I just want to say thank you. I've been disc golfing now for almost 6 years, and this is the very first informational video I found and studied regarding how to get better.
This is one of the best explanations of snap I've seen. Maybe because of it's name people concentrate on the grip but the whole movement of the hips then shoulders then acceleration of the arm out that causes great spin is well explained here. Nice video
At the end... Your throws over athletic field look like 500 plus feet. Fantastic. I feel lame but am getting better. This year from 175 feet up to 250. If I can reach 350 I will be satisfied! I am 50 years old.
Interesting and good instruction Luma,for me (after 5 years of playing) made sense using a hammer at work ,using my arm instead of the momentum/force built up in the tool......see the disc as an oval object rather than a round piece ,easier doing that with forehand than backhand ,but when you get it ......that changes everything about throwing discs.LOVE discgolf!
Every time I feel my form getting away from me I come back to this video. I love the simple thoroughness of the explanation, always brings me back into just focusing on the sequence of building potential energy for a clean kinetic release. Thanks for the video, I'm sure I'll be back. Oh, and #ThrowGYRO
Really good video, I'll have to watch this one again when I have more time. Love the places you've taken videos of your throws, some awesome background scenery. Maybe in 2017 I can give a tutorial similar to this about thumbers and side arms.
Nice video, hip/shoulder separation is everything in sports. I started playing a couple months ago. I backhand around 335+ max and forehand 375+. People were impressed by my progression but I credit it all to being a high velocity pitcher and understanding the importance of separation. Hoping to get to a 400+ backhand.
I found that when I just didn't use my arm at all and kept it close to my body until my other rotations forced it out oh, I was getting insane distance for basically no arm effort. On a solid rip I'm throwing 480 to 500 on a straight line usually, but by doing this I'm hitting 470 with almost no effort. This is insane! It's a bit windy out so I can't wait to try this when I can get a full follow through and snap at the end
How long have you played? I just started a little bit less then 3 weeks n my record is 292 ft 89 m. Ofc i need to practice but i wonder how long it took for you to learn slingshot?
@@joeillingworth1141 oh okey hahaha i have a long road there but do you have any tips? From what i understand your waist should come first then your upperbody n last your arm and it should be relaxed. But when i look at paul he’s forearm is not relaxed on the second before the release. Feels complicated to be relaxed then just in the right timing your gonna tighten your forearm.
Great video with funny elements too. 😂 Nice form! I see it's 7 years old so you might be in a different training space already. I'd only point out that I guess the modern DG-swing would not conciously turn the hips but rather "bump the wall" and get low that would cause the hips rotate by necessity. Of course there are many ways to throw and yours looks great. 😊
A lot of the concepts here (pivoting the body to provide power to the hands, even the term "snap") are used in my martial arts class. I notice a lot of the footwork is similar as well.
excellent points. Basically like all sports: boxing, tennis, you start from a motion, your foot, leg, hips, back, shoulders and arms, eventally all energy goes out from your hand. May I ask you, if I am correct, to gain spin and power from throwing disc is mainly technics, all parts of your body cooperats? Does it have anything to do with your brutal power that comes from your size, weight?
And damn straight.. bitches love the snap. Nothing turns chicks on more then throwing plastic! Im actually not joking, bring chicks discing. They like to get fucked on the back 9 😂
Very good and loved the light humor. You should try out an old school disc an Innova Condor. I'd be curious on your analysis of the dynamics of this large rim disc that is legal up to 200 grams. The increased distance between where you hold the disc and opposing side seems to allow for a lot of leverage. Just for fun take a long run up creating momentum and soften the sharpness of the torque at the release (kind of going against the principles in your video) using the extra weight of the disc with momentum and increased leverage to increase distance. The slow flight is beautiful and if everything balances out it goes very straight.
In point of fact, the Fission Photon has the highest wing-to-flightplate mass distribution of any golf disc available. However, there is no free lunch in disc golf, and you can only apply a certain amount of angular momentum to a disc. Therefore, a heavily weighted disc like a Photon will be spinning slightly slower than a standard-weighted discs when you release it. The effect is still real (imagine a disc with 80% of its weight at the center - it would not be very stable!) but it is small.
it's like dancing you start slow with the movement and practice it.. worked for me within a few days. Yes your arm/ hand has to act like that last part of the whip .
I'm a competitive bowler. I used what I learned in bio-mechanics from bowling and applied it to disc golf. I've been playing five months and I'm already driving farther than the people that taught me with eight years under their belt. It's all about coiling energy and creating an impact point at the release. Weight distribution and feeling how your hips affect your shoulders is key.
Nice slapshot bro. Harder then people think. I think disc golf is very technical.. And it took me almpst 3 years to become good. But hockey is insane.. gata ice skate, and hit a puck? Ya right..
Thanks for putting the time into this. Definitely things I'll put into practice. But please correct me if I'm wrong but did you huck a disc off a ship into open water? Not cool.
Mike Smallwood Well, a company over here produces discs out of organic material which is bio-degradeable.I don't like the flight and the material is less durable than DX but hey, I can throw it into the English Channel and be sure I won't find it there in 20 years :-)
+Mike Smallwood Yeah because everyone knows that if you throw a disc into the water, all the fish will die, the world's water supply will dry up and we will all die.
This is no critique, just a simple question :-) It looks like your hip is too open at 5.21, as your foot is point forward. Shouldn't it be pointing more directly at the camera? The reason I am asking is cause that is something I have been struggling a lot with.
I am a lifelong baseball player. I have a problem with dipping my shoulder when I throw the disc. I cannot break the habit of "swinging up at the ball" to match the plane of the pitch... that muscle memory seems ingrained, any tips on overcoming a "baseball swing" when you are looking for more of a "golf swing?" Or said another way: How do I keep from dipping my back shoulder in my throws, backhand and forehand?
oColt45o Hopefully this helps you out... my forehand was always natural and well developed but my backhand had similar issues you describe. Playing in the northwest US my cousin and his league buddies told me to stand facing a wall, close enough that the disc can pass through your core and the wall with maybe an inch or two to spare (and you will find what is comfortable and effective from doing it) and practice pulling back and going through the motion of the throw without touching the wall. It forces you to keep the motion close into your body, for one, and two, the slower practice of the motion makes you aware of your shoulders as you try and keep the plane of the disc level through this entire motion from pull back to follow through. Also, think of your elbow being in a 90 degree angle as you pull through your core. You will go faster as you practice more, and now when I am on a course I throw backhand with this invisible wall in front of my chest keeping the technique tighter than it ever was before this tip they gave me. Cheers
Eric Olson there's no luck involved in rollers. It's a shot like any other that you can learn to control. The only luck that would be involved is if you're throwing rollers on rough ground. That's definitely a situation where you're counting on luck.
+ilshockll Well, it's not that these are opposites. The "no wrist" guys probably mean that you shouldn't only flick the disc out of your wrist, but use all of your body and arms. That's what I tried to explain, that snap isn't anything that is wrist- or sound related but rather the correctly timed series of events resulting in your body acting like a spring to catapult the disc to where it's supposed to :-)
+Alex Padilla A solid average throw (not a huge S, a little flip and just a long straight flight) with no wind maybe around 130-135 m (440-450'). I can get the occasional 500'+ throw but I'd be lying if I said I can throw 500' all the time ;-)
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I just want to say thank you.
I've been disc golfing now for almost 6 years, and this is the very first informational video I found and studied regarding how to get better.
This is one of the best explanations of snap I've seen. Maybe because of it's name people concentrate on the grip but the whole movement of the hips then shoulders then acceleration of the arm out that causes great spin is well explained here. Nice video
+sfincione2000 definitely one of the better ones. His form is great 5:30
what's the image in your icon?
@@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777 Deadpool
So easy to understand the way you explain it. I’d love to watch more clips of long throws like how you ended the video. So pleasant to watch! Cheers
This video unlocked the mystery of the "whip" for me. You have my gratitude.
I think this is a really underrated video, very nice, man you're form got good quick!
At the end... Your throws over athletic field look like 500 plus feet. Fantastic. I feel lame but am getting better. This year from 175 feet up to 250. If I can reach 350 I will be satisfied! I am 50 years old.
Best explanation of mechanics of throwing I've seen so far.
Excellent description. Thanks for breaking the mechanics down for everyone.
As a ball golfer mainly, you got a good looking swing. Thanks for a great video on the snap.
What an awesome video! You broke down all of the mechanics very well. Hope to throw a round with you some day. Go Team MVP!!!!
Interesting and good instruction Luma,for me (after 5 years of playing) made sense using a hammer at work ,using my arm instead of the momentum/force built up in the tool......see the disc as an oval object rather than a round piece ,easier doing that with forehand than backhand ,but when you get it ......that changes everything about throwing discs.LOVE discgolf!
Great vid and admire your dedication to get better.
This was one of the best explanation's of hip motion and snap. I really appreciate it
Thank you for this explanation. I just recently started playing and this really helps.
Every time I feel my form getting away from me I come back to this video. I love the simple thoroughness of the explanation, always brings me back into just focusing on the sequence of building potential energy for a clean kinetic release. Thanks for the video, I'm sure I'll be back. Oh, and #ThrowGYRO
+everoblivion2005 Glad you like it and that it helps :) I had to watch it a couple times myself to get me ready for season :D Oh and yes!
Such a good vid! Greeting from Finland
Thank you for this spot on explanation of throw basics. I really wish I had watched your video before starting disc golf.
YO that golf swing wasn't half bad! nice video
YO!!! that tunnel shot at the end was CLEAN!
Really good video, I'll have to watch this one again when I have more time. Love the places you've taken videos of your throws, some awesome background scenery. Maybe in 2017 I can give a tutorial similar to this about thumbers and side arms.
This was fantastic. Thank you so much, man.
Great video and thanks for taking the time to do this!!!
This was soooo helpful for me. Many thanks.
Nice video, hip/shoulder separation is everything in sports.
I started playing a couple months ago. I backhand around 335+ max and forehand 375+. People were impressed by my progression but I credit it all to being a high velocity pitcher and understanding the importance of separation.
Hoping to get to a 400+ backhand.
This is a great video. I love how simple you make this. Thanks!
I really like your way to look at things. Practice is the key but also correct your mistakes anglevis so to speak!
I had an idea how throw better, but this put things together! Great work.
Wow, you're really awesome at making these kind of vids, congratulations!
Nice video, enjoyed the delivery and comparison to other sports.
I found that when I just didn't use my arm at all and kept it close to my body until my other rotations forced it out oh, I was getting insane distance for basically no arm effort. On a solid rip I'm throwing 480 to 500 on a straight line usually, but by doing this I'm hitting 470 with almost no effort. This is insane! It's a bit windy out so I can't wait to try this when I can get a full follow through and snap at the end
How long have you played? I just started a little bit less then 3 weeks n my record is 292 ft 89 m. Ofc i need to practice but i wonder how long it took for you to learn slingshot?
@@tsk_experiment I've played 5 years total maybe 3 more seriously. About 2 years ago I started trying a looser arm approach
@@joeillingworth1141 oh okey hahaha i have a long road there but do you have any tips? From what i understand your waist should come first then your upperbody n last your arm and it should be relaxed. But when i look at paul he’s forearm is not relaxed on the second before the release. Feels complicated to be relaxed then just in the right timing your gonna tighten your forearm.
Excellent video! Good examples and very straight forward!
Really nice video, thanks for taking the time to put this all together.
Love your video man! Very helpful and well done 👍🏻
Super instructional video-thanks!
Great video! TEasy to understand and recreate. Thank you!
Good vid! Well explained and demonstrated.
Nice Video!! Always fun to watch good instructional vids.
PLEASE make more disc golf videos!!
Great video!
What disc did you throw off the ferry? Haha.
Nice breakdown. Thank you much.
great video! im new to disc golf and im totally going to practice this at my local park!
Best video I’ve ever seen.
This was really well done. Cheers!
Nice job man. And nice gold swing
Sehr anschaulich. Danke!
Great video with funny elements too. 😂 Nice form! I see it's 7 years old so you might be in a different training space already. I'd only point out that I guess the modern DG-swing would not conciously turn the hips but rather "bump the wall" and get low that would cause the hips rotate by necessity. Of course there are many ways to throw and yours looks great. 😊
Bravo. Really nicely done.
Great video! Thanks for making it!
A lot of the concepts here (pivoting the body to provide power to the hands, even the term "snap") are used in my martial arts class. I notice a lot of the footwork is similar as well.
excellent points. Basically like all sports: boxing, tennis, you start from a motion, your foot, leg, hips, back, shoulders and arms, eventally all energy goes out from your hand. May I ask you, if I am correct, to gain spin and power from throwing disc is mainly technics, all parts of your body cooperats? Does it have anything to do with your brutal power that comes from your size, weight?
Good vid! Question.. does snap and spin add both less fade and less turn?
6:50 ...WHY!?
I know!! What the fuck was that about?
he was pickin up those chicks man lmao
Shealoac why not? $8 disc, on an expensive cruise haha. Bet a beer would cost as much as buying a cheap puttet
And damn straight.. bitches love the snap. Nothing turns chicks on more then throwing plastic! Im actually not joking, bring chicks discing. They like to get fucked on the back 9 😂
Pollute more already polluted ocean. Stupid af. Bin has been invented.
What an outstanding video
Very good and loved the light humor. You should try out an old school disc an Innova Condor. I'd be curious on your analysis of the dynamics of this large rim disc that is legal up to 200 grams. The increased distance between where you hold the disc and opposing side seems to allow for a lot of leverage. Just for fun take a long run up creating momentum and soften the sharpness of the torque at the release (kind of going against the principles in your video) using the extra weight of the disc with momentum and increased leverage to increase distance. The slow flight is beautiful and if everything balances out it goes very straight.
Really enjoyed this
In point of fact, the Fission Photon has the highest wing-to-flightplate mass distribution of any golf disc available. However, there is no free lunch in disc golf, and you can only apply a certain amount of angular momentum to a disc. Therefore, a heavily weighted disc like a Photon will be spinning slightly slower than a standard-weighted discs when you release it. The effect is still real (imagine a disc with 80% of its weight at the center - it would not be very stable!) but it is small.
it's like dancing you start slow with the movement and practice it.. worked for me within a few days. Yes your arm/ hand has to act like that last part of the whip .
Such a great video and to end it with throwing a disc into the sea...
Thank you for the awesome video.
I'm a competitive bowler. I used what I learned in bio-mechanics from bowling and applied it to disc golf. I've been playing five months and I'm already driving farther than the people that taught me with eight years under their belt. It's all about coiling energy and creating an impact point at the release. Weight distribution and feeling how your hips affect your shoulders is key.
+Mark Grejda For perspective, the sidearm mechanics for disc golf are the exact bowling mechanics.
how faar do you throw ?
Just walked off a 420ft drive yesterday using udisc. It was my first throw over 400ftt. No wind.
I am in the same boat as you man. It’s incredible how those two sports correlate with each other!
Funny you say that. A few of my discs' fade tendencies remind me of a bowling curve ball
You are awesome, appreciate this video so much!
Nice slapshot bro. Harder then people think. I think disc golf is very technical.. And it took me almpst 3 years to become good. But hockey is insane.. gata ice skate, and hit a puck? Ya right..
The actual “snap” sound is the result of a whip like action that you make, and it is not the result of a firm grip
Nice golf swing buddy!!
Huuh! I just got it! Thnx man!
Great video!
ty, well thought out.
wonderful video
My elbow hurts just watching this.
What a amazing video
What discs and weights would you recommend for a beginner? I dont have strong arms.
Great vid
Great Video
Which MVP disc would you recommend for the beginners?
Thanks for putting the time into this. Definitely things I'll put into practice. But please correct me if I'm wrong but did you huck a disc off a ship into open water? Not cool.
Mike Smallwood Well, a company over here produces discs out of organic material which is bio-degradeable.I don't like the flight and the material is less durable than DX but hey, I can throw it into the English Channel and be sure I won't find it there in 20 years :-)
+Mike Smallwood Yeah because everyone knows that if you throw a disc into the water, all the fish will die, the world's water supply will dry up and we will all die.
+Reality Rick I'm sorry your daddy didn't hug you as a child.
Wow, that makes sense. (eyes rolling)
Reality Rick someone's mad
This is no critique, just a simple question :-) It looks like your hip is too open at 5.21, as your foot is point forward. Shouldn't it be pointing more directly at the camera? The reason I am asking is cause that is something I have been struggling a lot with.
Wheres the Crackle and Pop ?
Good shit man :)
great video
I am a lifelong baseball player. I have a problem with dipping my shoulder when I throw the disc. I cannot break the habit of "swinging up at the ball" to match the plane of the pitch... that muscle memory seems ingrained, any tips on overcoming a "baseball swing" when you are looking for more of a "golf swing?" Or said another way: How do I keep from dipping my back shoulder in my throws, backhand and forehand?
oColt45o Hopefully this helps you out... my forehand was always natural and well developed but my backhand had similar issues you describe. Playing in the northwest US my cousin and his league buddies told me to stand facing a wall, close enough that the disc can pass through your core and the wall with maybe an inch or two to spare (and you will find what is comfortable and effective from doing it) and practice pulling back and going through the motion of the throw without touching the wall. It forces you to keep the motion close into your body, for one, and two, the slower practice of the motion makes you aware of your shoulders as you try and keep the plane of the disc level through this entire motion from pull back to follow through. Also, think of your elbow being in a 90 degree angle as you pull through your core. You will go faster as you practice more, and now when I am on a course I throw backhand with this invisible wall in front of my chest keeping the technique tighter than it ever was before this tip they gave me. Cheers
3:49 This is the throw that I prefer. I will try to use this and hopefully better my power transferred to the disc upon release.
Eric Olson need to get good at both to play a course well
Very true. I practice all the different ways a disc is thrown. I got my putting down last year and can make it 40 feet out now.
Not a huge fan of rollers though. Too much luck involved.
I dont understand rollers either
Eric Olson there's no luck involved in rollers. It's a shot like any other that you can learn to control. The only luck that would be involved is if you're throwing rollers on rough ground. That's definitely a situation where you're counting on luck.
Do u feel any pain on your finger when u release a disc?
0:38 I've been to that soccer field in Brooklyn.
So if it's a mirrior image of a golf swing wouldn't it be easier to just throw left handed?
I can't seem to get my hips involved, any tips
Dude... is that a MVP backpack?
+Dan McDade Prodiscus - simply bigger pockets for jackets and stuff than a Grip. But those are MVP patches that I ironed on, yes indeed :)
+Luma nice! 👍
I hear the accent and it conjures up images of Peter sellers as dr strangelove. Not a bad thing, just made me grin a little
So you are the reasons there is so much natural plastic in the ocean? xD
why do i hear "no wrist" from some people and "snap" from others?
+ilshockll Well, it's not that these are opposites. The "no wrist" guys probably mean that you shouldn't only flick the disc out of your wrist, but use all of your body and arms. That's what I tried to explain, that snap isn't anything that is wrist- or sound related but rather the correctly timed series of events resulting in your body acting like a spring to catapult the disc to where it's supposed to :-)
I like the other guy talking trash about all the other sports.
There is enough plastic in the ocean... No need to throw a disc in there... WTF
LOL this guy is hilarious!
I liked the video very much until you threw a disc off a ferry. Why?...
from dad
dont hurt me
How far can you throw on flat ground?
+Alex Padilla A solid average throw (not a huge S, a little flip and just a long straight flight) with no wind maybe around 130-135 m (440-450'). I can get the occasional 500'+ throw but I'd be lying if I said I can throw 500' all the time ;-)
Golf*
bump
😂😂😂😂
huh, dude just throw a disc in open water on a boat lol
Thumbs down from me. That was kind of stupid to throw the disc in the ocean. Or, a very stupid thing to do.