Honda EU2000 Inverter Generator Charging an Electric Car.
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When the power grid goes down and you have no other way of charging your electric car, you may have to charge it using a generator.
A real world comparison. Great video. Whoever asked how many miles per gallon does an electric car get? Offers a unique perspective. Your time was not wasted.
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There is MPGe but this is not the same, but a useful metric.
I know that your intent was to prove charging in an emergency, but this also proves that this little, red Honda can be like a little red gas can. If you are stuck without power on the side of the road, a friend or spouse can come with the Honda and give you just enough charge to get you home or some other charge point.
It also shows that if you go camping at some remote site, you can use the Honda to power the loads at camp and then add a little charge to give you some range to get you home!
I only wished everyone got my intent like you just explained. EXACTLY
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That's exactly why I looked for this type of video,... In 2023 Subaru is releasing their AWD getaway all electric vehicle.
if it only adds 15 miles in 4 hours a friend or spouse would be better off throwin a tow rope on it and tow it 15 miles and be done in 30 minutes instead of 4 hours
Yea if you don't mind sitting on the side of the road for 5 hours.
@@warntheidiotmasses7114or listening to a generator run all f’in day while you’re camping lmfao
This is incredible. So useful I think. Great job!!!
4 hours under full load on the Honda Gen that's really good 👍!!
Where this relates to a large jeep community is in the new Wrangler 4xe. While overlanding we can run our jeep on hybrid battery with climate control on ( ac) for 16hrs . Unless on 120v we cant recharge remotely. The 4xe also allows all climate control functions while plugged in. For guys like me we can remotely camp in our jeeps while using full climate control with a small generator on a hitch carrier. The information you provided was detail, thank you
Thanks for sharing this with us.
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Excellent demo. Kudos to you. Noticed your 2nd generator had a greater kwh output and it seemed similarly as quiet. Bonding plug looks cool...a nice touch.
Just to know that in an emergency the Honda EU2000 has the guts to give you a few miles to get you through is fantastic. Some of the people commenting should just stick to smaller capacity gasoline or diesel cars so they can always have fantastic mileage 🙄
I’m surprised it actually got that much. Great video Gavin😁
Finally someone who understands what I was trying to prove.
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I stumbled upon your channel and subscribed a few weeks ago while looking for the new Honda EU3200i and I’ve really enjoying your content. I’m slowly going through all your videos. Down to earth and honest is great to watch 👍
Thanks for the video. You wondered how fast a larger generator, like a 3.5KW model would charge. Sadly, unless your larger generator has 240V (and you also have a 240V portable charger) not much would change. The car will only request 12A at 120V, even if your generator would give more to other loads connected.
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Fantastic proof of concept.
I would love to see you drive the vehicle and verify that you could really go 15 miles on that charge.
It also goes to show that unless you are using solar to charge that vehicle, it is incredibly energy inefficient.
60% or so, in inefficiency? ha! most people think electricity is created by pixie dust.. like pizza come from a pizza tree...
A Honda 2000 is NOT the same efficiency as a power plant. The test is showing the amount of electrical energy that specific generator can extract from a gallon of fuel, not how far an EV can go on a gallon of fuel. If you used that same gallon in the engine of this car (it's a plug-in hybrid) it would get 30-40 mpg which is still not even that great. power plant scale generation is much more efficient than that, that's the whole point of electric cars, you're essentially using the huge generator that's super efficient and well controlled to distribute power to thousands of cars. Evan if it's powered by natural gas or coal it's still much less CO2 made than burning gasoline in each car engine.
@@josephvillatoro4215 electricity is generated in large scale at much higher efficiencies than a small portable generator or even a car engine can achieve.
Nice. I have a 2013 Volt and you can actually charge the battery half way with the engine in mountain mode. Of course you can drive it on pure gas when the battery runs out too.
My buddy and I were just talking about testing this.......good job.
Nice meter.....😉
Thanks 🙏🏾
Wonder if I would get a different result using a 3000w generator
Considering your only able to provide 120v and about 11.5 amps most cars are able to handle a 50 amp circuit some even higher.
So if you could do 25 amps which would be max load on a 3000 watt gen and at 1 gallon....would you gain much more because you will be burning more fuel for sure. But for emergency thats exactly what its for...just enough if you need to get around a little bit.
@@GeneratorReviews that would be cool....where do you live...? 👍😃
My leaf charges at 1800 watts with a similar charger. It used 2.5 gallons in 4 hours. I didn’t check the miles.
Very interesting, good info. I have this generator and plan on an electric car. this could get you off the side of the road.
Absolutely!
This is one of the best answers. Four hours seems like a long time to get 15 miles of driving. Another test compare driving mile with all amp sucking option running compared to all off but essentials.
A life saver especially if the next charging station is just a couple of miles away.
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It's always advisable to have a generator for EV owners, not just for the EV but also for the fridge. A good quality generator like the Honda is also advisable, as the cheap ones may die unexpectedly because constant 100% load is very hard on the generator.
If there's a shortage of gas, the ICE cars are stuffed. If there's a shortage of electricity, EV owners can turn gas into electricity with a portable generator.
💯agreed
Good video. I’ll keep my gas vehicle and spare gas can. I’d have Instant access to the 15 miles per gallon instead of having to wait 4 hrs to get 15 more miles. In an emergency, time is crucial!
The vast majority of people don't carry a gas gan
@@ProlificInventionInteresting response. Are they keeping a generator instead?
@@dmac232000 No, they just keep an eye on their fuel level and consider their remaining range and manage fuel stops accordingly so they don't run out. It's exactly the same for an electric car. A backup never hurts, however, as I ran out of gas when young and had to walk quite the distance several times for more fuel.
@@dmac232000 I know for a fact most people don't carry a full fuel can onboard their vehicle, many drive open cabin vehicles such as minivans and SUVs and a strapped down can of fuel is a hazard in several different ways including heat expansion and pressurized fumes
@@ProlificInvention Oh. Okay. Thanks.
I wasn’t suggesting to carrier extra fuel around in the vehicle everywhere one might go.
Rather, I meant I’d keep a spare tank at home instead of a generator, adapter cable, gas can, and spare time.
Being mindful of fuel levels would apply to both scenarios as no one carries spare gas or generators around on their vehicle all the time.
Definitely do an update video with a more powerful generator. I would love to see it with a non-gas generator/power pack as well.
Great idea thanks 👍🏾
id have to agree but also maybe like a duel fuel generator see how far a propain take would get you ?
@@MrCam3565 excellent idea
That "more powerful generator" would provide no advantage, if the Honda car accepts a limited current.
@@mikelowe2094 a more efficient generator would help a lot, that Honda 2000 is only 14% efficient. a larger genny would do a bit better.
Good video now try with a predator generator see what it gives you since lots of people have the predator generator also would be great good testing 👍🏻
Nicely done. Irony of gas to charge an electric did not go unnoticed, but I get your test. Nicely done.
Thanks 😊
Very interesting! I thought the Honda EU2000 would have given more than 15 miles.
I think it was interesting testing this on a plug in hybrid like the volt because we know what kind of fuel economy the car gets, which is about 35 mpg. It's interesting comparing the efficiency of this to the engine
That’s really fascinating! Great video. Thanks for sharing.
Very useful. I have a model Y and a Honda 2000 I. I also have the larger generator with 220 output would love to see what a gallon would do.
Thank you so much! That was a cool real world solution-if you run out of charge. Great job!!
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Great experiment ! This is definitely something to consider !
Yep! should always have a backup plan 👍🏾
Question. In this test, it took 4 hours to add 15 miles of range. How long does it take add 15 miles from a regular 110v outlet? Yes I am fully aware that this was a proof of concept test. Thank You very much for this test.
It would take exactly the same time since I was using 120 at 11 amps
240v is the best way to charge your EV
Same time from a wall outlet as we get 112v and 12-amp for 1,344 watts. That is max from the charger.
A 240v would charge faster and use the gas faster because of the heavier load on the generator to charge at 240v. But due to higher efficiency of engines when they are under a load, 240v charging should be more efficient also. That Honda using 1 gallon of gas lasting 4 hours is impressive though. You were at 70% rated load. Not bad. Nice test.
Other comments state that the car will accept only 120 volts and a limited amperage, so a larger generator would provide no advantage.
@@mikelowe2094 that car (chevy volt) charges at a maximum of 16A at 240v, it has a 3,600W onboard charger that's actually most efficient (89%) at max power so a larger more efficient generator running at about 80% capacity capable of charging at 240v/16A would help a bit. That honda 2000 is nice and portable but is unfortunately only 14% efficient.
Thanks for doing this experiment.
I wonder if you charged 2 or 3 cars at the same off same generator what effect you would have for fuel consumption?
Would you double or triple the mpg of fuel used?
interesting experiement, thanks for sharing. Good info. -From Bangalore, India
did you try to see if you can put the generator in the car for emergency use, not to charge it, but basically run the motor directly?
The car won’t allow you to drive when it’s plugged in
That was great. Thank you for taking the time to do that 👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
Gavin you're the man thanks for this seriously 🙏🤝
Thanks 😊
We think alike , liked your video!
Great minds 😊👍🏾🙏🏾💯🤪😅
Great post to prove a genset can charge an ev and the efficiency of the genset converting fuel to power. For comparison - a Tesla m3 travels 4 times further than a Toyota Corolla per gallon when you factor ‘well to wheel’ loss calculations.
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5:42 both the vehicle charger and a heater are continuous loads meaning they can only pull 80% of a rated circuit. For this 12amps is 80% of 15. 8:22 it also had to refill the buffer most likely so not all of the 0.8 is per mile. 366 watt hours per mile or 0.366KWh on the volt 15 miles/ 5.5kwh.
Very useful experiment and I liked it.
Thanks 😊
Thank you for this test. I would like to see this test done with other EV's. I'm curious about the 15 miles per gallon number. Does this hold true for other electric vehicles? Great test idea.
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In comparison. A 1500cc car would do 37miles per gallon.
Sounds pretty inefficient to me this ev stuff when a gas engine can get 37mpg
And this one gets 15mpg
@@1234crazydude it's worth it for emergencies only
That was not the point of the experiment ie to compare efficiency. The point was to know if it was possible and how much you need in case of an emergency..which was achieved in my opinion. You would only do this in an emergency...for example of a long road trip in between chargers when driving a pure electric car.
My 22 year old vw TDI gets almost 52mpg (750+ miles per tank) 43+ in town and it fills up in five minutes, not 4hrs for 15 miles in an emergency….. I will never get an EV, never.
@@esmaponda4 hrs for 15 miles doesn’t quite sound like “emergency” timing to me. Using a fuel can in 5-10 minutes fits the “emergency” timing a bit better.
Enjoyed the video informative and well done thank you
Thanks for watching
UK here - how easy is it to 'convert' a 110/120v outlet to a 240v outlet? As I understand it, most US homes are both 120v for 'normal' things, and 240v for anything that would be wall spurred (electric oven etc). Would reduce home charging times by half.
Great test! This is very helpful to know.
this is an awesome test. base on some of the comments, some people kinda miss the point. I know what you are saying for the test, in case of an emergency, but electricity is created by some kind of fuel or other investment in technology like solar, wing, nuclear, etc. it looks like we are going backward, from 36-55 mpg to 15 mpg, my 2016 Chevy cruse gives me 36-42 mpg. I used to own a VW Jetta TDI that gave me 44-52 mpg of diesel. someone is lying with statistics to us. just an observation.
Nobody is lying, that small genny is not that efficient, it only makes 4-5kWh per gallon, that's just the math. Larger generators do a bit better. A whole building backup genny that's the size of a car engine does about 15kWh/gallon which is about 56mpg in an EV after charging losses.
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really interesting video. just what i was looking for. i seen a bunch of photos from ukraine after ru took out most of their power grid last winter of a bunch of electric cars with 2000 wat generators bolted on to the back of them. I know you can use the volt (atleast in most gen1 models) as a generator for itself just by putting it into mountain mode and idling the car and it will charge up to about half way charged (~5kwh) but I would think a smaller motor would be more efficient.... but then a lot of other things come into play. i think mountain mode charging up to half way from 0 miles range gives me about 37mpg
Nice experiment. 👍🏼
Thank you 🤗
Great Job !!! I was wondering if a generator would do the job , at least get home power , I would like to see a 1 gal. gas test with a 240 volt generator
Interesting. Glad you done this test
So 15mpg, it's equal about 15,7 liter/100km. Not bad at all for an emergency case. If you let it charge overnight, you'll get about 30 mile trip.
I enjoyed your video!
Thanks 🙏🏾
I get the feeling that 5 kWh from 1 gallon of gas isn’t that bad, it’s the efficiency of your car batteries into miles that lets it down I think..
What about the device you plugged into the gen plug . Please make a video on that detail. 👍
That device is called a bonding plug. It is used for generators with a floating neutral or an open ground.
what a great idea. cool analysis. very good video
Thanks 🙏🏾
That honda geni is one of the most efficient genis out there. A bigger geni will use a lot more gas for that 15 miles.
My 3/4 ton truck gets around 18mpg. Why would I buy an EV?
Cool test. I found it ironic that you did the test on a chevy volt. Bc the volt is the only ev made that uses a generator to power the ev motor when the battery runs out. It's generator averages around 40mpg. Since it's generator is amazingly efficient it sure would be cool if if there was an option like the Ford lightning which you could Use the generator to power the house or whatever. Also if you really drove slow you could probably get significantly more than 15 miles. Could save a friend from needing a tow. I would think charging at 240v would be more efficient. In fact could see how many kwh you make on a gallon of gas to compare. Thanks for taking the time to make an interesting video
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That’s a great idea 💡 look for the 240v test soon I’m going to make it because of your idea
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A 240V generator will be much more efficient as you have the wasted mechanical and heat energy from the generator, so the more power you can pull from a gas engine, the better. How much more ? I’m guessing a lot actually. Maybe 25 miles of charge? I can’t wait to find out! The most efficient setup would probably be a 240v gen that can hold the 240v load at about 80% of the gen load. So roughly a 3500w gen or so
Great Video. Do you have a 240v generator to try this test with? Seems like you would get twice the charge with roughly the same amount of gas.
Great point!
It would take more gas probably. The larger generator will use more gas even with no load.
I wonder what a step up voltage converter would do.
@@texastowman233 You would loose power in the conversion.
There ain't no free lunch ... 240 volts would charge in a shorter time but use about the same amount of gas because you need more gas power to drive the 240 volts.
Minimum generator size required is 10 kva at 40 to 50 amps or larger.
To run a home it's minimum of 16 kva
Note; always uncoil charger cable. Never leave it coiled up when charging
thanks for sharing; great information!
if a black out occurs during winter time you could put a coil copper water pipe in the muffler take inside the generator inside and the gases outside and you get a space heater plus a charger.
Yep add a fan to circulate the heat from the hot pipe.
Yep we are definitely nerds😅🤓😅
Good job, how do you make ground bonding plug??
You connect the neutral to the ground
Can you Try with the New Honda 3200eu generator. Its gonna be big difference
No matter how you slice it gasoline will always play a role in the production of electricity somewhere in the system.
In Canada’s maritime Provinces coal is burned to produce electricity. Given how fuel efficient Honda Generates are I would say it’s a good choice. Must keep in mind also the chance of natural disasters causing power outages…how do you make allowances for that…..the generator is obviously the answer.
Thank you! Very useful information ❤️
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching
You had the electronics of the car on during the test didn't you? If the car was off during the charging, it would be possible to get more miles on a single gallon, right?
No all the electronics were off and the electricity that the screen consume is so minimal.
Thanks for watching 👍🏾
Nice video. Good concept.
A question: what would be the result if you connected TWO electric cars to the same generator fueled with 1 gallon of gas? Would both EV get 24 miles, would both get 12, or something else?
Unless the generator can supply enough amps to support two EV charging it would just trip the circuit breaker.
But if the generator was large enough to support charging two EV I guess it would just divide the charge between the two.
Hypothetically speaking I guess that’s what would happen
I’ve never tried it😅
all depend if a gallon of gas will give you 100miles of electeicity to drive.. make good sense. so how much miles it give per generator charge?
Not even close.
Good and useful test. Good job!
Glad you liked it!
That generator is damn good on gas shout out Honda
It's funny how they're saying electric cars are saving the planet but where are they getting the lithium for the batteries and now you're using gasoline to charge a battery and isn't that the same thing you're using the grid and where the power comes from the grid they burn coal doesn't make sense for electric cars
Did the generator really only take one gallon or was there refilling during the video
I only used 1 gallon of gas the entire test
nice about as much as my 1978 Blazer with a 350
Awesome test!
Great video thanks
how many miles per kwh does rhe Chevy volt get, i would have assumed around 3-4mi/kwh or so, my kia phev and vw EV.
Your guess is correct because it only gets about 40 miles with one charge which is not a lot by today’s standard
Chevy Volt gets15 miles per gallon lol,... You can get twice the mileage from a gas engine 30 times the size.
I know it doesn't exactly work that way but it does make you wonder how much Fossil Fuel is used to make this "Clean Electricity"
Yeah it doesn’t but it does make me wonder now that you mentioned it.
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Found this on the web: "COAL The average electric vehicle needs 33 kilowatt-hours of energy to travel 100 miles (160 km). A Tesla Model S would require about 286 pounds (130 kilograms) of coal to be burned at the local power plant."
@@davidyummus6259 Thanks for sharing this information
So the answer to how many miles per gallon does an electric car get is 15mpgallon. Considering a modern gas car gets over 30, I guess it makes it pretty inefficient really
Gavin can you tell us how do you purchase that nurture plug to change electric car. Is that self grounded. Thanks
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@@GeneratorReviews Hello Gavin do I need that plug if I’m using my eu 2200i for my house using adapter to the L-14 house inlet to the transfer switch box. Thanks Again
@@Nick-gi6ym No only if you’re using a surge protector
How about a "How to" on how to make one of those cool green light bonding plugs??
Thanks for watching I can make a video showing how to make one
Is that 1 small US gallon ? ..or is that 1 large imperial gallon ?
US gallon
15 mpg?!?! Why not just use a regular Silverado truck and you'll get better mileage. Better yet, use a Prius hydrid. Just sayin' Thanks for your video & all the work you put in!
interested in 2 parallel generators to 220 plug. For rapid charge.
Next test...start a coal fire and boil some water then capture the steam pressure and use that to run a turbine generator. Grab your 50 mile long extension cord and plug that into your EV and calculate how many pounds of coal you had to burn to go 15 miles. That's literally what's happening when you charge your electric car by plugging it in at home. You could have dumped that gallon of gasoline in a 1988 civic and gone 45 miles. Yes, I know there are windmills, dams and solar panels that produce electricity as well, but it's a fraction of our total energy production.
Hey I know this world 🌎 is crazy but I’m just trying my best. 😅 That test would be fun though lol
Where do I find a 50 mile long extension cord though🌎👍🏾
Not completely true. Most places in the US at least now get most of our electricity from natural gas which is far cleaning burning. Centralized power generation also has the opportunity to capture waste heat and bring efficiency far higher than a portable generator or car engine.
I have 39KWh of solar, I charge my car for free
My local coal fired power plant has recently done testing on burning biomass. Hopefully they will make the switch sometime soon.
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You know a Volt is actually a hybrid. It has a gasoline engine in it. I wonder if it is possible to run gasoline engine when the is standing? The gasoline engine works as a generator.
I dont think Volt has vehicle-to-load function
Makes you wonder why the EV industry (especially if they're required to produce 70% of all vehicles in a decade) is not designing their cars with a built-in internal gas-powered generator for emergency charging purposes. Shouldn't be too hard to figure that into the design.
If they do that they lose their "0 emissions" tax break
May I suggest a set of peddles as an necessary upgrade.
Lol
Good job
On old leaf its about 5 miles per kw
So, if you get 5.57 KWH from one gallon and the car can drive 15 miles lets price the 5.57 KWH from your electrical grid to determine how much it costs per mile to drive your electric car. 15 miles per gallon is not an impressive number for fuel efficiency.
Nice, Thanks.
Can you do an experiment using a solar-powered generator/inverter/power bank just to know how many miles can be gotten? Please 🤞
Sure I can do that 👍🏾
I would like to know if you bought an electric car that had a battery that would not charge any longer, could you put the generator in the trunk and electrically connect it to the car and run it on the generator. That would defeat the purpose of an electric car because now it runs on gasoline, but you would have an EV that you would not have to get rid of just because the batteries died. You would also be able to drive 4 hours on a gallon of gas instead of 15 miles of charge because the vehicle would be running at the same time the generator is. Calculate how far you can drive in 4 hours instead.
Where did you get your in line generator multimeter?
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Terrible efficiency but yes in an emergency it’s possible. 15 miles should be enough to get you to an actual charging station.
Yep or a $250 tow truck fee
I bet you don't want to wait 4 hours, that would be bad. Even waiting for a tow truck for a hour was awful. I mean for me at least.
Charging an electronic car with a gas generator defeats the purposes 😂
I know you are just showing us how to charge your car with the generator but it’s defying the whole object of it all, as fuel must be used in generator to charge the car so it would be easier to get a car to run off gas, diesel in the first place and no worries of running out of fuel… Anyways take care 👍🏼
"..but it’s defying the whole object of it all, as fuel must be used in generator to charge the car.."
Wait until you find out how the electric power plants are powered.
I wonder if you can get more miles if you choose to charge with the 8 AMP option... hmm????
Great question I’ll have to try it out.
How long does it take to charge the Citroen Ami in this way?
I have no idea but the Citroen ami is pretty cool 😎