rarely seen.
@@hellacoorinna9995 Their all CIA.
I flew the OH-58, then UH-60. This is a much needed platform, certainly better than a DAP or an Apache sent to fly a recon sortie, especially if some day we face a legitimate air, MANPAD or SAM threat.
Retiring the OH-58 without a viable replacement is the typical political decision made by some apathetic generals looking to lick the sweat from some politico's butt hoping for a spot in the boardroom at Grumman, Lockheed or Boeing when they retire. My bird was old, certainly not perfect but good enough to improve situational awareness for the boots on the ground to not die. That's the idea, right? Keeping the boots on the ground alive?
What, if anything, does senior leadership care less about than boots on the ground if there is money to be made or political appointments to be had? Let's look at the modern toxic leadership at the O5+, E7+ rates and you tell me.
This sounds like the right tool. I hope they can deliver on their easy maintenance promise. It needs to be an asset a soldier can count on.
I like that the USA is always trying new stuff. Both successes and failures are valuable. This philosophy has kept our edge for nearly a century.
I like the idea of the ALE Drones repurposing essentially a missile and enabling it with recon capabilities as well seems incredibly useful provided you can get it done without overloading the crew.
The AF’s supposedly already testing their unmanned-wingmen idea with F-35s and modded (but still manned) F-16s. If that can work in a much higher risk (for ECM) battlefield, I’m sure commanding a built-to-be-expendable loitering-bomb for helos is a much easier ask.
I guess home base could take control of the drone, or even the soldiers on the gournd.
@@cjwrench07 The airforce should make the older attack and bombing aircraft drones, so we can send them on what would be suicide missions to attack critical infrascutures.
@@oldleatherhandsfriends4053 our old/retired aircraft are too expensive, too hard on fuel, and too valuable a sales/parts source to Kamikaze.
A single new “Loyal Wingman” fighter costs ~$2mil each to buy. That’s exponentially cheaper than refitting an old A-10/F-15/A-6/F-15/F-18 to be essentially a heavy cruise missile, and/or do the same wingman mission.
Apache does have fly by wire FYI, it flys by a push pull rod manual system but has a back up control system (BUCS) which is completely fly by wire. (I’m a Apache crew chief)
ah... i see a furry has entered the chat :P
yeah pretty much everything is fly by wire these days. It's not even worth mentioning
Who needs fly by wire when you can land on the moon by pulling cables!
@@brianmin1734
*Neil Armstrong moment*
Even the AH-1 had electronic stability, it used the same rotor system as the UH-1 but with the stabilizer bar removed and was controlled by a 3 axis rate gyro system where pilot controls were fed into the gyros and it made automatic corrections for uncommanded attitude changes such as wind, weapons firing etc. Jump to one minute for an explanation of this: ruclips.net/video/-5Hl9uuGeoI/видео.html This kind of thing is really really old on attack helicopters and is nothing special.
The Comanche wasn't a failure, it was simply too beautiful for this world.
agreed they should have just bit the bullet and went with it flaws and all.
I appreciate the Jabs at the Chief Warrant Officers. Hilarious
Damn Cyberpunk have become a reality with that helicopter design. Good thing I'm leaning towards Google as my corporate overlord.
The design dates back to the Comanche days, Bell literally rehashed their first entry.
@@FirstDagger And the design mockup on the show floor had a Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS as the controls. 10:18
Cappy: "I have concerns"
Bell Guy: "We're not your average infantrymen".
Me: "Can someone help me get the big bouncy booby mod for Skyrim working?"
Ask Henry from youtube channel Mxrplays
@@tylerwickwire1522 an unexpected circle of creators, but I am here too so who am I to judge lmao
I mean, that showroom mockup even has a Thustmaster Warthog HOTAS PC Joystick installed. I know, I have one :) 10:18
Being an auto-tech, all I can say is: redundant controls, and a redundant PCM will be necessary. The number 2 electrical issue we have is terminal/connector problems, and you do not want spread terminals causing you to lose CAS or the crew.
that is one of the few things the army air does every time they get a new toy they freak if they don't have the option to not use computers
Redundant systems are designed into nearly every aircraft. FHAA man dates those things.
Hey get those built! Killer system! Happy to have them with our men & women on the battlefield
Hey Chris. Love your clips. Your assessment of the 360 is a pretty one. As an old KW pilot and (Occifer) I can tell you we were mostly embedded with our ground units we supported. The KW had a small footprint and was fairly easy to maintain but lacked power as the Army kept strapping more stuff on it to meet survivability requirements and add ordinance. All should keep in mind that industry always over promises. No aircraft flies by itself and you are correct that pilots (even the best warrants) can become task overloaded quickly. Flying the aircraft with five radios going off in your ears, monitoring threat data, navigating, and actually engaging the enemy in contact is a lot for even the best two-man crews. Now they are going to also launch and control drones? Well that is very cool but I need to see it to believe it. I can't tell you how many times I went to support a unit we were not embedded with, especially "over the shoulder," and could not even get on the same frequency. Us old Cav guys would land and get out for a quick 5 minute coordination huddle which paid off in spades! Risk of fratricide is huge in close support. Computers cannot replace that! I too was blown away when I sat in the 360 at AUSA but we need to hold industry to standard before we blow billions of dollars that future "joe's" will have to employ over the next 40 years. Close rotary wing support is an art that was lost after Vietnam and one of the best things brought back during Iraq and Afghanistan. Apache's are NOT suited to do the Cav mission period! As an officer I can tell you that leading aviation warrants was one of the most interesting leadership challenges I ever had :) , especially after serving in airborne tank and infantry units prior to my illustrious aviation career. Keep the clips coming brother!
They mentioned that it can be flown remotely so when using the drones they may have other pilots flying them.
I love how saying "future war with China or Russia" is getting so normalized these days.
@@ssww3 Planet as a whole would lose more likely, but yes; days of western hegemony are numbered.
Russia and china have been preparing for war with america for a long time , america could afford to ignore them because they were so pathetically weak
But the combination of having nukes with modern technological advances has changed the game lol.
@@ssww3 ; Wargames China held with Thailand show different things. Remember that free thinking isn't promoted in CHN and that their soldiers currently are ALL single sons of their family.
Russia has no interest in war with US these days, just China.
Yeah, Russia definitely wants war with the US - look how closely they put their country next to American bases in Europe!
The rotor radius would be 40 feet (12 m) not 40 meters. Which would be equivalent to the Chinese Z-10 and 8 feet shorter than the Apache.
thank you i was wondering how the fuck a 40 metre rotor was meant to fit down a city street
The new helo reminds me of Command and Conquer Generals Helicopter. Does that mean We gonna have Particle cannons soon along with ISIS have one man workers making scud launchers?
"Can i have some shoes?"
Lol I just started playing that game again and thought the same thing.
Either that, or you'll see obelisks zapping anyone talking behind the bald guy and engineers selling building for profit (don't ask me how. Ain't got tbe foggiest!)
OW! I will work
@@marc0523 we build for china!
It looks like Bell borrowed some of the basic design features of the Sikorsky S-67 black hawk (not to be confused with the H-60 black hawk) and created a stealth version. The S-67 prototype crashed on September 1st 1974 at the Farnborough Airshow and was subsequently cancelled.
And the controls in the show floor mockup was borrowed from Thrustmaster... that's the Warthog HOTAS PC Joystick. lol 10:18
That helicopter makes total sense. As a police officer our air support had to go in between buildings constantly.
Agree with the workload problem, it's also a diversity of defence/eggs in one basket problem though. If it was me, i'd stick the drones on a truck and have them catapulted vertically and controlled and loitered from the ground/truck. Sure, allow the drones to be targetted and controlled from the helicopter as needed (the helicopter's meant to be nearby anyway) and for the helicopter to form part of the mesh network but as a rule keep the chopper as a scout and defensive, rather than for attack and let people on the ground deal with the loitering/attack focus.
This way when the helicopter inevitably gets shot down, has maintenance issues, or for whatever reason is unavailable, the drones can still do their job.
Something else that I think should be considered is our basic kit for infantry. Multicam patterns will stand out on those islands or in the Siberian tundra, so we may need to come up with two or three new standard patterns for our combat uniforms.
Secondly, I think that we'll need to be prepared to utilize greater mobility. Lighter loadouts for each soldier would go a long way in either environment to ensure they don't get bogged down. Because I can guarantee that the soldiers we face on the other side will have comparable technology and capabilities as our own, this time. As you pointed out: "Near peer."
The Comanche was badass.
P.S. 400k subs equal an additional Killstreak for CAS. Sorry Cappy.
P.P.S. 1 Million subs will grant you access to "Fortunate Sons" blaring on the loudspeaker with your CAS.
After watching a similar type video a week or so back, these types of large scale drones aren't even necessary anymore. And a rather impressive little demonstration this fellow put on. The AI demonstrated the ability to act, overcome, and eliminate a chosen target , and not get tracked or shot down itself.
Even 12 years ago, our Apaches were extensively modified and crews were trained with far different tactics and doctrine than they had originally been designed for. Longbows armed with long range FAF missiles, ATAS, SCALPs, . They hover a couple feet off the ground, peek up over treetops or a ridge for a couple seconds, just long enough to launch after acquiring a target (enemy fixed-wing, bird, tank or SAM. They are difficult to pick up on ground or even fast mover air-based radar that way. Not ideal and not very mobile, but effective against the current threat spectrum until our 21's century combat helicopter is deployed.
I think if the Philippine Army have had this close air support, it could've been easier for them to wipe out ISIS during the Battle of Marawi in 2017.
Hopefully the Philippine Army will get this one in the future so they can be more equipped and prepared to handle another urban warfare.
By the time our military gets the budget to purchase enough of these to be effective, they would already be obsolete lol
The Philippine Military have Cobra's now.
9:28 this sounds like some bulls**t that salesman will say to make you buy their product. As a Southeast european I can tell you that this helicopter will be tangled in cables if tryes to fly between buildings.
It turned out that we are ahead of all major military players with our SAC systems (surface to air cable systems). :)
Aye mate, the cables ain't so tall
Make CLOSE AIR SUPPORT GREAT AGAIN!
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Yes yes it is
This dude has atleast 3 different channels
Apache role isn't CAS. Previously, it was commonly referred to as "CCA". Big difference- CAS: ground guy /JTAC owns the bullet, CCA: Pilot owns the bullet and gets called to the carpet for questionable engagements. Also, look into how the flight controls work in the Apache ref. fly by wire systems. Also, Warrant Officers definitely fall under a chain of command with companies and platoons (wrongly) modeled after conventional infantry structure with plt leaders, company commanders, 1SG's, PSG's, etc. Quite a few of us were prior senior enlisted combat arms and/or special operations soldiers that racked up quite a bit of experience prior to attending WOFT. Also, having scout/attack/assault/MED assets colocated with infantry/SOF COP's isn't new at all. Also, manned/unmanned teaming is not a new concept and UAS integration is part of all gunneries these days. Do you guys even have an aviation rep at T&P, or you just SWAG it for your posts?
9:20 Haha the LIE! Brings back memories. Oh, the traffic! I was born in Islip. Great videos as well. Keep'em coming.
Chris, you clean up pretty good. Seriously. What I know from my time in the service, whatever the manufacturer promises, cut that in half.
What happened to Sikorsky’s Raider X? I see plenty of channels covering the Bell offerings for FMR-Light and Medium, but seldom the competitors.
Im going to put together a longer video covering the Lockheed martin and Boeing competition. I also have to cover the Black Hawk replacement
@@Taskandpurpose Sweeeet! Cheers Chris n crew!
That partly depends on how open each manufacturer is to journalists. Bell is looking to get the internet to back them by being omnipresent there. I see official representations of it in videogames as inevitable. By contrast Sikorsky/Lockheed aren't trying as hard to garner good press, this could be for several reasons but it means Bell has an advantage. But money spent by Bell on in advertising is money NOT being spent on development. We'll have to wait and see which approach wins.
@@darthhodges only reason Cappy got an interview with Bell was because he went to AUSA. Bell didn't invite him specifically.
When are we getting drones that operate like mini tilit-rotor helicopter drones with a machine gun on it? Seriously. How effective would it be to have a drone the size of a motorcycle armed with a belt fed machine gun a ton of plastic ammo. Have that fly out and flank the opposition. It doesn't need missiles. Just a drone operator who assists ground guys by flying up quick and low profile and lighting up the enemy then flying out of there to rearm and recharge.
It be pretty cheap compared to a lot of these massive projects, and it would be plenty effective. Also wouldn't be as big a deal if it got shot down.
Wonder how stable it would fire, but, doesn't sound that bad of an idea I think...
Reminds me of the Gun Ciphers from mgs2.
@Drew Peacock You take your reasonably based position on the military industrial complex AND YOU GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE
it would have to be pretty big to sustain recoil and stay stable, making it expensive and easy to detect and taeget, drones with explosives don't need that
@@hphp31416 i'm sure there is a way around that problem though man
The UGLY callsigns were always awesome to have overhead. The AH64 is going to be hard to beat.
the Apache unit in our AO in Iraq had the callsign "Extreme Element" always made me think they were bunch of bros listening to chumbawumba on loop. I love it.
@@Taskandpurpose 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Taskandpurpose I now have that damned song stuck in my head. Thanks a bunch, Cappie!! 😂
I'm glad were getting this helicopter. It looks like a great aircraft.
I was on FOB Normandy in 2005 and we had 2 apaches, Attack Element. We had them all the time and they were a literal life saver.
I still think the Kiowa was killed way too early as a good scout heli. I hope this program yields a good one to fill it's empty shoes.
For example, China already has a light scout helicopter in the Z-19 to complement its main line attack chopper Z-10.
The 360 Ivictus may be a good scout/attack helicopter for the Marines. If it can be easily stored on an assault ship, and withstand being exposed to salt water, it could be a good replacement for the AH-1Z at some point.
Needs 2 engines. Ever seen a single engine Marine helo? :)
How could chopper defeat AA? There is always more AA on ground than ammo you have on choper
LOL. I love the "Identify as a Attack Helicopter" joke!
Actually it will have 1,25 engines- it's APU can be used as supplementary engine when needed for faster speed. Main engine is 2200kW and APU 450 kW which thru clutch can deliver extra power.
Lmao classic american tactic, ""AHH 4 TALIBANS ARE SHOOTING FROM THAT HILL, CALL AIR SUPPORT!!!""
I saw a shadow out of the corner of my eye!?!? AIR SUPPORT WHERE ARE YOU??
You'd be surprised ho heavily the us millitary actually relies on air support,it is effective though
Well the Apache is an excellent helicopter. There IS a time where it needs to be swapped out with a new generation aircraft. I do like the concept of this one. And designing it around street level flying, actually including that aspect into it's design is some very good forward thinking. I wouldn't say that this would entirely replace the Apache as we know it. But it certainly will fill every role and more until the older tech and machinery of the Apache just cannot be repaired, replaced, or the cost of such things being justified. Yeah, new machines can be produced from the factory. But eventually it would be more akin to entering a Muscle Car into a Sports Car street-track race.. I can see this new model having it's growing pains though and is some decades away from it's 'fully evolved' form factor. I vote "Yay" on it being the runner up model to fully fit the footprints. The Apache will still be used as a heavy hitter 'flying tank' alongside this for a decade or more to come yet. With new advancements in tech, come new problems to solve. Leading to new advancements and so on. It is a never ending loop. And this loop is driven by innovation. Drive it harder and we get more. We work hard so we can play hard.
It's not ment to replace the apache, it's replacing a lighter scout helicopter that's been phased iut
It’s Replacing the older Apache D models. Not the new E models.
Kiowa crew chief here, loved to fly with Vietnam pilots, they taught me how to fly and stay alive. Miss flying to this day and question the maintenance on this new one. Wanted to be a pilot but worn glasses at that time and been retired for over 22 years now and think it is a little too late to be a pilot.
Private licence and a club?
Cappy Man . . . you MADE the argument for reviving the Amphibious Aircraft for Pacific operations. Can't even get DoD to think about it.
A Scorpion Attack Gunship from Avatar would suit me well. Not sure of its real-world plausibility but, still nice :)
Cappy, I know it’s several years old at this point, but could you do a video on the A-29 Super Tucano, it’s capabilities and it’s role (where it fits in between A-10 Warthog & an attack helicopter, such as the Apache or this 360 Invictus)
It doesn't. It is a COIN / Light Strike aircraft and below the AH-64 in terms of firepower and capability.
A 29 is too much overrated. I don't even know why.
I look at that and think "Mortar magnet."
Sure you can fit with as many LRUs and make maintenance as simple as you like - but how well will it fair to near misses from a few Type 87s? Or more futuristic, a small UAV able to carry a grenade right up to the cockpit.
Not saying it's a bad aircraft, but just not sure the organic embedded idea will stand up to a determined and resourceful enemy.
infantry also suffer quite a bit from near-misses from mortars where they're sleeping. Or a guided UAV warhead like this very helicopter will be carrying and deploying. "Close to the battlefield" is relative, it just means much closer than other aircraft, not actually in the thick of it.
@@jasonisbored6679 True... But infantry aren't usually considered high value targets. This might be. And might be harder to protect.
why do tou thimk ot would be so easy to hit it with mortars? also, the problem with a "small uav able to carry a grenade..." is a problem that exists for other helicopters too. why are you singling out this one?
@@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447 Read the last paragraph again. Your question is based upon a complete reversal of what I said.
The greatest innovation that helped the Japanese in slogging it out in the pacific was their night fighting tactics. They were able to get in right up on our big warships and let loose with accurate fire while blinding us with search lights and flares. Having the ability to not only choose when you fight but how close you do it is an immense tactical bonus that every grunt, aviator, and sailor understands. Stealth is the new night fighting, and its great the Army is integrating it into their newest over-the-shoulder helicopters.
What’s funny is they invested a ton of money into like the largest warship ever built that is still revered in japan, and in action it totally sucked and did nothing. It was slow, slightly weaker armor in some parts, and basically meant you only had to hit one ship instead of multiple faster ships. America had built a larger ship the Dakota or something but not like stupid large and unwieldy. And most critical of all is it had like no air defense capability which should have been a very basic consideration. It mostly sucked up their budget, sat around, did a small amount of damage and withstood one shorter battle, then was crippled and finally sunk by aircraft while not doing much in return. Everyone is like all like the Japanese were very sly. It’s like they painted a giant red dot in the middle of their ships almost like a target for bombers. And they basically just got lucky at Pearl Harbor. America sunk a sub of theirs and detected them on radar when none of our planes were supposed to be coming in but due to one commander not seeing the obvious we didn’t take action. Even then they missed a few of our most critical ships that were gone then and they missed the very nearby oil fields. Right after that battle we figured out their next target and despite being way less experienced and way less equipped as America was not the world power or even close to it then we ended the battle having massively devastated their fleet. After that it was more back and forth but we still did better than they did overall, and on nearly every beach landing they took much higher causalities. The Zero was a good fighter but even there our fighters did pretty well in response.
Blows my mind how few people know the atrocities the Japanese committed, how horribly our soldiers were treated that they captured. The Imperial Japanese were at the very least as evil as the Nazis, and were very animalistic and savage in their treatment of their enemies. On the other hand German soldiers were blown away by how well the Americans treated them. Our pow camps were impossible to escape from as they were in like Nevada or somewhere where you couldn’t go anywhere even if you escaped, the distances are vast. We did send Japanese Americans to camps but they weren’t like beaten up it was basically a crappy summer camp, and honestly many of the Japanese Americans hadn’t been in America long, America was reeling from a massive attack, and it made sense people were panicking and didn’t know where the Japanese Americans loyalties were. Their entire families could be back in Japan still. Also after some families lost so much at Pearl Harbor it was nearly more safe for them to be taken away for a while. If there had been Americans in japan they’d be more likely executed. People set such insanely high standard for America and no standard at all for anyone else. And another thing is America even apologized for sending people to camps during the panic meanwhile Japan still denies many of it’s atrocities today.
Um Japan's greatest innovation was they started the war with Torpedoes that exploded when they hit the enemy ship.
Also they did not "blind" the US with search lights it was standard doctrine for any navy prior to the development of Radar to use search lights at night. US failures in the Solomans in 1942 come down to 3 reasons:
Japanese Torpedoes worked and were faster and longer range than US Torpedos
US failed to understand the limitations of RADAR when close to islands (shore produced enough clutter to drastically reduce its effectiveness)
Japanese had stressed Night Fighting tactics to as part of its primary military doctrine to try to inflict losses prior to the "decisive battle" that would be fought in daylight.
However "stealth" had little to do with Japanese sucess- the US new they were coming im most cases (except SAVO Island and that was a command failure since search planes had spotted the Japanese approaching.
This sounds like a bit of bullshit. The USA was using radar on their ships so how would the Japanese get close?
@@alastair9446 becase at the time Radars would get tons of clutter when operating near islands.
This resulted in Japanese slipping in close to US warships and point blank shoot outs taking place.
Its not debatable. Its what happened.
@@ComeAlongKay the Yamato class was made because 1) carriers were not expected to have such a huge success 2) because of the Washington naval treaty the Japanese couldn't overproduce battleships which would made them in a disadvantage if they had a war with the us which could quickly produce even battleships. The Yamato class was meant to be superior to every American battleship when it was designed having at least the quality advantage
The ghost of the ill-fated RAH-66 Commanche lingers over the Bell 360 light attack/scout helicopter program. The U.S. Army kept publicly touting the capabilities of the RAH-66 up until the day it was canceled, to the baffling explanation that it wasn't working like it was supposed to, the technical glitches and bugs were either too difficult to solve or would have taken much longer and major redesigns. Most of us were like, "Huh?" A seven-billion dollar loss? Suddenly everyone remembered the ill-fated AH-56 heavy, armored Cheyenne attack helicopter from 1972. What was going on here? Does the U.S. Army even know what it is doing? But at least with the AH-64 Apache, the U.S. Army rolled a seven dice.
Will the 360 follow the fate of the RAH-66 and be too technically complex for its own good? The 360 is being touted as some kind of wunderweapon like the ones Hitler placed his desperate faith in in the desperate late hours of the Third Reich.
We'll just have to see. If things go south in the end, only the U.S. taxpayer got shafted with the billions of dollars loss. The aircraft manufacturer still received all those billions of dollars in R & D money which kept the company afloat and the employees employed and paid. The U.S. Army simply gets to start back all over a couple of years hence after a few embarrassed generals retire.
It look's really cool. I'm just glad the pilots can pick which side of the bed they prefer to handle their stick on.
Having a quick reaction airframe located at the patrol bases would be a game changer.
"If" it is. Even with all the cut costs, I'm not sure it will.
The idea of forward patrol bases against Russia or China is stupid.
Would need to be very cheap for the army to allow that.
@@Mr820121 in the (hopefully unlikely) event of any war, forward recon bases will become a necessity
@@vahidmoosavian6313 War against Russia or China means nuclear war. If the US has illusions of being able to win a war without it going nuclear we are all in serious trouble. The tactics displayed in the video would be usefull against the Taleban or some small state. And the new proposed helicopters look great.
This thing is cool man. Honestly one of the coolest helicopters I’ve seen.
Some of the visualizations have fenestrons, others have open tail rotors. Are there two concurrent options, or are these design iterations? And if so, which is the current one?
the duct tail rotor version is the old one. the new one is like the image in the thumbnail of the video
@@Taskandpurpose Thanks for the quick reply! Although it seems strange that a low-signature helo would have an open tail rotor. And the angle also seems counterintuitive. I'm sure there are valid reasons, but would love to know more.
@@janbfiala Angled tail provides increased yaw authority. For a L.O. helicopter I also find it strange they would abandon the fenestron. Although it is heavier and more mechanically complex.
The one handicap is that a Recon Copter always needs some seat for 4-6 Soldiers.
The Invictus is only a BABY APACHE !
Helicopters are, and always will be, incredibly vulnerable. If it's not RPG or AK rounds, they have a horrific accident rate.
It's not an apache replacement, but yes you do need a STANDOFF combat helicopter not just close range support. the apache was never meant to face down it's opponent get up in it's face in split second then blow it away, those bell chopper pilots are mad lads lol. the thing is the current apache models are no joke they fill their role really really well. I'm not sure why you are talking about the invictus like it's and apache replacement when you know it's meant for a different role..... as a ground attack ambusher the apache that is.
Without a active protection system a near pear enemy would knock it down with shoulder launched missiles esp the new visual identification guided missles being developed overseas. It also does not have enough armor like the hind to be able to fly that low safely. Stealth won't help much at short ranges vs heavy mg's. Needs more armor and maybe even a entirely armored cockpit with the f35 viewthru system. If they gave this some of the capabilities of the hind so it could assist in field resupply and fob resupply so it could pull double duty even using its remote operation to do resupply autonomously that would be huge. Not to mention casualty extractions. needs a in air refilling system that is autonomous so it can stay on station longer without fatiguing the pilots.
theyre talking about adding APS to helicopters not sure if thats actually happening or how well that would work though
@@Taskandpurpose Next time you do one of these interviews with a aircraft company please try to find time to ask them about APS, new visual and sound identification software for onboard surveillance systems to detect and track targets and if they are going to be using products like ALON in future armored glass for cockpits. Would be great to hear their thoughts!
I wonder why they dont make fully unmanned small circular choppers chunking with armor and 2 miniguns on each side. Like from that brad pitt movie
The nice thing is that the drones would potentially offer situational awareness on a mission, so it's harder for enemy to sneak up with MANPADS. But I also see active protection systems as becoming viral now
@@deansmits006 they would probably just rig a small remote launcher static ground drone and hide under a glass plate or other thermally protected makeshift structure/bunker.
A huge requirement of any 'reconnaissance' aircraft is the ability to deposit or extract elements to or from ground. If you cannot carry passengers, you lose a great deal of utility as a reconnaissance aircraft.
That's not the role of scout helicopters. Remember this is the replacement to the OH58. And that Big Green cancelled both the commanche program, and did the same with ARH. They need a Scout aircraft that is intended for the modern day threats, not a troop transport.
Maybe an SF fireteam, bit not a full squad. Recon craft are for primarily scouting.
That's not even true.
Reminds me a little to the Comanche, which was ahead it’s time but never came und service
I have a 30 year-old Popular Mechanics with a nearly identical Bell helicopter design on the cover, I believe it was called the Commanche. I'll believe it when I see it.
I am wondering whether it has any hard protection for the crew. Does it have any armored plates or just bulletproof glass? Or has this aspect been compromised in favor of the stealth?
I don't even the DoD knows that yet.
It looks like it has similar protection to the Apache. No ballistic glass but it looks like there is a transparent blast barrier between the 2 crews. I’m guessing they also have armored seats as well.
Just sit on your helmet and save your balls. That’s the best they can give us
Any kind of helicopter that is "armored" will inherently become a slow target for anti-aircraft systems, not that helos aren't already slow.
Attempts to incorporate protection (defense) can only degrade it's offensive and stealth (passive defense) capabilities.
Not unlike archers from ancient warfighting, they aren't designed to take heavy hits for good reason, and they will never win battles by themselves, but they can really be a key aid that contributes.
It`s just very noticeable that Russian helicopters often have an all-armored cockpit with a good couple of centimetres of steel whereas their American counterparts can only boast a few mms of some composite armor on the operators` seats and (not always) a bulletproof glass
1) Neither FARA contender is intended to replace the Apache.
2) Comanche wasn't cancelled because it was underpowered (far from it) nor it's canon being innacurate (wildly off the mark there (that's irony there).
3) Yes, a SGM will salute WO1. And a CW5 will salute a 2LT. Sometimes.
I enjoy your vids.
Stick to talking about guns.
Yes I know , it’s replacing the Apache in some of the missions it was never intended to do like recon . I outline that in the video.
I never said the Comanche was cancelled for being under powered . The cannon had accuracy problems and the engine had power issues.
Yes….I know. That was a joke about the perception of warrant officers . Thanks for the comment and the feedback love you just wanted to clear that up
Apaches will be removed from Attack Recon Battalions and replaced with FARA. Those former Attack Recon units will then be transformed into Attack Battalions.
So they’re replacing them in terms of fulfilling the mission, not aircraft-for-aircraft replacement/retirement.
@@TheMonkeytrumpetz FLRAA attack variant is supposed to replace Apache, not FARA.
@@Mediiiicc yeah you right
Comache was cancelled cause it was garbage, like come on bruh
I think I could easily fly one. I have the experience to know that greater visibility is a life saver. Missiles can be dodged but with advances in anti drone artillery we will see these kinds of aircraft meet a vastly more capable version of AAA.
40 meter rotor RADIUS is HUGE! That's a rotor DIAMETER of over 260 feet! I think you meant a 40-foot rotor DIAMETER.
A few clarifications..
Troops in the field aren’t expected to pull maintenance on these things. These choppers with have their own maintenance crews attached to battalion or HHC. Warrant officers outrank all NCOs, and are Junior to all Officers. I’d like to see the Army go a step further and develop a stripped down, drone version of this helicopter. Primarily for armed recon in areas with heavy enemy ADA.
Do you know how much incoming fire the helicopter can sustain? The Apache is capable of surviving 23mm rounds. And this thing, at least visually, doesn't seen to have a whole lot of armor at all. Just curious to see if you might know. Awsome video man.
what lacks in armor and flies makes up for it in sneakiness (stealth) and speed
It’s an armed recon helicopter, not an attack helicopter, so it’s not really meant for a role in which it would need a ton of armor. It is meant to scout without being seen and targeted so that other assets (like Apaches) can do their work quickly and get out before they have a chance to be shot down. It is well-armed enough to take out some enemy forces if needed, but that’s not its primary mission. Think of it as a cruiser and the Apache as a battleship.
Even with the highest tech and air superiority or even supremacy, the US still got its ass kicked out of Vietnam and Afghanistan, both times by an adversary who had never before seen a flush toilet.
You mean withdrawal?
US destroyed taliban in first place
US destroyed saddam
Also us kicked ass of nazis Japanese and Italians and now has soo many allies, Russia can't even fight lil Ukraine. I'm sure US will win wars.
Insurgency is different kid.
@@danialebrahimi1090 That the US destroyed the Taliban will come as a very big shock to the caretaker government currently in Afghanistan, Danial.
And in case you don't remember, it's no longer called Saigon Vietnam anymore.
Fighting a war for the wrong reasons is different, and no amount of tech can make the immoral reasons moral. China, Korea, Cuba. The list is long.
Kid.
can invictus take 30mm hits as apache? (the gold question), and has titanium blades to really fly low, cutting the trees?
WTF ? show me a helicopter that cuts trees
Fly by wire was invented in about 1956 in Canada for the CF105 AVRO Arrow interceptor.
Great plane... but they had to scrap it because Coca Cola was going to sue them for taking inspiration from their Coke Bottle's curves.
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I have concerns about the "Scout" role and while I naturally like integration of capabilities this may be a bit overreach.
In addition, the airspace management sounds incredibly complex with multiple platforms flying at low altitudes along with deploying drones. Now there will be additional assets competing in the same space physically and electro-spectrum.
I can't tell you how many times helicopter pilots like to run into any type of cables so City flying sounds ridiculous to me.
One of the greatest challenges for UAVs is recovery after launch so I am assuming if these UAVs are missiles that they will NOT be recovered? Any info on that aspect would be appreciated.
Also concerned about loiter time. With a planned small time window operation not a big deal but with sustained support or hunting missions more time is necessary
Otherwise the concept of simplified maintenance, support, and parts interactions sounds like a good win and should be the goal of the scout vehicle.
Also agree about pilot protection should be 1/2 main weight additions, the other being reconnaissance, surveillance, communications package.
Let's hope to see the continued development of aviation assets for the Army.
Side note, I mostly only knew Air Defense, Signal, and Intel Warrants... But you made me laugh a few times.
Technically at CW2/W-2 they are officers. Sometimes they have to be reminded.
Now that wire-guided missiles are largely being supplanted by laser-guided ones, the wire problem for AeroScouts has been greatly diminished. Additionally, various types of radars can see obstacles - although I don't know that Scouts would have that capability, and it's not necessarily needed. All the various heads-up-options being developed allow the pilot to keep his head out of the cockpit, making obstacle strikes much less likely.
Yes, airspace deconfliction is going to be an issue, but it's already a facet of Airspace Management, so basically aircrews need to watch out for enemy stuff; their own has already been de-conflicted or they know where to look for it. And, even at nap-of-the-earth flight altitudes, there's a lot of empty sky out there.
Eat farts. Scouts out
To the gay bar, Scout Out!
10:18 The helicopter mocked model's controls, the HOTAS, is literally the Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS Joystick. Haha.
Us: bridges collapsing, infrastructure crumbling. "Look at this 7 billion dollar death machine"😂😂
Your videos and presentation style has greatly improved. Great content. Thank you!
The age of counter insurgency warfare is over, i think its a valid statement that armies are now turning there budgets towards equipment that will see them go head to head against other major states like russia and china, war with these states will see many changes to current doctrin and assets (changes will be made regardless of war or not). My own perspective on this is that the age of the common soldier is ending and more focus will be set on specialised ground forces (SF and tier 2) WITH specialised equipment and not bigger or ''clunckier'' assets but definitely a more capable soldier who can go further for longer with less (support)... the age of light reconnaissance teams is dawning like RECCES (south african SF) or Reconaissance Commandos of the French army, the examples are endless.
great vid T&P
This once again put a distance between China and Russia from running a close race to once again putting a long distance gap to a distance race at the top
the primary role for attack helicopters is anti-tank, these 'scout' helos are budget full sized attack helos
This is very similar to a drawing I made 40 years ago for a stealthy attack helicopter, but I gave it NOTAR.
I was a Huey "slick" pilot in Vietnam. We were sitting ducks but still very effective. I am thrilled to see what can be done to provide better support to the ground forces (our mission) and decrease our vulnerability to absolute necessity. It is necessary to be exposed when supporting a soldier but it would be nice to have a drone to do the scouting around. At the age of 76 I no longer dream of flying one of these things and I saw a glass cockpit and doubt if I could cope with it now. The new pilots need less of a "cowboy" spirit and more of a gamers speed and quick thinking. God bless our new troops and new aviators.
It sounds good. They need to guard against 'mission creep,' however. That'll be the tendency to take equipment meant for one thing and try to apply it to everything else.
Man, we are living in the future now. This is the kinda shit we all watched on sci fi shows and heard blips about growing up in the 80's and 90's. Insane watching come into reality. Too bad we didn't work this hard on shit like climate change or some other modern day problem we saw coming from way back. Humans are so smart and yet so dumb all at the same time. Just like we are resilient and fragile.
They are officers and they answer to a chain of command. They just aren’t your typical officer.
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