Grandiose and incomparable - Wilber is for me leading philosopher worldwide. His integral theory should be studied at every school, college and university!
Listening to this is like a massage for the brain after a lifetime of strain and confusion, searching and rejection. Thank you Doshin Roshi for encouraging your listener to find and listen to Ken.
Cameah Gill I really like your subscriptions and the path you look like you’re on. I also found this guy through Doshin Roshi and watch many of the same channels as you. 🙏🏻
An eye opening, a life transforming presentation, a life - Integral Spirituality, Integral Life, Integral World View. Much love and respect! Forever indebted to you, Ken ❤!
I am fascinated with Mr Wilber's presentational analyses - I've never,prior to discovering him , heard such an apparently rational and lucid system of human evolution . So many questions and previously thought to be loose ends he manages to make so clear . Certainly his statement that peace on a global level requires these upward stages of development is incredibly clear , especially as he points out the violent and disastrous results of the lower level religious systems . Just as amazing is his pointing out this system of evolution and it's absolute necessity and applicability to all realms of human experience in all areas of human experience . In short , the knowledge presented here is a bright light shed on all human civilzation long overdue . ...Much grateful thanks Ken Wilber -Namaste 😔
I have read several of his books and do appreciate his ideas and think they are helpful to today’s world, but the best idea I ever got from him was a you tube video in which he explained ‘I amness’. Truly a revolutionary moment in my spiritual thinking--blew it wide open for me!!
You must be ready to understand it. Even you as a person must go through all the stages to be able to understand what he is saying. Thank you very much Ken Wilber I will be reading more of you.
The night before I got a Ken Wilber book, I had a dream where I received a phone call from him and it said "Kenneth Wilber" as the name calling. The book completley tied together every loose end I ever wanted.
It is only those at the integral levels of religions who are capable of undertaking the recognitions spoken of here. And they would probably gladly do it, all together even! Thank you very much for thinking about all this Mr Wilbur!
i was so touched by his critique of modern atheism, totally ignoring the blessings and levels of consciousness, it is amazing to hear somebody very clearly formulating many of your more sub believes and insights, thank you ken wilber
Atheism is the absence of a religion. A-theism means non-theism. At not all atheists try to explain reality with science. Some atheists just don't give a damn or don't waste a single thought on the reality they inhabit. As long as they don't believe in a theism, they are by definition atheists. I even know atheists who describe themselves as deistic atheists, so they believe in some sort of creator intelligence but its non-religious, not-theistic, hence a-theistic. And by the way I have not yet heard hitchens or dawkins talk badly about deism or a more allegorical, metaphorical or abstract theism. I could imagine they still don't find it compelling but I don't think they're bothered by it either. They condemn religion as a blind belief system, when it contradicts science and where people have a very superficial and literal understanding of their religion because it means automatic exclusion and all arguments become immune to criticism, scientific & cultural progress or any argument at all.
Radical Understanding transmission given by the authentic Siddha Adi Da is a must in this Samyama! Adi Da: "The principle of ego-transcendence has never been understood, and transcendence of the self-contraction has never been made the basis for the God-Realizing process before. There are many things that I could say about the reasons why there has been no such Revelation previous to My own, but a fundamental reason is that there has been no true understanding of egoity, and the principle of egoity has always been the basis of religion, even esoteric religion. The search, egoity, separateness, the separative motive, the self-contraction itself, has been fundamental to both religious exotericism and religious esotericism, as well as ordinary life. Obviously this is the key matter. This understanding is the key to the Way of the Heart. It is fundamental. If you do not have this understanding, if you do not truly engage it and demonstrate it, you turn the Way of the Heart into an extension of the great search. You make the Way of the Heart into another form of conventional religiosity."
I swear I discovered some of this stuff on my own doing introspection and thinking about topological spaces. I am having a surreal time discovering this body of literature. THIS MAN IS READING MY MIND!
Wonderful and important clip. Levels of development in all areas deserve serious consideration. All people should be afforded equal human dignity, but this does not mean that they are the same, nor should they be made to be the same.
This information needs to be taught in every school system around the world. It’s really sad to see the current level of spiritual intelligence around the world. But there appears to be more people waking up right now more than ever, technology is allowing this kind of information to spread faster, so let’s hope we continue on the right path.
What a brilliant man! Thankyou for this! i so very much appreciate this. I think the whole planet has wrestled with this convoluted religious indoctrines and beliefs and it has caused so many rifts and breaks.. Heartbreaks in mankind and questions and confusion and sadly..death. It would do my heart good to see people see and feel love thru both themselves and thru the eyes of eachother. Really believe in love and kindness towards one another.. So that we can let our guard down and stop thinking there are ulterior motives and agendas and oh the trickery and manipulations that happen because either the backgrounds and point of views are so different or there is a fear of losing one self in the art of trying to please everyone and getting lost in the world where everyone just really wants to discover their dreams and bring their realities of the good dreams to come true ...to have people just like you and resonate with you.. Like a world where we all can agree and get the joke..and be in peace ...where the systems work. This worlds been so hidden of what happened and what is true and what we even have going on. For him to just be putting this all into word is a gift i am truly thankful for. Finding balance and the way. Blessings to you reading this ❤
Dear Ken, thank you for this clear and well understandable short-cut of your work. Under the shadow of age and illness still your brightness and charisma. It makes me feel so good and strong to follow your elaboration on evolution including and digesting all development. I wish you all the best.
And when Awakening happens that is spontaneous, meaning not sought after or even aware of, it truly says the path taken wasn't mundane or without meaning. Gen X here, I spontaneously Awakened in March 2020. That Awakening showed me how the life I lived, the experiences, thoughts, and beliefs, were an integral part of the journey to Awakening.
You probably had a life review as i have. You may even find yourself questioning much more after this conversion. No human being can measure your soul with their belief system(s). THere is only ONE who knows you well. That is GOD.
Thankyou for the update describing how integral thought can be used to better understand how to view the causes of many of today's problems. Using the tools of states and structures it is easier to understand what causes the problems of terrorism
I did not realize, at the time I spent at Naropa, how close I was to one of the top minds on the planet. I wish I would have made the time to meet Ken Wilber, but I was simply not ready to receive his brilliance. Thank you Ken Wilber for modeling for me the capacity of the human mind and trailblazing the Integral Model for myself and the human species!
Yeah, I hear you. I find that one way to look at this and keep from getting depressed is to recognize that in this current recurrence of your infinitely recurring Life . . . you at least figured this out faster than you did LAST time. That's progress . . .
I really loved Ken Wilber's approach in explaining Spirituality. I am an awakening being connected to higher self and the creator. Thank you Ken Wilber for your divine way of explaining Spirituality. Love and light to you and to all.
Ken Wilber and Integral Spirituality provide a useful psychological/developmental conceptual framework - meta-theory? - of spiritual intelligence, knowledge, and development that is both insightful and enlightening! Thank you!
This philosophy is very helpful in our collective quest toward unity in diversity! The Baha’i Revelation, established in 1844, is the newest revealed world religion and as such offers rich teachings to elevate humanity’s spiritual reality. It incorporates all 4 quadrants and teaches that religion is one, eternal in the Past and the future and that it is a process of progressive revelation guiding humanity toward an ever advancing civilization.
I'm so glad I found this! It will give me something to do if I want to stay trapped at the level of mind and intellectualizing for the rest of my days!
i love that the creative integrial universings means that we are not still focussing on amending ourselfes but that we are all add ons not random cling ons but enveloping and engaging and everything we are is all that we were including all that we are and can be... orgainzed confusion(seemingly chaos)is much more. it is the very perfect synergistic construction neerending as is our ability to "grow""up"" .. that we are in fact not tryng to find the ceiling (or the sealing) of our growth but the ever expantion of our acceptance in the accepting that we as a we are and always will be in the process of newness and should never feel unhappy in the thought that we are ending in any way.. beccause energy still never dies it just changes form and renews itself by it very existance and relationship tpo all that is and was and therefore is and will be .. more and more.. not less and less.. ever. WE ROCK and ROLL forever simply becaue we are. no need to rush things.. just enjoy the moment. you are still growing and dont have to wait for the moment you grow up and dont need to fight that but jsut experience it at every moment not the goal but the journey(orselves, usues and wees) itself. .. i love life and friction and heat and love. i love this. thank you. for putting in your words. as it is continuum at its finest with room to grow indefinately.. beatuiful. thank you... lisa
Very long as usual; but with an incredible and precise speech from Wilber. Great ideas, great examples, and great coherence in his Integral Perspective. Thank you for this video!
I believe there is one last step. Acceptance. As one really gets to the end of maturity they learn to accept the course of life and the levels they are at because they have experienced the full cycle and know the necessity for each level and know the future is going to be brighter than today.
Brilliant observation, thank you. At 84 this creates a positive concept of viewing those past decades, that you went through. We evolve, it is our time...still...thanks to you all.
I was raised secularly in a catholic family, so in actuality I was a non believer for the longest time. Always interested in natural sciences and never particularly fond of religion. After my first love relationship and the heartbreak that came with it, I woke up into presence. More and more living in the now, gaining higher consciousness and self awareness. However that made me a deistic atheist at best which turned into non-deistic atheism again. After experiencing even higher levels of consciousness in my youth by the means of LSD and other psychedelic drugs I gained a very similar understanding of reality and spirituality as you (ken wilber), and and others have come to. I "woke up". Some time later, more by coincidence I got into occultist teachings such as the kabbala or the kybalion that work with the thesis that reality is mind, that the universe is consciousness and that we are creators, or creative reflections of ONE creative base-consciousness, that everything is one. Very similar to what Ive experienced on psychedelics. Very liberating and immensely self-empowering stuff. That way I also stumbled upon the meaning of ritual and the application of magic (as a mental and spiritual tool, not necessarily the voodoo-way you described) and found that these things are all around us in media, movies, etc. And at the same time I came to understand that the most basic realizations and rules of book religions are true even though these books are corrupted - on purpose but also unconsciously by the low awareness of religious people. Nevertheless, the allegories of the abrahamic god, the garden of eden and the fall of humanity, the allegory of the rebel lucifer (the "light-bringer", the "awakener", the "bringer of awareness/consciousness"), the corruption of humanity, the importance of religious rules are all true and real. Theres is deep truth in integral spirituality and the occult teachings but the fact that we become aware of these things is in itself luciferian, when you come to understand what that means. Our modern spirituality and civilizational consciousness is heightened which gives more and more rise to apotheosis of the individual, narcissistic individualism and transhumanisn. These are all bad things in the context of the abrahamic book religions and its not hard to come to understand why. In my spiritual journey Ive come to the conclusion that actually abrahamic theism is the highest form of spirituality, partially metaphorical and partially very direct and precise, and that indeed life is a test. Do I live for my own and humanitys self fulfillment, self satisfaction or does life have a bigger purpose than just „mental masturbation“. Are religious rules really outdated and backwards or do they fulfill important social and even civilizational purposes?. At the moment humanity is becoming its own god, creating a world that suits the wants of (the more conscious) human individuals but this drive is highly deceptive and most of all dangerous. It is dangerous because it empowers the few and the reason why we shouldnt give into tempation or sin is that we do not only corrupt and numb ourselves but also the people around us until everyone becomes an egotistical in a universal grandiosity and or a hypocritical maniac. We are probably not the first humans atempting to do this big experiment but we might be the first global community trying to achieve the "ubermensch", as nietzsche called it. The unity consciousness is real but humans are long past that point in evolution and we're not supposed to go there with the corrupt consciousness level that we are at. And we will never be able to while we're on earth/or any physical reality. The non-unity consciousness is nothing we can grow out of because it's something we grew into. I think the most influential western leaders of this world want us wake to up and try their best to lead us there but what some of them understand but most people don't (I assume) is that this will result in a completely luciferian world. Lucifer is a symbol for something in consciousness/reality/us and even god that is concerned with achieving and spreading higher consciousness, rebellion against "gods order" (from gods perspective, testing its own "perfection") understanding reality and "god" and manipulating reality to create its own reality where it itself is god, ruler and judge. We are all drawn to that but we should, especially when we come to see the truth, go with god and not ourselves or an "ultra-ego", "gaia", "unity consciousness" because there is corruption (or "evil") in it and we give power to that corruption by apotheosis, even if it feels very good. "The devil comes in the name of love" doesnt mean we shouldn't love but we have to make the right choice and restrict ourselves even if we don't necessarily like the sound of that. This is what growing up means.
Ken Wilber's material is groundbreaking to me. There's no philosophical theory that's safe from reasonable criticism and that's okay to me. They are all truth revealing attempts, approached from different angles. I reminded myself of that back at college while studying legal ethics. And that's what Wilbers is very good at by using the stages, levels, quadrants etc. And he makes a really good effort to avoid the mistakes of his predecessors, neglecting other perceptions. Instead he includes, "integrates" them in a new structure, a map and explains their relations. If you have time listen to his audio book interview series "kosmic consciousness". It literally blew my mind
Grateful to the Cosmos that he sent you and others to hopefully save humankind. May we all use time well and pay attention as we grow and wake. A heartfelt thank you.
I love Ken Wilbers "4 ups", as a frame of understanding the human potential for growth, enlightenment, and integrating their shadow (growing up, waking up and cleaning up) on a personal and a collective level (showing up). Because of this, and my experiences with metta meditation (loving-kindness, comparable to agape I think), I feel the need to add number 5: warming up. Warming up entails a practice of metta/agape/loving kindness/compassion, that instills a sense of feeling at home, of comfort, of warmth, of liveliness and aliveness. This category could be made a part of waking up I guess, leaving it at "4 ups". It is then an important part.
Shaya Isenberg introduced our class at University of Florida. It was a class! haha. 100 percent 100. He taught me that consciousness has no qualities.. Here is the fun: Hawaii. Left that semester to Hawaii because I was stressed out in school with all the fun of Gainesville. (Jill Biden visited UF and Santa Fe which are a few miles apart to offer an incentive for students to appreciate this world of education.) Anyhow, I am now at a Cuban Coffee restaurant and soda bar, and I love life. My new years resolution was to help Cuba.
Por favor...podrían subtitular al español...para que la inmensa comunidad de habla hispana pueda beneficiarse con las enseñanzas de este maestro excepcional. Lo necesitamos. Gracias.
If one has read all the science fiction written before about 1967 and one's heart exploded with joy when Niel Armstrong took one small step and one has taken introductory courses in physics, chemistry, computer science and biology (in which one plumbed the depths of photosynthesis and Krebs cycle) and one has deeply enjoyed Darwin's 'Origin of Species', Hofstadter's 'Godel, Escher Bach' and Jayne's 'Origin of Consciousness' and enjoyed a significant LSD experience then one's general take on being has a very good chance of being perfectly resonant with Ken Wilber's integral condensation. (There are, no doubt, other routes to resonance, but that was mine, more or less).
A genius ... funny how this fact means he can never really feel the kosmic-specialness of all persons, him being a person 'plus' ... love you Ken ... best wishes from Ireland
@@privatprivat7279 All the internal rising tension here in the U.S.. It seems like we’re approaching an important cross roads. I’m not saying “This man is right and everyone else is wrong” but more so “Hey the ideas this man is bringing to the table will probably help us all gain more perspective before something bad happens”. And what ya mean essence??
@@jct3439 we're not approaching an important cross road.... we are IN an important humanity cross road right now...the next decade will determine what kind of human beings we will become... this man's idea's is what 1000's of people before him haid into there mind,-(including me) but its hard to put it into words of meaning and understanding. we are so lost... as a human species, and nobody is really lissening and grasping what is essentualy the problem...perspective is not the correct word my fellow human... conciousness is what humanity needs to develop asap...ignorance is bliss...is not a priority anymore...right now its wake up and die trying... what i mean by essence? right now the essence in our science driven world seems to be.reproduce.... make money... get rich... that is how low we fell as humanity... try to fiend our essence... is what i am meaning
@@privatprivat7279 Oh I hear you man! He’s essentially the conduit from which these sacred ideas can be shown in a concise way. And I see what you mean now about essence. So focused on results and prestige and lower levels of being(Not saying that’s inherently bad as long as it’s balanced out.. which it isn’t right now) That we don’t see how badly we’re actually treating ourselves, each other, and earth
@@jct3439 @J @J yes, and living with so many as lower levels of beings is what made us go so wrong.because of the destroyed balance and the lack of reward for conciousness and development of the self for higher conciousness human beings . Its not like he is a necessary conduit... more like... a necessary transition from a over time developed and over time abused use of corrupted religion .that served its purpose in history . When it just should have been used for self development.but got corrupted by ignorant people forced in faith . Religion is like a basic self development guide for humans that were ready. But they got stuck in it... instead of rising out and above it. Religions became a problem instead of a solution because of ignorant people.
The "wheeee!" dimension sounds like fun! ;) Seriously though: good talk. All of the ideas here do not need to be correct for this video to be of substantial value. The level of thought and perspective it embodies, and articulates so eloquently, is medicinal on multiple levels.
Insightful and revealing. I am awakening. I have been stuck in the early stages like mythic ethnocentric for the majority of my Christian experience. I was a Pentecostal and educated but I my education to a large degree did not help me advance beyond these early stages. Fortunately I had been exposed to humanist psychologists like Fromm, Erickson, and Rogers. As a graduate student I had done some research and was exposed to Robert Ellis which exposed me to rationalism and stoic philosophy. For years I compartmentalized my beliefs and suffered from a bad case of cognitive dissonance. I also struggled with either or absolutistic thinking which fundamentalism required. It wasn't until I was in my 40s that I started to investigate church history, question my fundamental beliefs, and read great thinkers like Spinoza, Neitchze, Locke and more modern religious thinkers like Paul Tillich, Bishop Sponge, and Marcus Borg. I teetered on atheism and settled with agnosticism, but like Sponge still identify with the Christian religion with God as my ground of being. I have also looked into panentheism which provides an interesting approach to understanding God that may be consistent with science. Recently I have been learning about Daoism and Buddhism. I am interested in your integral approach to religion to unify my thinking and better communicate what I believe. What thinkers and spiritual people should I be reading?
Sorry for the delayed response, but try Richard Rohr's "see as the mystic see" he's a Franciscan Friar. Marvelous for me incorporating my Christian upbringing with my Daoist waking up journey
Stanley’s Jesus Dream - I am grateful to be an American and I was raised to be a Christian. I have been blessed to have been able to spend considerable amounts of time in the physical presence of sages, saints, and a siddha who have blossomed from the traditions of most of our world’s great religions. In a dream last night, a young man was passionately speaking to me of Jesus. A feeling arose from deep in my heart that I do very much love Jesus and that salvation is available from many of our world’s spiritual traditions. In this beautiful and moving talk, Ken Wilber puts forth the hope that the healthier aspects of our integral community, religion, and the love that moves the stars can work together to nourish evolution in all four quadrants towards great love, morality, and care.
Wao ! I’m bilingual , I has to admit that at some point I have to stop to assimilate and learn so much . Would be amazing to know how Mr Wilber would see post COVID.world
@@sigurdurgujonsson4485 I missed the word *cry on my comment - but I've now fixed it; perhaps that took away the meaning of my feedback. This man is a genius and I was paying total attention. Thank you.
there are millions of people way up than the mass like him... why u dont stop urself from being part of the masses and stop to participate in the money driven world? and open your EYES yourself? say no to money and YES to conciousness!
glad i stumbled across this brilliance. puts things in perspective and gives a way to observe self and drop self identification. although i dont know what tools to apply to bring myself toward mastery , would be helpful to have something to self assess and then the remedies, or how to apply to an organization, or to offer a consulatation
The Post Modernity integrals are dangerously magnetic and continuously pushed by their super originators. It takes one to continually question, everything at every level, in order to advance to higher integral modernity truths.
I especially appreciated Ken's take down of the "Science-ism" passing itself off as valid critique of every form of spirituality. I am not comfortable with Ken's dismissal of Magick. He did give a nod to the possibility of Yogis developing Siddhas. But Voodoo dolls?.... pure bologna. Dean Radin's research has convinced me that there is more to it than meets the eye. Consciousness, which includes focus and desire do play a role in how situations play out beyond the obvious. The question is, to what degree.
Ken doesn't normally have such excessive sibilance (which is that higher pitch noise that tends to follow words that start with s, sh, t, and z) maybe the mic is amplifying those frequencies. I've watched his more recent interviews and his speech is perfect.
To add to my other comment. I haven’t watched the whole talk yet because I don’t like the feeling of being controlled but as I said I’m very far from perfect and so maybe I should. I saw another high level spiritual guy on the RUclips channel rebel wisdom (I forget his name) who spoke of Ken highly and I can sense why. That guy was dark but I feel drawn to him because I’m dark to but I keep pushing it away... I’m dark because my dad is a narcissist who insisted we act like angels no matter how badly he treated us (me and my sisters) plus being bullied at school and being rejected by my mum etc etc. Anyway, I’m genuinely perplexed but i’m probably just being perplexed by myself. I in no way meant being dark as an insult. I know it’s action reaction and is part of life. Thanks Ken. Edit. One thing about me is I always disliked people who’re SJW’s because they’re like my dad, though different on the surface, because they say now everyone else is awful and a bad person but they are the bad people. I remember the guy who went on rebel wisdom saying how he has compassion because he has learned it but that it was hard to do for some people. That’s like me for SJW’s but I haven’t learnt it yet. Edit. One thing I think is interesting in particular about what the chap who went on rebel wisdom and who spoke of Ken said is what he mentioned about whatever is there is part of you or something to that affect because I’m experiencing some strangeness with regards to my feelings and thoughts right now... and... yeah. Oh well.
Just don't care what other people think. I understand SJW thought, but if you don't like their opinions then don't like it. Just get on with your life. I am not saying this condescendingly, but as humans we focus too much on what we don't like instead of what we do like. Know what I don't like, Christian ideology. So, I don't go to church and don't hang much with extreme christians. I don't care if someone has those beliefs, but it isn't for me. I focus on what I do like. As far as your dad, I hope you have gone no contact with the narc. You'll get some of your "light" back.
Thank you Ken! Very impressive presentation summing up of some interesting social psychology theories and researches, as well as western philosophical history in relation to spiritual development. I was hope to hear you mention how you delineate what is development and what is awakening/enlightenment. As far as mankind's capacity experimentation, and this is the first time ever seem in human history. You are referring to European history right? Just being the devil advocate here, as far as I know, Oriental spiritual cultivation, terms like development (self cultivation) to awakening in order to become a full human is always on the horizon for at least the last two thousand years; this would followed by authentication. Am I ignorant some of the fact in.Buddhism religious studies in America? Or somehow you had not included in this presentation?
After reading is book "No Boundary" i'm quite suprised by is theory about different reallity " An archaic approach to ultimate reality A magic A mythic A rational A pluralistic An integral A super integral Which seem to me to create more bondaries, instead of disolving it ? Any comment on that or clarification ?
I'm so grateful that Ken Wilber is in the world. 💚🙏💚
Same here, he’s way ahead of his time. ✨💜🍃
Grandiose and incomparable - Wilber is for me leading philosopher worldwide. His integral theory should be studied at every school, college and university!
I agree, students should study Ken Wilbers teachings.
One of the greatest thinkers. 💜🍃
I agree
He just repeats himself over and over and says almost nothing thoughtful at all… everything he said is very basic logic
"Grandiose and incomparable" You just described Narcissism.
Wow. Just wow. Each level of evolution includes and transcends the previous level, moving towards universal love and identification.
Listening to this is like a massage for the brain after a lifetime of strain and confusion, searching and rejection. Thank you Doshin Roshi for encouraging your listener to find and listen to Ken.
Cameah Gill I really like your subscriptions and the path you look like you’re on. I also found this guy through Doshin Roshi and watch many of the same channels as you. 🙏🏻
I found him through Vishen Lakhiani.
Ken Wilber and his team are doing an amazing job sharing such powerful information. ✨🍃
An eye opening, a life transforming presentation, a life - Integral Spirituality, Integral Life, Integral World View.
Much love and respect!
Forever indebted to you, Ken ❤!
I am fascinated with Mr Wilber's presentational analyses - I've never,prior to discovering him , heard such an apparently rational and lucid system of human evolution . So many questions and previously thought to be loose ends he manages to make so clear . Certainly his statement that peace on a global level requires these upward stages of development is incredibly clear , especially as he points out the violent and disastrous results of the lower level religious systems . Just as amazing is his pointing out this system of evolution and it's absolute necessity and applicability to all realms of human experience in all areas of human experience . In short , the knowledge presented here is a bright light shed on all human civilzation long overdue . ...Much grateful thanks Ken Wilber -Namaste 😔
This is one of the most important videos on RUclips. Ken Wilber is great as always.
It is important, and he's probably not joking. It exposes idiots like the OP who who eat up this sort of sophistry and then beg for more.
Is he ur guru?
Is he ur guru?
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Or NOT. ;)
I have read several of his books and do appreciate his ideas and think they are helpful to today’s world, but the best idea I ever got from him was a you tube video in which he explained ‘I amness’. Truly a revolutionary moment in my spiritual thinking--blew it wide open for me!!
You have a link for that video ?
You must be ready to understand it. Even you as a person must go through all the stages to be able to understand what he is saying. Thank you very much Ken Wilber I will be reading more of you.
The night before I got a Ken Wilber book, I had a dream where I received a phone call from him and it said "Kenneth Wilber" as the name calling. The book completley tied together every loose end I ever wanted.
interwoven222 which book was it?
@@boratsagdiyev4941 yeah which book?
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Theres a Song or a Poem in there about Integral
That is neat
I can't wait to watch this again in 10 years
4 more years to go
It is only those at the integral levels of religions who are capable of undertaking the recognitions spoken of here. And they would probably gladly do it, all together even! Thank you very much for thinking about all this Mr Wilbur!
i was so touched by his critique of modern atheism, totally ignoring the blessings and levels of consciousness, it is amazing to hear somebody very clearly formulating many of your more sub believes and insights, thank you ken wilber
Mae Raich try rudolf steiner. his amazing as well.
Atheism is an interesting belief system
@@philkesler Well said. Thx dude.
Atheism is the absence of a religion. A-theism means non-theism. At not all atheists try to explain reality with science. Some atheists just don't give a damn or don't waste a single thought on the reality they inhabit. As long as they don't believe in a theism, they are by definition atheists. I even know atheists who describe themselves as deistic atheists, so they believe in some sort of creator intelligence but its non-religious, not-theistic, hence a-theistic.
And by the way I have not yet heard hitchens or dawkins talk badly about deism or a more allegorical, metaphorical or abstract theism. I could imagine they still don't find it compelling but I don't think they're bothered by it either. They condemn religion as a blind belief system, when it contradicts science and where people have a very superficial and literal understanding of their religion because it means automatic exclusion and all arguments become immune to criticism, scientific & cultural progress or any argument at all.
@@DevonRyeTheDragonfly what is your beliefs?
What a remarkable man! And what an unbelievable honour to be alive and capable of listening to this!
What I know about Integral is that it is a continuous journey of discovery. Thank you Ken for taking the time. Such a great storyteller and educator.
Radical Understanding transmission given by the authentic Siddha
Adi Da is a must in this Samyama!
Adi Da: "The principle of ego-transcendence has never been understood, and transcendence of the self-contraction has never been made the basis for the God-Realizing process before.
There are many things that I could say about the reasons why there has been no such Revelation previous to My own, but a fundamental reason is that there has been no true understanding of egoity, and the principle of egoity has always been the basis of religion, even esoteric religion. The search, egoity, separateness, the separative motive, the self-contraction itself, has been fundamental to both religious exotericism and religious esotericism, as well as ordinary life. Obviously this is the key matter.
This understanding is the key to the Way of the Heart. It is fundamental. If you do not have this understanding, if you do not truly engage it and demonstrate it, you turn the Way of the Heart into an extension of the great search. You make the Way of the Heart into another form of conventional religiosity."
❤️🖐
And the great realizers Adidam have produced are?
I swear I discovered some of this stuff on my own doing introspection and thinking about topological spaces. I am having a surreal time discovering this body of literature. THIS MAN IS READING MY MIND!
Wonderful and important clip. Levels of development in all areas deserve serious consideration. All people should be afforded equal human dignity, but this does not mean that they are the same, nor should they be made to be the same.
This information needs to be taught in every school system around the world. It’s really sad to see the current level of spiritual intelligence around the world. But there appears to be more people waking up right now more than ever, technology is allowing this kind of information to spread faster, so let’s hope we continue on the right path.
Let’s aid in that spread... Non-dogmatically of course😉😁
. . and he’s just on the tip of the iceberg with this and he know’s this🌟
I love Ken Wilber. So good to see him again!
What a beautiful presentation. Thank you so much Ken!
Thank you for your kindness in explaining what you have learnt and understood.
what a great teacher, one might not agree with all the details of his explanation, but how ensuring it is to have such minds among us.
"Ensuring"? Ensuring of what? How is having sophists like him ensuring of anything besides the perpetuation of ignorance and confusion?
Absolutely reassuring to be alive today and a part of this discourse.
I love you Ken. Thank you for continuing to share yourself and your work with us. You are an inspiration, role-model, and comfort to me.
What a brilliant man!
Thankyou for this! i so very much appreciate this. I think the whole planet has wrestled with this convoluted religious indoctrines and beliefs and it has caused so many rifts and breaks.. Heartbreaks in mankind and questions and confusion and sadly..death. It would do my heart good to see people see and feel love thru both themselves and thru the eyes of eachother. Really believe in love and kindness towards one another.. So that we can let our guard down and stop thinking there are ulterior motives and agendas and oh the trickery and manipulations that happen because either the backgrounds and point of views are so different or there is a fear of losing one self in the art of trying to please everyone and getting lost in the world where everyone just really wants to discover their dreams and bring their realities of the good dreams to come true ...to have people just like you and resonate with you.. Like a world where we all can agree and get the joke..and be in peace ...where the systems work.
This worlds been so hidden of what happened and what is true and what we even have going on.
For him to just be putting this all into word is a gift i am truly thankful for. Finding balance and the way.
Blessings to you reading this ❤
Dear Ken, thank you for this clear and well understandable short-cut of your work. Under the shadow of age and illness still your brightness and charisma. It makes me feel so good and strong to follow your elaboration on evolution including and digesting all development. I wish you all the best.
And when Awakening happens that is spontaneous, meaning not sought after or even aware of, it truly says the path taken wasn't mundane or without meaning. Gen X here, I spontaneously Awakened in March 2020. That Awakening showed me how the life I lived, the experiences, thoughts, and beliefs, were an integral part of the journey to Awakening.
You probably had a life review as i have. You may even find yourself questioning much more after this conversion. No human being can measure your soul with their belief system(s). THere is only ONE who knows you well. That is GOD.
Ken Wilber I tend to his approach to knowledge a brief teory of everything Is a masterpiece! Micro and macrocosmos so integral psicology is great!
Thankyou for the update describing how integral thought can be used to better understand how to view the causes of many of today's problems. Using the tools of states and structures it is easier to understand what causes the problems of terrorism
I did not realize, at the time I spent at Naropa, how close I was to one of the top minds on the planet. I wish I would have made the time to meet Ken Wilber, but I was simply not ready to receive his brilliance. Thank you Ken Wilber for modeling for me the capacity of the human mind and trailblazing the Integral Model for myself and the human species!
Yeah, I hear you. I find that one way to look at this and keep from getting depressed is to recognize that in this current recurrence of your infinitely recurring Life . . . you at least figured this out faster than you did LAST time. That's progress . . .
I really loved Ken Wilber's approach in explaining Spirituality. I am an awakening being connected to higher self and the creator. Thank you Ken Wilber for your divine way of explaining Spirituality. Love and light to you and to all.
Thank you Ken Wilber. Brilliant work. Eye opening.
The fact that he did this in one take and that he is in his 70's, just goes to show how profound and intellectual Mr. Wilber is
30:50 Watch again. That's clearly a jump cut disguised with a clever blur.
Kem Wilber is the reason I have clarity in my life.
Ken Wilber and Integral Spirituality provide a useful psychological/developmental conceptual framework - meta-theory? - of spiritual intelligence, knowledge, and development that is both insightful and enlightening! Thank you!
This philosophy is very helpful in our collective quest toward unity in diversity! The Baha’i Revelation, established in 1844, is the newest revealed world religion and as such offers rich teachings to elevate humanity’s spiritual reality. It incorporates all 4 quadrants and teaches that religion is one, eternal in the Past and the future and that it is a process of progressive revelation guiding humanity toward an ever advancing civilization.
I'm so glad I found this! It will give me something to do if I want to stay trapped at the level of mind and intellectualizing for the rest of my days!
i love that the creative integrial universings means that we are not still focussing on amending ourselfes but that we are all add ons not random cling ons but enveloping and engaging and everything we are is all that we were including all that we are and can be... orgainzed confusion(seemingly chaos)is much more. it is the very perfect synergistic construction neerending as is our ability to "grow""up"" .. that we are in fact not tryng to find the ceiling (or the sealing) of our growth but the ever expantion of our acceptance in the accepting that we as a we are and always will be in the process of newness and should never feel unhappy in the thought that we are ending in any way.. beccause energy still never dies it just changes form and renews itself by it very existance and relationship tpo all that is and was and therefore is and will be .. more and more.. not less and less.. ever. WE ROCK and ROLL forever simply becaue we are. no need to rush things.. just enjoy the moment. you are still growing and dont have to wait for the moment you grow up and dont need to fight that but jsut experience it at every moment not the goal but the journey(orselves, usues and wees) itself. .. i love life and friction and heat and love. i love this. thank you. for putting in your words. as it is continuum at its finest with room to grow indefinately.. beatuiful. thank you... lisa
Very long as usual; but with an incredible and precise speech from Wilber. Great ideas, great examples, and great coherence in his Integral Perspective. Thank you for this video!
Wow, I am speechless. Ken Wilber is my new dude!
Spiral dynamics is a fascinating model to study.
I believe there is one last step. Acceptance. As one really gets to the end of maturity they learn to accept the course of life and the levels they are at because they have experienced the full cycle and know the necessity for each level and know the future is going to be brighter than today.
Brilliant observation, thank you. At 84 this creates a positive concept of viewing those past decades, that you went through. We evolve, it is our time...still...thanks to you all.
I was raised secularly in a catholic family, so in actuality I was a non believer for the longest time. Always interested in natural sciences and never particularly fond of religion. After my first love relationship and the heartbreak that came with it, I woke up into presence. More and more living in the now, gaining higher consciousness and self awareness. However that made me a deistic atheist at best which turned into non-deistic atheism again.
After experiencing even higher levels of consciousness in my youth by the means of LSD and other psychedelic drugs I gained a very similar understanding of reality and spirituality as you (ken wilber), and and others have come to. I "woke up". Some time later, more by coincidence I got into occultist teachings such as the kabbala or the kybalion that work with the thesis that reality is mind, that the universe is consciousness and that we are creators, or creative reflections of ONE creative base-consciousness, that everything is one. Very similar to what Ive experienced on psychedelics. Very liberating and immensely self-empowering stuff. That way I also stumbled upon the meaning of ritual and the application of magic (as a mental and spiritual tool, not necessarily the voodoo-way you described) and found that these things are all around us in media, movies, etc. And at the same time I came to understand that the most basic realizations and rules of book religions are true even though these books are corrupted - on purpose but also unconsciously by the low awareness of religious people. Nevertheless, the allegories of the abrahamic god, the garden of eden and the fall of humanity, the allegory of the rebel lucifer (the "light-bringer", the "awakener", the "bringer of awareness/consciousness"), the corruption of humanity, the importance of religious rules are all true and real.
Theres is deep truth in integral spirituality and the occult teachings but the fact that we become aware of these things is in itself luciferian, when you come to understand what that means. Our modern spirituality and civilizational consciousness is heightened which gives more and more rise to apotheosis of the individual, narcissistic individualism and transhumanisn. These are all bad things in the context of the abrahamic book religions and its not hard to come to understand why. In my spiritual journey Ive come to the conclusion that actually abrahamic theism is the highest form of spirituality, partially metaphorical and partially very direct and precise, and that indeed life is a test. Do I live for my own and humanitys self fulfillment, self satisfaction or does life have a bigger purpose than just „mental masturbation“. Are religious rules really outdated and backwards or do they fulfill important social and even civilizational purposes?.
At the moment humanity is becoming its own god, creating a world that suits the wants of (the more conscious) human individuals but this drive is highly deceptive and most of all dangerous. It is dangerous because it empowers the few and the reason why we shouldnt give into tempation or sin is that we do not only corrupt and numb ourselves but also the people around us until everyone becomes an egotistical in a universal grandiosity and or a hypocritical maniac. We are probably not the first humans atempting to do this big experiment but we might be the first global community trying to achieve the "ubermensch", as nietzsche called it.
The unity consciousness is real but humans are long past that point in evolution and we're not supposed to go there with the corrupt consciousness level that we are at. And we will never be able to while we're on earth/or any physical reality. The non-unity consciousness is nothing we can grow out of because it's something we grew into. I think the most influential western leaders of this world want us wake to up and try their best to lead us there but what some of them understand but most people don't (I assume) is that this will result in a completely luciferian world. Lucifer is a symbol for something in consciousness/reality/us and even god that is concerned with achieving and spreading higher consciousness, rebellion against "gods order" (from gods perspective, testing its own "perfection") understanding reality and "god" and manipulating reality to create its own reality where it itself is god, ruler and judge. We are all drawn to that but we should, especially when we come to see the truth, go with god and not ourselves or an "ultra-ego", "gaia", "unity consciousness" because there is corruption (or "evil") in it and we give power to that corruption by apotheosis, even if it feels very good. "The devil comes in the name of love" doesnt mean we shouldn't love but we have to make the right choice and restrict ourselves even if we don't necessarily like the sound of that. This is what growing up means.
If you've ever been curious about who you truly are, then this is something that you NEED to see...
Latter sections of Ken Wilber's presentation (1:12 to end) is esoteric and abstruse for me! I'll read his book!
More than a decade ago I liked the talks and voila, I still do. Great reminders, thanks K 🙏
This is a wonderful reprise and summary of Ken's Integral theory/worldview. Always coherent and comprehensive!
ken wilber is amazing. so underappreciated as a true philosopher and a human being.
Ken Wilber's material is groundbreaking to me. There's no philosophical theory that's safe from reasonable criticism and that's okay to me. They are all truth revealing attempts, approached from different angles. I reminded myself of that back at college while studying legal ethics. And that's what Wilbers is very good at by using the stages, levels, quadrants etc. And he makes a really good effort to avoid the mistakes of his predecessors, neglecting other perceptions. Instead he includes, "integrates" them in a new structure, a map and explains their relations. If you have time listen to his audio book interview series "kosmic consciousness". It literally blew my mind
we continue to pray that you and your families will enjoy innumerable blessings and happiness for a long time
Grateful to the Cosmos that he sent you and others to hopefully save humankind. May we all use time well and pay attention as we grow and wake. A heartfelt thank you.
I love Ken Wilbers "4 ups", as a frame of understanding the human potential for growth, enlightenment, and integrating their shadow (growing up, waking up and cleaning up) on a personal and a collective level (showing up).
Because of this, and my experiences with metta meditation (loving-kindness, comparable to agape I think), I feel the need to add number 5: warming up.
Warming up entails a practice of metta/agape/loving kindness/compassion, that instills a sense of feeling at home, of comfort, of warmth, of liveliness and aliveness.
This category could be made a part of waking up I guess, leaving it at "4 ups". It is then an important part.
Man of our times.
Ken Wilber, glad to know you!
The evolution of human consciousness. We evolve not only biologically, but spiritually as well.
and we would have been much further if we guided ourselfs diffrently...but we will get there, dont worry!
42:15 Very important and concise criticism of the ideology of post-modernism.
I have yet to clearly hear any true post modernists. I need an example of one i suppose
Thank you for sharing such valuable information 💜💜💜
Shaya Isenberg introduced our class at University of Florida. It was a class! haha. 100 percent 100. He taught me that consciousness has no qualities.. Here is the fun: Hawaii. Left that semester to Hawaii because I was stressed out in school with all the fun of Gainesville. (Jill Biden visited UF and Santa Fe which are a few miles apart to offer an incentive for students to appreciate this world of education.) Anyhow, I am now at a Cuban Coffee restaurant and soda bar, and I love life. My new years resolution was to help Cuba.
Por favor...podrían subtitular al español...para que la inmensa comunidad de habla hispana pueda beneficiarse con las enseñanzas
de este maestro excepcional. Lo necesitamos. Gracias.
If one has read all the science fiction written before about 1967 and
one's heart exploded with joy when Niel Armstrong took one small step and
one has taken introductory courses in physics, chemistry, computer science and biology
(in which one plumbed the depths of photosynthesis and Krebs cycle) and
one has deeply enjoyed Darwin's 'Origin of Species',
Hofstadter's 'Godel, Escher Bach' and
Jayne's 'Origin of Consciousness' and
enjoyed a significant LSD experience
then
one's general take on being
has a very good chance of being perfectly resonant with Ken Wilber's integral condensation.
(There are, no doubt, other routes to resonance, but that was mine, more or less).
A genius ... funny how this fact means he can never really feel the kosmic-specialness of all persons, him being a person 'plus' ... love you Ken ... best wishes from Ireland
This man’s work is going to be very important for the next decade..
what makes u say that, what is the essence for humanity?
@@privatprivat7279 All the internal rising tension here in the U.S.. It seems like we’re approaching an important cross roads. I’m not saying “This man is right and everyone else is wrong” but more so “Hey the ideas this man is bringing to the table will probably help us all gain more perspective before something bad happens”.
And what ya mean essence??
@@jct3439 we're not approaching an important cross road.... we are IN an important humanity cross road right now...the next decade will determine what kind of human beings we will become... this man's idea's is what 1000's of people before him haid into there mind,-(including me) but its hard to put it into words of meaning and understanding. we are so lost... as a human species, and nobody is really lissening and grasping what is essentualy the problem...perspective is not the correct word my fellow human... conciousness is what humanity needs to develop asap...ignorance is bliss...is not a priority anymore...right now its wake up and die trying...
what i mean by essence? right now the essence in our science driven world seems to be.reproduce.... make money... get rich... that is how low we fell as humanity... try to fiend our essence... is what i am meaning
@@privatprivat7279 Oh I hear you man! He’s essentially the conduit from which these sacred ideas can be shown in a concise way.
And I see what you mean now about essence. So focused on results and prestige and lower levels of being(Not saying that’s inherently bad as long as it’s balanced out.. which it isn’t right now) That we don’t see how badly we’re actually treating ourselves, each other, and earth
@@jct3439 @J @J yes, and living with so many as lower levels of beings is what made us go so wrong.because of the destroyed balance and the lack of reward for conciousness and development of the self for higher conciousness human beings . Its not like he is a necessary conduit... more like... a necessary transition from a over time developed and over time abused use of corrupted religion .that served its purpose in history . When it just should have been used for self development.but got corrupted by ignorant people forced in faith . Religion is like a basic self development guide for humans that were ready. But they got stuck in it... instead of rising out and above it. Religions became a problem instead of a solution because of ignorant people.
Amazing presentation!
59:25 It is closer to 1 million species of Insects worldwide.
So glad to see you all here.
Now I understand how he can write a 800 page book. It probably took him a long weekend.
LMAO, seems a clever chap. I even understand parts too 😂
ya, he just cut and pastes old books. bingo! new book!
Nobody else could ramble-on, berating popular religion for an hour, right, Kenneth? ;)
IQ 175
Hahaha
The "wheeee!" dimension sounds like fun! ;)
Seriously though: good talk. All of the ideas here do not need to be correct for this video to be of substantial value. The level of thought and perspective it embodies, and articulates so eloquently, is medicinal on multiple levels.
Great and Good Friend, I am a hero, am enlightened, and I am a prodigy.
Insightful and revealing. I am awakening. I have been stuck in the early stages like mythic ethnocentric for the majority of my Christian experience. I was a Pentecostal and educated but I my education to a large degree did not help me advance beyond these early stages. Fortunately I had been exposed to humanist psychologists like Fromm, Erickson, and Rogers. As a graduate student I had done some research and was exposed to Robert Ellis which exposed me to rationalism and stoic philosophy. For years I compartmentalized my beliefs and suffered from a bad case of cognitive dissonance. I also struggled with either or absolutistic thinking which fundamentalism required. It wasn't until I was in my 40s that I started to investigate church history, question my fundamental beliefs, and read great thinkers like Spinoza, Neitchze, Locke and more modern religious thinkers like Paul Tillich, Bishop Sponge, and Marcus Borg. I teetered on atheism and settled with agnosticism, but like Sponge still identify with the Christian religion with God as my ground of being. I have also looked into panentheism which provides an interesting approach to understanding God that may be consistent with science. Recently I have been learning about Daoism and Buddhism. I am interested in your integral approach to religion to unify my thinking and better communicate what I believe. What thinkers and spiritual people should I be reading?
Sorry for the delayed response, but try Richard Rohr's "see as the mystic see" he's a Franciscan Friar. Marvelous for me incorporating my Christian upbringing with my Daoist waking up journey
Ken’s monumental work won’t be appreciated until further spiritual evolution happens in the next 50 years.
Coexistence... so important today and beyond!
Much love! Integral life!
Stanley’s Jesus Dream - I am grateful to be an American and I was raised to be a Christian. I have been blessed to have been able to spend considerable amounts of time in the physical presence of sages, saints, and a siddha who have blossomed from the traditions of most of our world’s great religions. In a dream last night, a young man was passionately speaking to me of Jesus. A feeling arose from deep in my heart that I do very much love Jesus and that salvation is available from many of our world’s spiritual traditions. In this beautiful and moving talk, Ken Wilber puts forth the hope that the healthier aspects of our integral community, religion, and the love that moves the stars can work together to nourish evolution in all four quadrants towards great love, morality, and care.
Amazing and so clearly explained. Thank you Ken!
GREAT WISEDOM. WE SHOULD CONTINUALLY DEVELOP. THE GOOD IS THE ENEMY OF THE BEST. NOT TO DEVELOP IS DECAY
I've always felt like ...I die, then practice patience while the new PHOENIX within ME incubates & bursts forth.
& OH BABY! this one is STUNNING! ☯️🌟
I'll have what he's having
You better not, you'll live to regret it.
@@frankwyman9138 what do you mean?
@@frankwyman9138 you are in the dark night of the soul, keep going, no turning back
Lmao
He never used psychedelics
Wao ! I’m bilingual , I has to admit that at some point I have to stop to assimilate and learn so much . Would be amazing to know how Mr Wilber would see post COVID.world
MOST AMAZING INDIVIDUAL.
Here because of Fr. Richard Rohr, R.I.P.
I nearly cried 20 minutes into his presentation. This man is levels way up than the mass; it's incredible! Eye opening.
You are not paying attention
@@sigurdurgujonsson4485 I missed the word *cry on my comment - but I've now fixed it; perhaps that took away the meaning of my feedback. This man is a genius and I was paying total attention. Thank you.
there are millions of people way up than the mass like him... why u dont stop urself from being part of the masses and stop to participate in the money driven world? and open your EYES yourself? say no to money and YES to conciousness!
Again Beautiful dissertation!
glad i stumbled across this brilliance. puts things in perspective and gives a way to observe self and drop self identification. although i dont know what tools to apply to bring myself toward mastery , would be helpful to have something to self assess and then the remedies, or how to apply to an organization, or to offer a consulatation
Look into his 'Superhuman OS' course
The Post Modernity integrals are dangerously magnetic and continuously pushed by their super originators. It takes one to continually question, everything at every level, in order to advance to higher integral modernity truths.
I especially appreciated Ken's take down of the "Science-ism" passing itself off as valid critique of every form of spirituality.
I am not comfortable with Ken's dismissal of Magick. He did give a nod to the possibility of Yogis developing Siddhas. But Voodoo dolls?.... pure bologna.
Dean Radin's research has convinced me that there is more to it than meets the eye. Consciousness, which includes focus and desire do play a role in how situations play out beyond the obvious. The question is, to what degree.
Well said perhaps what we see is the stages re-emerge at a higher level ala transcend and include?
Thank you for sharing this.
Ken doesn't normally have such excessive sibilance (which is that higher pitch noise that tends to follow words that start with s, sh, t, and z) maybe the mic is amplifying those frequencies. I've watched his more recent interviews and his speech is perfect.
I will keep an EYE on you NOW! Fore SURE!
Genius shining like a diamond!
An extremely important overview of current spiritual affairs.
My brain just exploded, thank you Ken!
Mind is blown 1:33 minutes in. "Spirituality is a narrative."
the end is especially interesting, with the reference to Darwin's book. 1::44 and seq.
Loved this!!!
Very structured system, precise. Brilliant. Thank you for your work, Ken
I LIKE this Darwinian spiritualist future!
To add to my other comment. I haven’t watched the whole talk yet because I don’t like the feeling of being controlled but as I said I’m very far from perfect and so maybe I should. I saw another high level spiritual guy on the RUclips channel rebel wisdom (I forget his name) who spoke of Ken highly and I can sense why. That guy was dark but I feel drawn to him because I’m dark to but I keep pushing it away... I’m dark because my dad is a narcissist who insisted we act like angels no matter how badly he treated us (me and my sisters) plus being bullied at school and being rejected by my mum etc etc. Anyway, I’m genuinely perplexed but i’m probably just being perplexed by myself. I in no way meant being dark as an insult. I know it’s action reaction and is part of life. Thanks Ken.
Edit. One thing about me is I always disliked people who’re SJW’s because they’re like my dad, though different on the surface, because they say now everyone else is awful and a bad person but they are the bad people. I remember the guy who went on rebel wisdom saying how he has compassion because he has learned it but that it was hard to do for some people. That’s like me for SJW’s but I haven’t learnt it yet.
Edit. One thing I think is interesting in particular about what the chap who went on rebel wisdom and who spoke of Ken said is what he mentioned about whatever is there is part of you or something to that affect because I’m experiencing some strangeness with regards to my feelings and thoughts right now... and... yeah. Oh well.
Just don't care what other people think. I understand SJW thought, but if you don't like their opinions then don't like it.
Just get on with your life.
I am not saying this condescendingly, but as humans we focus too much on what we don't like instead of what we do like.
Know what I don't like, Christian ideology. So, I don't go to church and don't hang much with extreme christians. I don't care if someone has those beliefs, but it isn't for me. I focus on what I do like.
As far as your dad, I hope you have gone no contact with the narc. You'll get some of your "light" back.
Ingenue Blue Well said.
Thank you Ken! Very impressive presentation summing up of some interesting social psychology theories and researches, as well as western philosophical history in relation to spiritual development. I was hope to hear you mention how you delineate what is development and what is awakening/enlightenment. As far as mankind's capacity experimentation, and this is the first time ever seem in human history. You are referring to European history right? Just being the devil advocate here, as far as I know, Oriental spiritual cultivation, terms like development (self cultivation) to awakening in order to become a full human is always on the horizon for at least the last two thousand years; this would followed by authentication. Am I ignorant some of the fact in.Buddhism religious studies in America? Or somehow you had not included in this presentation?
After reading is book "No Boundary" i'm quite suprised by is theory about different reallity "
An archaic approach to ultimate reality
A magic
A mythic
A rational
A pluralistic
An integral
A super integral
Which seem to me to create more bondaries, instead of disolving it ? Any comment on that or clarification ?
Great comment friend ;)
"Magical thinking is believing mind can affect matter" - Yet this is best understood at Turquoise..
Thinks it can happy but doesn't know how.
@@TheBlackz1234 ?
Pre/trans?
@@M-i-k-a-e-l what?
@@thisin. Magical thinking is pre rational and turquoise is trans rational.